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I understand that you are a proud Québécois, but the people here have nothing but contempt for you because of decades of transfer payments and NONE OF YOU understanding what Quebec sovereignty means. None of you know who Russell Rogers Smith is, and you're too proud and arrogant to teach. Just go away and be Retardier somewhere else.

Volume 7

Sep 23, 2014 8:41 PM

Will Bed

Some of you guys may remember, back in april, I requested that the bank return the 20 000$ promissory note which was created when the PERSON contracted a car loan, a contract which was fully honored in may 2009.

It's taken a full 6 months, 5 or 6 registered letter communications, reminding 2 of their uncooperative agents what the law says, but it seems the last communication, sent directly to the Director of the bank's branch, made them comply :D

I just got a short, 6 lines letter, sent to the PERSON by the General Director, explaining who to contac in order to go get that promissory note back.

Is there anything I should be aware of and/or make sure they do or dont do when I go there to pick it up, except of course not ID ing as the PERSON ?

Or would it be a better option to have them sending it back to the PERSON, registered mail ?

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David-Paul Sip

So would you be going as the PERSON Capitaine Pete? :P Would make for good sport though. I wonder how these fucktars would respond when NOTICED them that you "have" the PERSON lol! I bet you'll end up at Option 2 :D

Will Bed

Honestly, meeting them face to face to tell them the TRUTH has been growing on me these past few weeks... I think I'd gladly walk in there as the MAN who has THE PERSON WB, and ask them LIVE to send it to the PERSON, registered mail...

Steve McCall that will be where the fun begins. That note is worth 20 000$ and I'm gonna find the best way to benefit from it and teach others.

David Vilaca

Will Bed, if you get those legal tenders, I suggest you collapse them. PayPal accepts bitcoin now, its the end of legal tender for peonage and centralized institutions. The Boatswains call can barerly be heard over the cannon fire, it's time to board the private side.

Will Bed

I did not... It was a 6hrs+ call... We discussed quite a few different topics... VERY INTERESTING call !!

In regards to this topic, Scott explained that they should be instructed to send the note back registered mail, and that ME walking in there would be accepting their jurisdiction...

We discussed that if they INDEED return the original note, that would mean they most certainly had to absorb a loss for the 32 fold fractionally reserved amount that'd now be backed by the note... And they'd be pissed, and they'll most certainly be on the lookout for that note to hit back the financial markets or see whatever happens with it...

Let's see how things go from here ! I'll obviously keep you guys updated on this :)

David-Paul Sip

Too bad this call wasn't recorded. So much value and grateful to see the TTFL come together for this :D I think it was my first time hearing your voice Admiral Scott and yet for some fucking reason last nights call was some sort of deja vu and I can't figure out why :/

Pete Daoust

There's not much to retain....

Will Bed's going to get his valuable instrument back. He have found a buyer. That instrument will show up in some singapour's market. Some fucktards will go nuts. Will will receive some unwanted visitors. They will ask some funny questions. Will will say, I AM NOT AUTHORIZED TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS.

Then Will will teach others.... :D

Age Thomson

So according to the Equifax website, there are 6 notes I should get returned, for a combined total of 350,000.00.... So that would mean that the banks would have to collapse over 11 million in fiat to return them....

Greg Kingsley

Will Bed do you have a copy of the letter you sent requesting that promissory note back? I recently sold my house, paying my mortgage back in full and i would like to pursue this. Just not sure the best way to word my letter.... any help would be appreciated. Thanks

Will Bed

Greg,

I actually sent them 6 or 7 communications over a 6 months period... This case, I started it all by requesting a simple account statement PROVING a loan contract ever existed, created XX/XX/2007 which was fully honored by the PERSON on XX/XX/2009.

They provided that account statement.

I then asked if they still had the original PROMISSORY NOTE which I signed as CREDITOR, which they received, and was used as a SECURITY for the amount created.

They accepted to provide a CONFORM COPY of said document.

At this point, I had PROOF that - at some point in time - they did have that document in their possession. I played stupid and told them I might need the ORIGINAL document they just photocopied and stamped, so dont lose it...

Then they said they COULD NOT provide to me the ORIGINAL document from which they made the CONFORM COPY they sent to the PERSON. A lady called, bullshitted me random crap like they never received a PROMISSORY NOTE, then that they did NOT have to return THEIR original, then they had to send it to a special place, crap like that... I insisted again...

I told reminded them that the document was not THEIRS, that they HAD to RETURN it, and since it seemed they may be interested in making it THEIR ASSET, I conditionally offered to sell it to them and I included an invoice for full amount, which they had to settle...

At this point, they sent what seemed like a notary deliver a communication threatening to CHARGE the PERSON for all their expenses related to this case...

All that kinda was the easy part. As I was telling Scott, I ALWAYS make sure I remind them of all the FACTS, rebut all their bullshit CLAIMS with FACTS, and remind them of every LEGAL obligation they have to honor and WHY I'm doing what I'm doing...

I found that asking questions they are required to answer, tight questions, like Blablabla ? This (A) or This (B) answer ? Because if (A), then blablabla, and Because if (B), then blablabla, and In both cases, you must blablabla...

Always cover all angles... These suckers will try to hide under every rock you may leave unturned...

Now, I'm not here to give you the answers, but all the tools you need are in : Bank act Bills of exchange act Financial administration act Criminal code of Canada

They also cited the "Loi sur la protection du consommateur" which we have here in Quebec, but even by that law, they were fucked by article 101...

As long as you understand that they illegally kept a NEGOTIABLE INSTRUMENT which is NOT THEIRS and which is worth WHATEVER AMOUNT IT WAS SIGNED FOR, you should be able to word your letter properly.

Write it up and post it here... Oh, and Keep It Simple Stupid ! Dont be afraid to sound like an ignorant guy asking questions. Remember whoever gonna read that first letter is most certainly more ignorant than you are ! You dont wanna scare them too bad right off the bat ;)

Patrick Adams

From what I'm reading about mortgages and car loans, once it's paid off sometimes the "lender" will write "paid in full" or "cancelled" on the promissory note and return it to the "borrower", and it's a good idea to demand this, as you seem to have done. http://www.washingtonpost.com/realestate/paid-off-your-mortgage-congratulations-but-there-are-still-some-things-you-need-to-do/2012/07/26/gJQA3KZp9W_story.html http://people.opposingviews.com/proof-pay-off-mortgage-5106.html I wonder if you should do the same when you close a credit card account to prevent them monetizing it as an asset indefinitely...

David Vilaca

OK Pete Doust, I am confused about these board of directors, I thought (not well apparently) the holding company (trustee) was to be a sole propritorship. Perhaps a thread on this specific topic would help me and the others confused on this point. I know I am making mistakes and I need to fix this shit so I don't mislead others.

David Vilaca

I think my mistake is setting up ESC CTRL inc (Trustee) as a sole proprietary, holding company. I mistakenly thought I could hire an administrator as required to Administrate the Trust and/or the affairs of the person to which it would hold power of attorney. I mistakenly thought I could be the Director for ESC CTRL inc, hire a Trustee and accountant as required. My understanding is that Far Arden Trust is just a piece of paper and no one's business. Being the beneficiary of Far Arden Trust, I am not authorized to answer any questions. Should any questions arise ESC CTRL would take the helm as power of attorney and/or Trustee and or administrator. Other than that "it's just a fucking piece of paper" What the fuck am I missing?

David Vilaca

I am sure I could Trust this Pierre Daoust :P , that trust does not correct the mistakes in my thinking. Why does ESC CTRL need a board of Directors when I can hire this Pierre Daoust guy to Administrate the trust when required?

Pete Daoust

9111-1111 Quebec Inc Board of DIRECTORS”. :D

Gail Blackman Will Bed Scott Duncan Gilles Daoust Joseph Daoust David Vilacia Chris Evan Kent Barrett Dean Clifford :D Lou ILLUMINATI John Smith

All AUTHORIZED Agents :P

Any Objections ??? :D

Will Bed

So... I stopped by the bank today, and asked the lady at the front desk if she could ask the General Manager "There's a man who has a Person here and he wants to know why you havent been returning his calls"...

His secretary showed up with the documents, saying it's been waiting to be picked up since late september...

Brad Heskin

340. Every one who, for a fraudulent purpose, destroys, cancels, conceals or obliterates (a) a document of title to goods or lands, (b) a valuable security or testamentary instrument, or (c) a judicial or official document, is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years.

Will Bed

Ask them if it's their policy to destroy a document that must LEGALLY be returned to the PERSON who signed it once that PERSON honored all of its LEGAL obligations, and ask them for any proof they may have to support any pretention they may have that the Criminal Code might not apply to them ??

Bart Foley

Good thread Will Bed. I had a car loan with Anglo Irish Bank (Defunct Irish Bank now called IBRC - Due to be wound up in March 2015) which I applied for and received in 2005 and repaid in full in 2010 with interest. I will start the same process that Will has excellently demonstrated in this thread. The amount of the loan is £5,000. I have a question of Admiral Scott Duncan on how the same process could be implemented on a commercial loan with the company I work had and fully repaid. Could the same process with the same bank be initiated on behalf of the company by an AUTHORISED ADMINISTRATOR? The loan was transferred from IBRC (IRISH BANKING RESOLUTION CORPORATION) to NAMA, (National Asset Management Agency) and fully repaid. If the promissory note can be successfully retrieved the impact on Irish and European Banking system may be substantial and also for the potential of the issuance of a large amount of Lapdancecoins :P

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