Aug 20, 2014 7:42 PM

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With the use of a PERSON he created

First mistake, he asked about opening a bank account. The corporation should have prepared a banking statement and then sent it to the bank requesting a meeting to discuss what benefits and services the bank was willing to offer to the corporation.

They should be bidding for the coprorations business not you begging for their services.

They seem to want to know what PERSON owns this new PERSON :/

You approached them as a debtor. They treat you as a debtor.

I can do that Andrew Ofthe RoyalHouse Aragon

Because that's what they asked me for Kent Barrett.

Maybe I have not thought enough on this.

My wish is to have a person that I can do commerce with that I trust to do what I wish.

I do not wish to do commerce in a way that will bind me to the person that the government has provided to me because I can not trust them to do as I wish.

So I've created this new person in the form of an LLC and it will do as I wish.

They want shareholder information on who owns it. If I provide the info of a holding company, they then want the ownership info on that holding company... :(

She said something about money laundering laws.

I will have to read up on that I think...

have you considered dealing with a local bank and or branch in Delaware? It would appear you are trying to open an account in a foreign jurisdiction which will cause concerns about improprieties.

I'm fucking confused. You formed an AMERICAN entitiy and are trying to open CANADIAN bank accounts with it? Are you really surprised that this raises flags Adrian Thomson?

This shit is PRICELESS :D

I opened an interest free checking account for my corporation. They wanted the PERSON's name, the Director. I believe a drivers license was produced, also. I would have to check the records on that.

First correction is that the state of Deleware that created this new LLC. Not a man and not your PERSON...the fucking STATE OF DELAWARE. The shareholder information is none of their business since it is privately held but you could tell them that no shares have been sold/issued to date so there are currently no share holders. Of course they will want to know what PERSON has signing authority for this entity. This will require a resolution passed by the board (also known as administrating) authorizing your PERSON to write checks or make withdrawals. A man must still supply commercial energy to this entity. There is no escaping that.

First question for you Adrian Thomson.

Why did you create a Corporation in Delaware ?

"Registering" a foreign corp is a separate matter from opening bank accounts. Why not open bank accounts stateside since that is where the entity is DOMICILED? Then have a CANADIAN entity as the holding corp for the LLC and open bank accounts for the CANADIAN entity in NL.

If Walmart was CREATED in Delaware and opened a store in Quebec, they would register with the Province, most likely with a subcorp as a parent corp.

Lets start with the start :D

Why did you create a Corporation in Delaware. Adrian ?

Hellosss ?? :/

Maybe Adrian Thomson is busy reading up on anti-money laudering laws :D

There would still be two separate entities Chris Evan and the subcorp would be a CANADIAN entity and that's who would open the bank accounts ie. WALMART CANADA. Really it does exist :D

I know....I just don't know why he incorporated in Delaware.

I did too, but I have a Person here. All that was required was to notify the State of Mass that it would be doing business here...ie, have a bank account

So, to HELP Adrian Thomson, we need to know WHY he incorporated in Delaware, right ? :)

Its a good idea....if you are Merican

So lets wait for Adrian Thomson's answer on WHY he did that :)

Banking statement....Andrew, can you offer more on this?

Before opening the bank account, go see the accountant, and ask him to produce some financial statement for the corp, if you have a 50 million dollar lien on the person, it should appear somewhere in the books.......that could be useful to, at least, have a coffee served to you when you will meet with the bank manager to discuss shit.... :D

Forget about the banking statement. How does a corporation send a banking statment without a bank account. Capitain Pete is right...a financial statement is what is called for but why? The corporation isn't applying for credit or anything. Not necessary at this point.

Sorry Pete Daoust, I was traveling

I created it there for anonymity

Hey look who's back :D We've been talking about you lol!

Ok, so HOW this creation can be ANONYMOUS ?

ANONYMOUS. Without name. This word is applied to such.books, letters or papers, which are published without the author's name. No man is bound to publish his name in connexion with a book or paper he has published; but if the publication is libellous, he is equally responsible as if his name were published.

In certain states the Secretary of State does not require the names of directors nor make them public Pete.

You don't need to HIDE, just saying......you only need to KNOW who you are, at specific moment of the day :D

There is only the registered agent in the state of Delaware that has the name at this point, and the incorporation filed with the state refers any inquiry back to the registered agent. It isn't meant for me to hide anything, but my reasoning is to have a jurisdictional difference on purpose so that the government can not have any claim on it.

Today, between 10:00am and 10:15am, I was Pierre Daoust, the CEO of SFC Inc. and from 10:15h to 1:30pm, I was pierre the semi-evolved chimp :D

Right now, at this very moment, I am Pete, one of The Tender for Law's admin :D

The Capitain is talking about CAPACITY here Adrian Thomson

So now, you need to OPEN a branch, in wherever you are, or, a new corp. and that new corp will be owned by that Delaware corp. So if they want to know WHO are the shareholder, you say the Delaware corp is....

Very complicated shit for nothing :D

How is it for nothing?

Learning is never for nothing... :)

Ok, if you say so..... :D

So I had presented her a letter from the company, informing her that the company has authorized me (my person ADRIAN THOMSON) to contract and to open accounts, on the company's behalf in the capacity of Manager. I had identification for the person with a photo of me on it in the form of a Drivers License.

The bank wants me to notify the government of Nova Scotia that the company will be doing business here (not a huge issue) but obviously a step I forgot to plan for.

The shareholder part of the equation though, how is it any of their business?

The shareholder part of the equation though, how is it any of their business?

Why not ASK the bank this question ?

The answer from her was money laundering regulations. :/

That is WHY you should create ANOTHER corp, in your Province, and have the Delaware corp the 100% shareholder, that's the reason WHY you open a Delaware corp., to HOLD another corp elsewhere....

Exactly why a Canadian entity needs to be formed. The fact she mentioned money laundering regulations means any entity from a foriegn jurisdiction opening accounts is a FLAG = lots of questions.

Watching with interest ?

Perfect!!! :)

I'm excited now :)

:D

I only see persons here, one acts for my benefit, the other has surety.

Looks like Adrian took a page out of my brain! You made it too complicated!

But now you can open an account "pursuant to 12 USC 411 and 12 USC 95a (2). :-D

In the states

The whole thing about anti-money laundering just messed up my thinking. And I was questioning everything I thought I had figured out. But by adding the additional Canadian corporation and holding it with the first one I will have exactly what I was originally thinking of. So somehow, through all of this (frankly shit stain) post, I'm back to where I was planning to be. So I'm excited! :)

Hmmm, Delaware law requires that every business entity have and maintain a Registered Agent in the State of Delaware who may be either an individual resident or business entity that is authorized to do business in the State of Delaware.

http://corp.delaware.gov/newentit09.shtml

So my sister picked up a check for the Surety Bond from one of the Kourts.....it was drawn on Santander...the former fucking SOVEREIGN BANK! The Kourts were using SOVEREIGN FUCKING BANK!!!

Adrian, who did you use in Delaware to do this?

I posted a file last month Chris Evan and everything is in it. It was a bit of a generic help document but it's also written by a company that does agent services... So take the info with that in mind because it's kind of an advertisement.

Oh...sorry...last month wasn't good for me

It's still in the files section though

Yep, after sleeping on this and thinking more about it, I feel I must apologize to you all for causing such a boneheaded thread. I should not have tried to "put the cart before the horse" so to speak.....

Sorry.

I have done that a bunch of times....

Actually Adrian Thomson the mistake was sending the Captain a private message thinking it would not see the light of day :D As for the MASSIVE shitstain just remember who posted it lol! I suspect you didn't pose the question to the group first becsause you knew it wasn't gonna be pretty and would leave skidmarks and streaking everywhere.

Not the case at all David. I just wasn't thinking clearly at the time, and was being rushed by my wife to travel into town.

I fully expected that I was going to be berated because I knew I had fucked something up somewhere. The original message being private instead of a proper post is simply one more in a long string I had going that day...

But I'm back on track now.

And thanks for not pulling any punches. (Specifically you David-Paul Sip)

:D .....be aware that ALL private messages that has no private means, from members of this group, will be posted in the group... :P

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