Well just had some ahole come to the door saying he was the sherriff and I have 1 week to get out...how do I secured party creditor inforce the UCC that I submitted 2years ago with this property listed on the UCC
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Sue Rakestraw
Foreclosure?
Tracy Sutton
Yes
Sue Rakestraw
So, you filed a UCC lien as a Secured Party Creditor, but you don't know how to enforce it? Lot of questions here....
1) What state?
2) Judicial or non-judicial state?
3) Who told you the status of "SPC" would prevent foreclosure when you don't make payments?
Just for starters.....
Tracy Sutton
1) ontario
Tracy Sutton
2) was making payments ..they didn't want to renew ...nd unfortunately couldn't get re-financed
Sue Rakestraw
I'm sorry.....I'm in the States and am only familiar with the procedure here. Good luck....
Tracy Sutton
Thanks
Tracy Sutton
If you wouldn't mind what are the procedures in the states
Sue Rakestraw
Too long to type it all here. First, if you are in a judicial state, the foreclosure must go through the court system. If it is a non-judicial state, it doesn't and they can foreclose without going through the court.
Do you have any idea if your mortgage was securitized?
Tracy Sutton
They received summary judgement in court already
Sue Rakestraw
Not sure if this is valid there, but consider filing a "skeleton" bankruptcy to hold off the eviction. That would buy you some time to study your ass off & fight this.
Tracy Sutton
What entails a skeleton bankruptcy
Sue Rakestraw
Tracy, please just Google the different forms of bankruptcy for Canada. In the States, filing bankruptcy will stop a foreclosure for a limited time. I have no idea how this works in Canada and I only said to "consider" it. It is a "last resort" thing to do. This is NOT legal advice.
Tracy Sutton
Yes I am and yes we can do it here ..thank you for your intellect
Tracy Sutton
I know it's not legal advice
David Johansen
by what authority? whom is the sherriff acting for?
Tracy Sutton
He said his authority is the attorney general lol
Chris Evan
so the authority comes from the general ledger.
Sue Rakestraw
IF the loan was securitized, the Bank has no Standing to foreclose IF they are only the Servicer of the loan. If the loan was "securitized", the only rights the Bank has is that of the "trustee". The Bank can ONLY transfer what they possess, which in this case, would be that of the Trustee. Sheriff is acting as a Trustee.
Tracy Sutton
The loan was securitized it is harder to get all the proof needed to kick their ass than it is in the states
Sue Rakestraw
Tracy, it may not be as hard as you think. Look at your loan documents, specifically the ones you signed at closing. Look at the Deed of Trust and at who is listed there.
These loans are monetized into Trusts. You can look for your loan number, by the Bank name on the NYSE. Oops....New York Stock Exchange and look for a Trust close to the date AFTER your loan closed.
This is a little late in the game......file the bankruptcy first if you want to fight to save your home. That will give you time to dig for the information you need.
Tracy Sutton
Yes I have original loan was GE money and than industrial alliance
Tracy Sutton
Thanks sue already talking to someone about bankruptcy
Rick Hiltz
If I am not mistaken there are no sheriffs in Ontario. Mike Harris got rid of all of them so find out who is trying to impersonate a LEO
Rick Hiltz
and do they have the original note not a copy the original
Tracy Sutton
They have never shown a note..I have a UCC filling from 2 years ago but haven't been able how to enforce it here in ontario
Tracy Sutton
Can't do the bankruptcy
Tracy Sutton
It only covers unsecured debts
Rick Hiltz
if they don`t have the original note they can`t collect on some thing they don`t own
Rick Hiltz
note credit agreement they are all financial insturments
Rick Hiltz
the bank has already been paid
Tracy Sutton
Unfortantley the courts here don't give a rats ass what u have to say...no matter how much evidence you have which was in this case
Tracy Sutton
Didn't listen to anything ..so they got their summary judgement now I have to get the out
Rick Hiltz
did you bother to investigate the judges Past ? did he at one time work as a lawyer for one of the banks
Tracy Sutton
No I haven't ..hmm
Tracy Sutton
I taped the sheriff speaking to me ..he also said if I did not leave I would be arrested ..what a threat
BRASS subsequently recalls a conversation he had with a retired Ontario sheriff some years ago, in which it was explained that when Ontario Premier Mike Harris was in office in the late 1990s, he closed down all the sheriff’s offices in the province and replaced these seasoned officers with desk clerks.
Rick Hiltz
if some one was posing as a sheriff they were impersonating an officer of the law a criminal offense
Tracy Sutton
Thank you for the article started reading it ..do the next step is to put them on notice
Rick Hiltz
go back to the acting sheriff and ask them why they were attempting to impersonate an officer of the law . Ask them if they realize that to do so is a criminal offense also if they signed any documents as acting sheriff they committed an act of fraud and are subject to arrest for doing so
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