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Non.

I understand that you are a proud Québécois, but the people here have nothing but contempt for you because of decades of transfer payments and NONE OF YOU understanding what Quebec sovereignty means. None of you know who Russell Rogers Smith is, and you're too proud and arrogant to teach. Just go away and be Retardier somewhere else.

Volume 7

Jul 31, 2014 2:32 PM

Pete Daoust

I am in the Hospital, for a chiurgical operation, the health insurance card is expired, they want me to PAY, they have no idea how much though :-D

This is freaking funny :-D

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Pete Daoust

They really have no fucking Idea.... :-D

I've been asking question to the health care, to avoid create joinder with that insurance card with pictures, they NEVER answered the one question posed....I have asked 4 times via registered mail....

Pete Daoust

Ok.....here is the story....

Dec. 2013: I receive a letter from the Health Care departement, asking to renew the insurance health care card, and to renew the picture of my face on it. On this renewal form, there is a section where they ask DATE OF BIRTH.

Dec.2013: I send them a letter, asking to confirm to me in writing, which date of birth they want, mine which is feb. the 19th ? ....or the person I happen to have, which is March the 6th.

The reason I asked that question is because, it seems to me, that it's the PERSON who is insured, and not me the man.....I literally explained that to them, in writing......I also told them that I will NOT argue what they will put in WRITING, I am just going to do EXACTLY what they are telling me to do...

Pete Daoust

So guess what ?.....no answer, so I sent a second, a third and a fourth letter......explaining them that until they respond, I have NO insurance card, and it's THEIR FAULT, and they are fully liable for any prejudices that might cause....

David-Paul Sip

Ask her to look it up in the fucking fee schedule....yes they have one. It's what they use to charge the province. The fees they charge are set by the province. Then ask her what are the fees they charge for privately :D

Pete Daoust

An hour later, she say, we had to cancel your operation, we will call you to re schedule a date, and in the mean time, fix your insurance card issue.....I said....WHY.....I WANT TO PAY, and I will pay you in ADVANCE !!!!!!!!!

David-Paul Sip

When my wife went in to a private clinic for an ultrasound she was asked for her health card. Being a little shit I asked if they had a fee schedule if I did not have a health card. "Yes we do" and they told me they charge the same fee that they charge to the province. This seems to me to suggest they could charge a different fee if they choose.

Pete Daoust

Now, I am NOT sure if my life is in peril, but according to the doctor, I really need these two hernia to get fixed, because if they explode inside of me, that could be messy :D

So if they are refusing me to pay to fix them, what's the fuck up !!??

2. Every human being whose life is in peril has a right to assistance.

Every person must come to the aid of anyone whose life is in peril, either personally or calling for aid, by giving him the necessary and immediate physical assistance, unless it involves danger to himself or a third person, or he has another valid reason.

Pete Daoust

Janick, the counter where I was, was literally IN the bloc operatoire, and I was going there to get an operation....I was really sure to get operate this morning, I was NOT prepaired for that fuck up..... :(

Pete Daoust

Well, I tried very hard this morning, I had a friend ready to come at the hospital, with a hockey bag, filled with debt notes, to PAY IN ADVANCE for this fucking reparation....I also had a credit card ready, in my hand.....I was in full COOPERATION mode :D

Chris Ó Súilleabháin

Ey, Captain this isn't the time to be a martyr now. The drones won't answer a lot of my questions here either. They either look dumbfounded or repeat some variation of the script they were programmed with.

Matteo Danny Beauregard

But woulnt they be Liable for any damages cause to you they did Refused to treat you even tho you are Willing to pay and the pretext that they dont know how much it cost is complete bullshit i went 7 years whithout a medicare card and i got injured to my arm i had to pay a small fee to each of my visits like the doctor rate and the plastre to go around my arm total cost 80$ and it was in cowanville quebec when i was fix up so whats make you any different than me while i had no medicare card

Steph Boucher

I would say that playing on their game pad means you gotta comply to the rules or find systemic loopholes like paying with the SURETY of your PERSON, please note that I mean loophole have not something negative but something they didn't want you to find out.

Or find a place where they take cash. For exemple, Ontario. They have 2 speed systems there, unsure if you need to be resident tho.

Kevin Stephens

Focus on getting better the rest will come. My boy broke his arm, needed emergency surgery and hospital stay ambulance rides and follow up visits. I planned to be responsible for all expenses even though I had no I idea where I could get the money to pay it off. I stayed positive and know the universe will never give me more then I can handle. With that being said, a week later we got a letter in the mail, apparently from some company bc I hadn't been able to add my boy to my company insurence. They ended up waiving all bills. I paid out 500$ on a 40k+ bill. Trust and believe

Scott Duncan

Kevin Stephens allow me to be the first in this group to call you an idiot. :D

"I stayed positive and know the universe will never give me more then I can handle." - REALLY? It's idiotic things like that, which allow criminals to rule your life.

Dump that belief NOW.

You aren't "special".

You know what bullshit phrases like "I stayed positive and know the universe will never give me more then I can handle" are good for?

Captioning photos ironically. http://cdn.meme.li/instances/500x/53153992.jpg

Pete Daoust

David Vilaca, I am writing to the health care office, as we speak, my goal is NOT to hit them with some shit, my goal and INTENT is for them to say to me IN WRITING, that me, the man, I am the BENEFICIARY of that insured person, and that is WHY "my" date of birth should be written on this renewal thing, and the picture they need, is to identity the BENEFICIARY of the insured person. :D

Pete Daoust

If they persist on NOT responding, I will have 9111-1111 Quebec Inc PAY for this operation, and then 9111-1111 Quebec Inc will send a BILL to PIERRE DAOUST for cost plus FEES :D

And then I will create a Bill of Exchange for PIERRE DAOUST, and then 9111-1111 Quebec Inc will deposit that thing in its bank account :D

HAHAHAHA!!!!

Scott Duncan

These "Feel Good" types are people who mean you harm by even existing. The feed the programming you already have and mean you harm by their very nature.

This is the result of NO critical thinking abilities. Truth is lost with these people, and they protect their bullshit violently. It takes a special kind of stupid to embrace such a mindset. If nothing else, you will learn that these people cannot be fixed, and WHY they cannot be fixed.

Cara Small

I once believed the "positive universe" crap......just sayin'. Not that I think anyone can be "fixed". I feel like an ex-smoker around these people. Until they ACTUALLY think (which means accepting that they don't) there is NOTHING that can be done. I just like slapping them with reality, because it worked for me.

Kevin Stephens

Scott Duncan I'm so sry I'm am idiot, I guess ill just leave this group full of wisdom and bitching, sometime u have to roll with the punches unlike anyone else I'm offering advise and no differ then others saying there is a way to lower payment. Well he'll yea there is.. But anyway I guess the other side is do nothing and suffer. FML sry or smart one.. This is my last post I'm Done with negative ppl in my life. Hope u work the situation out by bitching. That will get u far

Scott Duncan

Note that the piece of shit talks like he's ENTITLED to be an idiot. He ignores the fact that I did not invite him. He ignored the mandate of the group, and claims he was "giving advice" (which they always do), even though HE'S clearly UNQUALIFIED TO BE GIVING ANY!

...THEN he gets all butt-hurt when he's called out on his stupidity.

David-Paul Sip

Everyone saw that right? The admiral was right on cue too...you can't plan that shit. It's like the Admiral's bullshit alarm sounded and he ran to the bridge when this guy began spreading his diarrhea everywhere, lol!

Pete Daoust

I do not need "luck", and I do not COUNT on luck.....I am just doing what needs to be done......

I "know" chances aren't on my side, as far as ANSWERS, I am not stupid, but the FILE I am creating, is somehow filled with proof of BREACH OF TRUST, I will need these proof at one point, or maybe not....but if I need them, I will have them....

I think giving them the opportunity on telling the truth is a good thing to do, I gave them dozens of these opportunities, so far, and NOPE, they just won't, when I'll have a hundred of these done, I will have to KNOW, at 100%, that I am NOT "believing", but FACTS will be established....

Some say I am waisting time, I don't see it as such.... :)

Dino Disenfranchised

The reason I put "luck" in quotations is I see this word similar to "wish", "hope", "pray", "worry"... having no relevance other than in a fictional sense, intangible, moreover to convey a sentiment of emotion.

I resist using words as these but am at a loss for the ideal salutation.

I have want for Pete Daoust to be well.

For some reason, that doesn't flow as well. :)

David Vilaca

A 100 opportunities seems a little overboard but there must be no mistake as to the integrity. As expensive as it is, staying in honour is principle. You must be close to that number by now. That's a lot of value to port over to the MEGA-PERSON ;p

Janick Paquette

Pete Daoust :

What she should have been told is:

You don't "HAVE" a legal person, so our legal world can't do anything for you, got get a legal person, and we will keep you "IN SECURITY"

Janick:

Well said Captain!

Matthew Gundry

Pete, I'm genuinely interested in how your current situation develops. Considering that you're willing to pay, what alternatives do you have to the particular hospital and medical staff you've been dealing with so far? Surely paying for treatment is normal at private hospitals, do you have access to any of those? Is medical tourism an option for you?

Re: your earlier comment - --- 2. Every human being whose life is in peril has a right to assistance.

Every person must come to the aid of anyone whose life is in peril, either personally or calling for aid, by giving him the necessary and immediate physical assistance, unless it involves danger to himself or a third person, or he has another valid reason. --- Where is the right and the assistance for that child in the pictures Scott linked to? What you wrote about 'Every person must come to the aid ... ' has one heck of a collectivist ring to it. What's with that?

Pete Daoust

Can this be useful ? Gail...

Bank of Canada

Routing Numbers / Numéros d'acheminement Electronic Paper(MICR) électronique Papier(MICR) Postal Address - Addresse postale 017700000 00000-177 Banking Services, 245 Sparks Street, Ottawa, ON K1A 0G9 017700006 00006-177 Banking Services, 245 Sparks Street, Ottawa, ON K1A 0G9

http://www.cdnpay.ca/imis15/pdf/pdfs_directory/MBRBNKSN.pdf

Gail Marie

Pete Daoust I look at the remittances I've received...each one has the same last 3 digits, but the 5 before it are different........for example XXXXX-900...this makes me think finding what the 900 represents may be important?

Pete Daoust

But if I get to create Bill of Exchange, these routing codes might be helpful.....I am looking at this because I will have to create bill of exchange very soon, for account statement sent by 9111-1111 Quebec Inc to PIERRE DAOUST...

Since 9111-1111 Quebec inc will be deposit these Bills of exchange in its bank account, I want to cover every possible angles.... :D

Pete Daoust

No, the corp may send an ACCOUNT STATEMENT, with a detachable portion at the bottom, called a remittance, and you can transform this remittance into a negotiable instrument called a Bill of Exchange.....

Vincent Claeys

I was thinking about this while falling asleep yesterday... if the clerk at the bloc opératoire didn't know what to do regarding payment maybe someone within the administration, for instance accounts receivable or maybe the head of accounting, could write PIERRE DAOUST a bill which you could then complete?

Pete Daoust

I went to see the administration department, they were ready to give me an invoice of $1160.00, for hospital and their staff, but they could NOT put the charges for the doctor, and the anestesist, because these two are CONTRACTORS......so I tried to have the cost from these two missing items on the invoice, and they simply REFUSED.....they didn't came to tell me this in my face, they used the little girl at the counter....

Pete Daoust

I have sent a letter, yesterday to the health care services, telling them that all this is their fault, because since december 2013 I am trying to have a simple answer to a simple question, four times I have asked, and they just don't answer, so I can't fill that renewal thing, because I am waiting on them to give me an answer.....

I copied the Minister of Health Care Service, Gaetan Barrette, and this morning, I received a letter from his attach” politique, saying that : Rest assure that we have red your concern with interest, and they have reached our PROFOUND consideration, and they will follow up on it :D

Fuck, I HAVE ONE SINGLE FUCKING QUESTION :-o

Vincent Claeys

I thought doctors here in Quebec were public servants working for the hospital. Since they're CONTRACTORS couldn't you demand an invoice directly from them? Although I suppose getting in touch with them directly could be complicated...

Pete Daoust

But that dosen't change anything, I am still pushing them to answer my question...

Do I put March the 6th on that renewal form, which is the person's birth date, or do I put feb. the 19th, which is MY birth date :D

And I need a WRITTEN answer, and they know WHY I am asking this question......so lets wait for an answer :D

Will Bed

And the important thing in what Pete said is "WHATEVER THE ANSWER"...

As ANY answer - whatsoever - to that question - other than "sorry we do not understand what are you talking about sir?" - would imply UNDERSTANDING that there are INDEED 2 different entities, a MAN and a PERSON...

Once one of those stupid public trustee / AGENT steps outta line and CONFIRMS this fact in a way that it can be RECORDED, you can go ballistic, as the AGENCY/Government now ACCOUNTS for it...

Will Bed

I should have mentionned, LEGAL definitions. LEGAL is SURETY and ACCOUNTING.

Beneficiary A broad definition for any person or entity (like a charity) who is to receive assets or profits from an estate, a trust, an insurance policy or any instrument in which there is distribution.

Creditor An individual to whom an obligation is owed because he or she has given something of value in exchange.

So... Who's creditor of value in all of this, Cedar Pine, and who's to benefit ?

David-Paul Sip

"Do I put March the 6th on that renewal form, which is the person's birth date, or do I put feb. the 19th, which is MY birth date" Capitain Pete

Omg, I'm turning into a terminology Nazi! :o The PERSON is a VESSEL and has a birth date or DATE OF BIRTH. The man has a birthday. BIRTH DATE is the ADMIRALTY term akin to passPORTs, BIRTH certificates etc. Am I wrong?

I can't help but laugh wondering if the Minister of Health Care Service would NOTICE the difference if asked "Do I put March the 6th on that renewal form, which is the person's date of birth, or do I put feb. the 19th, which is MY birthday"

David-Paul Sip

I love what you do in Frenglish...I wonder if that would work here in Ontario ;)

I don't nderstand what you mean by "changing words". Are you talking about VESSEL? That's Admiralty. There was a thread started by Will Bed where the PERSON = VESSEL. Or am I mistaken? If so forgive me.

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