So I received a parking ticket. Which thread would help explain how to administrate this. Or would refusal for cause be more appropriate?
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Will Bed
Who got that ticket, H Julian Spyer ?
H Julian Spyer
the person H Julian Spyer received it
Will Bed
OK so what do you wish to do with that ?
H Julian Spyer
I have two paths that seem to fit, need to effectively learn both.
1. REFUSAL FOR CAUSE
2. Administrate,
Will Bed
Refusal for cause, I don't think I can help you with that...
H Julian Spyer
Let's work with what you do know, I am here to learn. ..
Will Bed
Let's go the administration way then !
H Julian Spyer
Sweet
H Julian Spyer
That is what I really want to understand.
Will Bed
So who will administrate that ticket ?
Pete Daoust
:D
H Julian Spyer
Hmmm, sole administrator, I have read in other thread, how else can I refer to myself
H Julian Spyer
Hey Pete
Will Bed
And WHO is yourself exactly ?
Will Bed
HELLOSSSSS H Julian Spyer ?? :p
H Julian Spyer
Me the living spirit within this fleshy garb
Will Bed
Can you PROVE that you are a LIVING SPIRIT H Julian Spyer ??
H Julian Spyer
I'm here aren't I
H Julian Spyer
I don't think I need proof
H Julian Spyer
Or that could be some freedum stuff lol
Will Bed
H Julian Spyer I'm here aren't I
Artifical Intelligence is getting pretty good at tricking people over the web you know...
Will Bed
So WHERE are you exactly ?
H Julian Spyer
True that
H Julian Spyer
How do you mean? Location new jersey not the shore! I am in my mind.
Will Bed
OK so are there many SPIRITS in New Jersey ? And do all those SPIRITS have PERSONS ??
David-Paul Sip
:D
H Julian Spyer
I would say many demons in nj pretending to be spirits... yes most I would imagine have persons. Anyone can get a person around here. Disgusting.
Will Bed
Have you ever seen a SPIRIT H Julian Spyer ??
I don't know about NJ, but up here in Canada, you must be either a MAN or a WOMAN to have a PERSON ?
H Julian Spyer
Got ya, I am in my body the fleshy garb
H Julian Spyer
I am a Man
Will Bed
GOOD. I'm sure you can PROVE you are a MAN !
Still, do you believe in SPIRITS and DEMONS H Julian Spyer ?
H Julian Spyer
Lol, never seen evidence to either
Will Bed
So why do you say there are DEMONS and SPIRITS in NJ ?
Pete Daoust
:D
Will Bed
HELLOOOOS H Julian Spyer ??
Here in reality we have a ticket to administrate ;)
H Julian Spyer
Yes we do
Will Bed
So are there still DEMONS and SPIRITS in NJ ?
H Julian Spyer
The man will administrate on behalf of the person
Will Bed
So you KNOW you are a MAN and you can PROVE it, and you KNOW you HAVE a PERSON and you can PROVE it ?
And because ENGLISH isn't my first language, give me one second here !
H Julian Spyer
No sorry I ever said anything of the kind hahaha
H Julian Spyer
How exactly do I prove it, I don't want to assume I know what you know
Will Bed
"on behalf of the person"
I think "on behalf of" means "for who asked me to do it for him" am I correct ?
H Julian Spyer
Sounds correct,
Will Bed
I don't think the PERSON ever asked you to administrate FOR it... Matter of fact, you don't work for that PERSON and you NEVER ASKED to be a REPRESENTATIVE or AGENT or whatever word that means you are WORKING FOR THE PERSON... Because the PERSON is the GOVERNMENT. You never even asked for a PERSON, have you ??
Best way to look at it is you ADMINISTRATE a 20$ bill, you don't ADMINISTRATE ON BEHALF OF the 20$ bill... get that ?
Chris Evan
Beneficial usage!
Will Bed
Are you still around H Julian Spyer ??
H Julian Spyer
Yes, wrapping my head around it,
H Julian Spyer
So is the person the 20$?
Will Bed
NO !
H Julian Spyer
Damm
Will Bed
Can you PROVE you have a PERSON, or do you have REASONS TO BELIEVE you have one ??
Will Bed
So what makes you BELIEVE you may even HAVE a PERSON ???
H Julian Spyer
I have reasons to believe I have one
Will Bed
What is a PERSON H Julian Spyer ?
H Julian Spyer
birth certificate, and some other documents in my possession
David-Paul Sip
:D
Will Bed
"Some other documents" ??
H Julian Spyer
Ssn card, license, etc
H Julian Spyer
A person can be many things
Will Bed
And how can you PROVE all of that paperwork isn't the MAN ?
It's all legal stuff,
and a PERSON is a legal entity used to do commercial / legal stuff.
Will Bed
You have a birth certificate. Do you also have an Act of birth ?
H Julian Spyer
No act of birth that I know of
H Julian Spyer
Person is a legal status of sorts
Will Bed
Status ? Where did you get that ?
Who's / What's status is your PERSON ?
Will Bed
Let's get this straight :
A PERSON is a PERSON. It's a legal entity. A SLAVE. It is NOT you and it has NOTHING to do with who you are.
Pete Daoust
Like a kitchen table ? :/
Will Bed
Who would argue a Kitchen table is a status ?
Will Bed
H Julian Spyer you still here ? We need to find out what that PERSON is if you want to administrate it !
Will Bed
Broken can be a status of a kitchen table.
Married can be a status of a PERSON.
Idle can be a status of an Internet connection...
Is BUSY the current status of H Julian Spyer ???
H Julian Spyer
Lousy connection need a moment
H Julian Spyer
The definition with status in it is
http://usa-the-republic.com/mark%20of%20beast/AppendixD.htm
H Julian Spyer
Let's get this straight :
A PERSON is a PERSON. It's a legal entity. A SLAVE. It is NOT you and it has NOTHING to do with who you are. Got it.
Will Bed
Got the birth certificate in your hands ?
H Julian Spyer
No
Will Bed
That would be helpful.
H Julian Spyer
I will be home in an hour, have one there
H Julian Spyer
I have a Birth Registration Certificate
Will Bed
What does that piece of paper CERTIFY ?
H Julian Spyer
It certifies that someone recorded my name and alleged birth date
Will Bed
WHAT NAME ?
Scott Duncan
Awesome thread so far! If this was a navy, I'd make Will Bed an Executive Officer of a vessel. :D
Will Bed
And is that a Birth certificate on bond / money paper ? Or something else ?
H Julian Spyer
Opps, not my name, but the name of the person
Scott Duncan
H Julian Spyer - DUMP THE SPIRIT SHIT. Seriously. I know it hurts your feelings... but there is no such thing.
I can DISPROVE "Spirits and Souls and Afterlife" with just two words.
Ready?
Scott Duncan
ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE
H Julian Spyer
Not bond paper
Scott Duncan
Is that Nana's "spirit" screaming "Who are you! WHERE'S MY LEMONS! Move my kitty to the banana patch!"?
Will Bed
Pete Daoust, Chris Evan Mackximus Minimus or Scott Duncan , Is that an american Live birth registration ??
Scott Duncan
You don't have a "soul" you have software.
H Julian Spyer
You have the gift Scott, she loved lemons and always played with her kitty
Chris Evan
It isn't a SURETY BOND as there is no BOND number
Scott Duncan
That's a municipal registration. It's a "coupon". It's like a bus transfer. It's only the TRANSIT of the record.
H Julian Spyer
I don't have the bond one
Chris Evan
Department of Vital Statistics!
Will Bed
Alright so FIRST THING you must do H Julian Spyer is contact the Registrar's office down there and ask for the Act of birth and Birth certificate. These 2 documents are the most important you'll need.
Scott Duncan
You only need the DATA from it. It's the SECURITY that YOU want to SECURE.
H Julian Spyer
Ok
H Julian Spyer
Scott , so I don't need to have the items Will mentioned.?
Will Bed
Once you get those papers, you come back here and we'll take it from there !
Will Bed
You need to be able to PROVE the info that's on those papers... having both documents may help ;)
H Julian Spyer
In the mean time, what would be the suggested route with the parking ticket?
H Julian Spyer
What info is needed and can I just assert that I have it. Who would dispute it
Will Bed
NEVER SAY OR DO SOMETHING YOU CANNOT BACK 100% !!!!
Pete Daoust would probably say, just write a short letter and ask them :
Hey dear (WHOEVER the ticket is from) I got a ticket here that was issued to H JULIAN SPYER, and I wish you tell if it's TRUE that I have the RIGHT to use the SURETY of the PERSON named H JULIAN SPYER to discharge this PUBLIC DEBT ?
And wait...
Will Bed
And you sign that letter like this :
By : _____(signature)______________
Sole Authorized Administrator for H JULIAN SPYER
SIN# (since you don't have the PERSON's registration#)
H Julian Spyer
Sin# is that the social security number?
Scott Duncan
In the US it's SOCIAL SECURITY, and in CANADA, it's SOCIAL INSURANCE.
READ
THOSE
WORDS
Will Bed
Yes it is.
I don't know how bitchy they are down there with tickets, but here, I'd wait to get the Act of birth and Birth certificate...
This slip could have been picked up by anyone, or even the wind, so they'll send a new copy by mail in a couple weeks if they don't hear from you...
Scott Duncan
If i put a word in CAPS when I describe LEGAL TERMS, you should LOOK THEM UP! <---I was yelling there.
H Julian Spyer
Looking up now, any particular dictionaries, I tend to use shaffer1826
H Julian Spyer
So we the people are security/ surety for debt, ha...
Gerry Odonothing
What I wouldn't give to have a KITCHEN TABLE.
H Julian Spyer
They are overrated Gerry
Gerry Odonothing
Not according to the Captain, he has lots of uses for his, like staring at Legal Tender.
H Julian Spyer
Hmmm
Scott Duncan
This paper you posted says COMPLAINT and SUMMONS.
So they are whining and they are calling to over to their "court" to make sure you hear them whine?
H Julian Spyer
Since I don't have the BC, what would be some other options to administrate?
Scott Duncan
COMPLAINT = Whining
SUMMONS = Beckoning
Stuart Stone
Go with Black's 9th...it's not 1826 anymore.
I recall that a link for Black's was put in the files section of this page, otherwise, try here:
I have blacks 8th, I enjoy the older ones, let's you see changes in the meanings
Stuart Stone
Granted, but it is probably in your best interests to go with current meanings....ye olde definitions are for ye olde times ;-)
H Julian Spyer
TRUE
Will Bed
H Julian Spyer : Since I don't have the BC, what would be some other options to administrate?
You dont. You don't have the tools.
You don't even have a BILL to administrate this...
If they CHARGE YOU with something, they must send a BILL. And they won't send a BILL until they declare the DEFENDANT GUILTY of the CHARGE. So you ask the question and WAIT !
But in the meantime, you could start your STAMPS collection so - as a good administrator - when the time comes to ADMINISTRATE you are actually READY to ADMINISTRATE !
Will Bed
Pete Daoust show H Julian Spyer your STAMPS collection !
Anibal Jose Baez
Awesome, Will! :D
H Julian Spyer
What do you mean by stamps collection
Stuart Stone
It looks like study time... :D
Watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJBblYulqFc
Read and comprehend the Bills of Exchange Act for where the person resides. Once you comprehend what is going on, you will then know that you will need some rubber stamps with very specific things printed on them, to assist You with Your administration duties.
No Sopranos for you tonight, start watching some useful stuff...and then read :D
PS: The $1.05 mentioned in the New Zealand Act doesn't appear to have an equivalent in the jurisdictions I have seen so far, so the valuable consideration you may wish to provide would be a certified copy of the Birth Certificate, which will show the party acting as surety for the person...but that is not Your concern for now.
Yes...but Eamonn, I am not sure about the Irish Banking System, but I am pretty sure that here in the States, the Social Security Number is only for the Social Security jurisdiction. Once you use that number outside that jurisdiction, lets say to open a Bank Account, I am fairly sure that it is only a Social Security Number in de facto status....it probably should be called a "Treasury Number" or a "Banking Number" or something like that.....
Pete Daoust
An ACCOUNT number :)
Pete Daoust
An EMPLOYEE number :)
Pete Daoust
A SLAVE's barcode number :D
Chris Evan
Sure...but its not a SSN outside of that jurisdiction! it is a unique identifying number.
Kawni Gilroy
The 3 Notice Process works well for parking. Tickets...
Pete Daoust
The "don't park in no parking spot" process is an excellent one too ! :-D
H Julian Spyer
How does the 3 notice process go,
And what is the don't park in no parking spot process
Pete Daoust
:O
Pete Daoust
Hellooss ? :-(
H Julian Spyer
It was a meter
H Julian Spyer
Everyone, I appreciate all the comments... Will thank for the amount of time you put forth with me. How ever I won't have my BC till next week, but I would like to handle this ticket. Could some please describe a usable process. Thank you
Anibal Jose Baez
Paying! :D
H Julian Spyer
That is exactly what I would like to do but I don't have the BC ?
Anibal Jose Baez
Whip out the cash. Reality is that there is no quick fix here. Why don't you cut your losses, and keep studying, and better prepare for next time?
H Julian Spyer
I feel ya, what about the 3 notice process
Anibal Jose Baez
I would not do anything I did not fully comprehend. You'll end-up spending more time/money.
H Julian Spyer
I have a good understanding just want someone who has done it to give pointers advice...
Anibal Jose Baez
If you don't have the full amount, send portions, until you settle. Remain making payments, even if it is just $20.
H Julian Spyer
It is only a $30 parking ticket, that is why I want to practice with it
Anibal Jose Baez
Hahahahaha! $30? Give me my time back, then!
H Julian Spyer
Lol
Will Bed
You should actually TAKE ADVANTAGE of the fact that this is just a $30 ticket... Not as if a $30 claim was gonna stress you and ruin your life, even if that should take a couple months...
Learn with that $30 ticket. And learning implies you must start with the BASIC FACTS and on the RIGHT tracks.
The ROOT FACT is that this ticket was ISSUED to a PERSON. You seem to UNDERSTAND that. Now let's make sure you can PROVE it to anyone who'd dare challenge you on this one. So WAIT until you get the BC. Then you'll be on your tracks !
For now, the only thing you CAN DO, if you wish to, is to ask QUESTIONS. (Or you buy back that debt and miss out on a great learning opportunity...)
The FIRST logical QUESTION should be (too bad this shit still isn't second nature enough to me as it is to Pete Daoust, because I'd have LOVED to ask that question FROM THE VERY BEGINNING to ANYONE sending a PUBLIC DEBT to WB...) :
Hey dear (WHOEVER the ticket is from) I got a ticket here that was issued to H JULIAN SPYER, and I wish you tell me if it's TRUE that I have the RIGHT to use the SURETY of the PERSON named H JULIAN SPYER to discharge this PUBLIC DEBT ?
And wait...
Anibal Jose Baez
Or, you can pay the $30, to avoid penalties and any fees, but STILL write with all the questions you want.
Will Bed
Well ME, I wouldn't want to give them MORE reasons to BELIEVE I'm the PERSON buy buying that shit back so easily...
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