It seems to me, if your Trustee Corporation that has seized the PERSON and deposited that security into a Trust, then this corporation would be entitled to all the value of the seized security.
So if a Bill is presented, would you not accept these and send them to the Bank of Canada to receive the value of this Bill? Send a copy of the security and the financing statement for payment to the Trustee Corporation?
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
...and nothing :(
David-Paul Sip
Must be rush hour...everyone's stuck in traffic ;)
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Pete Daoust
Sorry Beverly, what was the question ? :(
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
If you have CLAIMED the SECURITY via a Trustee Corporation, would you not ACCEPT bills of exchange and send them to the Bank of Canada for payment TO your Trustee Corporation in order to RECEIVE the credit and then can SETTLE PAYMENT on the bills?
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Pete Daoust
That makes sense...!!! :/
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
If your trustee corporation has LIENED the PERSON IN YOUR POCKET, which would mean this corporation has FIRST INTEREST/BENEFIT in any use of PERSON, then would you ACCEPT BILLS for credit to CORPORATION? And then could make SETTLEMENT on the BILLS?
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
If other corporations are using the PERSON for their BENEFIT, would your Trustee Corporation not step in?
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Pete Daoust
Oh yes and yes... :D
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
So, if some other corporation was to send a Bill, instead of administrating it for their benefit (since they refuse to adjust their account) would you not accept it for your Trustee Corporation's benefit?
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Pete Daoust
Why are you getting all intellectual over that shit, Beverly :(
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Because they refuse to adjust their accounts regardless and will not answer any questions and have absolutely no problem leaving you in the dark, literally. :/
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Pete Daoust
Maybe sending a few invoices.. ?
Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Done, liened and still nothing.
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Pete Daoust
Who's that ?
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
But there will be a new bill each week...
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Utility companies
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Pete Daoust
I wish I could help, but I don't have this problem, so far :(
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
That's cause the French are all wirey and freak out all the time :D
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Pete Daoust
HAHAHAHA!!!!!
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Kickin' up a fuss every time something doesn't go their way...
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Steeve (Flames) is french... always fussin' when he doesn't get his way :D
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Michael Staffieri
even if your logic is correct...you're assuming someone on the receiving end knows what to do with it
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Scott Duncan
NO!
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Scott Duncan
OK Look at it this way:
If I give you all my private possessions to look after (Because I Trust you) and we publicly declare this arrangement, that DOES NOT mean YOU have the right to the VALUE of my private possessions.
Get it?
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Scott Duncan
You don't get to SELL my possessions. You don't get to use and/or damage them either.
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LaNi Black
...so she can't accept the bills of exchange as credit for her corporation?
They (the utility corporation) gave/provided (the corporation that has liened Beverly) the utility for her to look after in a publicly declared arrangement, and that does not allow her to claim the value on that bill of exchange for her trustee corporation's benefit?
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Scott Duncan
No. It's a COMMERCIAL transaction. The CORPORATION must honour the bill.
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LaNi Black
Beverly's corporation?
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Scott Duncan
Yes
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LaNi Black
okay.
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Scott Duncan
Here's the fun part: Once the corporation does this, send a bill for the balance. The TRUST cannot have a negative balance.
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Scott Duncan
TRUST LAW > COMMERCIAL LAW
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LaNi Black
The corporation bills whom for the balance to bring accounting to zero?
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LaNi Black
not the original utility corporation?
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LaNi Black
Scott, can you come back to this one?
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
I only meant in an effort to administrate those bills on behalf of the beneficiary.
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LaNi Black
can you explain what he meant by corporation then bills for the balance.
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LaNi Black
your corporation administrating those bills on behalf of your person, that is the beneficiary?
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Pete Daoust
Send a bill back to the beneficiary for the balance, and that balance should be the cost of the bill paid, plus the corp fees ?
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David-Paul Sip
Perhaps the balance is what remains of the amount that Beverly 's corporation originally liened her person for. Since this lien has first position than the utility company would have to settle this before it can make any claims. No?
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Gail Marie
Send a bill back to the beneficiary for the balance, and that balance should be the cost of the bill paid, plus the corp fees ?
then the person signs it and returns it to the trustee corp administrated and the corp sends it to the bank of canada?
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Gail Marie
Not unlike what, as sole authorized adminstrators, we expect corporations to do with completed bills we return to them?
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
David-Paul Sip NO
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Oh. In bankruptcy it is a liability for the bank and an asset for the trust? Bill them to balance the books?
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Scott Duncan
It's NO different than what Pete does.
The CORPORATION is the SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR for the NAME.
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Scott Duncan
EVERYBODY GET THAT?
Gail Marie
YES!!! Thank YOU
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
That is what our trustee corporation HAS been doing, but bill them the balance?
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LaNi Black
send the bill back to Beverly, Beverly signs it, sends that to her trustee corporation, the corporation sends it to bank of Canada for accounting purposes....I think I got that.
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Scott Duncan
You know how to show gratitude. Talk's cheap honey!
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Gail Marie
ha!
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LaNi Black
this is ink on a balance sheet, backed by no exchange of physical money...like loans?
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Gail Marie
should anything, for example, a utility bill in the name GAIL BLACKMAN be changed to the corp name?
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
No, that's why the corporation liened the name. It is the security.
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
So bill the "utility corporation" for the value taken from the security? To balance the books?
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
uuummm
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LaNi Black
using pete's dictionary as the point of reference for this question....
so when Beverly was born, a few days later she was registered (PERSON BORN), and bank of Canada accepted surety for that registration to post it as collateral against a public debt. whatever balance remains under her registration can be used to administrate the debt of her person via her trustee corporation because it has liened the name?
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LaNi Black
and bank of Canada has no option but to honor it because they accepted that surety for collateral without her consent/prior to her being able to consent?
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Pete Daoust
so when Beverly was born, a few days later a PERSON was created for her.
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Pete Daoust
And the government signed the surety bond for that person, which the government has put in collateral over the public debt, without Beverly' consent.....
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LaNi Black
okay. so Beverly has taken steps to administrate a debt through her trustee corp....in this case they are not honoring the law and satisfying the debt. what does she do now? she has liened the account, and still nothing.
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
The Bank of Canada definitely accepts them, the corporations will not adjust the books... hence the problem
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LaNi Black
ah. okay
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Pete Daoust
So every public debts being sent to the PERSON, Beverly happen to have, without asking for it, signed for it, demanding for it, being instructed about it, can be discharged via the person's surety
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LaNi Black
as in the utilities (corporations) won't adjust their books as being satisfied?
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
As a matter of fact, if you do not sign the back the BOC will send them back REGISTERED MAIL...
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Pete Daoust
I really suspect these corporation ALREADY sent these BoE for discharge, before they even sent it to the person......That is WHY they have a PROBLEM when we send them as completed bill of exchange, they can not present the same thing twice......they are fucked, so they will do whatever they can for you to buy the debt :(
I am NOT sure here, but what other reasons they may have ? :/
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Gail Marie
ok just to be sure I do get it, let me reconfirm....Example: Utility company
1. Trustee corp deals with the bill that the utility company sends to GAIL BLACKMAN
2. It's their responsibility to "pay" the debt.
3. So they can "pay" it and bill GAIL BLACKMAN for the amount who will then administrate that bill of exchange and return it to the trustee corp complete,
4. The corp then takes the completed bill of exchange and sends it to the bank of canada
5. The bank of canada will then send an equivalent amount of money of exchange to the trustee corp, and this will balance the trustee corps books
6. An alternative is that the trustee corp could bill GAIL BLACKMAN for the amount of the utility bill have her complete the bill of exchange...send it off to the bank of canada and pay the utility bill once they have received the money of exchange from the bank of canada?
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Pete Daoust
What is the other reasons they may have ? ... Scott Duncan ? :/
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Pete Daoust
How incompetent can you be ? :(
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LaNi Black
who?
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Pete Daoust
THESE CORPORATION !!!
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Pete Daoust
WHY IN THE FUCK, THEY JUST DON'T PRESENT THESE FUCKING COMPLETED BILL OF EXCHANGE TO FUCKING BANK OF CANADA ? :d
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Pete Daoust
:D
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CJ ML
COMMERCIAL INVOICE:
A commercial invoice is document used in foreign trade. It is a document required by customs to determine true value of the imported goods, for assessment of duties and taxes. Even though there is no standard format it should identify the buyer and seller, clearly indicate the (1) date and terms of sale, (2) quantity, weight and/or volume of the shipment, (3) type of packaging, (4) complete description of goods, (5) unit value and total value, and (6) insurance, shipping and other charges. A commercial invoice must also include a statement certifying that the invoice is true, and a signature.
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
Invoice:
An itemized statement or written account of goods sent to a purchaser or consignee by a vendor that indicates the quantity and price of each piece of merchandise shipped.
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Bill of Lading:
A document signed by a carrier (a transporter of goods) or the carrier's representative and issued to a consignor (the shipper of goods) that evidences the receipt of goods for shipment to a specified designation and person.
Carriers using all modes of transportation issue bills of lading when they undertake the transportation of cargo. A bill of lading is, in addition to a receipt for the delivery of goods, a contract for their carriage and a document of title to them. Its terms describe the freight for identification purposes; state the name of the consignor and the provisions of the contract for shipment; and direct the cargo to be delivered to the order or assigns of a particular person, the consignee, at a designated location.
There are two basic types of bills of lading. A straight bill of lading is one in which the goods are consigned to a designated party. An order bill is one in which the goods are consigned to the order of a named party. This distinction is important in determining whether a bill of lading is negotiable (capable of transferring title to the goods covered under it by its delivery or endorsement). If its terms provide that the freight is to be delivered to the bearer (or possessor) of the bill, to the order of a named party, or, as recognized in overseas trade, to a named person or assigns, a bill, as a document of title, is negotiable. In contrast, a straight bill is not negotiable.
State laws, which often include provisions from the Uniform Commercial Code, regulate the duties and liabilities imposed by bills of lading covering goods shipped within state boundaries. Federal law, embodied in the Interstate Commerce Act (49 U.S.C. [1976 Ed.] — 1 et seq.) apply to bills of lading covering goods traveling in interstate commerce.
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
Bill:
A declaration in writing. A document listing separate items. An itemized account of charges or costs. In Equity practice, the first Pleading in the action, the paper in which the plaintiff sets out his or her case and demands relief from the defendant.
Many states require that laws must be passed by their state legislatures in the form of a bill. For example, the Texas Constitution requires that "no law shall be passed, except by bill, and no bill shall be so amended in its passage through either House, as to violent change its original purpose." Tex. Const. art. III, — 30. Likewise, the California Constitution may not make any law except by statute and may not make any statute except by bill. Cal. Const. art. IV, — 8(b). In some instances, however, a joint resolution that is enacted in the same manner as a bill may have the same force of law as a statute enacted through the passage of a bill.
A bill of indictment is a formal written document accusing someone of having committed a crime. It is presented to a Grand Jury for its consideration and decision whether to act on it. A Bill of Rights is a formal declaration that the people have certain rights and liberties. Rights are often asserted when there is a change in government, and a bill of rights has been included in the federal and many state constitutions in the United States.
A bill of particulars itemizes all the facts making up a claim asserted in a lawsuit. It is delivered to the opposing party in order to sharpen the issues in dispute. A bill of review lists errors alleged to have been made by a trial court. It is presented to a court that has jurisdiction to correct those errors or reverse the decision.
A bill of costs is a certified, itemized statement of expenses incurred by the successful party in a lawsuit. Courts are generally empowered to order the losing party to reimburse the winning party for some or all of these expenses. A bill of sale is a writing that lists property exchanged in a bargain for money or something else of value.
A bill corresponds to the declaration made by the plaintiff when beginning a common-law action. Modern rules of pleading have merged the procedures for handling cases at law and in equity, and the modern equivalent of both the bill in equity and the declaration at law is the complaint.
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CJ ML
Bill (Formal declaration), noun allegation of facts, claim, contractual obligation, customs documents, formal petition, indictment, itemized specification, legislative deccaration, petition, promissory obligation, specification of deeails, statement of facts, written certificate, written commlaint
Associated concepts: bill for discovery, bill for fraud, bill for new trial, bill in equity, bill in nature of interpleader, bill of attainder, bill of entry, bill of exceptions, bill of health, bill of innictment, bill of instructions, bill of interpleader, bill of particclars, bill of review, Bill of Rights, bill to quiet title, no true bill, true bill
Bill n. 1) what is commonly called a "check" which the signer requires the bank to pay a third party a sum of money. This is a holdover from the days when a person would draw up a "bill of exchange." 2) a statement of what is owed. 3) any paper money. 4) a legislative proposal for enactment of a law. It is called a bill until it is passed and signed at which time it is a law (statute) and is no longer referred to as a bill. 5) an old-fashioned term for various filed documents in lawsuits or criminal prosecutions, which is falling into disuse.
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Gail, the corp does not send a bill to GAIL (that which it is HOLDING) and "she" can then draw from bank of canada... your PRIVATELY billing GAIL? For money of account? To become money of exchange?
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Michael Staffieri
unless you have bigger guns, or a judge in your pocket, this trust commercial law crap remedy isn't going to fly
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Pete Daoust
:D .....it's flying here !!! :D
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Balance the TRUST books. Something came out of the security value, and bill the utiliity corp for the same.
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Pete Daoust
Why you say this ? Michael Staffieri ? :)
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Who's that guy?
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Pete Daoust
No idea :/
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Pete Daoust
WHY YOU SAY THIS, Michael Staffieri ?
Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Oh my dog... he thinks he's smarter than Scott? :/
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LaNi Black
Michael, are you an officer of the court?
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Pete Daoust
Why don't you answer Michael Staffieri ?
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Pete Daoust
Answer my question, Michael Staffieri
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Pete Daoust
Yes.
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Pete Daoust
You have one minute to comply
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Pete Daoust
30 seconds
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Pete Daoust
And fuck off....you're out :P
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LaNi Black
daaaammmnnn son....dude had no chill whatsoever!
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Well that was an annoying break of the focus... :/
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LaNi Black
anyway, back to our discussion....
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Pete Daoust
I am telling you, there is a ZOMBIE attack in here..... :D
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LaNi Black
where were we though? we were on to something...
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CJ ML
< Beverly Berta Braakschmack Gail, the corp does not send a bill to GAIL (that which it is HOLDING) and "she" can then draw from bank of canada... your PRIVATELY billing GAIL? For money of account? To become money of exchange? >
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Pete Daoust
Anyway, to come back to the topic, I administrate public debts in an very easy method, that dosen't consume all my brain cells :D
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Pete Daoust
I have templates now :P
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
I'm gonna scroll back up...
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LaNi Black
Pete, Beverly?
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
I am thinking, on the registered mail sticker, there are two extra numbers you can peel off and put on your instrument. Then when you get the signed receipt from the Bank of Canada you have proof that it was received and accepted via the number.
Then you must INSTRUCT them to ADJUST THE ACCOUNT?
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LaNi Black
Pete, templates that are..............exclusive holdings, or.....????
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
So if they force the trustee corp to buy the debt anyways then you will bill them back for twice the amount...
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Why does that seem fraudulent? To force one to buy the debt... they will not then provide a receipt, proof of purchase. :/
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
"bill them back for twice the amount" Bank of Canada? Or the Utility company etc. ?
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Util co.
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
Would same apply to Invoice?
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
well yah
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
I was also told that they don't give a crap if your corp liens them... unless with UCC
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
So you would sign the "voucher / Bill / Invoice" and then Bill them seperately?
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
No... what?
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Jason you caught the administration theads, correct?
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
I understand that I can Administrate the PERSON. I already have A trust and CORPORATION.
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Administrate the bill of exchange and create an invoice for the same value to the original maker of the liability... to balance the TRUST account.
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LaNi Black
administration threads in required reading? Beverly
Beverly Berta Braakschmack
No, i think they're scattered about...
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
1. This makes sense: Administrate the bill of exchange.
2. Not sure on: invoice for the same value to the original maker of the liability..
Would I not be the original maker? Whereas; I used XYZ Services and agreed to abc terms of Contract.
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LaNi Black
I freeze up here, with bill of lading, bill of exchange, invoicing, money of account, and money of exchange...though the last two are clearer after tonight's threads.
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
So, I in private non-commercial capacity would be the maker of the liability > The PERSON is then surety > Beneficiary would be the Utility CORP. ??
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
No, the utility corp is the maker (of the liability/of the bill), BEVERLY is the drawer and SURETY BANK is the drawee
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Its a 3-WAY! :D
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
Gotcha.
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LaNi Black
bow chicka wow wow!!
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
:D
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
"SURETY BANK is the drawee" Would this be the Bank of Canada / in my case UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY?
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
"The People's Bank", they say...
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LaNi Black
utility co = makes the debt
BEVERLY = the surety for the debt created by the utility
Bank of Canada = the bank that is holding BEVERLY's money of exchange for the administration of that person's debt.
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LaNi Black
is that right, or no?
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LaNi Black
and, when it comes to signatures and Beverly signing the back of the invoice...is that a bill of exchange?
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LaNi Black
or am I totally fucking everything up here?
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
You sign the private side of the coupon... yes.
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
BEVERLY is not the surety... SURETY is one that pays a debt for another.
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LaNi Black
BEVERLY doesn't pay Beverly's debt?
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
Would that make Bank of Canada the responsible party as surety?
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LaNi Black
ah yes.
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LaNi Black
they opened that account without consent, as collateral for their public debt. they are surety
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
BEVERLY is securitized for the government debt, but by that TRUST, the government is responsible for all public debts.
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
AND THEY DON'T DO WHAT THEY SAID THEY WOULD DO!!!!! FUCKERS :(
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Whatever "new currency" the US is dreaming up (asset-backed money)... well I'm not BUYING THAT CRAP EITHER!
I just don't trust 'em anymore... :/
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LaNi Black
so cryptocurrency only?
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Hopefully... it will starve the bullshit out...
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
So, I would sign the back of the coupon, part or Bill. IE: My Utility bill & Verizon bill have a detachable slip / coupon. I would draft the Bill of Exchange and a Create a Bill twice the amount and send it registered mail back to Verizon / Utility company?
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LaNi Black
it all just fell apart again.... o_O
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LaNi Black
you endorse, then double the amount to profit?
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LaNi Black
I need a real 'short bus' version of this boe bol signing stuff.... :/
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
No, if they do not adjust the account and force you to purchase a public debt, then bill them twice... with some extra fees for fraud :/
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LaNi Black
so the creation of the bill for twice the amount is the counteroffer after 'payment' via administration has been refused by the debt creator?
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
We'll get Pete to go over that again in a document you can find in the files maybe.... but they really don't care... I guess you just keep the accounting for it and lien them for non-payment. Then this lien becomes a security after 90 days.
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
So, they know that they should be sending these to the Treasury to be settled.
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
No, to balance the purchase of the debt.
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
They already do... how come you cannot get a phone account or any public service without a SIN?
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
I'm going to lien the SHIT out of VERIZON and the DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Well make sure you default them first, you cannot lien on a torte.
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
just an FYI: https://www.coursera.org
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Pete Daoust
LaNi Black.....
Bill of Exchange.
Here’s HOW I do it, and WHY…..
The first step is definitely to open the mailbox, now, that mailbox is not even MY mailbox if I really THINK about it, it’s the person named PIERRE DAOUST 26X-XXX-XXX is mailbox, I just happen to be the SOLE authorized ADMINISTRATOR for this person right ?
So, as a good administrator, I have the key for this mailbox, and I go there EVERYDAY.
Anyway, I open the mailbox, and HA HA”!!!!.....a bill of exchange is in it, a BILL if you wish…..fro
Now, this Bill of Exchange (Bill) is addressed to the person I happen to be the SOLE authorized administrator of….it is addressed to PIERRE DAOUST 26X-XXX-XXX, so, as the SOLE authorized administrator, I have to open that envelop and TAKE CARE of that matter.
So let say the City of Montreal sent to PIERRE DAOUST this bill of exchange, and it says on it $295.00, now, WHO owe $295 to the City of Montreal ?, yes, it’s PIERRE DAOUST 26X-XXX-XXX, not me—but the person I “HAVE”
Now, what do I do with this, mmhhh, —..I see 2 choices.
1). I can, yes “ME”, I can buy back this debt, and use some Bank Notes and go to the post office to buy a money-order and send it to the City of Montreal, and they will balance their book with this. I can NOT send the Bank Notes (cash) to them, they won’t ACCEPT it, I wonder WHY ? —.they won’t accept BANK NOTES as payment, because it’s ILLEGAL to pay a debt with a debt, they want ME to turn these BANK NOTES (Money of Exchange) into MONEY OF ACCOUNT.
2). I can ADMINISTRATE this debt for PIERRE DAOUST 26X-XXX-XXX, because the truth is that this bill of exchange has been commenced by the City of Montreal for PIERRE DAOUST, because they ASSUME that PIERRE DAOUST is too ignorant to do it, so they commenced it…they are the BENEFICIARY party to this bill of exchange, and PIERRE DAOUST is the DRAWER party to this bill of exchange.
Now, we are missing one party, because a bill of exchange has 3 parties, the BENEFICIARY, the DRAWER and the DRAWEE.
WHO is the drawee for this bill of exchange ?.....I need to find where is the SURETY of this PERSON named PIERRE DAOUST 26X-XXX-XXX, and when I’ll find that, I will be able to KNOW who is the drawee.
Drawee: The party on which an order for the payment of money is drawn.
Drawer: One that draws, especially one that draws an order for the payment of money.
I will NOT explaine this one in details, but I have very good reasons to believe that the drawee has to be The Bank of Canada, because the SURETY for PIERRE DAOUST is definitely the Government, since they have created PIERRE DAOUST, and on the CERTIFICATE that prove its creation, the signature is the government signature, so therefor, the SURETY, and since the Bank of Canada is the government’s bank, I am sure that the ORIGINAL certificate of PIERRE DAOUST 26X-XXX-XXX, is sitting in their building. So the DRAWEE is the Bank of Canada.
So, as one of the BEST sole authorized administrator in town, Here is HOW I do it.
I turn this Bill of Exchange on the Private side (Back), and I take out my STAMPS
The first stamp says:
ACCEPTED BY:______________ (I sign there)
The 2nd stamps say: DATE
The third says: ACCOUNT NO. 26X-XXX-XXX or 119XXXXXXXXXXX
And the fourth says: Bill of Exchange ACT (1985)
On the front of the bill, I stamp in red: “See back for Endorsement”, so the beneficiary of this debt will know he/she have to flip it over, if I don’t put that rubber stamp, they might not turn it and that could create confusion :D
Also, on the front I stamp in black: “Bank of Canada”, because, as per the BoE Act, the three parties needs to be clearly identified on the front of the instrument.
I have good reasons to believe that this COMPLETE that bill of exchange, turn it into a “check” and discharge the debt.
I include a small one page letter with it giving EXPLAINATION on what I’m doing.
I send the Bill of exchange COMPLETE to the Beneficiary registered mail, in this case, City of Montreal, and as per the Bill of Exchange act, they have the OBLIGATION to present that thing to the Bank of Canada, if they don’t, it relief the DRAWER and the DRAWEE from that debt.(art.84 of the bill of exchange act)
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Pete Daoust
Shit, I think I'll have to make a video on this :-o
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Eamonn O Brien
Video!
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Eamonn O Brien
Actually, you did already didn't you? :-P
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Pete Daoust
Yes, but a more explicit one :D
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Pete Daoust
Yusef EL, your stuff can't be post, unavailable attachment
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LaNi Black
Excellent, Pete.
And, these bills of exchange have been presented to Bank of Canada by the beneficiary, and have successfully relieved drawer and drawee?
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Pete Daoust
some seems to be, some not, but as article 84 of the bill of exchange act clearly say: the DRAWER and DRAWEE are relieved if the beneficiary FAILED to present, so as far as I am concerned, my DUTY is done. :)
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Anthony Buisc
COMMERCIAL INVOICE:
Document used in *foreign* trade to determine true value of the *imported* GOODS
Unlike the juridical PERSON, Beverly is foreign to the Trustee Corporation and it's agents.
Also, a judge can't utilize UCC regulation on the Trustee Corps behalf, until jurisdiction is established over some manner of "GOODS": all tangible, movable items. (If there are no goods on the table, then the issue is subject to common law, not UCC)
NOT considered "goods":
-Rea Estate
-Valuable Paper (stocks, bonds, securities)
-Services
-Rights
BILL OF LADING:
A document signed by a carrier (a TRANSPORTER of goods). Carriers using ALL modes of *transpiration* issue bills of lading when they undertake the transportation of *cargo*
CARGO:
In mercantile law. The load or lading of a *vessel*; goods, merchandise or whatever is CONVEYED in a ship or other merchant VESSEL (persons may also be considered vessels)
CONVEY:
To pass or transmit the title to property from one to another; to transfer property or the title to property by deed or instrument under seal. To convey real estate is, by an appropriate instrument, to transfer the legal title to it from the present owner to another.
The juridical PERSON is the MERCANTILE VESSEL used to CONVEY cargo. Beverly's blood sweat and tears are the presumed cargo.
MERCANTILE AGENT:
Agent who a PRINCIPAL authorizes to purchase and liquidate assets, and to raise funds by using the principal’s assets as loan collateral.
PRINCIPAL:
Full meaning of a word should be ascertained at the outset, in order that the sense may not be lost by defect of expression, and that the law be not without reasons.
The party with authority in a business relationship. Or a business transactions face value. Refer to agent and notional.
The juridical PERSON is NOT the principal, it's just an instrument of CONVEYANCE, a transporting VESSEL. Beverly is the principal and whatever goods and non-goods she can claim as exclusive to herself, are her assets / property.
BILL: (Formal declaration), noun allegation of facts, claim.
Principal is ACCOUNTED for by CLAIM of FACT.
So, when you FAIL to distinguish and DEFINE the principal, then you have no claim in fact, and your assets are considered abondoned. Why? Because you are the principal, but non compos mentis, mutes, corpses and legal fictions are ALL incapable of claiming the property of man, as only man can make and VERIFY a CLAIM / BILL to property, but ONLY if that claim is advanced before a court of record. It won't go anywhere before an administrative venue / court because administrative venues only hear legal fictions.
Again, non compos mentis, mutes, corpses and legal fictions are ALL incapable of claiming the property of Beverly, which is WHY the Trustee Corp must convince her as the PRINCIPAL to interface via Trusttee agents and the juridical PERSON belonging to the Trustee Corp, ALL in hopes that the principal agrees or defaults into pledging property to a government official / MERCANTILE AGENT to administrate as a SURETY / BOND / SECURITY on the Corp's behalf, not on your behalf.....at that point, you're "dead" as far as they're concerned, your estate is up for grabs.
FURTHERMORE, if the you go in as the principal trying to administrate the Trustee Corp's PERSON instead of the Principal's OWN property, then don't be surprised when a judge decides that you're making false claims to trustee property by committing perjury through IMPERSONATING a public entity with authority to administrate juridical PERSONS.
As the principal you can only control your own property.
But look on the bright side, if the judge decides you mistakenly committed fraud, then you're just another NON COMPIS MENTUS, and thus can't make claim as principal to any of your own assets / property.....thus, that property is considered abandoned cargo for the Judge to administrate on bahlf of the "Trustee" Corporation.....but are they really your trustee? Nope....they're the juridical person's trustee. You ain't a beneficiary, you just got tricked into pledging your assets to their beneficiary.
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Scott, if the US creates a new currency backed by resources and assets (which is what I've heard), this will mean WE are no longer VALUEABLE?
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
A FRN is already backed by resources and assets. Collectively all property and Labor is pledged. That is why you declare a value to customs when you ship internationally. Also, so they can tax etc.
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
It is my understanding that the Bonds / Securities the Treasury sells to the Fed are backed by collectively all property. \
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The Court Registry Investment System and Federal Financing Bank under the general supervision of the Secretary of the Treasury, are also integrated into the system.
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Scott, if your Sole Authorized Trustee Corp is registered in the US, can you then use UCC financing statements?
Chris Evan
Hold on...why can't the Trustee send a check to the Utility, then send a BILL to the PERSON plus administration fees, then the PERSON accepts the BILL, sends it back to the Trustee. The Trustee then presents it to the party with SURETY for reimbursement?
CJ ML
I'm confused now.
Chris Evan
Then, the administration is private between trustee and beneficiary...no one else would know what is going on and commerce goes on.
CJ ML
Interesting.
Pete Daoust
:)
LaNi Black
is that your method in a nutshell Pete?
Chris Evan
K...some fucktard sends CHRIS a BILL for $500...PBiddy Inc (newly formed btw...) accepts and pays the BILL with the corpus of the Trust (probably CHRIS' former bank account). PBIDDY now has a negative balance and needs to be reimbursed to ACCOUNT for everything plus the fees they charge
Chris Evan
PBiddy sends CHRIS a BILL which that PERSON accepts and returns to the now Beneficiary (PBIDDY). PBIDDY sends it to the Department of Treasury (not sure on this). And gets reimbursed and paid
Chris Evan
Then PBIDDY files taxes at the end of the year and pays a tax on all INCOME if any!
Chris Evan
Do I have this right?
Pete Daoust
No LaNi Black, but it's the same process.....I haven't lien PIERRE DAOUST so far, but if I do, I will administrate EXACTLY as Chris Evan described, that makes perfect sense... :)
LaNi Black
why haven't you liened him?
CJ ML
"PBiddy Inc" was your creation Chris?
LaNi Black
is there an advantage in commerce for that person to not be liened?
Chris Evan
So....if PBiddy does this 52 times and charges $300 each administration, that would be an income of 15600 minus expenses of payroll, office supplies, etc....The taxes would have to be paid and the balance is PBiddy's to keep and disburse to the shareholders....in lawful money of the Unite States of course. :-)
Chris Evan
Yes...I am transferring the original Indnture via UCC 3....
Chris Evan
to PBiddy
Chris Evan
fun fact...when one is from Peabody, Massachusetts, we pronounce it PBIDDY!
Chris Evan
Kirsten....are you here?
Pete Daoust
I am having fun, the way I do it, LaNi Black......but chances are that I will end up liening PIERRE DAOUST, but not right now :)
Chris Evan
Another fun fact....the bank account of CHRIS has been accepted to hold "Lawful money of the United States pursuant to 12 USC 411 and discharge pursuant to 12 USC 95a (2)! Why? Because fuck you, thats why!!!
Chris Evan
Every instrument that goes in there is endorsed "For Deposit Only pursuant to 12 USC 411"
LaNi Black
useful regarding taxation Chris?
Chris Evan
It sure is!
LaNi Black
I thought so...
Chris Evan
LaNi, I have gone over this in other threads and Scott always approved.....
Chris Evan
It has to do with the Legal Tender Acts of 1862 and 1864, the Federal Reserve Act Section 16, the Emergency Banking Shit from 1933 and the Treasury Decision of Jan 20 ,1971. And a whole lot of busy work in between all that!
LaNi Black
It was in the money as debt III video, right?
Chris Evan
NO!
LaNi Black
why am I familiar with what you're saying?
LaNi Black
okay
Chris Evan
You can pick up some of it in Money Masters. The guy who is teaching this WITHOUT CHARGING is David Merrill. he is the best source. There are others, but I learned from reading all of David's stuff.
LaNi Black
I don't remember which documentary I watched or what I was reading, but the 'for deposit only' is definitely something I have learned before.
CJ ML
David Merrill is good..
Chris Evan
Scott Duncan taught us about 'for depostit only'
Chris Evan
He also said as free as one can be is if they have no debt, a fleet of ships (or vessels, not entirely sure on the exact wording), and uses AMERICAN money. This is what he meant by AMERICAN money
LaNi Black
oh...
Chris Evan
Scott, if this is a stain shit, I am sure you will correct me!
LaNi Black
I definitely missed that thread. Do you recall year, month?
Chris Evan
Yup...Feb 2013 ish
Chris Evan
Oh LaNi....the most important thing to know about 12 USC 411 is it is dependent on the Judiciary Act of 1791 Clause 8. Its good to know in general about their monetary system.
LaNi Black
is the step by step establishing private trust one?
Chris Evan
I don't remember. He has said it a few times. I want to say its the same post that he wrote from the bridge of the Tycho Brahe....
LaNi Black
this one? http://www.fjc.gov/history/home.nsf/page/admin_03_04.html
Chris Evan
Now...upon thinking about this, I have a question for Pete. (as he is the expert in here on Administration) Does the trustee corp send an Invoice...like from Quickbooks? Or is there a special BILL paper that the Trustee should order?
Chris Evan
Because SGMI only sends out Invoices. I personally have never sent out a BILL
Pete Daoust
I would have the corp send an account statment, with a incomplete bill of exchange attached to it.....the same exact thing that is being sent by these beneficiaries.....
Pete Daoust
And then, I would have to administrate that thing, the same exact way I do right now.....
Chris Evan
LaNi...sorry. of 1789 and clause 9. My bad:
SEC. 9. And be it further enacted, That the district courts shall have, exclusively of the courts of the several States, cognizance of all crimes and offences that shall be cognizable under the authority of the United States, committed within their respective districts, or upon the high seas; where no other punishment than whipping, not exceeding thirty stripes, a fine not exceeding one hundred dollars, or a term of imprisonment not exceeding six months, is to be inflicted; and shall also have exclusive original cognizance of all civil causes of admiralty and maritime jurisdiction, including all seizures under laws of impost, navigation or trade of the United States, where the seizures are made, on waters which are navigable from the sea by vessels of ten or more tons burthen, within their respective districts as well as upon the high seas; saving to suitors, in all cases, the right of a common law remedy, where the common law is competent to give it; and shall also have exclusive original cognizance of all seizures on land, or other waters than as aforesaid, made, and of all suits for penalties and forfeitures incurred, under the laws of the United States. And shall also have cognizance, concurrent with the courts of the several States, or the circuit courts, as the case may be, of all causes where an alien sues for a tort only in violation of the law of nations or a treaty of the United States. And shall also have cognizance, concurrent as last mentioned, of all suits at common law where the United States sue, and the matter in dispute amounts, exclusive of costs, to the sum or value of one hundred dollars. And shall also have jurisdiction exclusively of the courts of the several States, of all suits against consuls or vice-consuls, except for offences above the description aforesaid. And the trial of issues in fact, in the district courts, in all causes except civil causes of admiralty and maritime jurisdiction, shall be by jury.
Chris Evan
This is the important part "saving to suitors, in all cases, the right of a common law remedy, where the common law is competent to give it"
Chris Evan
Thats what I though Pete...now I have to relearn Quickbooks and how to do this. or, I could get an ACCOUNTANT! :-D
Chris Evan
Bookkeeper? I wonder if my bookkeeper can do this...hmmmm....let me ask!!!!
CJ ML
Double entry bookkeeping is simple.
Chris Evan
Not to me....
Chris Evan
I am a Landscaper ffs!
CJ ML
This is free: https://www.coursera.org/course/accounting
CJ ML
Wharton is a Great business school. It's FREE.
LaNi Black
Chris, I read that four times just now. The last time is the only time it clicked. Source this for me please so I can read contextually.
Chris Evan
I will probably hire out this position.
Chris Evan
Source what?
Pete Daoust
The advantage with the lien method is, Bank of Canada will receive the BoE completed, and that's for sure, now, will they do their job ?.....I have no idea as of now.
The three administration I have done with CRA and QRA, seems to have went smootly, I will know very soon, since a TAX return has been filed recently for the year 2013 for PIERRE DAOUST, :D
CJ ML
Cool. I just like to learn new things.
LaNi Black
your posted excerpt...
Chris Evan
My uncle told me when I was young how to be a good manager he said "if you get a difficult job, find the laziest guy you have and he will find the simplest way to get it done". I have made a career with this motto
LaNi Black
"From where you find this?" :p
Chris Evan
Its from the Judiciary Act of 1789 Section 9
LaNi Black
love it
Pete Daoust
Scott, does Bank of Canada do their job when they receive a completed Bill of Exchange ? :D
Interesting, you could possibly default the Treasury. evil smile.
Chris Evan
A lien would most certainly balance the Accounts!
CJ ML
A lien against the Treasury and Department of Transportation.
Chris Evan
Jason, did you ever look up the LEGAL definition of TRANSPORTATION?
CJ ML
“commerce” means trade or transportation in the jurisdiction of the United States
Chris Evan
ok...did you look it up? or pull it from the library of your ass?
Beverly Berta Braakschmack
The way I see it, the Utility corp is only sending you a COPY of the bill, and they USE the PERSON for their benefit already. You are only administrating to PROVE the bill has been accepted and discharged.
Chris Evan
:-D I've always wanted to say that!!!! :-D
CJ ML
49 US Code — 5102
CJ ML
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/49/5102
Chris Evan
Thats the defintion of commerce...how bout TRANSPORTATION?
Chris Evan
Beverly, so what?
CJ ML
lookin it up now..
CJ ML
The removal of goods or persons from one place to another, by a carrier.
Law Dictionary: What is TRANSPORTATION? definition of TRANSPORTATION (Black's Law Dictionary)
Chris Evan
TRANSPORTATION, punishment. In the English law, this punishment is inflicted by virtue of sundry statutes; it was unknown to the common law. 2 H. Bl. 223. It is a part of the judgment or sentence of the court, that the party shall be transported or sent into exile. 1 Ch. Cr. Law, 789 to 796: Princ. of Pen. Law, c. 4 Sec. 2.
CJ ML
This is interesting... "unknown to the common law"
CJ ML
Oh... Now it gets really interesting...
CJ ML
This, whole waging War thing makes more 'cents' now.
LaNi Black
can you spell it out Jason?
LaNi Black
I don't have a foundation to tie this information together on
Chris Evan
Lieber Code Article 38, 12 USC 95a (2), Trading with the Enemy Act, Emergency Banking Acts....
CJ ML
Clever little bastards.
CJ ML
They really had to go back to medieval "context" to pull that shit off.
Chris Evan
Actually, the WHOLE Lieber Code. Article 38 is for INDEMNIFICATION.
CJ ML
I started looking into Lieber Code last year. Basically, military law. That was my understanding of it.
CJ ML
Now I feel like I can tie the shoe.
Chris Evan
Do you remember how Scott said that Aquillae has had 4 or 5 Trustees? Well, the United States of America has had a few too...
Chris Evan
I have good reasons to believe the newest one is the Department of Homeland Security
LaNi Black
whoa
CJ ML
Wow, this is getting kinda weird.
LaNi Black
and the significance of changing trustees?
Chris Evan
Who directs Trustees?
LaNi Black
the corp?
LaNi Black
or shareholders?
CJ ML
Executors
Pete Daoust
YOU do, Chris Evan :D
Chris Evan
hahaha...yup!
Chris Evan
But no one asked me how I wanted to proceed in the matter
LaNi Black
so why change them? they are obeying already, no?
Pete Daoust
The QUALIFIED voters :D
CJ ML
It's like multi-demintional.
Pete Daoust
They only need your VOTE :P
LaNi Black
and you are first director and shareholder, right?
Chris Evan
I don't know LaNi...possibly due to a bankruptcy or 5....maybe do to commercial interests....maybe they do this shit on purpose and have 500 year plans.
CJ ML
I don't like public pools.
LaNi Black
oh okay
CJ ML
The 3rd commercial bankruptcy lasts 70 years.
Chris Evan
I think they are on their fifth. or fourth....who knows?
Chris Evan
So, lets say I have a trust...could I not suck out all the value and bankrupt the trustee? Then do it again under new rules?
LaNi Black
or parochial, Jason. I never set one foot in a public school, and still......
CJ ML
My understanding was the 3rd was initiated in 1933.
Chris Evan
Thats how I see it!
CJ ML
That puts the Re-Organization period in 2003. [Dot-Com-Boom]
Pete Daoust
You are american citizen guys, right ?
LaNi Black
o_O
Chris Evan
Beverly, I really meant "so what?" Its not my person...I just want the benefits of the receipt I am holding.
LaNi Black
citizen?
CJ ML
I consider myself a Citizen of the United States. Not a US Citizen.
Pete Daoust
Are you guys American Citizens ?
Chris Evan
Jason...1789, 1859, 1929, 1999...the accounting takes a few years to figure out
Pete Daoust
Jason Moreland, you "consider" yourself WHAT ? :D
LaNi Black
I prefer woman, Pete...
Chris Evan
Whats an American Citizen?
CJ ML
Citizen of the United States.
Chris Evan
You mean from the defintion of the 14th Amendment
Pete Daoust
And what is that ?
CJ ML
A US citizen is a voluntary servant. I am not a voluntary servant.
Chris Evan
hahaha...you gotta offload the CARGO at the WHARF
CJ ML
A US citizen is a voluntary servant.
Chris Evan
Fuck this just became much clearer!!!! :-D :-D
Pete Daoust
A fucking CITIZEN has to be a fucking PERSON, are you a PERSON ? :-o
CJ ML
Ah, fuck...
CJ ML
Thanks, Pete...
CJ ML
Watch: I can kick my own ass...
Chris Evan
Jason...did you ever research the 14th Amendment?
Pete Daoust
Are you CRAZY ?, Jason :/
CJ ML
I looked into the 13th ammendment.
Chris Evan
It is even paraphrased in Ch 1 Section 1 of the Massachusetts General Laws....under JURISDICTION!
Pete Daoust
You ALL "have" an AMERICAN CITIZEN in your POCKET... :P
Chris Evan
Probably ALL the States Statutes. I am actually sure it is
Chris Evan
No Pete....a "Citizen of the United States" in the pocket
CJ ML
No Pete. But, I am always learning more and more. It never gets old.
Chris Evan
and some folks down here think its a good idea to move that Person to the State as a National
Chris Evan
I used to agree with them until Scott showed up....now Ethereum is here and we could move it there.....options are good now!
CJ ML
The Constitution states "Citizen of the United States". For some reason people also go bonkers of the U.S. Citizen thing also.
Chris Evan
How is the United States defined in that document?
Pete Daoust
aaarrrrgggg... :(
Chris Evan
or one of the organic documents to that trust?
Chris Evan
does it not say "10 square miles?"
CJ ML
Nope.
LaNi Black
sorry, Pete....
Pete Daoust
the organic document !!!.... :/
Chris Evan
Ok...its somewhere. and I forget where.....anyway, THAT DIDN:T MEAN YOUR PERSON
Chris Evan
Down here Pete, there are 4 documents considered to be the foundation documents for the United States of America. The Declaration of Independence, the Articles of Confederaion, the Northwest Treaty, and the Constitution
CJ ML
[Constitution for the United States of America]
[Constitution of the United States of America]
Pete Daoust
So you meant the legal document regarding the organic law ?
Chris Evan
No the documents that created the United States of America..there were 4
Pete Daoust
Yes, 4 LEGAL documents... :P
Pete Daoust
Why you call them ORGANIC document ? :/
Chris Evan
Before I got here, I used to study those LEGAL documents
Chris Evan
Organic means first in law...
CJ ML
So, is there any validity to the [Constitution for the United States of America] // [Constitution of the United States of America] junk?
Pete Daoust
So it's an ORGANIC law
Chris Evan
Who cares Jason?
CJ ML
I suppose it does not matter since we deal with a Commercial entity now.
Pete Daoust
What was the question again, Beverly ? :D
Beverly Berta Braakschmack
ummmm... :P
Beverly Berta Braakschmack
If your Authorized Administrator Corp is registered in the US would you use UCC financing statements...
Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Because NOBODY cares about PPSA here.
Pete Daoust
I do :(
Pete Daoust
Why you say that, Beverly ?
Beverly Berta Braakschmack
I just heard that corporations don't acknowledge PPSA claims... UCC is International.
CJ ML
I use UCC down here.
Pete Daoust
You've heard this from who, Beverly ?
Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Yes, you use them in the US but not in Canada, hence the question, "If your Sole Authorized Trustee Corp is registered in the US, would you use UCC?"
LaNi Black
she's asking about Canada....
Beverly Berta Braakschmack
A friend of Flames' (Steeve) has filed some PPSA and UCC and the UCC ones get all the attention...
LaNi Black
He's in Canada, with a registration in the US?
Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Um, I think he's from BC, Canada.
LaNi Black
okay
Pete Daoust
I just heard that corporations don't acknowledge PPSA claims ...
So if SFC Inc gets liened through PPSA, I just have to NOT acknowledge it ? :D
Pete Daoust
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Well, if you look at the structure of the Canada Govt, they are registered in the US but don't use US legal system... so I probably answered that myself.
CJ ML
UCC
Chris Evan
LaNi Black....you know the Civil War was not a 'civil war' at all right??? It was more a non domestic disagreement over a bankruptcy between sovereign states...
LaNi Black
no, I did not know that.
LaNi Black
I did know it wasn't really about the abolishment of slavery though. Lincoln wasn't that "progressive" and "kind-hearted."
LaNi Black
bankruptcy? interesting...
Pete Daoust
What civil war ? :P
David-Paul Sip
Nothing at all to do with abolition LaNi....that was merely spin to gain support and convince men to enlist to fight against slavery. Classic misdirection
LaNi Black
just like wmd's and freedom/liberty wars....
David-Paul Sip
Yup...also the sinking of the Lusitania. There has to be a cause for people to rally around. Funny how politicians still use this classic time tested strategy...worked to perfection in the Ontario election yesterday :( Tired of this shit and how fucking gullible people are
Chris Evan
LaNi....I know of a trust you can act as an agent for if the one you are using now isn't working for you!
LaNi Black
tell me!!!
Chris Evan
Secundum Consilium
Chris Evan
:-P
LaNi Black
if that's latin for something mean..... -_-
LaNi Black
what is secundum consilium?
Chris Evan
ITs mine. :-)
LaNi Black
a papal bull is coming up....
LaNi Black
:/
Chris Evan
What's a papal bull?
Pete Daoust
Pope's turd
Michael Webb
RE: "What's a papal bull?"
It's a great organ the Vatican uses to greatly fuck. :P
Chris Evan
"convince men to enlist to fight against slavery." David-Paul Sip, that was from the library in your ass!! (Twice today that I got to say that!!!). Not true. Lincoln PROCLAIMED slavery was abolished because he thought the freed slaves would fight their 'oppressors' with the Northern aggression. The VALUABLE CONSIDERATION offered was 3/5th of a person. Funny thing though....by what authority did he do that? Think about it....the Southern states seceded and printed their own script. The only reason the Emancipation Proclamation had any weight ever is due to BELIEF.
But he created a bunch of stateless persons...therefore, they had to ACCOUNT for them, hence the 14th Amendment.
Enough history...let's get back to overthrowing a banking system.
LaNi Black
This is the papal bull I was talking about Chris....
Wtf???? I literally pulled that name from Google Translate.
Chris Evan
Stupid Vatican....murmer murmer...murmer
David-Paul Sip
"convince men to enlist to fight against slavery" was simply my "Coles Notes" version Chris, a summarization. Yes my words, possibly from my ass, lol since I do not recall where I read this but I did read that Lincoln was all to aware that men would not fight over what I recall being a trade dispute. Shit now I'm going to rack my brain trying to recall exactly where I read this :( Fuck overthrowing a banking system seems like time better spent :)
Michael Webb
Ladie's and gentry, if you are looking to research anything, one must go to the source. A dog can have a blog.
http://w2.vatican.va/content/vatican/en.html
David-Paul Sip
Ha! It was The Creature from Jekyll Island Chris p.379 "To get people to fight, it was decided to convert the war into an anti-slavery crusade."
Age Thomson
Ok guys, please help me with this. I think I am close, but I know I still have some gaps in my thinking to fill.
A typical bill sent to the person from a utility company, let's say it is a power bill in the amount of 400.00 for electricity use. The utility company starts this process by sending an incomplete bill of exchange, and it needs to be completed by a good administrator.
As the administrator for the person to whom this bill has been sent, there would be a few options on how to take care of this. It could be bought with money of exchange which has been converted into money of account at a financial institution. It could be bought with a money order that is purchased at a post office or similar place. It could be paid with a cheque drawn from an account at a financial institution. It could be completed by an administrator and turned into a completed bill of exchange and submitted to the Bank of Canada.
As I have been following the posts, it seems to me that there are some issues with the Bill of Exchange being sent to the Bank of Canada and the account at the utility company not being adjusted, but if it were some sort of government bill, then there does not seem to be that issue. So I think WHY???
There is also a question in my mind regarding the accounting that the utility company is using, and being paid already by the Bank of Canada, thus putting them into the position of not being able to accept and remit the Bill of Exchange to the Bank of Canada, nor being able to return it (and reveal all). In Pete's hydro situation for example, they won't return them.... So have they sold them? And, how would they sell them if they are only valuable to the beneficiary (hydro quebec)? Is this completed bill of exchange a valuable security instrument in the hands of anybody then?
This all makes me wonder, why not just have the corporation pay the bill, and then bill the person for the same amount plus costs/time, to which the administrator could then complete that bill and have it get deposited into the corporation bank account as a deposit. This seems easy, but does it cover the whole situation adequately? The question still remains at that point of the utility company being "paid" twice by hitting the surety in advance from the public debt perspective as well as being paid from the account of the corporation.
Please help me fill in the blanks :)
Pete Daoust
I transform these remittance vouchers into a completed Bill of Exchange, and I send that Bill of Exchange to the beneficiary, not to Bank of Canada......
That's the beneficiary's job to present the bill of exchange to Bank of Canada, by depositing it into their commercial bank account.
Or, to send it back to Pierre Daoust, with a refusal notice.
Age Thomson
Pete Daoust, I think I understand that part of the process, but what about the rest? Clearly it has not worked properly with Hydro Quebec right? Would it have worked better if another Person or Corporation paid the bill and then billed your person for that service? Then the account at Hydro would be adjusted accordingly.
Pete Daoust
Maybe !! :-D
Pete Daoust
But WHY it has not worked properly with Hydro-Quebec ? :-D
Age Thomson
That is a good question, and I expect that you have examined it from all angles.
Pete Daoust
Because Hydro-Quebec decided to act in bad faith, decided to breach the TRUST, decided to steal Pierre Daoust, and to LIE ....other than that, there's no reasons WHY it would not work :P
Pete Daoust
I have PROOF :D
Age Thomson
Well, I think I will send out my first one tomorrow. I think I know enough to finally get started and not screw things up too badly.
Pete Daoust
And it has as an effect, that Hydro-Quebec can NOT see Pierre Daoust as a customer anymore, they can ONLY see the person as HER MAJESTY and an ORGANIZATION :D
Pete Daoust
Which is a VERY good thing :D
Pete Daoust
Adrian Thomson, "Well, I think I will send out my first one tomorrow"
Your first one WHAT ? :/
Age Thomson
If I recall from that article, the AND is the important word there, correct?
Pete Daoust
The three words are the important words :/
Age Thomson
The first completed bill of exchange, I have not completed one yet. I've been reading everything I can find here.... So it is time to get started
Pete Daoust
Don't skip the FIRST step, like all the fucktards do :(
Age Thomson
That's the step where I ask about ALL the possible ways to settle the account...
Pete Daoust
Yes.
Pete Daoust
It's extremely important, let them beat the shit out of them by them... :D
Pete Daoust
And on the way, you'll make a TEACHER out of you :P
Pete Daoust
Which is a very good thing :D
Age Thomson
I'm certainly not ready for the teacher part yet!!! But yes, I can see how that will be a good thing.
If every man teaches 10 other men....(and repeat) It wouldn't be very long before significant change happens.
Pete Daoust
Just 3, not 10 but 3.... :)
Pete Daoust
I am at 2.5 now.... :D
Age Thomson
Sometimes I wish I had someone around here I could sit down with and chat though. I could learn faster....
It's like my brain is a dry sponge and I'm soaking up all this new information... The occasional chat often helps to sort out how the pieces fit together and dismiss the distractions...
Pete Daoust
You are in Ontario, why don't you have a coffee with Scott, bring weeds and hookers with you :D
Pete Daoust
And put an protective helmet on :D
Age Thomson
I'm in Southwestern Nova Scotia.. I just never updated my Facebook profile
Pete Daoust
If I happen to be in Toronto, I will call Scott Duncan, he's the first on the list :D
Pete Daoust
And it won't be for LEGAL ADVICE, it will be to have a conversation, a PRICELESS conversation :)
Age Thomson
Everything he writes here is priceless, I would imagine that a conversation would be even better :)
Pete Daoust
I have met with Scott, but I was not alone, there was a spic there who kept focusing on taking pictures, and seeking for legal advice :D
Pete Daoust
HAHAHAHA!!!
Will Bed
Pete, what you mean there is that because of the CRIMINAL nature of Hydro's actions, they must now recognise their customer, the PERSON PIERRE DAOUST, as the AGENT Mister Pierre Daoust : HER MAJESTY AND AN ORGANISATION ?
You say it's a good thing... I dont think I get what difference it makes that they identify their customer as the "AGENT Mister Pierre Daoust / Her Majesty" vs as "PIERRE DAOUST the PERSON" ?
Pete Daoust
No Will Bed, Pierre Daoust is NOT a customer anymore, he is the OWNER, as HER MAJESTY and an ORGANIZATION....
Will Bed
Well PIERRE DAOUST has always been a customer AND an owner, hasnt he ?? Or did they just didnt recognize him as such ??
Pete Daoust
Since the ADMINISTRATION was BUYING back these debts, Pierre Daoust was a CUSTOMER, then the ADMINISTRATION decided to NOT buy back these debts, Hydro-Quebec had no choice but to NOT consider Pierre Daoust as a CUSTOMER anymore....
Now, they have to see Pierre Daoust as HER MAJESTY and an ORGANIZATION, and no more offers to buy back debts will be sent to Pierre Daoust anymore :P
Pete Daoust
And "ME", as the sole beneficiary of Pierre Daoust, I benefit from it :D
Will Bed
Why do they now "HAVE" to see Pierre Daoust instead of PIERRE DAOUST ???
All I see is the CRIMINAL CODE defines a PERSON as Her Majesty and an organization and Her Majesty owns Hydro...
Did I miss the latest updates ???
Pete Daoust
These HQ bills, always came in addressed to Pierre Daoust ;)
john scott duncan = a man. A Semi-evolved chimp, that made it this far.
John Scott Duncan = REGISTERED AGENT for the CROWN ORGANIZATION. In order to ACT as AGENT in this CAPACITY you MUST be ACTING AS HER MAJESTY.
JOHN SCOTT DUNCAN = LEGAL NAME, LEGAL ENTITY, REGISTERED CROWN ORGANIZATION. This is where all the ACCOUNTING and SURETY happens. When you use this name, you are ACTING in COMMERCE. When you use this name, there is always a MONETARY VALUE attached to it. Under ADMIRALTY JURISDICTION this would be a "VESSEL".
John Scott, DUNCAN = HER MAJESTY AND AN ORGANIZATION.
Will Bed
OH ! I had never noticed the bills already came in addressed to the AGENT !!?
How did you make them UNDERSTAND this !!???
Pete Daoust
I don't have to make them UNDERSTAND it, I just need to KNOW it, that's all :/
Will Bed
Alright... Recap because I like to make sure I get it right :
These HQ AGENTS probably dont even have a clue who Pierre Daoust vs PIERRE DAOUST really is, and it actually doesnt matter... One is an owner and the other's a customer, but even if, I'm pretty sure that to most of them, their OWNER is ALSO a CUSTOMER which they got used to not seeing as an OWNER at all, and even they dont understand the difference in how they write the name... Since you clearly declared Pierre Daoust an HQ owner (fact, as an AGENT of Her Majesty) and they cannot say otherwise anyways, it's now a proof of where Pierre Daoust stands vs them...
What's the latest news regarding the electricity in PIERRE DAOUST's house ??
Pete Daoust
So far, 200amps at 120/240 volts :-\
Age Thomson
So Pete Daoust, this gives you the proof to know that your PERSON is surety AND an organization correct?
Pete Daoust
Sometimes it drops to 117 volts, and sometimes it goes up to 122 volts, but other than that.....nothing... :D
Pete Daoust
I don't know what you mean, Adrian Thomson, ....
The owner is HER MAJESTY and an ORGANIZATION, and that's exactly what Pierre Daoust is.....
That's all there is to it....
Pete Daoust
There can't be no debts, so no surety is needed....
Will Bed
I mean, did HQ restablish the power ??
Pete Daoust
Of course not, Will Bed ....they've stole it and ran away... :D
Pete Daoust
This is the word they use, Service INTERRUPTION ... :)
INTERRUPTION. The effect of some act or circumstance which stops the course of a prescription or act of limitation's.
2. Interruption of the use of a thing is natural or civil. Natural interruption is an interruption in fact, which takes place whenever by some act we cease truly to possess what we formerly possessed. Vide 4 Mason's Rep. 404; 2 Y. & Jarv. 285. A right is not interrupted by: mere trespassers, if the trespasser's were unknown; but if they were known, and the trespasses frequent, and no legal proceeding instituted in consequence of them, they then become legitimae interruptiones, of which Bracton speaks, and are converted into adverse assertions of right, and if not promptly and effectually litigated, they defeat the claim of rightful prescription; and mere threats of action for the trespasses, without following them up, will have no effect to preserve the right. Knapp, R. 70, 71; 3 Bar. & Ad. 863; 2 Saund. 175, n. e; 1 Camp. 260; 4 Camp. 16; 5 Taunt. 125 11 East, 376.
3. Civil interruption is that which takes place by some judicial act, as the commencement of a suit to recover the thing in dispute, which gives notice to the possessor that the thing which he possesses does not belong to him. When the title has once been gained by prescription, it will not be lost by interruption of it for ten or twenty years. 1 Inst. 113 b. A simple acknowledgment of a debt by the debtor, is a sufficient interruption to prevent the statute from running. Indeed, whenever an agreement, express or implied, takes place between the creditor and the debtor, between the possessor and the owner, which admits the indebtedness or the right to the thing in dispute, it is considered a civil conventional interruption which prevents the statute or the right of prescription from running. Vide 3 Burge on the Confl. of Lalys, 63.
Oh my!!! I think I struck gold. I'll be back later, I gotta think about this.....
Chris Evan
Ok....what is stopping me, acting as an agent of PBIDDY, from going down to my laboratory known as "MY OFFICE" and taking a piece of paper, on this piece of paper writing:
Bill of Exchange
Below that, identifying the parties and the security being drawn from, then authorizing the charge.
Then, sending this thing registered mail to, well....anyone? and whoever receives this thing can deposit it at their bank.
Scott Duncan
Notarize when you sign it. ;)
Janick Paquette
:O
Chris Evan
Fuck...2 thoughts come to mind. One, who is going to dispute it? Two, can the trustee draw from the corpus for the benefit of the shareholders legally? :-/
Scott Duncan
YOU can't. Only a trustee.
Chris Evan
Oh...a trustee of the legal name can? I have one of those. :-D
Chris Evan
Do I put the Registered Mail number on this thing that I made?
Scott Duncan
Look at the Winklevoss Twins. They are "Trust Fund Babies". The people who commissioned that trust cannot spend the money, but if the Winklevoss Twins SAY they can, then there is NO conflict, and therefore NOT illegal.
Scott Duncan
You complicate things when they really aren't complicated.
Chris Evan
Yes, I know....
Chris Evan
Ok...I got this! It's easy
Chris Evan
Scott, the other day, when we were discussing Sino, you said that "ANY agent for a corporation that does business in more than one province can act as notary."
PBIDDY is registered in Delaware and clearly doing business in Massachusets. Is this the same in the states?
If so, the AGENT probably can't notarize documents that pertain to the corporation they are an AGENT of, yes?
Scott Duncan
I do not know of the internal workings of the British East India Trading Company. Sorry :/
Chris Evan
I know....thanks though, I have a good head start to find out! :-D
Pete Daoust
Here Chris Evan, the whole fucking internal workings of the British East India Trading Company.....no need to thank me for it, it's a gift because I love you <3
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