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Non.

I understand that you are a proud Québécois, but the people here have nothing but contempt for you because of decades of transfer payments and NONE OF YOU understanding what Quebec sovereignty means. None of you know who Russell Rogers Smith is, and you're too proud and arrogant to teach. Just go away and be Retardier somewhere else.

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May 21, 2014 6:39 PM

Cara Small

Apparently it is now presumed you are lying about not drinking and driving and you must prove otherwise. I was stopped at a check and I asked why I was being stopped. He said he wasn't stopping ME (could have fooled me). It was a check for drunk driving and valid licenses and insurance. So I gave the prick the license. Then was asked if I had anything to drink this evening. They DO know that in order for one to live, one must drink......right? At this point my options were to say sweet "F" all and end up being hauled off anyway, tell him it is none of his business and get hauled off, or be honest and up front and hope he isn't a complete steroid junky moron (I realize the odds). "Yup. I had a couple of sips of his at dinner." He then said, "So if I was to ask you to blow for me..." I interrupted with "I would say, 'No'." He, of course, got really offended as some men seem to think it is their right to have you blow for them. There was some discussion about providing proof and swearing affidavit. He threatened to haul ME to jail and criminally charge the person. At this point I WANT to say "I don't go anywhere with strange men with guns, and I don't blow for ANYONE for free (unless I initiate)", but I am sure my passenger would have been even more horrified with my non-compliant behaviour so I simply repeated "No". He then took the license and "ran" it then came back and blablablaed about how he was going to "let" me leave THIS time and IF he had a partner with him he would have hauled me off so I better be good next time and blow even if I haven't drank a drop. I am curious as to where I would have led them to believe I am to be violated at their whim. When I signed for the driver's license, is an answer I have been told. That can be easily fixed with notice, however, I know the next moron who blocks my travels won't give a rats ass about any notice. I also don't think that signing for a driver's license IS where that presumption comes from. Please correct me if I am wrong, but is not signing for the license agreeing to follow the rules of the road? And if one has NOT broken ANY of those rules when pulled over, does that not mean I have every right to keep going until proven otherwise? AT LEAST produce reasonable evidence that suggests I AM breaking one of those rules. The mere fact of being pulled over in the first place is already violating MY time, but I KNOW if I was to tell him THAT, I probably wouldn't be typing this.

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Anibal Jose BaezMackximus Minimus

If you are driving, and get stopped, you may hand your person's driver's license, and registration, but you are NOT obligated to answer questions. And yes, having a tag in a car, having a registration, and a driver license IS, in their training, reasonable evidence to presume you are the person, or at least in their jurisdiction. If you don't have any warrants, hand the papers, and remain silent. If you have warrants, DON'T DRIVE! (Duh!)

You broke the other #1 rule. NEVER, under ANY circumstances, talk to cops! You were very lucky. The moment you admitted to drinking, you acted as a witness against yourself. You CONFESSED to breaking the law. Everything you say will be used against your person.

"Am I being detained? Am I free to go? By what authority ...? Sorry, but I don't answer any questions" If you are not an "expert," anything other than these phrases, will most likely bring trouble.

Here are a few examples. If you already have been detained, and they ask questions: - Have you had anything to drink tonight? - Sorry, I don't answer any questions. - You don't mind if we search your car for drugs, or guns? - Sorry, I do not consent to searches of my property, and/or my persons. - Can you blow here? - Sorry, I do not consent to searches of my property, and/or my persons. - What is your name? - Sorry- I don't answer any questions. - You are required to give your name! - Sorry- I don't answer any questions. - We can do this the easy way, or the hard way. Do you want to go to jail? - By what authority are you threatening me with kidnapping? Sorry, I don't answer any questions. Etc.

Even if you are completely "innocent," NEVER talk to cops! I'll say that again: NEVER talk to cops! If you have not learned the reason why from Scott yet, then also listen to this guy on WHY you NEVER talk to the police!

http://youtu.be/6wXkI4t7nuc

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Cara Small

Ok. So it isn't LITERALLY don't talk to cops, but only inform them that you are not answering any questions. BUT I KNOW this will still end up with them kidnapping you ANYWAY. I have seen enough evidence to know that it is very likely. It isn't against the law to have a sip of beer BTW. At least I have never heard of this law.

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Cara Small

I hear you loud and clear though. I will inform them next time, as I am expecting there won't be LESS check stops, therefore there will probably be a next time. I just hope whoever the passengers are at the time, they won't be too freaked out when/if I am kidnapped. Funny how people/animals around you can have the effect of "making you feel safer while also giving you a feeling of having more liability". Boy this guy sure thanks that god character a LOT.

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Anibal Jose BaezMackximus Minimus

I hear what you are saying. Driving nowadays it is a risk on itself, for many reasons. Having "passengers" adds a huge liability, because they can become in witnesses against you, or become hurt if some shit goes crazy. So, pick your battles, and limit the driving time to just the necessary, or have someone else drive.

If you have fear of getting temporarily kidnapped for standing on the TRUTH, then this group is NOT for you. The reality is that there is MORE chances of getting arrested after acting as a witness against yourself/complying/cooperating/answering to police, than standing for the TRUTH, and never answer any questions. They are there to HURT YOU, not to be friends.

Men, and women that stand for the truth nowadays will very likely be arrested at some point, or another. The difference is that we know it's all accounting, and surety, and we know we are NOT surety. We know we cannot be detained forever, and that if you say NOTHING, they have got NOTHING against "you". The burden of PROOF is on them.

These are all my personal suggestions, I am not an expert. So this is not advise, but more what I might do in a similar situation.

I strongly recommend you watch the video I shared. It's from the USA, but it applies in Canada, as well. Be well, and don't be a "Driving while acting as witness against yourself" victim! :D

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