My wife and I are going to the hospital right now to have our second child. We are extremely excited and I was wondering what to do about the certificate of live birth... Any tips on how to fill it out our should I avoid it altogether?
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Scott Duncan
OK GANG! Show him what you've learned! :D
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
If they make you sign anything, which they will, put these [ ] around your signature :D
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Scott Duncan
Sign yuor name as "VOID" :D
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
or that...
And name him/her something you don't want to call him/her. That's what I would have done...
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Samantha Buller-Kormos
Could always go with the whole V.C. before your signature,
Or you could demand to keep the original copy. Anything they fill out otherwise without your signature is fraud.
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Just write down something like "Mike Hunt" and call him Daniel or something like that :D
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Come to think... back in 1997 when I bore my "she-devil", I blew out of the hospital within 6 hrs and hadn't named her. They called me everyday for a week asking what I had named her. I don't think I signed anything... :/
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Bruno Hiller
Ok, her water just broke and we're on our way there now. We haven't actually settled on a name and the gender is still a surprise. I thought about making a copy and keeping the original but I hadn't thought to name him VOID... Can't tell if serious lol. I'm under some stress at the moment so forgive me if I fucking lose it later.
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
SIGN IT "VOID" “that is serious.
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Bruno Hiller
Ok Gotcha
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Pete Daoust
Do not sign anything, do not give any names to your baby yet, tell them you need to think about it....
ASK QUESTIONS, like WHY you want me to sign this and that....is it to put my son in colateral versus the public debt....WHY WHY WHY...you know what I mean ?...good luck with the baby ;-)
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Samantha Buller-Kormos
All is forgiven.
But its easier to not sign anything at all then go back and fight with them later about it.
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Pete Daoust
I think I will make another baby just to go over this shit again :D
Ho wait, I already made 5 of these things :/
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I will sign anything you want, if you guarantee me, that you won't put my baby in colateral on ANY PUBLIC DEBT :P
Ho, and I will be the SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR of ANY public document created in regards of this new born human, until he/she reaches 18.
And I want CONSIDERATION, lots of it.... :D
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Samantha Buller-Kormos
Make another, just for old times sake.
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Pete Daoust
And I don't want you use the same name as his/her GIVEN name for ANY public Document you may want to CREATE.......I keep the RIGHT to choose the PUBLIC names .....SLINGSHOT DAOUST would work perfectly for his/her PERSON's name.......his/her TAKEN name will be decide in my office.....in PRIVATE :P
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Pete Daoust
BY WHAT AUTHORITY YOU ARE FORCING ME TO ATTACH A NAME DERIVED FROM A PUBLIC DOCUMENT TO MY NEW BORN HUMAN BABY ?
HAHAHAHAHA :D
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Pete Daoust
Oh, and I need a COMPLETE instruction manual with this new LEGAL PERSON you just created......
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Bruno Hiller
It's a baby girl. Happy, healthy, beautiful and My PROPERTY.
This nurse we had, threatened me with child family services if I didn't sign this paperwork of live birth record... And I was being a perfect gentleman, only asking questions honourably and honestly wanting answers to questions like "Am I obligated by law to sign this document?" "By who's authority?" and that's all it took for her to mention "negligence" on my part and "child family services" so I'm kind of pissed off that my concern has brought her to the brink of informing authorities.
SO I also REFUSED the screening process where they poke a hole in my property and take blood samples for supposed screening, and the doctor said he might have to contact child family services because it is neglect to place my child in potential danger... I asked him to advise me on the correct course of action based on his professional opinion so I'm not neglecting anything. Also I asked if I had a right to refuse the screening and he claimed he'd NEVER HAD ANYONE REFUSE BEFORE ME and I asked him to make sure I had no right to refuse... He came back with a pamphlet and a print out detailing my RIGHT TO REFUSE SCREENING.
What an ordeal this is. I'm still unsure of what to do here. I'm not prepared to take on child family kidnappers.
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Samantha Buller-Kormos
The'll threaten until the cows come home. It's empty threats.
How can they take away something that does not belong to them? That's kidnapping/theft.
They are PUBLIC SERVANTS. Remember, they serve YOU.
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Samantha Buller-Kormos
They're trying to COERCE you into contract. Ask to keep the original copy, also, ask them the questions pete mentioned. As it's a contract - a bond, you have the right to have your stipulations upheld before you sign anything.
Refusal of screening is just hospital policy bs. They're liable if anything goes wrong unless you sign a waiver saying if anything goes wrong it's your fault and thus you can't sue.
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Bruno Hiller
Ok well so far we are having no screening testing or vaccinations in our fabulous healthy baby princess. I've asked the 2nd rotation nurse to find out what authority is making it mandatory for me to sign as she thinks it's mandatory... I know she's going to ask around and eventually come back with the obvious fraudulent answer of "vital statistics act" so how should I proceed?
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Rodrigo Dan Darius
if a stranger comes to your door and attempts to kidnap your daughter.. property or offspring, whatever you want to call her, what lengths would you go to prevent them from doing that?
isnt there only ONE right answer?
Pete gave you great guidance on this already...^^^^^
he is NOT joking.
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Rodrigo Dan Darius
you may be anxious right now but perhaps you could create your own contract with your own terms and conditions. based on Pete's guidance.
and sign THAT one. not theirs.
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Samantha Buller-Kormos
Ask the Questions that Pete asked. If they cannot give you those answers in written form as PROOF, refuse to contract. Or you can demand to keep the original.
THEY ARE PUBLIC SERVANTS, THEY SERVE YOU.
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Samantha Buller-Kormos
Personally, if they continue to persist, I would start threatening action as compensation for pain and suffering you endured from their coercion - especially in such a delicate and fragile time.
Their threats are 110% hollow, backed by nothing other than well you have to do it because that's just the way we think it is.
Arbitrary.
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Either sign it VOID or put [ ] around your signature (leaves it out of the document). If you are legally married they CAN persist in taking your child because that is what Legal Marriage Contract is about.
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Pete Daoust
well you have to do it because that's just the way we think it is. :D
There is a definition in Pete's Law Dictionary for that :D
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Pete Daoust
What ? ...Beverly Berta Braakschmack ? :-o
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Pete Daoust
He dosen't REFUSE to sign, he is just asking WHY and WHAT it is he is signing :/
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
A Legal Marriage gives gov't authority for anything that comes out of that contract, like babies.
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Samantha Buller-Kormos
As soon as you try to have a kid and they find out you're together, they apparently slap the common law label on you faster than you can blink either way - basically the same thing as marriage licence for the court system incase you split up - in which case they can still steal your kid. hell, I have a friend who wasn't with a boyfriend by the time the delivery rolled around, and they still stole her kid giving her visitation rights but raised by the province. Unless it's different from what i've been told, that's what I was told by them, their lips to my ears - but it varies from province to province.
Marriage licence or not, you can still dictate stipulations on the bond they are now attempting to coerce you into signing for your child.
If they don't satisfy your terms that you want fulfilled, screw them.
They are PUBLIC SERVANTS. THEY SERVE YOU.
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Pete Daoust
The way I see it, YOU NEVER REFUSE, you say YES, I want to sign, but I just need to know what is it I am signing, and WHY I need to sign it.....I WANT, but I have a few questions.....
1). Is this in regards with DEBTS, and/or SURETY, and/or MONEY... ?
2). ...Are you going to create a brand spanking new person for my baby girl ?
3) ...WHO will be SURETY for that new PERSON ?
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Pete Daoust
As the SOLE authorized Administrator for PIERRE DAOUST, and PIERRE & NADINE (marriage), I NEVER REFUSE STUFF....
I always say: YES, I want, but I have a few questions :P
And these questions are not AMATEUR questions :D
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Pete Daoust
Fuck, I wish I knew all this 20 years ago :(
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Samantha Buller-Kormos
I'm blessed. I get to know all this now as compared to later.
Although my god is it ever a lot to know. And there's never 1 sure fire way of doing it! XD
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Pete Daoust
You're LUCKY, you mean... :/ (I hope) :(
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Samantha Buller-Kormos
Eh, lucky, blessed. Same meaning in this instance.
Either way I got drawn a pretty good hand in the knowledge and connections department when it comes to law at such a young age.
better now than never.
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Pete Daoust
blessed (bl?s'?d) also blest (bl?st)
adj.
1.
a. Worthy of worship; holy.
b. Held in veneration; revered.
2. Blessed Roman Catholic Church Used as a title before the name of one who has been beatified.
3. Bringing happiness, pleasure, or contentment.
4. blessed Used as an intensive: I don't have a blessed dime.
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Pete Daoust
uckéy (l?k'?)
adj. luck·i·er, luck·i·est
1. Having or attended by good luck. See Synonyms at happy.
2. Occurring by chance; fortuitous.
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Samantha Buller-Kormos
I'll go with option 3 on the blessed definition.
and option 1 including the synonym.
That work?
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Pete Daoust
It's just on the fence.... :D
I hate evrything related to religious fucktardise....sorry :)
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Samantha Buller-Kormos
Fuck are you ever hard to please.
Jesus christ.
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Scott Duncan
I am the only "connection" you need. I won't lie to you.
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Samantha Buller-Kormos
LOL. Hate it if you will. your choice. XD
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Scott Duncan
He's precise. Not "hard to please". :P
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Scott Duncan
...and adults with imaginary friends are stupid.
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Pete Daoust
Samantha Buller-Kormos, don't tell me you have imaginary friends ? :(
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Samantha Buller-Kormos
Eh! stay on topic. Lets not turn this thread into another debate over ideas regarding religious mumbo jumbo. haha.
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Pete Daoust
You've started this :P
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Pete Daoust
By choosing a kidfuckery word :D
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Scott Duncan
They ALL do. Remember when I purged the theists and made the group secret, so you could actually learn? That's why.
They are ALL adults with imaginary friends.
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Pete Daoust
:(
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Samantha Buller-Kormos
Ok, i used the 'wrong word'. Forgive me. I now know better.
Goodness!
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Scott Duncan
...and the TOPIC is whatever an admin SAYS it it... OH LOOK! Pete Daoust is an ADMIN!
...see how that works, dear? :D
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Pete Daoust
:D
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Samantha Buller-Kormos
Damn you guys!
XD
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Chris Evan
Oh boy
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Scott Duncan
Intellect is my damnation.
I see dumb people!
They're EVERYWHERE. They walk around all day, and they don't even know they're dumb.
...and they're HERE now.
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Scott Duncan
I'm not congratulating Bruno Hiller.
Sorry, but I know how babies are made, and it's really not that hard to do.
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Scott Duncan
In fact I dare say I'm really good at the act that makes babies, and nobody congratulates ME, even though I always rock her world...
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Scott Duncan
..Pete Daoust made 5 of them! How hard can it REALLY be?
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Gerry Odonothing
Bruno, "On the record, I am stating categorically Doc/Nurse that I am ready to sign but before I do I want you to document and verify my obligation, please."
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Pete Daoust
So, Bruno Hiller, did you signed anything ? :-)
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David Johansen
well, first off, I would try to get away with as little administration as possible [but thats me, so i could waste more time here, been busy latley]. all one has to do is remain honorable, and ask questions.
tell them its on the mothers tab, and that she will vouch for you being it's father at the next meeting
what you say all depends on what your asked. take notes, tell them you will get back to them about it.
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David Johansen
maybe paint the kids feet before they can rubber stamp them, or put little booties on him. make sure you and/or somonelse trusted, doesnt let it get out of sight, not even a moment. and dont let it get injections and/or fed without a warantee & liability statements by the party...
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David Johansen
ask them, how much does the kid owe you for this?
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