This is a SPECIAL thread regarding Municipality TAXES .
We will talk about MUNICIPALITY taxes.....
First, we need to find out WHERE the mistake was made, in regards to this property that has been acquired by the PERSON, we happen to have in our pocket.
A MISTAKE was made, and you will find out in the ACT OF SALE, read this document, the MISTAKE is clearly identified in there... ;)
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Pete Daoust
I am waiting.... :P
David Vilaca
is the ACT OF SALE with the DEATHPLEDGE/MORTGAGE documents or searchable as an ACT?
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Pete Daoust
The fucking act of sale you've signed :/
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David Vilaca
I have not signed anything? Karen has, just looking for where to start
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Pete Daoust
Ok, the act of sale Karen signed.....what the fuck is wrong with you ? :(
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Pete Daoust
Ok, if the person have a house, there must be a NOTARIZED act of sale signed by parties......
Go and get that document, and read it......the MISTAKE is in there...
Hellossss !!!! :(
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Pete Daoust
:D
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Pete Daoust
Read it ALL, and then THINK, and then POST :P
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David Vilaca
reading
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Pete Daoust
Hint: It's all about SURETY and ACCOUNTING :P
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David Vilaca
it always is
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Pete Daoust
So in that ACT, I "MUST" have accepted SURETY somewhere, and accepted to ACCOUNT for it.....BY MISTAKE :D
It is so clearly identified, in the act of sale I have in front of me :D
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Pete Daoust
It's one short paragraph :P
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Dean Kory
Even the Realtor's contract is loaded with "Special Nuggets" you can tear apart!
David Vilaca
is it 12 DOCUMENTS AND DISCHARGE: Buyer agrees
to accept Seller’s lawyer’s personal undertaking to obtain, out of the closing funds, a discharge in registrable form and
to register same, or cause same to be registered?
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Pete Daoust
Try to spot Canada Revenu Agency in the ACT of Sale, the one I have in front of me, says:
I agree to acquire this property, under the CRA and QRA income tax act.
:P
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Pete Daoust
Tommy Atherton and Cara Small, do you have the Act of Sale that you've SIGNED ?
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Todd Kozinka
How about the Irrevocable Power of Attorney hidden in Mortgage documents? Not sure if they are here on Canada but I wouldn't be surprised.
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Tommy Atherton
thanks for direction Pete, I'll start looking through the paperwork once again!
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David Vilaca
it's forty pages, this will take awhile
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Pete Daoust
It took 1 minute when it has been signed :P
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Pete Daoust
HAHAHA!!!.....semi-evolved chimps we are :D !!!
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
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David Vilaca
sign here, here and here, no need to read it, just sign here, here and here.
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Tommy Atherton
I bought that debt back, this year, with good reason to presume i had, somewhere down the road, contracted, by mistake, to be surety for that debt. I have noticed a trend, many mistakes!
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David Vilaca
From first mortgage.
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David Vilaca
the refinancing statement does not contain the above tax notice
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Pete Daoust
Is this the NOTARIZED act of sale, David Vilaca ? :/
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Will Bed
Well... I signed a document that says :
"In front of notary (name)"
APPEAR
"the seller company name and blablabla"
AND
"the PERSON WB graphic designer resident (address)..."
So ME made the PERSON APPEAR in front of a NOTARY PUBLIC, PUBLICLY declaring that ME was SURETY for the PERSON ?
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Pete Daoust
Will Bed, read it ALL, you'll find a paragraph in it that talks about Revenu Quebec and Revenu Canada.....
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Chip Douglas
Has anyone ever seen 'the law' that says anybody has to pay property taxes to begin with?
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Cara Small
The only part in the contract I see that refers to any other act besides the Real Estate act is in a box. The box has the "buyer" named and the "seller" named (with addresses). There is a tiny box which is ticked beside RESIDENT OF CANADA and directly under it says "as defined under the Income Tax Act"
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Cara Small
Now that being said, I don't believe I am looking at the notarized act of sale. There is no notary signature. I am looking at the "Contract of Purchase And Sale". Hmmmmm. I may have to contact the notary as this is all I have in my records.
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Will Bed
Here, the seller is identified as a resident corporation, but there's NO MENTION of the income tax act...
Then there's the sales tax refund part, the seller being a construction company... I'm confused ?
I'll have to get back at this later on... WB's got clients waiting for him ;)
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Pete Daoust
Cara Small, RESIDENT OF CANADA and directly under it says "as defined under the Income Tax Act"
:)
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Cara Small
Yes. It is a little misleading as to WHOM the "description" is applied to. It appears under the "seller". I am THINKING it applies to BOTH the "seller" and "buyer" because ALL the information is in the same box.
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Pete Daoust
We ALL buying these property as PERSONS, and/or Employee, and/or Agent, and/or SLAVES.......
So they have ALL the good reasons in the world that WE ARE what we've SAID we were....
So HOW can we CORRECT the MISTAKE we've made ? , :D
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Cara Small
Hmmmm. Contact the appropriate parties and let them know of the mistake?
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Will Bed
Well, that is exactly what I meant to say when I said ME PUBLICLY APPEARED as THE PERSON...
Can an ACT be AMENDED ?
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Cara Small
At the very bottom I see;
COPYRIGHT-BC REAL ESTATE ASSOCIATION AND CANADIAN BAR ASSOCIATION (BC BRANCH)
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Dean Kory
I know....I know...Notice of Mistake?
Cara Small
I am not sure who the parties would be.
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Will Bed
I guess the NOTARY's job would be to INFORM all the PARTIES, or at least be able to help us IDENTIFY them all ??
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Cara Small
I am thinking the Land Title District office may be one Pete.
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Pete Daoust
WHO tried to collet these taxes from you, Cara Small ?
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Cara Small
Minister of finance.
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Pete Daoust
Maybe saying to them....
Hi, I know I have signed this Act of Sale, but I was a complete dumbfuck when I did that, now I am less of a dumbfuck....
:D
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Pete Daoust
I HAVE MADE A MISTAKE, please forgive me, and from now on.....blablablablablabla....
:D
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Cara Small
We did send them a notice of mistake. It was the ONLY correspondence they did not reply to.
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Pete Daoust
Yes Will Bed, the Notary did his job, he made you signed something he assumed you've understood :D
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Cara Small
Actually the Notice was titled "Notice of Rescission".
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Pete Daoust
:-o
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Pete Daoust
So you figured out it was a good idea to change the name of that notice ? :/
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Cara Small
No.
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Pete Daoust
Let me google "budge" :D
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Pete Daoust
Nope, definitely no budge :/
budge 2 (b?j)
n.
Fur made from lambskin dressed with the wool outside, formerly used to trim academic robes.
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n. One who slips into a house or shop to steal cloaks, etc.; a sneak-thief.
n. Same as booze.
Those definitions are interesting.
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Pete Daoust
STAND YOUR GROUND type of thing ? :/
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I would be curious to see your "Notice of Rescission", Cara Small :D
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Cara Small
You will have to ask Tommy.
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Pete Daoust
How can you send to a party, a Notice of Rescission, without his agreement first ? :/
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Cara Small
Who's agreement?
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Pete Daoust
Your signature in on the Act of Sale :-o
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Cara Small
"My" signature doesn't exist on the Act of Sale.
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Pete Daoust
Who signed ? :/
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Cara Small
Tom. If one has signed something, without knowing what the causes might be or without knowing what they were indeed signing, could not one rescind their signature?
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Cara Small
Why would one need the "other" party's agreement? Now that we are thinking surety was accepted upon the purchase of property, I am not so sure "rescinding" is a good choice. This subject has been a struggle for us (as much as the marriage subject). And we have made some mistakes. We were thinking that by signing as the "homeowner", we were accepting surety. I am sure that is probably true also, but we were not thinking at all about the actual purchase of the property as being where surety was accepted. We have bought the debt now btw.
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Chris Evan
Act of Sale??? What the fuck is this? Here, I signed 2 things....a mortgage and a Deed of Trust!
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Pete Daoust
NO.
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Chris Evan
Borrower shall pay to Lender.....for: (a) yearly taxes and assessments?
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Chris Evan
I also saw a Limited Power of Attorney....
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Chris Evan
"The Deed of Trust, interestingly, says "DENNIS ING*** and MANUELLA ING****.....grant Christopher Schulte...."
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Chris Evan
Interesting that their names are CAPITALIZED and mine was not. :-D
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Pete Daoust
john scott duncan = a man. A Semi-evolved chimp, that made it this far.
John Scott Duncan = REGISTERED AGENT for the CROWN ORGANIZATION. In order to ACT as AGENT in this CAPACITY you MUST be ACTING AS HER MAJESTY.
JOHN SCOTT DUNCAN = LEGAL NAME, LEGAL ENTITY, REGISTERED CROWN ORGANIZATION. This is where all the ACCOUNTING and SURETY happens. When you use this name, you are ACTING in COMMERCE. When you use this name, there is always a MONETARY VALUE attached to it. Under ADMIRALTY JURISDICTION this would be a "VESSEL".
John Scott, DUNCAN = HER MAJESTY AND AN ORGANIZATION.
:P
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Age Thomson
Ok, so the MISTAKE was found it seems, so where were you going with the property tax part of the original post?
Pete Daoust
I was going to, before you start administrating these debts, clean the desk, and correct past mistakes... :/
Pete Daoust
When you've SIGNED the Act of Sale, about this house, you haven't read that thing, so now read it, and correct the mistake with whom it may concerns...
Pete Daoust
You've agreed to buy this house under the income tax act, because you had no idea what it meant at that time, now, tell them !! :)
Age Thomson
Sorry Pete Daoust, but part of my reading all the old posts means bringing them back up for discussion if/when there is still a question...
Thanks.
Age Thomson
Ok Pete Daoust, since I am still working on "catching up" with old threads as well as trying to keep up with current ones.... I have come back to this one with a question.
In my mortgage, I signed a page that states an oath that " The deponent(s) is/are 19 years of age or older and is/are resident(s) in Canada under the Income Tax Act (Canada)."
When I go through the Income Tax Act online, and I try to find a definition for "resident" I cannot find one. I also can't find a definition for Canada.
In the Interpretations Act, Canada is:
— Canada —
“Canada”, for greater certainty, includes the internal waters of Canada and the territorial sea of Canada;
Maxim on includes - is the exclusion of all else right?
Does this mean that Canada is only water and that I have sworn an oath that I am a "resident" of water?
Todd Kozinka
Sounds like admiralty to me Adrian.
Pete Daoust
Yes, they brought up the sea level over the CN tower :-D
Age Thomson
How does that help answer the question Todd Kozinka?
Age Thomson
There is a MISTAKE to be fixed. Pete has left me a clue about it. I have to find it (check), then understand it (working on that here and now), then fix it (after understanding).
Please help me Todd Kozinka, because "Sounds like admiralty to me" doesn't give me much to go on. What are you trying to tell me?
Pete Daoust
You have signed that shit AS a government employee.....
Pete Daoust
You've said: Oh yes, as a PERSON, I acquire that property....so YOU ARE A PERSON, in regards to that property, but mabe that was a MISTAKE,
Pete Daoust
Maybe you can find interesting stuff in this, if you do, let me know :D
many of us, pete, do not have any of these things to reference.
the only things my person receives is either auto related, or the telecom bill.
Cara Small
They definitely want you to sign as the homeowner to "get that benefit". We have considered signing as the sole authorized administrators, but NOT signing seems the EASIEST way to not create joinder. It means we buy twice as much debt BUT we don't have a problem with the cost as much as we have a problem with handing jurisdiction over.
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Printed copy · Anthology Volume 9, page 1449
Cara Small
Printed copy · Anthology Volume 9, page 1449
Joelle Spirit
Cara Small
Printed copy · Anthology Volume 9, page 1449
Pete Daoust
Printed copy · Anthology Volume 9, page 1449
Pete Daoust
Printed copy · Anthology Volume 9, page 1449
Joelle Spirit
Joelle Spirit
Cara Small
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Pete Daoust
Printed copy · Anthology Volume 9, page 1450
Joelle Spirit
Pete Daoust
Printed copy · Anthology Volume 9, page 1450
Cara Small
Printed copy · Anthology Volume 9, page 1450
Pete Daoust
Printed copy · Anthology Volume 9, page 1450
Cara Small
Printed copy · Anthology Volume 9, page 1450
Pete Daoust
Printed copy · Anthology Volume 9, page 1450
Cara Small
Printed copy · Anthology Volume 9, page 1450
Pete Daoust
Printed copy · Anthology Volume 9, page 1450
Cara Small
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Chris Evan
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Pete Daoust
Printed copy · Anthology Volume 9, page 1451
Chris Evan
Printed copy · Anthology Volume 9, page 1451
Chris Evan
Printed copy · Anthology Volume 9, page 1451
Chris Evan
Printed copy · Anthology Volume 9, page 1451
Chris Evan
Printed copy · Anthology Volume 9, page 1451
Pete Daoust
Printed copy · Anthology Volume 9, page 1451
Age Thomson
Pete Daoust
Pete Daoust
Pete Daoust
Age Thomson
Age Thomson
Todd Kozinka
Pete Daoust
Age Thomson
Age Thomson
Pete Daoust
Pete Daoust
Pete Daoust
David Johansen
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