Scott or Pete here is a question for either of you. I`ll Take a stab at answering myself but here goes I was not born in Canaduh I was a by product of West Germany by a Canadian father and German mother . When i was 11 it was explained to me that if i didn`t become a Canadian citizen i could become interned in a camp should Canaduh ever go to war with Germany again much like the Japanese during WW2. So under duress i gave up dual nationality and became a person of Canadian descent . I'm guessing the surety in my case would be the name of the citizenship certificate as no B/C exists
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Pete Daoust
Are you sure no BC exist ?
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T?lis B?auns · Brauns Orig Libau Tālis
or Certificate of Baptism? <<If you are using the baptismal certificate for identification purposes alone then no you cannot use it in place of a birth certificate. However, if when you go to get a certified copy of your birth certificate and there is no record of you then you can use the baptismal certificate along with other items to establish that you were born in this country and get the birth certificate or a passport. This often happens to people who were born 70+ years ago. They may have a certificate of live birth but no birth certificate was ever registered. The certificate of live birth is not sufficient since 9 11 for ID purposes.>>
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Pete Daoust
What the fuck this certificate of baptism has to do with this ? :D
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T?lis B?auns · Brauns Orig Libau Tālis
Pete in Sweden every child HAS to have a Certificate of Baptism, even atheists' children.
<<If you were born in Germany and were registered in your place of birth, it is easy to request a copy of your birth certificate. You can take these steps on your own, without having to apply through a secondary agency. Gather your vital information and a few materials and you can have a hard copy of your birth record in very little time.>>
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Rick Hiltz
yes i have one from West Germany but am no longer a so called citizen of it does it matter that i became a free agent and signed up with canaduh
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Citizenship is FEDERAL and Birth Certificates are PROVINCIAL.
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Chris Evan
This makes me think of when Scott said something like in order to be in Aquillae, one must resign. I am guessing he means citizenship yes?
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Lei Gh · Leigh OftheHouseof Collins
One must resign ALL contracts with Government.
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Vito Jose Dono
How is the accounting and surety different from an administrative if you have citizenship and not a BC? This question has been raised many times before, who is the grantor here?
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Chip Douglas
Is a citizenship card/certificate here in Canada sealed just as a birth certificate is?
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Phillip Prater · Phillip Prater Theprisonersix
If you applied for citizenship, then does it not seem as though it is you who offered yourself up to that jurisdiction?
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Rick Hiltz
as a minor i did not apply for anything it was explained to me that should Canaduh ever go to war with Germany because i was originally born there i could be interned much like the Japanese were in the US so that put me in a state of duress as an 11 yr old boy and fear dictated the actions that followed
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Pete Daoust
as a minor, i did not apply for anything, it was explained to me that should Canaduh ever go to war with Germany, because i was originally born there, i could be interned much like the Japanese were in the US, so that put me in a state of duress as an 11 yr old boy, and fear dictated the actions that followed.
Is that what you wanted to say ? :D
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Scott Duncan
Oh the irony. You just got English Schooled by a Quebecois! That's almost (but not quite) as bad as being beaten up by a GIRL!
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Pete Daoust
I may end up loosing the Quebecois tag, if I stay here longer.... :P
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Pete Daoust
:D
Fucktard: Where are you from Pierre ?
Me: The Tender for Law
:P
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Rick Hiltz
I invite all girls to try if they feel inclined to do so.
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Pete Daoust
I invite all girls to try, if they feel inclined to do so. :P
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Scott Duncan
Those girls are going to pummel you into jelly if this thread is any indication, Rick.
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Rick Hiltz
Ah rules who cares about them not me. let me know if your grading my posts so they can meet with your approval next time....LOL
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Rick Hiltz
Scott I doubt most women could.and most men would not.be able to.
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Pete Daoust
You're MISSING the point, Rick Hiltz, completely ! :(
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Rick Hiltz
It was not.missed Pete
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Pete Daoust
Ok, so why not...
Scott, I doubt most women could, and most men would not be able to.
??? :/
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Scott Duncan
Just like you doubt that a Quebecois can write English better than you , Rick? :D
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Pete Daoust
I am sure he could write English better than I do, he just don't think it's IMPORTANT to do so, that's part of the programming, these lawyers, who wrote these acts and statutes knew that, they all figured it out, that the mass won't take the time to give these words the IMPORTANCE it deserves.
So we, as lawyers, will be able to FUCK THEM ALL :D
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!.....
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Pete Daoust
I think this is the first lesson I got from this group ! :/
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Phillip Prater
Rick, If you were 11, then whoever it was that requested citizenship on your behalf is the one who offered you.
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Pete Daoust
And I am sure, every one who read my creations, knows I am onto something..... :D
That's maybe WHY I still have electricity after almost 23 months of not acting as surety for that bill, and that's maybe WHY QRA and CRA are staying AWAY from me, that's maybe WHY city of Montreal stopped their threats on me, that's maybe why NO LAWYERS are involved in ANY of my stuff....or, it's just a coincidence :D
They read what I write, and they know that I know, they know I choose the RIGHT word, they know I know where to put commas, they are AWARE that little Peter is AWARE... :D
I am pretty sure it makes a difference :)
But hey, they are maybe organizing a raid as we speak, all together :D
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Gerry Odonothing
Was that a knock on the door?
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Pete Daoust
Vito Jose Dono, If I were to be you, I would start by:
1). Do I have a PERSON.
2). Who created it.
3). When did it happened
4). Who is SURETY for that PERSON
5). Where is surety for that PERSON
6). What's the inscription number for that PERSON
When you'll have these answers, with proof, ADMINISTRATING that person will be easier :)
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Pete Daoust
When they knock, it's a very good sign, it's when they don't, now it can get rock and roll :D
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Pete Daoust
Will Bed had an encounter yesterday :D with cops, he ended up sitting in the back seat of that cop's car :D
He told the whole TRUTH !!!.......hahahahahahaha!!!!, tell them Will :D
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Pete Daoust
Apparently, they go silent when you tell them: I AM THE SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR for that PERSON :D
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Pete Daoust
Apparently, the look on their face is PRICELESS :D
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Scott Duncan
Do you suppose they blame YOU or ME, Pete? They blame ONE of us, that's for sure!
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Scott Duncan
Rumour has it that an ONTARIO court will have a VERY BIG TANTRUM if you even MENTION my name on the record.
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Will Bed
Stopped us coming back from a pub watching the Mtl - Boston game... For some reason, they hate the PERSON'S car and they spot it from miles away...
Took a corner a bit fast but not over limit, 5 police cars were just around the bend...
Asked if we were coming back from the Mtl game, I replied "No... ME I'm coming back from a Boston Bruins game..." smiling... I knew I had him right there !
Said he smelled alcohol, asked to step out the car, said I HAD to blow his machine... I asked if it was an OBLIGATION, he said "If you don't blow you're not out of here"...
Wasn't ID'ed when they sat me on the backseat...
They asked if that was MY car, I said it was the PERSON's... and it all started there... I am NOT the PERSON. I HAVE a PERSON and it's not my FAULT...
Did not have the license on me. Told them "the PERSON's license is in the PERSONS's car..." so the female officer went crazy, she went out to the PERSON's car and asked my friend to give it to her, which he did.
During that time, the male officer made me blow his machine, yes I did. I KNOW I KNOW I should have refused firmly, but wasn't ready to go through a never ending discussion on my first encounter ever since I started learning here...
I wasn't even ID'ed at that point and KNEW I wasn't going to ID as the PERSON... I was also 100% sure I wasn't over the limit. Now I have an even better idea how many beers = OK ;)
Every question they asked, I told them the truth...
AND THEY GOT PISSED ! Especially the girl.
And especially when I said I could PROVE it all even if I didn't expect them to understand any of this and I didn't feel like wasting an hour sitting on that tight plastic seat...
Anyways, the female officer came back...
Hey that's your face on the license ?
Well that's a mistake I intend to correct the next time they want MY face for the PERSON's license... I'm the Sole Authorized Administrator, nothing else. If that piece of ID is misleading to you that isn't my FAULT...
They tried to ID the PERSON with the address, like "where do you live" and I reply "I live in the area up there"...
or : OH Hey here's his address on the license... "Nah sorry, that's the PERSON's address..."
Or "what's your first and last names" : "Sorry, first and last names are for PERSONS, I'm not a PERSON. I have one... I know you guys may think this sounds stupid, but I can prove everything I'm saying"
Or "what do you do in life" (meaning for a living) to which I replied "If you're asking about the PERSON, it does a lot of stuff, but that's not ME... ME I like to ride bicycles and read law stuff"...
At one point he even mentioned something like "I could tell you read law"...
MANY TIMES he asked if I only had alcohol, I repeatedly told him I don't eat, smoke, inject drugs nor am I medicated and a blood test could prove it, but I "politely" asked if a blood test was an obligation to prove he didn't smell drugs ?
They scanned the system for the PERSON, found nothing. Had nothing at all to try and squeeze ME... And all along, I kept smiling and remained uber calm...
All said and done, that encounter helped build some confidence. Next time should be more fun ;)
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Gerry Odonothing
Been there and was told that "what we are doing is 100% legal" by the Sergeant." It's 100% unlawful according to the constitution Guard" sez I and your oath is to the sovereign constitution." They acted the bollix for a while and then let me go. Having joined this site I have even more ammo for these fukn eejits now... it's all a learning curve.
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Will Bed
Of course it's LEGAL, it is FACT. It's the TRUTH. Who gonna blame you for telling the TRUTH ???
If you're caught LYING, that's another story... BUT...
Lying is telling something you know to be false.
NOW, I'd be LYING if I told anyone I AM the PERSON.
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Gerry Odonothing
Fair play, youz boys on here are sharp as fuck and fair dues.
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David Johansen
makes me wonder if you asked if it is a public servant, (and it replied yes) if you could get away with saying: I do not answer questions asked by servants, you will answer mine.
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Chip Douglas
"Are you asking me for the name of the Man, or, are you asking me for the name of the PERSON?".....ive said that a few times when asked for a NAME, jams-them-up real good
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Will Bed
That's something tricky I now try to avoid...
ALL names are filed somewhere. If it's filed somewhere else than ONLY in MY pocket, smells fishy.
ME, people most always call me Will, but sometimes also call me Wallace, BigUncle, MonGars, TheMan, even Tabarnak and shit like that and those are not names, let alone MINE. But depending on who calls it, I KNOW they may be talking to ME...
If a fucktard asks ME, names are for PERSONs. PERIOD.
Let's avoid any confusion, it could lead to so much useless trouble...
So THE PERSON's NAME is the PERSON's and "my name is not Will" or whatever else...
I "AM" Will... You can call ME that. But I dont HAVE the name "Will"... It's not MINE.
Detaching from the NAME is one thing I wiped from my mind quite a few years ago actually, when THE PERSON's NAME got its tax numbers... Everyone calling THE PERSON's NAME are for business. Friends NEVER use THE PERSON's NAME when they talk to ME...
And so many other guys in the world also go by 'Will"...
Some people may use it to call ME, but even THAT is not MY FAULT... I didn't choose a name for ME... But the Government really wants to trick ME into using the name they have on file... :(
If you don't own a TradeMark for "Will" you have no reason for questioning ME about that name, or any name, trying to squeeze ME. I'm not interested. And if you own a TM, well... Sorry, TM are for commerce, and MEN are not in commerce.
And if you have a problem with that, go try to find a PERSON to talk to, the PERSON I have it doesn't have a tongue and it cannot talk.
When you tell them "THAT is NOT “MY” name" it does seem to screw them up, but they also tend to want to screw you back in return... And they tend to see you as some kind of idiot they can bash on...
Been there once. Wont happen twice. I can trust ME on that one ;)
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Janick Paquette
What about if you say: "You can call me Janick"? Instead of "I am Janick"?
And here is the person's name ossiffer! :)
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Pete Daoust
You can address me as "ADMINISTRATOR"
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Pete Daoust
It's not your TAKEN name that counts Janick, it's the ROLE you have, and your role is ADMINISTRATOR, so they can address you as ADMINISTRATOR
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Pete Daoust
No one cares about my taken name, they all care about my ROLE.......it's a fucking game, and the role I play is ADMINISTRATOR
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Pete Daoust
Where's Scott ? :(
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Gerry Odonothing
Definitely not here, and an open bottle of Paddy on the table just sitting there ready to be swilled...
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Gerry Odonothing
The fucking Cuckoo is calling outside so I'm fuckn off to bed. G'day maite as my Kiwi fwiend would say...oh now less of that............
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Janick Paquette
I know what you mean Pete! It's just to say that you can call me (fill in the blank) instead of saying I AM .....!
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Janick Paquette
But whatever you want to put in the blank is YOUR f*cking business! :D
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Anibal Jose Baez · Mackximus Minimus
When you are being questioned/detained, you are being arrested. And to ME, ANY/ALL interaction with these people it's an arrest and/or tragedy waiting to happen.
Not answering questions, like giving a name, it's because I know am NOT a fucking slave, FUCK OFF! Also, commerce is for PERSONS.
Even in their own "laws" it says: ANYTHING YOU say WILL be used against YOU. YOU have the right to remain silent (In the US, now you have to invoke this "right", to be "protected"), and YOU cannot be forced to act as a witness against YOURSELF! :D I'll repeat that last one: YOU cannot be forced to act as a witness against YOURSELF!
Even in their own clubhouse rules it says YOU cannot be forced to act as a witness against YOURSELF. So, by giving ANY information, like a NAME, DATE OF BIRTH, and/or an ADDRESS, I am acting as a witness against MYSELF! Duh! But if you look it thru the filter of SLAVERY, that's were the REAL reasons for not answering to a stranger's questions lay, for me.
I cheer for Will. But why do I feel that I would had not answered all those questions from a complete stranger, with a gun in his waist? Why do I see something completely fucked-up when people start answering questions to complete strangers with guns? Is that part of the programming, so I will end-up beat up by some possibly overweight low IQ sack of shit? Is it some programed death wish?
Or, is that the voice of the Man that says "ENOUGH with this slavery shit on ME!"? Is it the Man saying "FUCK YOU, you are not doing this to ME any more, I am fighting back!"? I just think it's DELUSIONAL to talk to complete strangers that I KNOW are trying to hurt me. But they kill people for not wanting to answer to questions, and that is also part of reality.
Am I thinking wrong? :/
Please Scott, and/or Pete, share your thoughts, if you wish.
PS: "You may address me as Sir, or Administrator" sounds good to me, when acting as Administrator.
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Scott Duncan
I have the luxury of the "Pick a Jurisdiction! Any Jurisdiction" option :D
"You may ADDRESS me as SIR, ADMIRAL or YOUR GRACE"
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Anibal Jose Baez · Mackximus Minimus
A luxury, indeed! :P
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Anibal Jose Baez · Mackximus Minimus
Besides handing the DL, and registration, I feel I should not answer questions. They can fabricate evidence if they want, but I know the only things that could be used against my person, are my OWN words. I don't transport guns, or drugs, and I don't have a criminal record.
At the same time, on these days it's almost a death wish to "not cooperate" or "not obey", for I see the videos EVERY DAY of people getting shot for NOTHING. It gets even more complicated if you have other innocent people in the car with you.
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David Vilaca
If you are forced to interact with the cops it's because of their intent to cause you harm. Wether its a ticket or a beating the intent is the same. I learned from my last incounter to not answer any questions. I have a DL and insurance but no obligation to carry it. The have many ways to creat joinder, I have no obligation to incriminate myself by carrying that person in my pocket. So as to not get beat up I give the taken name and declare my right to remain silent. It's an act of war in their eyes and I never know how they will respond, last time it was a fake ticket for the same thing I was assaulted for the year previous. The arbitrary nature of policing allows the crazies to go ape shit. I can stand on what I know as I have no kids to cart around, it's a pickle either way. Stand for the invoice or play along and administrate later.
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Janick Paquette
what would be the equivalent of Sir in French? :/
Because "Mister" and "Sir" = "Monsieur" in French!
So what would be our option to call someone (Lady or Sir) in French? :/
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Pete Daoust
Sieur
Janick Paquette
Sérieusement? :o
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Janick Paquette
So I would teach my "offsprings" that :
Look at this Lady! = Regarde cette Dame!
Sir, I wish to buy a candy! = Sieur, je souhaite acheter un bonbon?
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Will Bed
In Français, fuck anyone who dares to address ME as Monsieur, Sir, or whatever. I tell them all... even my clients and suppliers, when you talk to ME, it's WILL and NOTHING ELSE ! No ""Mister LASTNAME" or shit I'm easygoing you know ;) ...
When they deal with BELL, they don't call the guy over the phone "Hey BELL"... So I refused to be called FIRSTNAME LASTNAME. I'm WILL.
I tell them ALL UPFORNT : Ok, on peux tu commencer par se dire "TU" et laisser faire les "MONSIEUR" "MADAME" ? Je ne suis le subordonné de personne, et vous autres non plus... Surprisingly, it makes them much more friendly and easier to deal with, they like that... Same when I call VIdeotron or speak to any other business employee, "Hey OK let's make it simple, I'm WILL, on peut tu se dire TU ?" Usually they reply they HAVE to "vouvoyer?" their customers, I tell them "do as you wish, but let it be clear that I'm not "VOUS" and I'll only reply because you have notified ME that you'll be calling ME by that word, even though you don't know what it means..."
Simply teach your kids to ask people if they wish to be addressed as "monsieur" or "madame" or something else, but that they don't want to be addressed as such by any means...
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Pete Daoust
Best is to finish the job, and kill the French language, but some will resist, lets call a NATION WIDE referendum on that... :-D
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Anibal Jose Baez · Mackximus Minimus
We have the same problems in Spanish civil law, it's a mess for translation. Many words are VERY different in Spanish, than in English, and the meaning is not the same.
For example, in Spanish the word SEGURIDAD is used for SURETY. But, SEGURIDAD literally translates to SECURITY. Although they come from the same root word, SEGURO (Insurance), they are NOT the same, and we know there are no synonyms in law. It leaves space for misinterpretation. (Damn you, lawyers!)
<<Security
Protection; assurance; indemnification.
The term security is usually applied to a deposit, lien, or mortgage voluntarily given by a debtor to a creditor to guarantee payment of a debt. Security furnishes the creditor with a resource to be sold or possessed in case of the debtor's failure to meet his or her financial obligation. In addition, a person who becomes a surety for another is sometimes referred to as a "security." >>
<<Surety
An individual who undertakes an obligation to pay a sum of money or to perform some duty or promise for another in the event that person fails to act.
surety n. a guarantor of payment or performance if another fails to pay or perform, such as a bonding company which posts a bond for a guardian, an administrator, or a building contractor. Most surety agreements require that a person looking to the surety (asking for payment) must first attempt to collect or obtain performance from the responsible person or entity. (See: guarantor, bond)>>
If you read, they are VERY similar, but NOT the same word, and/or definition.
So, I have resorted to only use English for all my communications, for we have both English, and Spanish as official languages for government affairs.
It is a challenge, because I know there is no space for error in LEGAL world, when using words. And being English a "second language" for me, I have to be extra careful. Like Pete says, one or two days writing a page, then days revising it. Yet, it is fun, and I love to learn.
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Scott Duncan
Don't forget that Spanish makes you all sound like a bunch of greasy Spics, so there's that too...
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Anibal Jose Baez · Mackximus Minimus
We should celebrate our differences!
http://youtu.be/RKjWeslPSLM
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Scott Duncan
I just hurt myself laughing. :D
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Anibal Jose Baez · Mackximus Minimus
:D
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Scott Duncan
I keep singing that song in my head! I do it all day now! :D
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Anibal Jose Baez · Mackximus Minimus
Here is another catchy tune, as well, from the awesome Wonder Showzen.
http://youtu.be/q-KUbflnMEs
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Pete Daoust
Oh fuck...!!!!! :D
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Anibal Jose Baez · Mackximus Minimus
Oh, my! It just dawn on me after watching a few videos (search for" Transcripts denied -This is in no way lawful", and for "Officer Awesome part 2!" in Youtube).
A wise noble man uses very effectively the reply "By what authorithy ...?", after questions from alleged "authorithies". That's a winner from the get go! :D
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David Johansen
that has got to go in the flash card series. maybe pt. II
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David Johansen
The Sky, The Ground, The Air, all around.
Well, that is all mine, right?
By WHAT authority ...?
How can a MAN give up the right to those things?
HOW can a MAN give up the right to be ignorant?
AND if he happens to uncover a deception (not easy due to the brainwashing), he should be able to recover from such a loss.
[as rob would say, they allways include a remedy] (oh how nice of them).
I do not CONSENT to YOU. produce an enforceable contract, or go bark up some other tree.
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