There is a situation some may be aware of where by a bank has received a default judgement against the person I hold in my pocket. The bank is the plaintiff and it's the lawyer who is sending me notices about garnishing and now threats to take my house. He also has claimed a few things in the latest letter that are not true that, because of the success of this fraud to date, need to be rebutted by someone I trust. What I's like to prevent is any possibility of joinder with the lawyer, to date he has not provided proof of standing and is a 3rd party interloper. I'm thinking that all the trustee responses to his correspondence should be sent to the bank CFO and the court file. The idea being, the claims are rebutted, but not allowing him (the lawyer) to create any kind of joinder. Any comments, insights would be appreciated.
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Pete Daoust
Since when you HOLD that person ? :-\
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Gail Marie
arghh you get me every time ty...the trustee corp has that person
Pete Daoust
It's not me who gets you everytime, it's you that does it :-P
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Gail Marie
lol yes I know and I do appreciate you calling me out...its helpful :D
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
I would have CONTINUING MANDAMUS INC. [My Corp.] Respond to the claim. Specifically that XYZ PERSON is property of MESSEM TRUST [My Trust]. I would respond with a PROPER NOTICE and fee schedule for administrating such affairs. I would like to see if the "Attorney at Law" is going to respond? Remember he has to produce a VALID DOCUMENT with signatures.
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Gail Marie
the trustee corp is who is responding...he just scoffs at what he refers to as the "freeman on the land" approach and calls the invoices silly
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
It's not a freedumb response. It is the legal administrative process. If you would like a reference look at the LA Clippers issue. The team is property of family trust and the owner is a managing trustee. The NBA wants to FORCE the sale but has ZERO authority to interlope in Trust Law.
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Gail Marie
I think he is grasping at straws.....the zero balance statement from the bank in the name and a default judgement against the name for the same account is proof of fraud as I see it. He has a reputation to uphold that is being challenged
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
The TRUST has costs and fee's for management. If the NBA would like to proceed in FORCING a SALE, they have to do so with the possible liability of loosing. In your case, The "Attorney at Law" has to produce a VALID claim. Whereas; A valid negotiable instrument. I am willing to bet he cannot produce the negotiable instrument. Further, I am willing to guarantee the Negotiable instrument is not a valid Negoitable instrument.
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
Are there 2 valid signatures?
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CJ ML
CUT, HIS F___ING NUTS OFF!!!!!
Pete Daoust
WHERE IS THE BILL ? :-D
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
He who creates the liability must create the remedy...
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Tim Hutchins
Banks write off an the debt as a loss (LOST-GONE), so the books are balanced, the balanced debt is then sold for a profit for cents on the dollar. Ask what is the current value of the debt and how much did the debt collector pay for it. Then ask the question did they buy a debt they know wasn't being paid expecting payment and are they nuts?
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
^^^^ YEP
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Pete Daoust
WHERE IS THE BILL ? :/
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Gail Marie
ok I think I have some confusion. The trustee will respond to the lawyer, and ask for a valid bill. He has committed fraud by getting a default against me. What do I do with that?
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
It's not [YOU]...
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Gail Marie
grr you're right ...the name
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
The original contract is the [MONEY]. The Bill is the obligation. He who creates the liability must produce a remedy....
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
Maxim of Law: “The one who creates the liability must provide the remedy” WHERE IS THE BILL ? Does this Bill have his name on it? Who has been harmed?
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Pete Daoust
Against me ?? :/
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Gail Marie
I know Pete I know
Pete Daoust
Seriously Gail, just ask for the Bill !!!
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Gail Marie
ok I'm going to
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Gail Marie
in a response to him from the trustee, simply ask for a bill
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Pete Daoust
Yes
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Pete Daoust
ANY contact from ANY lawyer should have as a response: WHERE IS THE BILL ? :D
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Pete Daoust
They will all go nuts with this answer :P
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Gail Marie
That is a good enough reason right there to do it lol
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Pete Daoust
Yhey HAVE to supply a BILL, but they CAN'T supply a BILL......but they have no other choice to supply one, but they can't, but they have to.....but... :D
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
That's an awesome response Pete Daoust.....
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
LMAO...
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Pete Daoust
I PROMISE I WILL TAKE CARE OF THIS, as soon as you send a BILL :D
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
Why is it specifically that they cannot produce a bill?
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Pete Daoust
Please Dear lawyer, send a BILL asap, so I can TAKE CARE of this.....I would like to TAKE CARE of this ASAP....please please please send the freaking BILL :P
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CJ ML
Ah, they cannot be in commerce.... I think...
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Pete Daoust
What service/goods they have provide to the person I happen to be the fucking SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINSTRATOR of ?? :/
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
NONE.
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Pete Daoust
So.. ? :D
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
He's left holding junk....
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Pete Daoust
He is STUCK with a DEBT :P
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Gail Marie
so when they say the bank has done this and the bank has done that...its not true he is using the banks name to deceive..correct?
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
Yep, once the paper is charged off its essentially junk....
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Gail Marie
from the banks perspective the account is in recovery..is that the same as being charged off?
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
In the accounting world It's CHARGED OFF... Written off, Bad Debt [Cost of Doing business etc]..
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Pete Daoust
He can sing a song if he wants, I just need a BILL to administrate this matter.......nothing else
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Pete Daoust
If he brings this to court, HEY JUDGE, WHERE IS THE BILL ?
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Anibal Jose Baez · Mackximus Minimus
Just ask for a freaking BILL, Gail! You listen to a lot of different people, and look where you are at. Listen to Scott, and Pete, and you will be fine. Good luck, Gail!
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CJ ML
^^YEP^^... Now once he is in court, he is in deep shit... False report...
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Pete Daoust
You administrated this like a woman Gail Marie, very complicated :D
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Gail Marie
yes learning as i go...this has been going on too long for sure
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Gail Marie
I have learned alot so all is not lost
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Pete Daoust
LOL :D
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Pete Daoust
I have two things to teach you......ready ?? :D
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
Pete, makes it much more simple in asking for the bill...
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Gail Marie
yes lol
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Pete Daoust
1). I AM NOT SURETY
2). WHERE IS THE BILL
Now, you can dig anything else you may want.....up to you !! :D
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Gail Marie
yes I started out with contract law ....had I known back when I started what I know now things would be very different
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Pete Daoust
Oh, "CONTRACT LAW" !!
WHERE IS THE BILL and WHERE IS SURETY :D
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Gail Marie
hehe
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Pete Daoust
I started out with Scott Duncan, taught me to THINK :D
CJ ML · Jason Moreland
I remember....
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Gail Marie
you've excelled
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Pete Daoust
And to write better English :/
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
ouffff... Or however you French / Canadians say it....
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Pete Daoust
I have LISTENED :P
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
Well, I'm still learning... Keep it simple etc.....
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Pete Daoust
WHY complicate stuff ??... :/
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Pete Daoust
Any WISE reasons ? :D
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Gail Marie
No there isn't :D
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
It's all about Surety & Accounting....
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Pete Daoust
Do you guys think that ASKING for money, without showing a BILL, is something LEGAL to do ? :P
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
Who Me? I'm Not a YOU... Still laugh about that thread... Derek Moran goes to Court...
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Pete Daoust
*to :P
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Pete Daoust
Do you guys "believe" that ASKING for money, without showing a BILL, is something LEGAL to do ? :D
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CJ ML
I remember when Pete needed to be taught how to make emoticons....
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Pete Daoust
hehe !!
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
I don't believe anything anymore. What are the facts?
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Will Bed
Seriously Pete, if you were the stupid French token in a not so distant past, you'll be one dangerous motherfucker in a very near future !!!
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
Do you have a BILL? Who is SURETY for this matter?
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Pete Daoust
If someone ask for money, and can't show a BILL, tell him/her to FUCK OFF, it's completely ILLEGAL to do such a thing..... :P
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
Hmm. An invoice must not be a BILL...
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Pete Daoust
Except for the homeless on the corner of the street :/
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Pete Daoust
I was the DUMBASS French Token Will Bed, not the STUPID one ;)
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Will Bed
How would the new dumbass french token produce a bill, if a client ever asked for more than an invoice ???
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Pete Daoust
An invoice is not a bill, check out the legal definition of the two words...
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
I am now...
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Pete Daoust
I don't understand your question Will Bed
Will Bed
I can produce an invoice.
Let's say someone asks WB for a BILL...
How would I go about that ?
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Pete Daoust
Who would ask you for a BILL, have you asked MONEY to someone ?
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Pete Daoust
WB is producing the Invoice, not you
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
The Invoice specifically deals with goods in commerce.
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Pete Daoust
A man can ONLY "exchange" stuff.....nothing else
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Pete Daoust
Bills deal with DEBTS :)
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Pete Daoust
And Debts deal with SURETIES :D
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Will Bed
Yeah... Gail Marie get out my head ;)
I can make WB produce the invoice... But if WB wanted to ask Pete Daoust for money, or vice versa, how does a PERSON produce a BILL ? I mean all those bills have those strings of digits that who knows where they really com from !?
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Pete Daoust
Invoices deal with PAYMENTS :P
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Will Bed
Well... WB would love to help FucksThePuppy get payment from the Bank of Canada for their time you know... And I'm sure FTP would love to return the favour to WB ;)
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Pete Daoust
Bills deal with DEBTS, Will Bed.....think about it ;)
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
Because Labor creates credit.
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Will Bed
I think this corrupt govt owes me BIG TIME ! And WB's SURETY seems to be pretty fat...
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Pete Daoust
WHO is the government, Will Bed ?
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
Bill
A declaration in writing. A document listing separate items. An itemized account of charges or costs. In Equity practice, the first Pleading in the action, the paper in which the plaintiff sets out his or her case and demands relief from the defendant.
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Will Bed
A fiction ran by a bunch of worthless fucks who can't get a real job so they sided with the banksters ;)
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
bill n. 1) what is commonly called a "check" which the signer requires the bank to pay a third party a sum of money. This is a holdover from the days when a person would draw up a "bill of exchange." 2) a statement of what is owed. 3) any paper money. 4) a legislative proposal for enactment of a law. It is called a bill until it is passed and signed at which time it is a law (statute) and is no longer referred to as a bill. 5) an old-fashioned term for various filed documents in lawsuits or criminal prosecutions, which is falling into disuse.
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Pete Daoust
The "PEOPLE" ? :D
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Will Bed
And they've been suckin on my energy and time for thirty fuckin five years
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
The "PEOPLE" seem to be like imaginary friends these days....
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
I love the "bill of exchange." emphasis... just say'n
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Bill of Exchange
A three-party negotiable instrument in which the first party, the drawer, presents an order for the payment of a sum certain on a second party, the drawee, for payment to a third party, the payee, on demand or at a fixed future date.
A bill of exchange is distinguishable from a promissory note, since it does not contain a promise and the drawer does not expressly pledge to pay it. It is similar to a note, however, since it is payable either on demand or at a specific time.
The terms bill of exchange and draft are synonymous; however, the former is generally used in International Law, whereas the latter is used in the Uniform Commercial Code.
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
When all else fails... Just look up the Fing definitions.... Now, I'm back...
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Will Bed
I am not the people :(
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"presents an order" Who would give an order?
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Will Bed
It would seem labor creates credit, apparently, at the tune of 10% interest per year on 8 million dollars at birth... Not sure if that's true or not, I guess we'd have to get Fucks the Puppy send a 225 million dollars bill to WB to know for sure ;)
How old is Pete Daoust and how much is left of his SURETY ??? Lol
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Will Bed
Generals (officers) give orders.
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First, there is no magic check at the end of the rainbow WB... Second, it is the PEOPLES collective labor that pays the BOND holders which finances everything. TAXES. Whereas; The Treasury sells securities at XYZ rate, Then ABC Bank purchases said securities & makes loans etc... I can explain the whole process, but I think you understand that much...
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
Or pay the Bill...
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Will Bed
Alright, I'm 13 minutes into this... Tells ME I'M a MINOR ? WTF ? I have a PERSON. He's 35. Minor/Major is legalese ? WTF we never grew into adulthood ? French is my first language but my English cant be that bad ? This stuff sounds freedumbish to me !!! Be back in 15 or so :( ...
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Pete Daoust
A true BILL ?.....When was the last time one of you guys seen a FALSE bill ?
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Pete Daoust
Tim Hutchins, have you ever seen a FALSE bill ?
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Pete Daoust
Hellos ? :/
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Will Bed Just watch this: http://vimeo.com/35743293
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Pete Daoust
Tim Hutchins, HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A FUCKING FALSE BILL :(
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
False bill is an unlawful bank bill in which there is an illegitimate impression from the genuine plate. It may have forged signatures, or the signatures of persons not the officers of the bank, or the names of fictitious persons.
In a larger sense, a bill which is counterfeit alone, or counterfeit and forged, or counterfeit and spurious, or forged alone, or spurious alone, might be called a false bill. An altered bill in the same general sense might be called a false bill.
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
Interesting, a FRN seems to fit the "BILL"....
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Tim Hutchins, See if you can get your head around this, HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A FALSE BILL ?
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Pete Daoust
Why the fuck you dump that shit here, and you run away ?
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CJ ML · Jason Moreland
Me?
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Pete Daoust
No, Tim Hutchins
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Pete Daoust
Have you EVER seen a FALSE BILL ?
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Pete Daoust
OK, for the last time, Tim Hutchins, have you ever seen a FALSE BILL, YES or NO.
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Hellos ? :(
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Pete Daoust
So Tim Hutchins dosen't want to answer this SIMPLE question....
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Pete Daoust
I have cleaned the stainshit this Tim Hutchins left in here........don't leave these stainshit in here, if you're not ready to back them up....
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Pete Daoust
Shut up please
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Pete Daoust
A PERSON is asking Gail for MONEY, and Gail is asking that PERSON for a bill.......that's all......
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Scott Duncan
THAT is a shit stain. That will be the LAST time you EVER try to present the "Depends on your definition of.." crap as valid. EVERYTHING IS DEFINED and there is NO 'YOUR DEFINITION". Stop that idiotic shit NOW.
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Scott Duncan
LAST warning.
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Pete Daoust
That's EXACTLY what I wanted to say :D
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Will Bed
Alright, i think i just wasted 30 minutes of my life on some stamp shit video from a guy on a commonwealth "ahkay" "rayite" trip...
I understand what a bill of exchange is...
When WB sends an invoice for payment, the client has a debt to pay... Let's say Fucks the Puppy's Pete Daoust is the client, and he's broke, and he wants a BILL for discharge... Where are we at ?
I have no intention on trying to cash in on a $200 000 000 + or whatever SURETY... But there seems to be a bunch of motherfuckers doing it, and I have reasons to believe the more there is in that SURETY account the less the CAD is worth so the more we pay for daily shit and the less people have to feed the Sole Authorised Administrator they ignore they are :(
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Will Bed
Mmm i missed the shitstain ?
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Pete Daoust
You've spent 30 minutes on it :/
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Gerry Odonothing
This is fukn brill entertainment and very educational to a fukwit like me...
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Will Bed
Oh... I thought he POSTed an even greater one :(
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Pete Daoust
No textard in here please Gerry Odonothing :)
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Gerry Odonothing
Righty o
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Anibal Jose Baez · Mackximus Minimus
Textard. That's another one for Pete's dictionary!
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