May 05, 2014 7:35 AM

The paragraph that starts, "Let's go back to 1982." may have an error. I think it was meant to read "weasel words they used...". I may be wrong. Awesome read! Brain is clicking. Seems it was dumbed down enough for me, and I thank you.

...and Dean Clifford has sold out. Don't forget that part.

Yikes.

No wonder I wasn't "attracted".

Derek Moran has been "helping" with Dean Clifford's case. He's going to be quite butt-hurt when he sees this.

I'm sure he was looking forward to taking some credit for his "release".

When he reads this. Can he see in here? He could even read it on my page if he can't.

I almost want to invite him back to see. :D

...almost.

I know. It's hard not to want to see some one's reaction.

Is there a reason the friend is not being named? Not that it really matters who it is. Even if I didn't think they were a friend, it is still a shitty move.

Would you discuss the enforcement involved? I remember you saying something about him having to pay people back, that he charged for seminars, in your jurisdiction. I am wondering what your jurisdiction would do in this case.

Of course being none of my fucking business is always a choice.

The conversation between Dean Clifford and Darren Clifford was disgusting. It was a play for the recording. Dean stated this man's FIRST and LAST NAME no less than 4 times, to someone (Darren) who speaks to this man A LOT! They BOTH KNOW THIS. Well that man was raided by the ETF and rotted in jail for 4 days. He's done NOTHING WRONG. He's done nothing ILLEGAL, nor has he done anything UNLAWFUL. His handling and storage of firearms are what the safety standards SHOULD be...

...and they hurt him, and they hurt his family, and they put him in a cage, because Dean, CLIFFORD made a deal. You can ask Darren,CLIFFORD for the recording in question.

Tom listened to that recording today I think.

I want Dean,CLIFFORD to tell you the name.

I see. Fair enough.

Not Dean Clifford, mind you! You will hear it from Dean,CLIFFORD.

Such the jokester.

What about dean clifford?

Dean, CLIFFORD is no joke.

Of course not. But I find humour in how it came up.

Dean, CLIFFORD harmed a friend for his own benefit.

Dean, CLIFFORD WILL ACCOUNT for it.

Was dean clifford not acting as Dean, CLIFFORD?

No. dean clifford was claiming to be Dean Clifford, which makes Dean,CLIFFORD a CERTIFIED security instrument for and on behalf of the CROWN ORGANIZATION (DEAN CLIFFORD=MONEY). The JOINDER of that organization to HER MAJESTY is through the UNDERTAKINGS of dean clifford, who, by way of joinder, ACTS as HER MAJESTY AND an ORGANIZATION (By AGENCY). Hence Dean (Agent), CLIFFORD (LEGAL SURETY) is who he is "legally" for the duration of this case.

He shit on someone who's never done ANYTHING but help him. Dean, CLIFFORD is a piece of shit.

I think you are enforcing the accounting of Dean, CLIFFORD to account for the damages done to.........Not Named, YET. Is that right?

Another awesome post with a rather sickening ending... Dean couldn't do any better than that? Annoying :/

We try to cover the FULL RANGE of emotions, in the Great Circle of Stuff! :D

...shit. Wrong thread. :/

Wait, you said "MONEY". Not legal tender. I apologize for my confusion, but what is the "MONEY"?

No, maybe that wonderous thread of enlightening soul blather and the Uberpope lead to this one...

You've already accepted the TENDER FOR LAW, so no "Legal Tender" is required. Therefore "LEGAL MONEY" is simply another way of saying "BILL OF EXCHANGE".

Beverly Berta Braakschmack appears to have been "slimed" by a "spirit" from Pete Daoust's "Fuctard" thread :D

The part I can't figure is HOW you are doing that. Are you simply using a lien?

She's dripping theist slime all over this thread!

I gave up early on that one yet Ceit pulled me back in...

Naw. That's just her ready for you.

Sorry Beverly. Scott lined that one up all too well for me to ignore.

I can accept that answer. You are intimately familiar with how she feels. ;) You're qualified to say, through your own experience, and your hypothesis SEEMS to fit the facts...

"SEEMS" to.

...so Yeah. I'll buy that. :D

Cara, where is that recording?

...but you two get all lubed up EVERY time I post an article, so I'm not taking you seriously, until the novelty of the article wears off.

I was wondering when Dean was gonna burst...

Likely TODAY. Possibly a few hours from now.

Oh Scott, your articles DO NOT wear off...

Of course not! Only the novelty.

No... not even that...

I told you that I will not take ANYTHING you say seriously, while you are all lubed up.

...not even that :P

FINE :P

I have forwarded a couple of your articles to friends and the reply was either a complete NOTHING, or "Holy crap... I have to read that again"

I usually get nothing also. I think ONE friend liked it that was not already in TTFL.

On somewhat of the same note... apparently there is this ex-banker whom I've heard of that has a bit of an issue with the way some people think things should be done. For instance, he said a DECLARATION would hold more strength than NOTICE... I see a declaration being much the same as a STATEMENT (of live birth or what ever).

declaration, n. (15c) 1. A formal statement, proclamation, or announcement, esp. one embodied in an instrument. Cf. AFFIDAVIT.

Scott, what would "embodied in an instrument" exactly mean?

This "ex-banker" also said he could get Dean out of the bin with one letter...

Um... It means "embodied in an instrument". That's as Dumbed-Down as it gets. I can't engage enough stupid to make it dumber. It hurts already.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embodied

So, just as a Statement of Live Birth would be the embodiment for the Birth Certificate, correct?

I am just trying to figure out whether this fella has anything of value with what he is "teaching" others...

embodiment. Patents.!. The tangible manifestation of an invention. [Cases: Patents C=:>99.J 2. The method for using this tangible form. 3. The part of a patent application or patent that describes a concrete manifestation of the invention

That would be what the BIRTH CERTIFICATE, CERTIFIES.

In the Patent parallel, the STATEMENT OF LIVE BIRTH would be "FIGURE:1" in the patent application.

Would a "STATE OF TITLE CERTIFICATE" be the same thing?

It depends on who/what it is "Certifying". Certification is the INSURANCE for a BILL OF EXCHANGE (IT"S ALL ACCOUNTING AND SURETY)

What's the difference between a Cheque and a CERTIFIED Cheque?

Well sorry for being so dumb, but if someone out there is busy telling people they are smarter and have paperwork that creates "aftershocks" so theycannot disclose those papers that will miraculously change someone's life... I bring it here where I TRUST that I can dispose of that persons "knowledge" and possibly inform others on the same discrepancy...

The certified one is insured?

Yes, but by WHOM?

you

*Jeopardy Music*

Why would you go to a bank and pay all those idiot fees to certify it then?

I have never bought a certified cheque, so I'll be a bit finding that, unless you are willing to answer it for me. BRB

the bank

because they are surety for their account? operating in bankruptcy an all?

OH. Right! We DID have one once when shifting credit unions.

Well you do not "Buy" a Cheque. Especially one that YOU wrote.

You write the cheque, and the bank CERTIFIES that the cheque is ALREADY HONOURED, and they did it by SECURING THE FUNDS. Their seal on your cheque SAYS SO (Certifies it). Let the mechanics of that sink in.

...now apply that ACCOUNTING to the BIRTH CERTIFICATE and get REALLY creeped out.

Already honoured... sheesh...

can't even walk yet...

Scott, where is this link to the Clifford brothers mentioned phone conflab?

There is no link. I listened to it LIVE.

If anyone hears it, they got a recording from Darren,CLIFFORD.

I am so sick of bullshit... glad I just stayed here... :D

I PROMISED my Grandfather, that I would not lie to you. That fact alone means you will never get bullshit here. You will never be asked for money of ANY sort, and we do not beg for donations.

DON'T GET ME WRONG! I don't mind if you give us money! This Admiral would like to expand his fleet! Send me all the cash weed and hookers you can!

...that has nothing to do with what I teach. I just like Boats, Weed and Hookers.

Well since there must be enough "boat bunny" nominees, I'm sure hookers aren't really necessary. :D

Guess Fiona is out of that category though...

Admiral Scott, if acting as the SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR, do we need to RESIGN to all contracts with the government, in order to eliminate all presumptions of JOINDER?

Or should we just qualify our capacity if we need to engage with government, and let the surety take care of the bills?

It just seems all those licenses create the presumption of joinder. But at the same time, I am not scared to deal with government as the SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR.

I have my thoughts about it, but I wanted to hear your knowledge about these contracts with the government. I am sure a few people probably have thought of the same questions.

Thank you for another great article.

It's just that most people are scared to deal with government, and "scared" of having licenses, and permits. It seems very paranoid to me.

I am not scared about that, because of what I know now. Am I thinking wrong?

If you resign all contracts, how then can your PERSON operate in commerce? Unless and until there is a different monetary system where the people extend their "full faith and credit" there is no BENEFIT to that.

Yes, your programming and some free-dumber shit is entering...

I boil it down to “it's too much learning and work, and many just don't want to do that. So they call it "scared of dealing with".

And each generation feels that, and the system grows stronger.

And they will make it harder for those guys as they get stronger... :/

No matter! In the mean time, I hear some crazy Admiral of a Private Navy plans on collapsing the banking system and starting a war, so there's that...

Until something else is in place, the way I see it is that: shit, it's not my fault! As long as I operate, and qualify my role as the SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR, what do I have to worry about? I know about surety, and accounting. If I am "taking care of business", what's to worry? Are they going to shoot me? :/

But we are programmed to be irresponsible, and to hide our heads under the sand. So I heard many times people saying "you must quit all contracts with government." That always seemed illogical to me. Like magically disappearing from the commercial reality.

So, it's good to put to rest that you don't have to fear the person you happen to have in your pocket. I have been asked that questions a few times lately, and perhaps newbies won't go that route. It just really bothers me to hear you have to fear shit, I hate that non-sense.

Thanks for your answers, Beverly, and Scott!

SECURING THE FUNDS... :D

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! :D

ALREADY HONOURED ... HOHOHOHOHO !!

Fyck, this is so fucking funny :D

This Massachusetts Birth Certifiicate thing is fucking with my head. There is a CERTIFICATE of LIVE BIRTH here, but no Birth Certificate. And those idiots (a bunch of them that I asked about a year ago) said there is NO DOCUMENT called the Birth Certificate, only the CERTIFICATE of LIVE BIRTH.

Standing with both feet on land, I am watching in silence the Admirals navy positioning itself.. here and there a few drills and maneuvers..no one saw them coming, no one will realize they are here untill its to late... Those who know, brought them here....Its going to be Apocalyptic....very soon....Great Article Scott ......about dean CLIFFORD ....interesting and disturbing move ...

Chris Evan: The statement of Live Birth would be in the hands of the Hospital/Facility that delivered your sorry ass to the United States.

The UNITED STATES is a whole other ball of wax.

Pete Daoust, Jesse Alexander, Michael A Rivera, Kirsten Carlstrom (the list could go on...) and I have all tried to figure out why ours are all different. Some have 1 signature. Some have a tear off coupon. I can get 2. One on bond paper sealed and registered by the STATE and one sealed by a COUNTY.

I is.You provided the Matrix Foundation with the FOREIGN instruments. The "Citizenship" card you have will say "Joey,SPIRIT" indicating JOINDER with your SURETY (The ones who "imported" you).

Joey Spirit from which country? US?

"John Scott Duncan = REGISTERED AGENT for the CROWN ORGANIZATION. In order to ACT as AGENT in this CAPACITY you MUST be ACTING AS HER MAJESTY"

And this seems to be a good reason why you have said Scott, that a TAKEN name has more power in law?

PERSONAL legal definition : :D

PERSONAL. Belonging to the person. 2. This adjective is frequently employed in connection with substantives, things, goods, chattels, actions, right, duties, and the like as personal estate, put in opposition to real estate; personal actions, in contradistinction to real actions; personal rights are those which belong to the person; personal duties are those which are to be performed in person.

Perfomed "IN PERSON" :D

Muhahahahahahaha!!!!!

So, for the question Joey Spirit posed: What on earth could be so personal??

EVERYTHING TABARNAK :D

In this Privacy Act, do they give the definition of the word "Individual" ?

I don't see it, and this is strange because the word "Individual" is used a lot in this act :D

What is a fucking "Individual" ? Scott :)

Everything I look brings me to: Individual = PERSON

You got it

How much time it took for you to have that citizen card, Joey Spirit ?

Notice the NAME is written as JOINDER

Were you from a COMMON WEALTH country ? ....what country you came from ?

Miss ?? :(

You are a female ? :/

And how much time it took for your dad to get that card ? :)

What is it, are you scared of this Boat-Bunny thing ? :D

Hahaha!

I hear you.... I am a chick too, :D

Oh wait !! :/

Yes, Boat bunny is not for the timid...and I have many varied...appetites. ;)

The fear is part of the fun. :P

It seems too fast, I would imagine your dad must had wait at least 2 years to have this card, but I am just using logic here... :/

Ha !! :D

I wish I would know the mechanic on HOW they move surety, from one country to another :)

Or do they just create a brand spanking new surety, for the new ARRIVALS ? :D

That's it.

I knew you would stumble on it eventually ::P

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! :D

Dean will be out in time to join the next major Free-Dumber tour: http://www.modernknowledge2014.com/

"Scott Duncan No matter! In the mean time, I hear some crazy Admiral of a Private Navy plans on collapsing the banking system and starting a war, so there's that..."..............LOL Scott Duncan that comment made me think of this tonight. :p http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xyqxc_the-crimson-permanent-assurance_fun

This is the document I acquired from the hospital where I was born...

TRAINING HOSPITAL! :D

They were just "practicing" and ended up with you. :D

HAHAHA!!!! :D

I'm the product of an experiment... :p

They also have my brothers' and sisters' dates of birth scribbled n the top...

Also the covered over white parts were done so by them. I wonder what is under them...?

Ask them !! ?? :/

2 yrs ago it took me 3 months of running around just to get that piece of paper... I wouldn't know who to start asking questions to regarding it now...

For the indefinite future I'll be reading the main article repeatedly... Questions will most likely follow... :p

Haha!

Question: Why have you blocked 3/4 of this document ?

Answer: I dunno :(

OK, WHO MIGHT ? :P

It's not at the top of my to do list right now Petes...

Regarding Pete's comment about creating a new Person for "foreigners", my girlfriend is from England. When she moved here she needed to apply for a PPS number (Irish Social Services Number) in order to begin employment. She applied and they eventually issued a brand new number for her. She didn't apply for citizenship or anything like that, just for an "Irish" person...

PPS actually stands for PERSONAL PUBLIC SERVICE number...

The ACCOUNT number :D

"When the REGISTRAR GENERAL tells the public that their only role is to "record events", they are making a Robert Menard-grade lie of omission."

How would you more accurately describe what the "role" of the Registrar General is Scott, what are they omitting?

Scott Duncan Well you do not "Buy" a Cheque. Especially one that YOU wrote. You write the cheque, and the bank CERTIFIES that the cheque is ALREADY HONOURED, and they did it by SECURING THE FUNDS. Their seal on your cheque SAYS SO (Certifies it). Let the mechanics of that sink in.......now apply that ACCOUNTING to the BIRTH CERTIFICATE and get REALLY creeped out.

"...the (PROVINCE OF ONTARIO) CERTIFIES that the (BIRTH CERTIFICATE) is ALREADY HONOURED, and they did it by SECURING THE FUNDS. Their (Registrar General's) SEAL on your (BIRTH CERTIFICATE) SAYS SO (Certifies it). Let the mechanics of that sink in.......now apply that ACCOUNTING to the BIRTH CERTIFICATE and get REALLY creeped out."

Did i apply that properly, Scott?

WOW!!!, Chip Douglas ??? :D

That's how I saw it.

That's how I "FELT" it :P

It just went through my whole body like a vibration of some sort......I thought it was Fiona first, but hey....... :D

"ALREADY HONOURED" is the easy part........"GETTING THEM TO HONOUR IT," however... :/

Ha! But seriously, it's also the "conception" of SURETY in the Matrix.

Enforce the OBLIGATION, Chip Douglas, I do that everyday :D

Seeing Scott write "ALREADY HONOURED," made me think of Winston Shrout constantly repeating "PRE-PAID"

It's not the same, Chip Douglas :P

And NOTHING that Scott Duncan says makes me think of Winston Shout... :P

Especially the CO$T! I don't charge money and I give the right answers. :D

One thing i cant get past.....hasnt Scott before on here ive seen, made a very velied-analogy, to the Birth Certificate, as some sort of nuclear-warhead that was sent to us by mistake, but a mistake that we need to correct.....he seemed to be implying that we were meant to end-up with something else other than the Birth Certificate

I speak VERY consicely, and choose my words carefully. There is NOTHING "VEILED" ABOUT WHAT I WRITE!

DO NOT EVER IMPLY THAT AGAIN.

I DO NOT KEEP "SECRETS". I DO NOT CHARGE MONEY. I DO NOT LIE.

Saying otherwise implies that I have broken my oath. Stop it NOW, and stop searching in the Great Library of Your Ass, for answers.

I should've just said "analogy" then. Didnt mean to offend you.

If that's true, you'd best read my writing a little closer. There are things you don't grasp yet. That's NOT the same as "holding something back".

These are YOUR limitations. Not mine.

Read what I write; Do what I say. Repeat until you clue in.

That method has a 100% success rate. Just ask Pete Daoust.

Yes. :D

Here in Ireland, the form I posted earlier is from a book that the hospital keeps. Along with that book the hospital registrar goes to the registrar general (this was procedure in 1985) and is authorised to act as informant.

The pic is the section of my BC that shows the "informant"

There are 2 signatures on the BC, informant and registrar's...

I imagine the certified cheque analogy is what Mary Croft referred to as everything being "pre-paid"...

:D ....Who's Mary Croft ?

She's one of the first people I came across (no pun intended) when I started learning bout "this stuff"...

So. Much. Information. I dont even know where to start. Any other reading I should dive into?

I found out a friend of mine knows her and has had her stay at their place only 25 min from where I live. They weren't even aware of her book until WELL after it became known among those who didn't even know her at all. She sounds like a pretty cool woman. I have not read her book(s?), but may as I haven't seen much of a female influence (directly) in the study my studies of legal/law.

I listened to a few of her interviews starting out and there was no looking back...

What's the MEANING of pre-paid, or prepaid ?

At first I would take it to mean that the cost of goods or services has been settled already...

Deferred expense[edit] A Deferred expense or prepayment, prepaid expense, plural often prepaids, is an asset representing cash paid out to a counterpart for goods or services to be received in a later accounting period. For example if a service contract is paid quarterly in advance, at the end of the first month of the period two months remain as a deferred expense. In the deferred expense the early payment is accompanied by a related recognized expense in the subsequent accounting period, and the same amount is deducted from the prepayment.[2] The deferred expense shares characteristics with accrued revenue (or accrued assets) with the difference that an asset to be covered later are proceeds from a delivery of goods or services, at which such income item is earned and the related revenue item is recognized, while cash for them is to be received in a later period, when its amount is deducted from accrued revenues.

For example, when the accounting periods are monthly, an 11/12 portion of an annually paid insurance cost is added to prepaid expenses, which are decreased by 1/12 of the cost in each subsequent period when the same fraction is recognized as an expense, rather than all in the month in which such cost is billed. The not-yet-recognized portion of such costs remains as prepayments (assets) to prevent such cost from turning into a fictitious loss in the monthly period it is billed, and into a fictitious profit in any other monthly period.

Similarly, cash paid out for (the cost of) goods and services not received by the end of the accounting period is added to the prepayments to prevent it from turning into a fictitious loss in the period cash was paid out, and into a fictitious profit in the period of their reception. Such cost is not recognized in the income statement (profit and loss or P&L) as the expense incurred in the period of payment, but in the period of their reception when such costs are recognized as expenses in P&L and deducted from prepayments (assets) on balance sheets.

So, is it POSSIBLE, that these public DEBTS sent to the person, I happen to have, has been PRE-BOUGHT ?

:)

Someone DEFINITELY have to BUY something, before he/she can PAY for that something, right ? :D

I am not qualified to answer that, but it seems so.

:D

They "secured" ALL value with the birth certificate. If i write you a Cheque, then that is a PRIVATE matter. If I CERTIFY it, then the bank will withdraw the funds from my account, and honour the cheque with those funds. If I have no funds, but the bank has overdraft benefits, then the certified cheque will pass, but I STILL OWE THE BANK.

BANK=GOVERNMENT. You had no "money" (Value) to secure, so the government MAKES A DEBT in the same manner the bank does.

The Consolidated Revenue Fund is the ACCOUNT FOR THAT DEBT.

Everyone get that?

Robert Menard would say that it's an account with BILLIONS in it!

...but he lies through omission. He forgets to mention it's billions in DEBT.

MONEY IS DEBT IN TRANSIT! MONEY IS DEBT!

Money is debt III

Couldn't help myself there...

:D

:D

SO!

Either MONEY IS DEBT, or Menard is being honest about what the CRF is. Which is true, HERE IN REALITY?

Money is debt, and Scott is always right!

Since Menard CANNOT be honest (He'd implode) MONEY IS DEBT!

That's the kind "proof" that even Tony "sounds-like-he's-got-a-dick-in-his-mouth" Butros would be happy with!

"The government makes a debt" = The government offers an overdraft service?

YUP!

So when we discharge debt it adds to what the government is owed but is accounted for in the CRF and taxes therefore go up? :/

In fact they conjure the money into existence, the second you attend your first public school class! That's why you NEED A BIRTH CERTIFICATE TO ENROL YOUR CHILDREN.

So how, then, does discharging lower the total debt?

It doesn't It's perpetual.

MONEY=DEBT

NO DEBT=NO MONEY

They like MONEY better than NO MONEY, so they set it up so there will NEVER be "NO MONEY".

So discharging debt is actually adding to the Government's overdraft they have for the person... They bill us for the overdraft through taxes?

NEVER?

Never.

None of this is hidden. The numbers are clear.

The fact that it's unsustainable is irrelevant to them.

Eamonn O Brien - Only INCOME tax.

If it is unsustainable, then how could there never be money? Maybe my understanding of unsustainability isn't accurate.

"They just conjure money into existence" - They just extend the overdraft limit?

Yes. This raises the "Debt Ceiling".

Am I right to be picturing the government hypotheticaly walking into the Irish Central Bank (Or whatever bank issues currency in your country) in order to do this?

"Hello, we'd like to extend the overdraft on the EAMONN O BRIEN account"...

Unlimited "credit" limit.... :P

With YOUR CONSENT! Each time you use the name, you do that.

Great oxymoron Pete!

So by authorising the process of a BoE, we're telling the bank to extend the overdraft and use the certified funds to cover whatever debt is being brought....?

That's it in a nutshell!

Using debt to buy debt (Money of account)...

Copy and paste that folks... Eamonn's got it... :p

Just make sure to shake the surety monkey first... :D

So would it be correct that no one could really ever be held to be liable for that debt? It can't ever be paid anyway?

:D

AND IT'S NOT MY FAULT !!! :D

So the fear for them, if any, would be for everyone to know this tomorrow. Therefore stop working, stop struggling to get paid to pay bills and to simply authorise an overdraft... The national debt goes up but fuck it, just send me a bill... Oh, I'll just authorise an overdraft for that...

Swings n roundabouts...

So that's why Gas Monkey only deals in cash...! :p

Will the bank ever say no to an overdraft request?

WHO is the bank ? :)

Jaysus I just realised I'm Superman.... ^^^^

Nearly there! :D

To answer my own question, "Will the bank ever say no to an overdraft request?", No, because overdraft = debt, and debt = money...

It sounds like this circle of stuff thing, Scott was talking about ! :D

So, by the government securitising all value contributed to the person they can then sell any debts attributed to it? That's my understanding of securitise...

WHERE IS THE BILL ?.....

Oppssss....sorry, a bad habit I have no intent to fix :P

I meant as in a bank might sell the debt of a mortgage off (securitise it) in order to profit... So the bigger the overdraft on the EAMONN O BRIEN account the more debt they have to sell off... I may be complicating it...

Scott Duncan, what is the Consolidated Revenue Fund in the States?

Great thread....Gold! Thank you Scott Duncan & to the other commenters. Eamonn O Brien, your description helped cement a few more pieces of the puzzle in my brain...thank you all :D

Yes. I am quite awesome. Thank you for noticing! :D

:-D

You seems to take a lot from this group Stuart, don't be shy to GIVE once in a while.... :-P

Mackximus Minimus questioned way further up about the possible need for resigning from all contracts (as suggested by freedumbers elsewhere):

My take on this is: Acting as Sole Authorised Administrator, you are facilitating/ensuring that the correct accounts are debited/credited by accepting certain charges via a Bill of Exchange and instructing the beneficiary where to go to have the accounts balanced.

To take it to the next level:

When the person is liened into a private trust, the trust and/or corporate charter can be set up to enable the trustee(s) exclusive use of trust property:

Any of those pre-existing contracts also become property of the private trust, which can be used by (the board of) trustees for their exclusive benefit.

In effect, enabling the trustee to use licences, passports, Social Security Numbers etc, for the benefit of the new slave master (corporation).

Would this be an accurate summary?

A lot of digesting of information going on Captain Pete Daoust...I'd like to be a bit like Eamonn O Brien, taking it all in for a while, but when he comments, he spits out gold nuggets ;-)

That's it in a nutshell.

Thank you :D

"...the act of SECURITIZING your NAME is now complete, the GOVERNMENT henceforth can now LEGALLY presume ENTITLEMENT to all value attached to the SECURITIZED NAME"

Scott, could you define "value" in this sentence?

If I for instance apply for a driving license by producing ID etc and the license is issued, where or what is the value in that scenario?

A Drivers License is a tender for law! ;-)

And a transmitting utily if you don't know about surety....yes? Or stainshit?

Bobis Youruncle

Scott, you've talked at length about how this is about surety, but also, ALL about ACCOUNTING. Accounting involves a ledger, where on one side is the DEBIT, and on the other side, is the CREDIT (a ledger kinda looks like the 'cross' Jesus supposedly got hung-on in a weird way)

So is there any CREDIT involved in all of this equation whatsoever?

Thanks Eamonn ! What a read ! Took me quite a few reads actually to wrap my head around the whole thing, but I think I’m getting it and feeling stupid about it... Typing this sounds so much like what is explained in Money as Debt III” though I kinda never saw the whole picture” or is it even the whole picture yet ?

So when a PUBLIC DEBT is sent to a PERSON, and we use the Bill of Exchange to discharge that debt, that debt is actually being paid with the unlimited credit / value available to the PERSON which has already been securitized - as an unlimited ever increasing debt - with the Birth Certificate, and we have the RIGHT to allow for it’s unlimited increase, in that sense we not only ARE the only VALUE/CREDITORS for the PERSON, but we have the RIGHT to create DEBT, we are CREDITORS for the Govt and the overall sum of all those debts - a huuuge negative amount - is accounted for in the Consolidated Revenue Fund and when we use the Birth Certificate to extinguish a PUBLIC DEBT, it’s extinguished by ANOTHER PUBLIC DEBT which did not exist before, and they’d like us to keep RE FUNDing their shithole with INCOME tax ?

So the overall PUBLIC DEBT is ever increasing no matter what we’d like to do about it” It was designed to be that way... And the ONLY WAY to break the system - and eliminate PUBLIC DEBTS - would be for everyone to administrate those debts through the PERSON’s SURETY, until the system implodes by itself due to all those PUBLIC DEBTS only increasing THEIR OWN CRF DEBT to a point where there actually is no positive amount deposited at all to keep their scam afloat ?

So when a PUBLIC DEBT is sent to a PERSON, and we administrate it through the PERSON’s SURETY, it turns into ANOTHER / A NEW PUBLIC DEBT. The original one has been accounted for, and the new one will be sent around again eventually, and it’ll keep spinning forever and ever increasing but everyone will be happy”

If I'm getting this right, whoever thought about this entire thing were indeed a bunch of beatable arrogant fucks.

Jaysus don't thank me Will... The securitsed cheque analogy drove it home... ;)

Well... It's your sort of thinking out loud back there that kicked my brains to sort of spin until I wrap my head around that... So yeah...

I think I dumbed it down just that little bit further so as to spare Scott's brain from totally imploding... :p

Thanks for dumbing it down to my level anyways ;) your comments did contribute to driving this thread to this point !

Happy days man... :D

Thank you for containing the implosion.

This article is fucking great, :-o

Hellos!!

It takes me a little bit more time to read than the average :D

I wrote it; OF COURSE it's fucking great. That's just what my articles ARE!

All value is securitised... My understanding of securitise is to sell debt...

So is it Government selling the security to the Central Banks in return for loans/credit?

se·cu·ri·tize

To buy (loans, such as mortgages) from lenders, arrange them in groups, and issue bonds on the groups.

The "security" of the PERSON, I have the RIGHT to it

The "surety" of the PERSON, I have the RIGHT to it.

:P

What Does Securitization Mean?

The process by which an issuer creates a financial instrument by combining other financial assets into a security and then marketing different tiers of the repackaged instruments to investors. The process can encompass any type of financial asset and promotes liquidity in the marketplace.

Helloosss !!! :/

The "security" of the PERSON, I have the RIGHT to it

The "surety" of the PERSON, I have the RIGHT to it.

:P

yes Pete Daoust....i know.

Ok, just checking !! :D

"You'll recall when JOINDER occurred in an earlier article." A little help on this please....I can't think of it at the moment...

bond n. 1) written evidence of debt issued by a company with the terms of payment spelled out. A bond differs from corporate shares of stock since bond payments are pre-determined and provide a final pay-off date, while stock dividends vary depending on profitability and corporate decisions to distribute. There are two types of such bonds: "registered" in which the name of the owner is recorded by the company and "bearer" in which interest payments are made to whomever is holding the bond. 2) written guaranty or pledge which is purchased from a bonding company (usually an insurance firm) or by an individual as security (called a "bondsman") to guarantee some form of performance, including showing up in court ("bail bond"), properly complete construction or other contract terms ("performance bond"), that the bonded party will not steal or mismanage funds, that a purchased article is the real thing, or that title is good. If there is a failure then the bonding company will make good up to the amount of the bond.

"The process by which an issuer creates a financial instrument" hahaha = BOND!!!! :-D

Chris Evan, JOINDER formally occurred when Dean APPLIED/BEGGED for BAIL.

I'm fucking surrounded by tulips here and not the ones that grow out of the ground, the ones with two legs and horseshit for brains.

Chris Evan: You may have heard this from me before: NONE OF THIS IS HIDDEN.

Honestly....it is so obvious and simple that my mind can't fully grasp it yet!

MAybe I have some beliefs stuck somewhere that aren't shaken out yet or something...

hahaha....look at this legal definition of LAW:

A body of rules of conduct of binding legal force and effect, prescribed, recognized, and enforced by controlling authority.

The only way to prescribe, recognize, or enforce is to control authority!!

well....I am the authority and I can control myself!

I told you, the suprematy of "ME"....I am recognized as the SUPREME authority in law....it's written for fuck sakes

Tara Duncan said it CLEARLY a few months ago, GOD LIKES POWER.... :-)

So much great info Scott on the link between the Birth Certificate and the Consolidated Revenue Fund. A few weeks ago you, me, and Pete talked a bit regarding the Security of the Person in relation to the Bank of Canada. Is the Birth Certificate evidence to the Security of the Person we have in the Bank of Canada, the same as it is the link to the Consolidated Revenue Fund?

BC is a financial instrument pertaining to an account that only incurs debt...

Yes would be the answer to your question... I'm open to correction on that though....

better be open... :P

Yes. All MONEY IS DEBT. The Bank of Canada has no magic powers.

I suppose, as Scott just pointed-out to Chris Evan above- "NONE OF THIS IS HIDDEN," and in both our Bill of Rights, and the Charter/UK Canada Act, if they say- "EVERYONE has the right to...Security of the Person," then they would have DECLARED it so, so maybe no need to get the Birth Certificate involved in this aspect.....?

They actually threaten Parents with fines and Jail. The Birth Certificate is forced on most parents.

See ? :D Not only I haven't ask, signed, been informed, about the PERSON I have, but they threaten BOB DAOUST to put his signature for its creation.... :D

"They actually threaten Parents with fines and Jail." Hmm.....that sounds a whole lot like 'coercion'- go figure.

More like... slavery. :/

BOB DAOUST is a PERSON, a slave, :/

What were to happen though, if Bob Daoust, were ever to have legal title to BOB DAOUST?

What ? :/

Isnt BOB DAOUST a slave, because someone else, has the legal title to BOB DAOUST?

Bob is a fucking human, who's DEEPLY CONVINCED on being BOB DAOUST THE PERSON, so Bob "IS" BOB. period :D

The ONLY thing Bob could do, is telling the Government that he, indeed" received BOB DAOUST, and he is now the SOLE FUCKING ADMINISTRATOR of BOB DAOUST :P

And then, all these idiots in these Government's building, would go......Duhhh!!!, what do we do now ? :/

Increase income tax...

Oh fuck, I surely hope they'll bring that to the roof.... :D

I remember NOT signing papers after birth of my youngest. I was tired and I didn't have a name ready for a baby girl to be put on paper. Thought she was a he. THEY would not let up on the importance of my signing of these documents...until I did. :(

Fucksakes....wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew

What's the difference between CROWN and HER MAJESTY?

The crown is made out of precious metals and is spikey while her majesty is just a cunt :)

The Crown is a "SOVEREIGN STATE" within the state of the U.K. that's all I think I know.

JOHN SCOTT DUNCAN = LEGAL NAME, LEGAL ENTITY, REGISTERED CROWN ORGANIZATION

Could this "REGISTERED CROWN ORGANIZATION," also be considered a 'limited liability company' under the CROWN, Scott?

NO.

BOND=JOINDER=LIABILITY.

Hey !! :D

Hiding in plain sight...the Beverly Mass Police Department has their website clearly marked on their cruisers....www.BeverlyPD. org. So I looked up what .org means. It makes a lot more sense after reading this article acdozen times!

Why is the emblem of the NSA an eagle sitting on a key?

Nice.

Are BOB DAUST, Bob DAUST and Bob Daust the same person, whereas as 'bob daust' is the actual dude administrating that person?

Or are they all separate entities to be utilized for different commercial applications?

All of this has been answered.

READ THE GROUP, ESPECIALLY THE (MY) ARTICLES!

https://www.facebook.com/notes/scott-duncan/the-tender-for-law-joinder-for-idiots-c-2014-roguesupport-inc/942359415830531

Thanks, Duncan. I appreciate it, man.

"When the REGISTRAR GENERAL tells the public that their only role is to "record events", they are making a Robert Menard-grade lie of omission."

Robert Menard's recent video reminded me of this comparison you made, and, if you could pen a more accurate description for the Register General of what he honestly does, how would you describe it Scott?

The EVENT they record was when a REORGANIZATION occurred. They cant record the event of your birth! Calendars are MAN MADE, and the information ITSELF is just "witnessed"...

...just like people "witness" Jesus, Aliens, Bigfoot and Nessie! They CAN record when THEY (using their own rules) REORGANIZED something.

Reorganization, in the corporate context, refers to the initiation of a plan to restructure a corporation. such restructuring may involve one company being merged with another.

The process of carrying out, through agreements and legal proceedings, a business plan for winding up the affairs of, or foreclosing a mortgage upon, the property of a corporation that has become insolvent.

Reorganization is ordinarily accomplished by way of a Judicial Sale of the property of the corporation. The purchasers then often form a new corporation to which substantially all assets of the old are transferred.

I've misled by speaking English. Sorry.

That is not where you should be looking. My mistake.

Rephrase to say that THE EVENT THAT WAS BEING RECORDED, WAS SOMETHING BEING ORGANIZED.

Thanks. I was starting to think they were bankrupting the "infant" legal entity, because of insolvency. Then, transferring all property and claims to the NEW GOVERNMENT CORPORATION who then forms a PERSON / CORPORATION entity and pledges that PERSON / CORP to service the debt.

No.

The government does not, and CAN not form a CORPORATION. EVER.

...and don't cite "crown corporations", because they are simply policy-based entities with one client (Government), and are NOT corporations.

Thanks for clarifying.

But they are PERSONS, right ?

The GOVERNMENT is NOT a PERSON. ONLY a PERSON can form a CORPORATION.

I was talking about these entities, like CRA. QRA....

hence why it is the crown/Her Majesty in Right of Canada who is the plaintiff in court as opposed to the Govt of Canada

Crown Corporations that went private. Same with Canadian National Railways (Now "CN").

is the crown to the govt as a trustee corporation is to a private trust?

Yes.

When you see "government of Canada" on the SEC, is this actually the crown using that name?

Scott. Tommy and I were talking last night about the whole "voting" thing. Are voters voting for a PERSON or a CORPORATION?

A person I'd imagine... Voting consists of candidates vying for an eventual position in a corporation so it all being commerce, I would say one is voting for a person... :/

I think its a corporation ie the party, just looking to see if/how a political party is incorporated....the MPs follow the party line, or get the boot

I think we use OUR persons to vote for some ADMINISTRATOR who will ADMINISTRATE the fucking PUBLIC DEBT :P

I do NOT use PIERRE DAOUST to vote for some incompetent administrators :D

I have proof that they are extremely incompetent :D

Sometimes, I even have good reasons to BELIEVE that they are STEALING from "ME" :P

I have proof of that too !! :-o

When some one is REGISTERED to vote they show up (if they follow through with their duty that is) and fill out a ballot. On that ballot there are words that appear to be persons associated with parties. I was just thinking that MAYBE the words that appear to be a PERSON may in fact be a corporation.

If you look at it from the their point of view...

I want to be in a corporation involved in commerce... To engage in commerce I need a person... I also need the backing of some people to elect my person into this corporation. Let's hold a vote... People can pick their favourite person. Hopefully they pick mine... And yes Pete, due to consent by voting, I can now administrate on behalf of those persons who elected my person... :D

"A Special Type of Crown Corporation: The Bank was founded in 1934 as a privately owned corporation. In 1938, it became a Crown corporation belonging to the federal government. Since that time, the Minister of Finance has held the entire share capital issued by the Bank. Ultimately, the Bank is owned by the people of Canada."

Scott Duncan No.

The government does not, and CAN not form a CORPORATION. EVER.

...and don't cite "crown corporations", because they are simply policy-based entities with one client (Government), and are NOT corporations.

http://www.bankofcanada.ca/about/

this is interesting...everything is traded as STEPHEN HARPER?? https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154354747275078&set=a.10154354747105078.1073741866.867445077&type=3&theater

None available for me :(

sorry am fixing that

Hence "Harper Government"

Use the "files" section (Download it to your machine" and upload it here) and link it there if permissions restrict you.

Oh, and you might recall that I pointed this out a long time ago, Gail. I linked it to THIS:

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2011/03/03/tories_rebrand_government_of_canada_as_harper_government.html

...which states it was published on Thu Mar 03 2011. Try to keep up :P

Yes, a long time ago...

To quote the Admiral —"And Nobody Noticed"

...or cared :P

Chip Douglas I'm not sure what you are trying to say with that post. It only proves my point. A government can ACQUIRE a corporation, just like it can an employee. It cannot CREATE one.

(Actually, before 1933, it could, by referendum. See Canadian National Railways, and even THEN it had to be held by SOME private interest.)

But Mel Cappe, a former clerk of the Privy Council, finds nothing amusing in the development.

“It is not the Harper Government,” Cappe said in an interview, tersely enunciating each word. “It is the Government of Canada.

“It’s my government and it’s your government.”

...well Dunn & Bradstreet disagrees, and they have more money than Mel Cappe.

Like the Admiral says "follow the money." I think I got that and if I did that is the second thing I got. I need to get a box for got things.

Well lookey here a few GOLD NUGGETS! I found the answer to a question I had regarding SURETY for my wife :) Read this entire thread Zsolt

Scott Duncan "You provided the Matrix Foundation with the FOREIGN instruments. The "Citizenship" card you have will say "Joey,SPIRIT" indicating JOINDER with your SURETY (The ones who "imported" you)."

Is the NUMBER on the CERTIFICATE OF CANADIAN CITIZENSHIP what one would use in place of the REGISTRATION NUMBER found on the BIRTH CERTIFICATE in all correspondance?

Scott Duncan "BANK=GOVERNMENT. You had no "money" (Value) to secure, so the government MAKES A DEBT in the same manner the bank does. The Consolidated Revenue Fund is the ACCOUNT FOR THAT DEBT. Everyone get that?"

I do "get that"! Since the objective is to bring the system down then the means to achieve it is to make folks aware that they do not need to buy these public debts, they can simply DISCHARGE them. By doing so the outstanding balance of of the CONSOLIDATED REVENUE FUND will begin to grow exponentially very quickly. Therefore what is already unsustainable will be magnified causing the system to implode. Does this about sum it up? :D

NO.

Money is DEBT.

DISCHARGE=NO DEBT

NO DEBT=NO MONEY

Ohhhhhhh... and by "NO DEBT = NO MONEY" would this then contract the money supply along the lines of what happened during the "Great Deppression"?

Yes... only THIS time, there will be DEBT FREE currencies. I showed you how to make them...

...MY work will be ALL THAT'S LEFT STANDING.

It's INCORRUPTIBLE, and UNSTOPPABLE.

Aye aye Admiral...will need to search out the cryptocurrencies thread. I like the way you think :) I've seen Dogecoin and Litecoin threads recently. Beyond the name this is new to me but eager to learn.

I don't care.

*sigh* Here is what I am doing in this group.

http://youtu.be/WvFGcF1v2dI

The protagonist doesn't give a shit how much the people want to learn about an AK-47.

We are basically "savages" being handed AK-47s, and do not even fully comprehend how those exactly work. Hahaha! Well, it is the truth. So, there is that!

All that Admiral Scott is concerned about is to have a whole bunch of AK-47s out there. That helps his agenda. And if one lives in a world that is constantly trying to kill you, a free AK-47 is a fucking sweet deal.

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