Apr 24, 2014 7:48 PM

Gail Marie, is there a few fucktards that has CONCEALED a few COMPLETED bill of exchange, that you would know of ? :)

This seems to be a CRIME for someone that does something like that !!!.....I will call 911 if I would be witness of ANY crimes :D

yes there sure are :)

Have you called the cops ? :-o

I am sure there must be an ECONOMIC CRIME division, there in Ontario :D

I have not, but actually have considered it...I can't say I have alot of faith in them doing anything so will exhaust all other avenues first :)

As long as you have a FILE number, no need FAITH, just a FILE number :P

I only have FAITH in "me", so there is that, I can only DO stuff for "me" :P

Gail, you say you will "exhaust all other avenues first", but HOW many of these "avenues" there is ? :(

So a PROMISSORY NOTE is a VALUABLE SECURITY, right ? Is it bankster bashing time or what !???

I don't know, but ARTICLE 340, of the Canadian Criminal Code is pretty clear :D

So WHY not telling them this, Hey, I will have no other choice than to apply Art.340, of the Canadian Criminal Code, if you still doing what you're doing, because it's CRMINAL what you are doing :P

No one is above the law.....blablablabla..... :P

http://yourlaws.ca/criminal-code-canada/340-destroying-documents-title

341. Fraudulent concealment

341. Every one who, for a fraudulent purpose, takes, obtains, removes or conceals anything is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years.

Just 2 years ??? If one is guilty of 10 offenses, does that make 20 years ???

2 years x each PERSON who got a PROMISSORY NOTE CONCEALED from them should be enough to jail a shitload of banksters for life ?

:D

They really say: anything....yep, ANYTHING :D

And "the fraudulent purpose" will be easy to PROVE :P

I just wonder HOW to sign that declaration, to the cop's shop :D

Why do you wonder ? By : Sole Authorized Administrator for the PERSON would make sense... The law only deals with PERSONS, so the PERSON declares the crime...

I know, I wish I could see the face of that cop though ! :D

Next time you have to go for a photo for the PERSONS license, sign like that. I'm sure THEY gonna love it !

brilliant find...thanks Captain Pete Daoust...will find the equivalent clubhouse rules for over here :D

well, that sounds good if one were playing clubhouse rules. and we all know the clubhouse doesnt follow its own rules if it suits them or is not in there best interests.

i presume that includes a birth certificate, and since we only manage to obtain incomplete copies that somone else is and/or must be the holder in due course.

So by what rules would you want the PERSON to play, David Johansen ?

A man can ignore their rules, but the PERSON THEY (The Hierarchy Enslaving YOU) created doesn't have many other options ??

well, there must be a rule in their rules that states they are obligated to follow ALL rules, and/or not twist a meaning to suit themselves. perhaps a maxim they can not deny...

is "Every one who, for a fraudulent purpose", a group and an intent?

Pete, I am sure if you ask/apply for an investigation directly to the lowest ranking criminals of the gang, nothing will happen. That's the standard procedure. Like when you go into a police to file a complaint against the police. It ain't happening.

I think administrators take matters on their own hands, and send a sworn complaint, with an affidavit to the the attorney general, and/or one of those middle ranking paper pushers, that can actually fire people. I would sent it everywhere, shit, even to the governor. That should start an investigation. Some invoices attached would not be a bad idea, from a business point of view.

Now, I heard a wise man saying something about not pleading to your rapist, so I'll leave it at that.

"Indictable offence". This means that the evidence can go before a Grand Jury to issue an indictment right?

Children "complain" all the time and effect very little change in the hearts and minds of the adults they "complain" about.

Is the purpose of quoting the criminal code & informing the fucktard that they have broken a clubhouse rule to:

A. Actually pursue a conviction/appeal to the rapist?

Or

B. The same as slapping a growling dog on the nose & telling it to get back in its' box?

I doubt A is practical but B could be effective enough with corporate employees etc to tell them that they're ignorant/lying sacks of shit & that we are onto them & wont put up with their crap.

If they continue to pursue a matter (Bill of Exchange) that has already been dealt with, and they're knowingly committing an offence, then most corporate shitheads will probably back off...just my opinion.

They don't think that way, Stuart.

People who work for the Government, are in a cult. They work there, because they are useless in the real world. ALL of them KNOW this. The cult teaches them that they are "above" all of you, and it is their RIGHT to do what they do... even ignore the rules, for what THEY say is the "greater good".

Sad but true...

I was thinking about alleged credit card debt as one example that has been dealt with/discharged, but then assigned to a third party debt collector.

The debt collection agency has backed off as they can't prove any claim, but I'm always interested in tightening up and refining any administrative process & shutting down their harassment from the get go...hence the slap on the nose/back in your box reference above.

Third Party Collection Agencies are amateur hour; If you can't wrangle a buzzing parasite with no actual standing, you have no business doing ANY of this shit. :P

Think of the first call from a third-party collection agency as NOTICE that you've won.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/contract

I got my first debt collector to stand down a few weeks back. :-D

I had a collector call today. I told him I didn't buy back public debts. He said the debt in question was not a public debt. So I asked him how I could help administrate the thing. He said send cash? cheque ,or money order, or use a credit card. I told him I have no cheque accout no credit card and no money, then asked how i could discharge this debt via the persons surety. :-D. He told me the ONLY way was with MONEY. I asked him if i could have that in writing. He replied "we don't have letters like that" haha so I told him to write the letter and sign it under full commercial liability himself. He hung up on me. :-/

I had a free session with a lawyer today and total bullshit ,,,,MONEY ,,,MONEY ,, I says he can get these charges dropped I don't have to go to court but comes with a price $15k ,WOW ,, I said gee yeah no I think the cops are worst then a biker gang only different they drive on four wheels not two and THINK they have more power ,, they start there day by picking out someone who they like to fuck over and take his money, his life, his freedom . Im loosing my cool ,, I cant figure out this what to do ,,they got me by the balls . WOW

Actually Bikers are WAY better with stronger characters. Compare the number of people robbed, murdered, extorted, and assaulted, and I think you will find the "biker" numbers don;t dwarf the Government's.

You are very right ,, I was brought up in a biker family they respect the respected , and have loyal , But put a person in a cop car with power ,a badge, Gun and he has the freedom of speech over civil respecting people that never cause harm, I'm I right here ??

There : shows fuckin location Their : shows fuckin possession They're : shows who fuckin are

This shit annoys me too, and I'm a dumbass french token, or is that a title you have to diserve/own ??

Here is a question ,,,bill of exchange,,, Pete you talked about this I see ,,, so tell me ,would a WARRENT be a bill of EXCHANGE ,,??

WARRANT, and yes it is.

Warrant : a fuckin order Warrent : not a fuckin word ;)

SO if a Bill of exchange ''WARRANT'' Was Lost and had to be re-done ,and when re-done more added to it .? Im lost I don't understand what RCMP are saying when I called them

WHY ARE YOU CALLING THEM?

I called them a month ago I wanted to see what the warrants where for they told me my file was lost they had to redo it , I called them cause I wanted a copy of the warrant they will not send them to me .

They're not yours.

You have no rights to them.

STOP TALKING TO COPS! ANY COPS!

OK what about court house , MY DISCLOSER . So I no whats going on ,,

OMG.. IT'S NOT YOUR FUCKING DISCLOSURE. YOU REALLY WANT JOINDER? DID YOU EVEN READ MY LAST ARTICLE?

TAKE NOTHING FROM THEM. ALL OF IT IS JOINDER. IT CAN'T BE ANYTHING ELSE!

ACCEPT NOTHING FROM THE GOVERNMENT! NOTHING! IF THEY SEND YOU ANYTHING, RETURN IT.

IF THEY GIVE YOU ANYTHING (LIKE FUCKING DISCLOSURE) DO NOT ACCEPT!

Your thought process is WAY too programmed for this group. You are going to fuck up and go to jail if you don't start un-learning some shit quickly!

I understand that . I been doing a lot of reading and finding great info and from here with PETE , now this NOTICE OF MISTAKE ,, what if they have a copy of my pic or something.??

Seriously?

That question means you missed my last post. I'll say it again: Your thought process is WAY too programmed for this group. You are going to fuck up and go to jail if you don't start un-learning some shit quickly!

You seem a bit thick. Let me do it again. I really can't dumb things down to your level. It hurts me at THIS level. So pay attention:

Your thought process is WAY too programmed for this group. You are going to fuck up and go to jail if you don't start un-learning some shit quickly!

un-learning ?

David lets make it simple all gov`t issued documents belong to gov`t including the B/C so if its theirs and they can demand its return at any time they desire how could it ever possibly be you................HE WHO CREATES OWNS

You think a lot of shit is yours when it isn't. "What if they have my picture"? REALLY? If they ha A picture of you, IT'S THEIRS, NOT YOURS!

FOCUS ON REALITY!

OK REALTY , IF and when I go to court , I say my words BUT wouldn't be better before that to no what Evidence they have ,

Pete, where are you when I need you :(

This is all i got: Your thought process is WAY too programmed for this group. You are going to fuck up and go to jail if you don't start un-learning some shit quickly!

Dave they have no evidence against you only your person and what criminal intent could a pc of plastic possibly commit

Were YOU acting on behalf of the plastic?

David Grant read through all the posts initially focusing on Pete's...he shares the same message all the time about who he is....it will go against everything you've been taught....it is a MUST for you to recognize and comprehend.

Dave Dr William Demming father of SPC had this to say "If you always do ...what you have always done ...you always get ..what you have always got" it is like voting you think your going to make a difference by voting all you do is mark an X on a pc of paper ...most people believe they are exercising their voice to create change for the better .....so try it for 3 weeks and come back and tell us how your life has improved

"If you always do ...what you have always done ...you always get ..what you have always got" - So THAT'S why I get so much tail!

I understand what you are saying , BUT I am asking my first step ,,do I turn myself in then start the process or do nothing until I am pulled over then arrested , that's all I am asking

I don't think you do understand what is being said...you're first step is to learn who you are, because all steps that follow come from that foundation

David Grant, you most certainly do not understand ANYTHING in this thread THAT much is certain.

I know it feels crappy being in the situation you are in...and there is alot of fear.....which is why this is your first step...the fear is getting in the way of your learning and keeping you from focusing on what you need to be focused on

Dave lets start here are you afraid to be arrested

if so then you shouldn`t be here

Yes afraid cause I no how I will be treated , and yes fear is getting in the way of learning and staying Focus .

well if you want to let fear control you then your not ready.....................and depending on your charge you might want to take one for the team hire a snake and play their game.the only magic that comes into play is when you come into existence and appear in their court as your person.............. think for a second .....we are all an economic collapse of being home less every one of us, are you worried about that. where else are you going to find shelter and 3 meals a day other then prisonpeople will be trying to get arrestted just for that alone My advice is read read read and when its making you sick to your stomach read if you don`t understand the concept ask questions don`t be afraid to ask for help but try to grasp what your being told you can only control what you believe not what they believe to them your a slave just like in the civil war days read the Control ownership and determination act and while your doing that picture a field full of cotton waiting to be picked

Here's a way to work out who YOU are not:

If I take your birth certificate & punch it, stab it with a knife & set fire to it, do YOU get bruised, bleed or burned?

The obvious answer is NO because YOU are not the birth certificate.

YOU are not the name on the birth certificate.

In the same way, ALL documents such as passports, driver licences, Social Security Cards, Medicare cards etc are derived from the one foundational document, the Birth Certificate.

If YOU are not the Birth Certificate, then it is also impossible for YOU to be any document derived from the Birth Certificate...

So that is who YOU are not.

Look at the Birth Certificate:

Who created it? (On the one in my possession, it is the State of New South Wales Department of Births, Deaths and Marriages), says so right at the top.

Who is surety for that thing? A guy signed as surety, acting in the capacity of Registrar. (Not ME).

When was that document created (the one I have was created 19 days after I came into the world, so it can't be ME).

The state named that document in a very similar way to the name I use, and they sent it to ME.

As the holder of that Birth Certificate, and as the only (sole) person authorised to use it (administrate), my only possible role would be that of the Sole Authorised Administrator for the (entity) person that the government created 19 days after I was born.

In the past, I may have mistakenly assumed that person THEY (the government) created, was ME. That would be a mistake, so please forgive me.

The government (cops, court etc) often presumes that I am acting AS the person whereas I am acting FOR the person...that too would be a mistake, so please forgive me.

It's that mistake that is addressed in the Notice of Mistake, because THEY can only deal with entities of their own creation.

Hope that helps :D

Rick Hiltz your awesome I like what you say ,, FEAR yes not fear of getting arrested its the fear of what there going to do and ''TREAT"" me ,, been there in there play ground .

whats the charge

unlawful entry of a dwelling and I guess mischief.,,

David Grant you have been lied to. The Birth Certificate is not YOU. But it is yours. You can be BENEFICIARY of the NAME or you can be SURETY for the NAME. You've been taught to be SURETY by your slave masters. But you can be BENEFICIARY if you say so. And NO ONE can say any different. The birth certificate is a PERSON. Its not YOU. Its your PERSON. The government is SURETY for that PERSON. It says so on the document. But what "THEY" want is for you to be a good slave and accept SURETY. Why would you do that? It boils down to commercial contracts. My best advice for you at this point would be DON'T SIGN SHIT! And figure out what's being said here......

I read here every day , And yes I total understand what is be threw at me here and its all true , BUT I ask ,, I am willing to stand my grounds and prove the facts that I am learning , not yet but soon , BUT now I understand why that lawyer said don't send the letter ,,NOTICE OF MISTAKE , cause the meanings are TRUE and it takes BALLS to stand up for this person as being ME not the person stated on a piece of paper , BIRTH Cerificate.

Lawyers are officers of the court their duty is to the court and not the client.

You are a MAN. NOT A PERSON.

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:o

LOL - it just occurred to me. People must think they're getting a "DEAL" by only being charged $75 to file a claim at Small Claims court, and only a $100 if it goes to trial - LMFAO! :D

Wait for it..