Apr 22, 2014 4:07 PM

It's a trick statement. They do it all the time.

Remember that dipshit Derek Moran asking the crown what authority they had? The answer was "There's a memorandum of understanding". Derek BOUGHT it! It NEVER occurred to him to ask what that has to do with him!

CONSUMER "LAW" is PART OF COMMERCIAL LAW!

That's what makes your trip to the variety store for smokes, an act of COMMERCE. CONSUMERS are just a COMMERCIAL CLASSIFICATION.

That's the difference between RETAIL and WHOLESALE.

mhmmm...so this is just a trick, got it!!!

It's ALWAYS lies and tricks. ALWAYS.

When you run into that shit, just assume it's a lie.

WHO said that ?, Chris Evan :/

A few different people. and it SEEMS that the Peabody Municipal Light Plant is headed that way as well....

Why in the fuck they don't do ANYTHING with me ?

Is it because they never had to deal with this as of now ?, :/

This PMLP has sent the Person CHRIS a DEMAND FOR PAYMENT after 2 BoEs have been administrated. How can they DEMAND something that is illegal...

They are DEMANDING money of account, it's NOT illegal :P

What?

And you are administrating the debt via the surety of CHRIS, it's NOT illegal too... :D

You say: How can they DEMAND something that is illegal...

What makes you think it's ILLEGAL ?

Public Law 73-10, Executive order 6102....

I have no idea what you're talking about :(

(a) every provision contained in or made with respect to any obligation which purports to give the obligee a right to require payments in gold or a particular kind of coin or currency, or in an amount in money of the United States measured thereby, is declared to be against public policy; and no such provision shall be contained in or made with respect to any obligation hereafter incurred. Every obligation, heretofore or hereafter incurred, whether or not any such provision is contained therein or made with respect thereto, shall be discharged upon payment, dollar for dollar, in any coin or currency which at time of payment is legal tender for public and private debts. Any such provision contained in any law authorizing obligations to be issued by or under authority of the United States, is herby repealed, but the repeal of any such provision shall not invalidate any other provision or authority contained in such law.

Enlighten us, Pete.

I think this is a PERSON v. MAN thing....

Anyway, they are demanding a payment be made, but it has already been affected.

And what's MONEY OF ACCOUNT ? :D

No Chris, no PAYMENT has been made... :P

You've picked up a DEBT in CHRIS's mailbox .....RIGHT ?

I'll be back in 5 ;)

Ok, so now you have a PUBLIC debt in your hand, you have to decide if you want to buy back that debt, or not......I think your choice was NOT.

So you TELL THEM......sorry, as the sole authorized admin for that person, you've sent a PUBLIC DEBT to, I choose to NOT buy it back.

So please follow these simple step by step INSTRUCTIONS. (That's what administrator do, instruct :D )

So CHRIS is the drawer. Bank of Canada is the DRAWEE PLMP is the BENEFICIARY.

So as the SOLE authorized administrator for the person, I have completed that BILL OF EXCHANGE you've supplied with that public debt, for PLMP to present it to the DRAWEE, which is BLABLABLA.....

It is YOUR obligation to PRESENT that completed instrument to the PAYMENT, if you do not, it will automatically relief CHRIS and BANK OF CANADA from that PUBLIC DEBT

Have fun

AUTHORIZED BY: The Sole Authorized Admin.

If they IGNORE, or just keep asking for PAYMENT, you just have to stick to what you've done.....and tell them you will have to start BILLING for your time....

Chris, perhaps the key is WHO is the United States equivalent to Bank of Canada?

Federal Federal Reserve

I just wonder HOW can it be the Federal Reserve ? , is this place not a PRIVATE place ? :/

The SURETY of CHRIS should be in a PUBLIC place, I would think

Oh....I guess I don't know what the BoC is in relation to Canada then....here is what I wrote:

That PUBLIC debt, comes from the PUBLIC, and was sent to a PUBLIC person....

"So to summarize the operation of this Bill, the City of Peabody is the Beneficiary, The Bank of the State is the Drawee and the person named CHRISTOPHER E. SCHULTE, bearing the registration number 492xxxxx, located at 300 xxxx Street, Peabody, MA 01960 is the Drawer."

The back of the BoE said "Payable on Demand at the Treasury Department"

Where/who is The Bank of the State ?

I don't know.

And you should give this Peabody thing some "consideration" :)

You have to FIND OUT !!!! :/

Bank of Canada has a different status due to Prime Minister McKenzie King in 1938 nationalising the thing. http://prudentpress.com/finance/history-bank-of-canada/ The effects of King’s decision would last all the way until 1974, when the Trudeau government made the decision to halt the borrowing of money from the Bank of Canada, and instead, choosing to borrow from the private banks at COMPOUNDED interest.

Oh fuck, I will have to shower :D

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

See, this is the confusion for us Pete. Fed Reserve System is NOT for us to use and we can make no demands of it.

IT'S THE US FEDERAL RESERVE, YOU DIPSHITS!

Look for WHO ISSUES THE CA$H

So then, that would be a defect...which I asked to be notified of....and wasn't

Scott, so in Pete's example, the DRAWEE is the Federal Reserve?

WHAT'S MONEY OF ACCOUNT PLEASE ? :)

Chris Evan and Sue Rakestraw ? :)

Hellos ?? :(

money of account n. A monetary unit in which accounts are kept and that may or may not correspond to actual current denominations.

ACCOUNTING money :D

It's debt that can only buy OTHER debt.

A cookie for Sco......oh wait :/ ...

So they are INVITING you with AGGRESSIVITY, to BUY back that debt with a type of money that has been SPECIFICALLY made for that purpose, Chris Evan :D

http://ca.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idCABREA3L1FC20140422

And you and Sue Rakestraw, forces me to PRESUME that you didn't know what was Money of ACCOUNT :(

Here is what I am working on: (still a draft)

You have received two completed Bills of Exchange for this Account (March 26, 2014 and April 16, 2014), each with an instruction letter. It seems as though neither were credited to the Account.

There has been no Notice of Dishonor, nor Notice that the Bills had a defect. If there was a Notice of Dishonor or if there is a defect in the Instruments please send Notice so the matter(s) can be addressed. [Exhibit A, attached, is a copy of the instructions for the last Bill that was completed and sent back.]

You have sent a DEMAND FOR PAYMENT and based on my experience with PMLP; a SHUT OFF NOTICE will follow this. I wish to remain honorable and help settle this matter.

First, payment has been presented and accepted. I have received two signed Receipts indicating acceptance. You, Glenn Trueira, are now DEMANDING more payment and I am not sure why. Would you please tell me why you are making these demands?

With integrity and sincerity,

By: __________________________ Sole Authorized Administrator and Beneficiary of CHRISTOPHER E. SCHULTE birth registration #: 492xxxxx

Without Recourse, All rights reserved

First, payment has been presented and accepted. ??? :/

Why do you use that word ? ....

What word would you use?

You sent back a COMPLETED bill of EXCHANGE....not a fucking payment !!!!

AWESOME!!!! corrected!!!

*sniff*

They grow up so quickly. :(

:D

You, Glenn Trueira, are now DEMANDING more payment but I have clearly said, I DON'T WANT TO BUY YOUR FUCKING DEBT :D

I AM NOT IN THE "BUYER" mood for now :D

MONEY OF ACCOUNT CAN ONLY BUY OTHER DEBT.

MONEY OF ACCOUNT *IS* DEBT

THEREFORE, MONEY OF ACCOUNT CAN ONLY BUY MORE MONEY OF ACCOUNT.

Be advise that if I need to ADMINISTRATE this matter over and over and over, because you are INCOMPETENT, and/or in bad faith, and/or have already spent that money before I made a decision if I wanted to buy the debt or not, I will have no other choice than to CHARGE you.

:D

^^^I have already told him that

You can't fix stupid, Chris.

You can BILL stupid though :D

And Chris Evan, don't FORGET to give them "consideration" !!

Do you know what I am talking about Chris ?

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Valuable+consideration

Chris Evan ?? :/

CCCHHHRRIIIISSSSSS.... !!!!!!.....hellosss !!!

I do not want to buy back the Verizon public debt this month. As administrator for SUE RAKESTRAW, I will complete their attached Bill of Exchange along with an instruction sheet and send via Registered Mail. I will review Pete's video again prior to mailing. :)

Oh yes, that video is awesome :D

FFS....I had a phone call

But WHAT could you "GIVE" them as CONSIDERATION ? :)

Hellossss !!!

a signature

NO

:-/

Give them a Promise.

The fucking BIRTH CERTIFICATE :P

A discount :p

Shit!!!!!!!!!!!

HEELLLOOOOOSSSS!!! :D

Ha! Promise to give them a discount :p

I do not know what you are talking about Pete Daoust, with the consideration part of the B o E . I have missed that. Care to aid me once again?

*sniff*

...so very quickly. :(

That thing has a SIGNATURE on it, and that signature = SURETY

It's pretty VALUABLE, as a "consideration" :P

A copy?

A certified COPY

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/billofexchange.asp

I have a HUGE stack of them :D

I have them EVERYWHERE :D

OH HEY, me too. Liened the shit out of them too! :D

Certified copies from Vital Statistics or from a Notary?

What ? :/

What kind of certified copies?

He's `Murickan.

Here, we have certified copies made at a notary or have a certified copy of a vital record....

The creator can only certify it yes?

Holy fuck, I only know one kind, a certified kind :P

Chris, you order the long form certified.

Who the fuck certified it?

The NOTARY made the stack I have... :/

Sue, I have those....just asking questions....

Thanks....was it so fucking hard to say that? :-P

That, in effect, is the same process as depositing the certified copy of the B/C with the courts when charges are being brought against the PERSON, I saw Michael A Rivera did that. thanks Pete Daoust!

And don't forget to add, on your communication to them:

IF YOU CUT THE SERVICE, I WILL HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE THAN TO ADMINISTRATE THIS MATTER AS AN ILLEGAL ACT FROM YOUR PART

YOU CAN'T CUT THE SERVICE, BECAUSE THE DEBT HAS BEEN CORRECTLY ADMINISTRATED......FUCK OFF WITH YOUR FUCKING THREATS :p

Oppsss, sorry for the all caps shit :/

some 15 months ago, SURETY was explained by Scott Duncan in here ( I fucked it up a bit but... ) I had a $20 bill, a check and the birth certificate on my desk....and it turned out that these three thing was exactly the same thing.

So by GIVING them a certified copy of that birth certificate, I give them LOTS OF CONSIDERATION :D

Would the corporate seal suffice on a copy of the birth certificate or it must be a notary?

"As the SURETY BOND (BIRTH CERTIFICATE) has been deposited into the COURT [In the custody of Justice Wailan Low, ONTARIO SUPERIOR COURT OF JUSTICE: Court File Number CV-11-430464]"

Scott Duncan, is this permanently deposited there? Has this Justice Low been appointed trustee in all matters?

Notary, Gail Marie, that would be my call :)

But Pete, I can't make a certified copy of a $20 bill and expect that to be consideration

nor a check

You don't need to, idiot :P

I recently looked into getting a certified copy of the BC....one notary was charging $75.00 for certified copies....$50 dollars for notarizing affidavits etc

Chris I asked that question about a yr ago...

"Does Walmart keep the coupons when you use them?"

was the response from the big fla...

Come on Pete Daoust administrate that shit too! Affidavit that I put that thing in a copier and pushed the green button and took a copy out and here it is for you!

Fuck...did you call Walmart and ask them?

I have made 30 of the BC, 30 of the ACT of BIRTH, 30 of the Life Birth shit thing, and 30 of the first affidavit I had made (I throw that one in the garbage :D ) for a floppy $125.00 :D

No, I asked the question you asked up there and Scott replied with that as an answer... I would imagine they do keep the coupons... I think Beverly was in that conversation at the time also...

its a cash cow business now and they are milking it...liars pfft

I just found out that "they dont we send them to be credited to walmarts account"

Tommy Atherton, techno lies http://www.dkriesel.com/en/blog/2013/0802_xerox-workcentres_are_switching_written_numbers_when_scanning

The coupons walmart receives if Im not mistaken they will send them back to the originating companies for credit to their account

I DON'T FUCKING CARE what they do with it......they can wipe their ass with it, if they want :P

Does that mean you have a certified (notarized) hard copy that you print copies of when needed?

Oh man... :(

Yes Gail Marie...for the vendors accounting. But if Walmart issues a coupon, its for their internal accounting....I get this now

Pete it's being brought up for understanding ...not that anyone really cares what Walmart processes are specifically

There ya go...

Are copies of a notarized certified copy all we need? ie get one cc of the BC and just take copies of it to use?

Irish BC's show up with a large red "INVALID" when copied... To prevent fraud as it's a valuable instrument :D

You go to the Notary, you tell him/her, I will give you $100 if you make 40 copies of this, and you put your fucking seal on each of them :D

Hey, my BC from the State says, "FOR MEDICAL AND HEALTH USE ONLY".....wth?

They cost £10 from the registrar and £5 for more copies if requested

Don't work harder work smarter: http://chicagowatermark.com/?gclid=CMT17rz19L0CFUoV7AodxkAAlw

http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop.html

Are three witnesses signatures not the same as a Notary signature?

"It is illegal to alter or reproduce this document in any manner"

So you guys want to know what they do with the BC ? ....I know what they do with it :P

It was illegal in the first place...

they deposit the MF..

Send it back to the bank to credit their account? :D

"MF"?? mother fucker?

// ding ding ding

They keep it, as consideration received :D

ok....So, I have corrected the notice. I now tell them that there is a valuable consideration enclosed...a SURETY BOND. anything else?

Share it again, please !

MESSEM TRUST owns A giant lien & proof of claim against A PERSON, MESSEM HOLDING CORP. administrates the MESSEM TRUST and has appointed CONTINUING MANDAMUS INC. to deal with any affairs of these parties... FYI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuing_Mandamus

That looks so complicated, Jason Moreland :D

I'm not in commerce... EVER

How could you be ? :/

How in the fuck, a MAN can be IN COMMERCE ?

You should see the look on the clerks face when CONTINUING MANDAMUS INC. is filing liens...

Who me? I'm not a You

the look on the clerks face ? :/ they all have the SAME look to me !

lol

If I were to strip you down, Pierre, and then get a SHARPIE and write on you so you are a BILL OF EXCHANGE, and I walked you to the BANK OF CANADA, and "Deposited" you... THEN a man can be in commerce :D

EVERYTHING is possible, LEGALLY :D

Make a video of that Pete! :p

They have to ACCEPT the DEPOSIT.... I'm not sure if the tellers could handle that one...

haha get that on video :P

Smokin away cursing that he can't get the words out... Priceless...

Maybe JACKASS will make another movie & you guys can do it....

If they don't accept, I'll leave their naked french bill of echange there, accepted or not!

I'm not feeding their useless bill of exchange! Why would I want to BUY THAT DEBT? :D

There is 272 hits on that youtube :D

This is a perfect example of a TIPS Auction: http://www.treasurydirect.gov/instit/marketables/tips/tips.htm

Seriously, I'm trapped down here with 315 million morons and its not getting any better... 1/2 of which refuse to work...

I admit I would look AWESOME turned into a BILL OF EXCHANGE.... :D I can see all the rubber stamps on my body.... WOW, MUCH SEXY, SO VALUABLE, :D

haha...potential marketing technique for a seminar you put on Pete Daoust

You sure it's not 350 millions ?, Jason :/

DUE COURSE. It matters not if the BANK OF CANADA actually ACCEPTS the bill of exchange in question, it has run its DUE COURSE as far as you are concerned.

Oh, I forgot to mention, there is a bunch of very pissed off new fucktards administrator in Quebec City, really mad fucktards, they want me to go there to teach them one thing or two ! :/

They should have paid with a naked Quebecois. Fucking amateurs.

I'm sorry to ask this question...I'm obviously requiring to be spoon fed..... On my BoE's I've stamped on them "Department of Treasury" instead of “Bank of Canada”. So I screwed up?? I should have stamped “US Federal Reserve”? The functions of the Department of Treasury are: Producing all currency, coinage and postage stamps of the U.S.; Collecting taxes, duties and money paid to and due to the U.S.:

PAYING ALL BILLS OF THE US

Managing the federal finances; Managing government accounts and the United States public debt; Supervising national banks and thrift institutions; Advising on domestic and international financial, monetary, economic, trade and tax policy (fiscal policy being the sum of these, and the ultimate responsibility of Congress); Enforcing federal finance and tax laws; Investigating and prosecuting tax evaders; Publishing statistical reports.

Pete Daoust's time is VALUABLE. Are they going to PAY him for his teachings?

I really think that sort of thing should be enforced.

Pete will GIVE everything for FREE :P

The GOVT enforces for their time....

*sniff*

I will bring my OWN MAMWICH....

...they grow up so fast. :(

Seriously. That naild it. You REALLY DO understand. :D

Well, administrate close to $5 millions in one shot and bring that global public debt down, is a heck of a CONSIDERATION for Pete, and his kids :P

"DUE COURSE. It matters not if the BANK OF CANADA actually ACCEPTS the bill of exchange in question, it has run its DUE COURSE as far as you are concerned."

I am not understanding this

Let it sink in.

Bank of Canada's job is NOT to ACCEPT the Bill, it is to DISCHARGE the debt on that bill... :P

Bank of Canada is like a HUGE waste yard :D

I am pretty sure that this is where Adam would pipe in with something like: Acceptance is in the mail

The Acceptance is the receipt we got back from the Post Office...?

DISCHARGE !!! :D

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/CpXy4CxNr5I/0.jpg

should we be sending the original boe there and copies to say the utility company?

I returned a completed one back to the payee. Haven't heard anymore since. 3 months ago now...

You send the COMPLETED BoE to the beneficiary, with CLEAR and ACCURATE "INSTRUCTIONS" Gail Marie

Bobis Youruncle

ok thank you captain for that clarification

^^ Pretty much :p

INSTRUCTIONS :P

Not demands, or maybes, or I would like to, or please would you, or my grandma has a small clitoris, or I have a sm....nah, forget about that one, ....

An "authoritative statement" :D

A fucking SERMON :D

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! :D

Eli Weakley good thread, check it out.

Jason, please stop writing in NASA style :D

Good Thread Pete Daoust..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Me3WuLYHilo

A year ago, my duty ( I had only one) was to make these CSIS agents go CRAZY in here, today, one of my duties ( I have more than one now) is to make sure ALL agents goes nuts :D

Muhahahahahahahaha!!!!! :D

(But if only I could make one of these agents, quit his job and start PRODUCING something with his life, that would be a great thrill !! :( )

That's Chris's thread, Jason :P

Here it is Pete

April 22, 2014

TO: Glenn Trueira c/o PMLP 201 Warren St. Ext. Peabody, MA 01960

Re: Account number 968219 Meter number 34520 Bills of Exchange

Registered Mail #:

ALL RIGHTS RESERVED / WITHOUT PREJUDICE

Glenn Trueira,

You have received two completed Bills of Exchange each with an instruction letter for this Account (March 26, 2014 and April 16, 2014) evidenced by the two signed Domestic Return Receipts indicating acceptance. It seems as though neither were credited to the Account.

You, Glenn Trueira, are now DEMANDING more payment but I have clearly said, I do not wish to buy your Public Debt. There has been no Notice of Dishonor, nor Notice that the Bills had a defect.

It is YOUR obligation to PRESENT that completed instrument to the Drawee, the Federal Reserve Bank. If you do not, it will be a dishonor and relieve CHRIS and The Federal Reserve Bank from that PUBLIC DEBT.

As I have asserted before, the SURETY for CHRISTOPHER E SCHULTE is the State of MASSACHUSETTS, enclosed is the valuable consideration (Birth Certificate) with their signature on it.

With integrity and sincerity,

By: __________________________ Sole Authorized Administrator and Beneficiary of CHRISTOPHER E. SCHULTE birth registration #: 492xxxxx

Without Recourse, All rights reserved

TAKE NOTICE: If I need to ADMINISTRATE this matter again because you are acting in bad faith and/or have already spent that money before I made a decision if I wanted to buy the debt or not, I will have no other choice than to CHARGE you. IF YOU CUT THE SERVICE, I WILL HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE THAN TO ADMINISTRATE THIS MATTER AS AN ILLEGAL ACT ON YOUR PART BECAUSE THE DEBT HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADMINISTRATED.

the "US" Federal Reserve Bank ....just in case it creates confusion ;)

These fucktard are some professional kind of fucktards......do not underestimate them :D

As a VALUABLE consideration, I OFFER you CHRIS surety bond, (birth certificate) :P

If I am offering a surety bond, shouldn't it be on bond paper?

I am offering you a CERTIFIED COPY of.... :P

If its not fun, you are doing it wrong....I am not having fun....honestly!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If it's HARD, you are doing it wrong......

Ok....well it has been hard too!

I think the word "fun" was on one of Dean Clifford saying....no ? :/

Dean: If its not fun, you are doing it wrong. Scott: If its hard, you are doing it wrong.

Is that correct ?? ^^^^

Yes...I think that is correct!

Jail is NOT FUN!. He's doing it wrong! :D

Dean's Aylmer video: YOU GOTTA HAVE FUN DOING THIS SHIT....

That's what happen when you assist to lots of seminars Chris, you misplace words from one to another :D

Holy shit Jason, aren't you in the "MOVEMENT" ? :D

What "MOVEMENT" ?

I just had a BOWEL MOVEMENT about half an hour ago. Is that what you're talking about?

How do you even know I'm even TAKING a dump, that you think you are qualified to discuss it?

Oh yeah, I LOVE these type of discussion, I have to.... :P

You can take the guy out of the token, but you will never take out the token from the guy.........something like that !! :/

The person named Dean Clifford seems to be it, but Dean, the Man, accept SURETY for the person.....so there is that ! :/

Just got out of Tim Horton, the lady was throwing bagels/donuts in the garbage, I said BANKRUPCY ?, she laugh and said, we have to get rid of them after 8 hours :O I said HO, DISCHARGE ? she said what? :-D true story guys :-D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V7zdcSBRjQ

Just clearin' that up...

:-D

is Deaner receiving his mail or updates on his facebook status? The sQuatloos' speculate he's racking up time and a half then after two years, he can sue for lack of due process and not ensuring a speedy trial.

Oh yes, with bananas.... :-P

Is he on the potassium only diet?

racking up time, this is somewhat, a fucked up idea... :D

Working for TIMEX would be a better idea :D

It's all Accounting... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeuRAWSJGFY

:D Lets "rack up time" folks :D http://1.bp.blogspot.com/---YEGzSDH3w/Tv1ifQ4Ld-I/AAAAAAAAQ0k/2J7hSE50_Ag/s1600/IMG_6065.JPG

Probably has one of these in HYPER-DRIVE....

Rack up some timex butthurt //www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFtHjV4c4uw

Pre-sentence time is counted at double time served. Provincial court can dick him around for 2 years less a day before they have to release him or convict him. At which point he will have served the equivalent of a 12 year sentence. After factoring under a federal sentence of over 2 years he is eligible for parole after a third of his time served. 2 years @ double time = 4 years = 1/3 of 12 years.

sentence n. the punishment given to a person convicted of a crime.

So Dean, is DEFINITELY a PERSON ? :/

Do you have CONTACTS with Dean, Andrew Ofthe RoyalHouse Aragon ?

Nope

Of course I should qualify my original factum, they are not playing by their own rules, so what I wrote could reasonable in the past be seen as worst case scenario. Now? all bets are off!

So the detainment is NOT custodial in nature?

"Fortress of Remand." It sounds innocent, and shit. Like a place filled with bananas, fresh fruit and hammocks...

And PERSONS :/

IN-surety

Dean, the Man, is acting as INSURANCE for his PERSON. Acting as SURETY. I cannot get over it. Why? :/

There is NO Dean the MAN, there is a PERSON named DEAN CLIFFORD in that cage...

A fucking slave :-(

I'm pretty sure it's the man inside that cage, Pete. That's reality. :(

No man can end up in a LEGAL CAGE :-\

Instead of being a lonely PERSON in that LEGAL cage, he could have been in one of AQUILAE's ROYAL cage, and be abused by weaponized women, like Ceit Butler :-D

And/or carp food.

Yeah that chilled any possible enthusiasm I may have developed for VOLUNTEERING.

Which part, the proposed abuse from women...or being carp food? :D

Being carp food. That's not something I'd like to experience!

By sending a Certified Copy of the BC to a Public Servant via Registered Mail, does this appoint them trustee of the discharge? Is this what is meant by "run its DUE COURSE"? Until they send back the BC Registered Mail, they are the HOLDER for that PERSON in THAT matter?

NNNOOOOO !!!! :(

ok....what does this DUE COURSE mean then?

Momentary :D

For the moment :P

I told you yesterday, by sending the BC, you give them CONSIDERATION......what the fuck is wrong with you ? :D

Well...quite a bit, but that is not what this forum is for. :-D

Hasn't Scott mentioned about sending an Affidavit of Affirmation 'affirming' to them that you have basically 'received' the BC to begin with, first?

I don't know that we have ever really gotten answers on this Affidavit of Affirmations

And what was the QUESTION, in regards to this Affidavit of Affirmations ? :D

I have a DRAFT of an affidavit of affirmation. Chop it up, kids!

COMMONWEALTH OF PUERTO RICO ) ss MUNICIPALITY OF XXXXXXXXXXXXXX

AFFIDAVIT of AFFIRMATION

Comes now, I and/or ME and/or MYSELF, to tell the truth to the facts related herein states that I have firsthand knowledge of the facts stated herein and believes these facts to be true to the best of my knowledge:

1. I am ME. 2. I am not YOU. 3. My name is not of anyone's business. 4. I am not a LEGAL NAME. 5. I am NOT a NATURAL PERSON, and/or a PERSON of any kind. 7. I waive the right to be recognized as a PERSON, and/or a LEGAL PERSON, and/or a NATUTAL PERSON, under the law. 6. I DO NOT OWN any PERSON/S. 8. I am the SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR for XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX, BIRTH CERTIFICATE and/or SURETY BOND/PUBLIC RECORD # 152-XXXXXXXXXXXXX, with REGISTRATION DATE of XX APRIL XXXX. 9. I am NOT XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX. 10. I am NOT SURETY for XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX. 11. PROOF of who is SURETY for XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX, surety being the GOBIERNO DE PUERTO RICO/GOVERNMENT OF PUERTO RICO, is provided in exhibit A, a BIRTH CERTIFICATE and/or SURETY BOND/PUBLIC RECORD # 152-XXXXXXXXXXXXXX with REGISTRATION DATE of XX APRIL XXXX. 12. I, as a MAN, am not lawfully entitled to the BENEFITS of a BIRTH CERTIFICATE. 13. I am not an OFFICER, and/or a government AGENT, and/or a TRUSTEE, and/or a Government EMPLOYEE of the CROWN and/or THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and/or ESTADO LIBRE ASOCIADO DE PUERTO RICO and/or GOBIERNO DE PUERTO RICO . 14. I am NOT a SLAVE to ANYONE. 15. I DO NOT CONSENT to either slavery, and/or involuntary servitude. 16. All the administration done for the legal name XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX is subject to FEES. 17. I do not consent to be governed, other than by ME, AND/OR MY own free will. 16. I do not recognize and/or authorize ANY authority outside of ME. 18. There is no authority to attach any LEGAL NAME, and/or ANY information, derived from a public document to ME. 19. I will NOT buy back any public debt that comes under the legal name XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX, and or account # XXX-XX-XXXX.. 20. As the SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR for XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX, BIRTH CERTIFICATE and/or SURETY BOND/PUBLIC RECORD # 152-XXXXXXXXXXXXX, with REGISTRATION DATE of XX APRIL XXXX, I will only ADMINISTRATE these public debts, and send them back to its beneficiary, so they can be presented to THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK and/or to which ever pertinent party, for complete discharge.

Further, I sayeth naught.

_____________________________ ____________________________ Signature Date

Commonwealth of Puerto Rico Municipality of XXXXXXX Subscribed and sworn to (or affirmed) before me on this ___day of ___________, 2014 I and/or ME and /or MYSELF, proved to me on the basis of satisfactory evidence to be the MAN who appeared before me. __________________________________ (Seal) XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Notary Public

Maybe it was a typo, maybe he wanted to say: AFFIDAVIT or AFFIRMATION :D

Affirmation

A solemn and formal declaration of the truth of a statement, such as an Affidavit or the actual or prospective testimony of a witness or a party that takes the place of an oath. An affirmation is also used when a person cannot take an oath because of religious convictions.

:D

http://www.ehow.com/how_6825195_affirm-affidavit.html

An affidavit or affirmation is a statement of facts made by a person under oath. Generally, this is the means by which the parties or their witnesses submit evidence to the court during the hearing of an interlocutory application (or other kinds of application).

A Catholic or a Christian should make affidavits. People of other religious beliefs or no religious belief should make affirmations.

:P

http://www.hkclic.org/en/topics/civilCase/commencement_of_trial/q2.shtml

But there's so many stuff available online in regards to this stuff !! :/

Basically is an affidavit of the truth sworn, and signed under seal of a notary. That's what I get.

Oh, and ADMINISTRATORS love to tell the truth. :D Why is no one liking my affidavit? :/ Is about the truth, I tell no lies. :)

Affidavit of Affirmation seems redundant....Like an Affidavit of Truth or an Affidavit of Facts. Yeah...no kidding...its an Affidavit.

I said last time we discussed this I said that maybe it was a typo....

Here is the one I have made :D HAHAHAHA!!!!

AFFIDAVIT

Je, soussigné, Pierre Daoust, numéro d’enregistrement d’une naissance vivante 11XXXX, résidant au 12XXX rue , Mirabel, état du Québec, déclare solennellement ce qui suit :

1. Je suis le seul administrateur autorisé pour la Personne nommée PIERRE DAOUST, NAS : 26X-XXX-XXX, et numéro d’inscription : 119XXXXXXXXXX

2. Je suis le seul Bénéficiaire pour la Personne nommée PIERRE DAOUST, NAS :26X-XXX-XXX, et numéro d’inscription: 119XXXXXXXXXX.

3. Je suis le seul à prendre des décisions pour toutes affaires commerciales concernant la Personne nommée PIERRE DAOUST, NAS:26X-XXX-XXX, et numéro d’inscription : 119XXXXXXXXXX

4. Je suis un Homme vivant, tel que le prouve l’enregistrement d’une naissance vivante no. 11XXXX.

5. Je suis né le 19 Février 1966, tel que le prouve l’enregistrement d’une naissance vivante no. 11XXXX.

6. La personne nommée PIERRE DAOUST, ayant le no. d’inscription 119XXXXXXXXXX, est née le 6 Mars 1966, tel que le prouve l’acte de naissance no. D12XXXXX-XX

7. Je ne suis PAS cette personne nommée PIERRE DAOUST, NAS : 26X-XXX-XXX, et numéro d’inscription: 119XXXXXXXXXX, mais J’AI cette personne, donc, je ne suis pas la SÛRETÉ de PIERRE DAOUST, NAS : 26X-XXX-XXX, et numéro d’inscription: 119XXXXXXXXXX.

8. Tous les faits mentionnés à la présente, sont vrais.

En foi de quoi, j'ai signé, à Mirabel. ce 24 Février 2013.

_____________________________ Seul Administrateur Autorisé pour : PIERRE DAOUST 26X-XXX-XXX

Témoin :_______________________

Témoin :_______________________

:D

:-) 24 Fevrier 2013? You sent this then?

A few, yes :/

A few? to who?

It was NOT exactly like this one.....this is a template, I adjusted a few things.....

Hydro-Quebec, and QRA.....

The surety was not as clear, at that time......so I haven't really mentionned it......

I like mine better. :P

:D

And I was NOT the Sole Authorized Administrator at that time, I don't remember what I was, I think I was the MASTER of PIERRE DAOUST, or something like that :D

Oh, :-o While searching my notes, I felt on this :D (Nov. 13th 2013)

Seriously, you people just make shit up as you go.

I'll dumb it down. Stop making shit-stains and pulling crap out of your ass.

JOHN SCOTT DUNCAN was created by 2 "Citizens" and ratified by the government, and GIVEN to ME.

I DO NOT CONSENT, AND WAIVE THE BENEFIT, but it is still "mine" because I am the only VALUE to this constructive trust.

I AM NOT A PERSON, I HAVE A PERSON, but it's NOT MINE. I cannot claim it outside the jurisdiction.

I CREATE A PERSON named ROGUESUPPORT INC, who ACTS AS TRUSTEE and SECURES the name for MY benefit, in a TRUST.

"trustee in the common law territory" or any such bullshit. It really is that simple.

STOP MAKING SHIT UP!

ratify v. to confirm and adopt the act of another even though it was not approved beforehand. Example: An employee for Holsinger's Hardware orders carpentry equipment from Phillips Screws and Nails although the employee was not authorized to buy anything. The president of Holsinger's ratifies the deal when Phillips delivers the order. A person under the legal age who makes a contract, may ratify the contract when he/she reaches majority (usually 18) or may refuse to honor it without obligation

Scottisms, gold nuggets and Pete's First edition warrant consideration as valuable entries. Simudrones attack. ://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/topics/topic_legal.html

Guess who isn't accepting Bills of Exchange?

?

God ? :/

Peabody Municipal Light Plant

I would send a BoE to God....sure

Tell me more !! :)

CHRIS received a shut off notice today

poor Pete...wants this action and he is the only one who doesn't get it

PIERRE received 4 or 5 of these :/

I am searching the clubhouse rules looking for the punishment for concealment.... :-D

Per UCC: 800 times the amount billed...

where?

NOW, Chris Evan, you need to write to them, IF YOU CUT THAT SERVICE, YOU WILL BE COMMITING AN ILLEGAL ACT, AND I WILL HAVE TO ADMINISTRATE THIS MATTER AT A HIGHER SCALE , that's what I wrote to them, and they stopped :/

I know....I am looking for their wording

Chris, phone them... BOMBARD WITH QUESTIONS (and record it)

But Chris, WHY you say : "Guess who isn't accepting Bills of Exchange?"

Jason Moreland, please stop that :D

UNLIKE ^^^

hmmm....maybe its because I didn't refer to UCC 3-104. Maybe these idiots can't figure it out.

Phone — Bombard — Record Chris

Berta WHO did you bombard with questions? CFO?

especially with a notice like that

I think PMLP has a Director. His name is Glenn Trueira. :-D

Call the number on the notice... if they don't "get it" ask for someone who is familiar with negotiable instruments and the like

They are THREATENING YOU... you don't have time for letters... :/

But I see this consideration thing now:

(b) “Consideration” means any consideration sufficient to support a simple contract. The drawer or maker of an instrument has a defense if the instrument is issued without consideration. If an instrument is issued for a promise of performance, the issuer has a defense to the extent performance of the promise is due and the promise has not been performed. If an instrument is issued for value as stated in subsection (a), the instrument is also issued for consideration.

Regardless...I doubt these idiots will figure that out.

What? And where does it state that it is LEGAL to pay a debt with a debt?

I wish I could help you more Chris, but I am not familiar with your stuff in USA, Where does it says in the USA that you have the right to the security/surety of THE person ?

I have not seen that

Oh :/

there is this:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_of_person

Fuck sakes, really? How bout "He who creates a liability must supply the remedy?

:D

The fucking SECURITY/SURETY of the person is the fact that you can MONETIZE that person, and use that SURETY/SECURITY to DISCHARGE public debts, sent to THAT person.......That is WHAT you are doing by COMPLETING these bill of exchange....

You are telling them, HEY, go see the US FEDERAL RESERVE, where is the SECURITY/SURETY, and they will use it to DISCHARGE that public debt

WHY ??, because I HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO IT :D

http://www.oas.org/en/iachr/mandate/Basics/declaration.asp

If they REFUSE this to you, the Man, they are commiting an ILLEGAL ACT :P

Article I. Every human being has the right to life, liberty and the security of his person

Fuck, if this is not clear enough, that you have the right to the "security" of YOUR person, I don't know what could be :D

:D

This article 1, is telling you RIGHT IN YOUR FACE, that you "HAVE" a person :D

of his person, of his person, of his person :D

And Chris... WHY IS THERE A SECURITY OF A PERSON? Why?

TO DISCHARGE DEBT :D , and because they are creating debts, and put that stupid person IN collateral, so there has to be a surety/security......and the Man is the fucking CREDITOR of that shit :D

What is this OAS?

No Men = No Persons = No surety/Security = No debts + No fuckall :P

Cause some dudes took it upon themselves to "handle things" for you... :/

The GOVERNMENT created a LIABILITY when they created the PERSON & pledged future labor & earning capacity as collateral as SURETY?

Something like that Jason Moreland :D

:D

Chris Evan, listen to me.....

You picked up a public debt in CHRIS'S mailbox

You decide you don't want to buy it

So you can't pay for it, because you need to BUY before you PAY....

You have completed this Bill of Exchange, for them to present that COMPLETED BoE, where the SURETY/SECURITY is, at US FED RESERVE.

So the SURETY of CHRIS can take care of that debt

So they have the OBLIGATION to present that completed BoE there...

You have the RIGHT to do this, they need to know all that, and if they think that you don't have the right to do this, ask them to tell you this IN WRITING....

And tell them to stop these stupid threats, it's childish and ILLEGAL.

:P

Remember, all "legal" is public... Consideration on a private debt is not the same... But a private claim can be taken into the public (court).

You require a PERSON to get power/water/gas or bank account...

Telephone... etc

Do you get it Chris ? :/

:)

yes I get it. Now...communicating it to these idiots....thats different

But Chris, if I want your Purple Door... I guess I have to PURCHASE it... :D

TELL THEM LIKE IT IS.....no fancy shit, just like it is :)

not tell, QUESTIONS

They are NOT refusing this process Chris Evan, they are TESTING you, .....now you have the ball in your hands, you need to throw them that ball back, filled with crazy glue on it :D

:D

Bombard and Questions comes to mind...

FIRMS INSTRUCTIONS comes to MY mind :D

you are flailing because you doubt yourself and your programming keeps tickling you... But its all right there in writing! Question those things...

Who's failing ? :/

Chris... he's confusing himself...

i just read the declaration of human rights in Dutch, and where the word security is, it's translated to "onschendbaarheid" wich when translated would mean "immunity or untouchable" :/ confused here ...

Ok, so I'll repeat, Chris, LISTEN TO ME :D

listen to me.....

You picked up a public debt in CHRIS'S mailbox

You decide you don't want to buy it

So you can't pay for it, because you need to BUY before you PAY....

You have completed this Bill of Exchange, for them to present that COMPLETED BoE, where the SURETY/SECURITY is, at US FED RESERVE.

So the SURETY of CHRIS can take care of that debt

So they have the OBLIGATION to present that completed BoE there...

You have the RIGHT to do this, they need to know all that, and if they think that you don't have the right to do this, ask them to tell you this IN WRITING....

And tell them to stop these stupid threats, it's childish and ILLEGAL.

Who is flailing?

I am not worried about this.

I was looking for that paint color....I think it is C2 Mulberry!

OH FUCK !!! "IMMUNITY" :-o That is fucking great !!! :D

not as good as untouchable though

We live in a LEGAL world, right ? ....every one is OK with this ?

Are we or not, living in a LEGAL world ?

yes we are

Yes, and no I'm not OK with it.

I am also NOT ok with it

I don't think anything LIVES in a legal world.

Ok, so that's the REASON, when I call the Government and ask WHAT/WHERE is the surety/security of "the" person, they are fucking TELLING ME TO GO SEE A LAWYER, because they CAN NOT GIVE FUCKING LEGAL ADVICE...

Because we LIVE in a legal world, right ? :/

So if it's a LEGAL matter, what do I do ???

go to a lawyer?

INCOMING: LIEN.....

I check the LEGAL fucking definition of the word SURETY and SECURITY, right ?

Does that makes sense so far ? :/

So type on google, "legal definition surety" and, "legal definition security"

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surety

The legal world is created by the living... but we get pulled into it because we CLAIM shit. My house, my name, etc.

That will tell you WHAT is the surety/security of the person, and I think we already knows where it is.....

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/security

I am talking PUBLIC DEBTS here, Beverly Berta Braakschmack

So now, read this again....

Article I. Every human being has the right to life, liberty and the security of his person

The term security is usually applied to a deposit, lien, or mortgage voluntarily given by a debtor to a creditor to guarantee payment of a debt. Security furnishes the creditor with a resource to be sold or possessed in case of the debtor's failure to meet his or her financial obligation. In addition, a person who becomes a surety for another is sometimes referred to as a "security."

I have the right to that person's life I have the right to that person's liberty I have the right to that person's SECURITY to discharge PUBLIC DEBT :P

Bank of Canada = PUBLIC Person = PUBLIC DEBT = PUBLIC :P

"ME" = creditor of all that shit :D

That is NOT OF MY FUCKING BUSINESS :P

got it... DONE

If the idiot who opens the envelop, dosen't know what to do with it, his responsability, is to give that thing to his boss, and so on....

but what about the previous post i made about the word security that was translated to dutch but means a totally different thing?

Move to Quebec :P , no ambiguity here, they call it SURET” :P

But first, check how much time it takes from your country, to move the surety to my country :D

It takes 2 years for some, up to 5 years for others.......but they will make you pledge allegience, so you'll be fucked :D

well i could use the french version as we speak french here as well :p

Just cross your fingers when it's time to PLEDGE :D

but canada's too cold for me :D

Am I enough consistent or constant, Rick Carnes ? :D

I can only speak sign language....

Chris- work this question in there somewhere in regards to cutting-off your service:

"Are you willing to accept the LIABILITY for your words and/or ACTIONS you take with ME?"

Here we go... I think I found it: BREACH OF CONTRACT, INTIMIDATION AND DISCRIMINATION AGAINST TRADE UNIONISTS VIOLATION DE CONTRAT, INTIMIDATION ET DISTINCTION INJUSTE ENVERS LES SYNDIQUÉS Criminal breach of contract 422. (1) Every one who wilfully breaks a contract, knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that the probable consequences of doing so, whether alone or in combination with others, will be (a) to endanger human life, (b) to cause serious bodily injury, (c) to expose valuable property, real or personal, to destruction or serious injury, (d) to deprive the inhabitants of a city or place, or part thereof, wholly or to a great extent, of their supply of light, power, gas or water, or

Criminal Code

:)

I also am NOT ok with it. The legal world seems set up for the sole purpose of them to NOT be held accountable.

The only reference to "inhabitants": incola (in-k<l-l<l), n. [Latin "an inhabitant"] Roman law. A foreign resident without full civil rights; the inhabitant of a foreign colony. -The term is used particularly for provincial residents who were not Roman citizens.

Like a Man or a Woman ? :/

In French.....

Violation de contrat, intimidation et distinction injuste envers les syndiqués Note marginale :Violation criminelle de contrat

422. (1) Quiconque, volontairement, viole un contrat, sachant ou ayant des motifs raisonnables de croire que les conséquences probables de son acte, qu’il agisse seul ou en liaison avec d’autres, seront, selon le cas :

a) de mettre en danger la vie humaine;

b) d’infliger des blessures corporelles graves;

c) d’exposer des biens de valeur, meubles ou immeubles, à une ruine totale ou à de graves dommages;

d) de priver les HABITANTS d’une ville ou localité, ou de toute partie d’une ville ou localité, totalement ou dans une grande mesure, de leur approvisionnement de lumière, d’énergie, de gaz ou d’eau;

:p

Habitant in French is someone who is living somewhere :D

So the cut the power today! :-D

Put it back on :P

I have an interesting experience to share. I keep buying back the utility debt because I don't want it shut off. However, I was just experimenting and I sent a remittance in for double the amount due (They let you fill in these BoE's) and surprisingly I recieve a refund check for exactly half the remittance. Are they playing ball with me because I inadvertently allowed them to continue to twin the revenue stream?

Eli, could you clarify that please? Did you "buy it back" OR did you send in a BoE for double the amount?

I did both. Then I receive a refund check with no explanation for exactly half the remittance amount. I ended up getting my money back essentially. I don't know if the SURETY paid double or what exactly they did but it was a shock.

Eli, it sounds like you sent a check for double the amount and they sent you a refund for one half.

No I didn't do that. I paid the amount due that's it. I decided to experiment and send a remittance/ Bill of Exchange for double the amount to see what would happen.

:O

That is odd, indeed. It seems they would have just left a credit balance instead of sending you a refund. Chris Evan needs to see this!

I am experimenting with Verizon, but have not heard anything back yet.

Yeah I can't ascertain exactly what happened. I don't know if I have found a way to tap into the SURETY or what. What they do in that clubhouse is beyond me. :)

Perhaps the SURETY did pay and they refunded what you sent?

Either that or I got the extra the SURETY paid. I don't know. Some freedumbs have said in the past that profiting off the discharge by the SURETY is a no no but that's from freedumbs. As far as I'm concerned its a refund of my money. I'm going to keep at this.

Eli are you in the U.S? If so were is the surety bank ..fed res?

Yes I am in the U.S. I was under the impression the Treasury was SURETY but Scott recently confirmed it to be the Federal Reserve itself. Scott's always right so that's the SURETY.

Yes but there are 12 does it matter which one?

I don't know. I send the remittance back to the BENEFICIARY and let them handle it. I did put the code on the back of my Social Security card on the remittance. Its rumored the letter prefix of that code indicates a federal reserve bank. I can't confirm any of that. I do know Scott was asked about the code and he basically indicated its not something we should be concerned with. Unnecessary clubhouse rules? I don't know.

Brad, my understanding is you use the Fed Reserve as Surety. The utility company can deposit it in their bank as all banks in the US use the Fed Reserve System. Once deposited at "any" bank, it clears through one of the 12 Fed Reserve districts banks. Anyone jump in here and correct if my understanding is wrong.

So all one would need to do is stamp "federal reserve bank" on the front of the BOE?

Eli, start a thread and post EXACTLY, step by step, what you wrote on your BoE. As you know, most of us in the states have trouble getting these accepted and processed. :D

I didn't even do that. I have started putting "PAY TO THE ORDER OF" on them but the front I don't mess with anything other than that and the amount. I will probably get a stamp like the one Pete uses that says "ENDORSEMENT ON REVERSE".

Okay, so you do stamp accepted on the back with the date account number and the number that some call the exemption number?

Accepted by: (my signature) then below that Date: 00/00/0000 below that Acct# (social security number) and finally below that the code on reverse of my SS card.

I almost didn't bring this up because I don't know what happened and there's no proof. We all know they go to great pains to avoid giving any solid proof to us. That's why I made my remittance to the State of Illinois for taxes out for a couple bucks extra hoping to force a refund and some sort of proof.

Thanks Eli

You are very welcome. I wish I had some concrete evidence of what's going on here. I was just screwing around when I sent this and didn't properly ACCOUNT for it. I am keeping meticulous records going forward and I will share all results with the group.

What is interesting is the fact that you put "Pay to the order of" because once the bill of exchange is completed it is a check and I may be wrong but I think all checks must say "pay to the order of" and/or "pay to bearer. Anyway I will be doing this soon and will share the results.

I am not sure if I did that with this one, but I studied the basics of negotiable instruments and that seems to be a necessity so I've done that with my PERSONS state income tax remittance and the property tax bill I am currently administrating. We shall see.

Love this fucking group

Pay to the order of....hmmm.Mackximus and Pete, how do you feel about PAYING TO THE ORDER OF?

Also, its my understanding that if a Bill is overpaid and a check is issued and TENDERED, one would also be TENDERING LAW....the particular law here, in fact, would be FRAUD!

I am not sure, but I do see "pay to the order of" in all money orders, and on drafts. It's in the example of negotiable instruments , as well. So I made my stamp, just in case. But I think in the US, is part of the information need to have in a complete draft. Can Scott confirm this?

What about REDEEMABLE at .....?

What about go fuck your self at : :D

What about Eli Weakley just happened to have found the most incompetent sack of shit of the history of United State, as far as this fucked up administration process ?

:D

What about, I should stop the coffee machine this morning :/

Pete, please explain your comment "founding the most incompetent sack of shit?" :/

Well, maybe it's a MISTAKE they have done..... ?

States is plural idiot

:-D :-D :-D

I know in order to PAY, we have to BUY something first, but we are NOT buying anything. Right? But I just shared the info for the US. Let's figure this out.

I just posted evidence, and no likes? :/

are we saying one can pay bills without using the fake cash in our pockets?

hahahah....yes Max!!! We have a RIGHT to the SECURITY of the PERSON. That is held in an ACCOUNT at a FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Of course its payable! Pay to the order of. Hmmm....but this BoE that got the Electric shut off says "Please make check payable to: PMLP or Peabody Municipal Lght Plant" Perhaps I should have crossed off "Please make check".

Pete, do you have a "Pay to the order of" stamp?

Nope

On one of these BoE, I have completed, I did this:

Besisdes City of Montreal, I wrote BENEFICIARY Besides PIERRE DAOUST, I wrote DRAWER And Besides my Bank of Canada rubber stamp, I wrote DRAWEE

Never heard of that one so far, it was a traffic ticket :/

I think IDENTIFYING the three parties might be useful....

How long?

5 or 6 months ago...

We are endorsing the back....isn't that for the beneficiary?

Here are the rules, and importance for identifying the parties to a draft/negotiable instrument in the USA: <<A draft, or a cheque has three original parties: the drawer, the drawee, and the payee. The names given to the parties to these instruments are important because the liabilities of the parties varies depending on the parties role.>>

There are 2 kinds of negotiable instruments: promises to pay, and orders to pay.

A PROMISSORY NOTE: It's a written promise made and signed by the maker TO PAY a sum of certain money to the holder of an instrument.

CERTIFICATE OF DEPOSITS: a written promise to pay by a BANK.

DRAFTS or Bill of Exchange: A bill of exchange in the USA it's a called a DRAFT, and it MUST be and ORDER TO PAY a sum of money to a second party. Here you have 3 parties: a drawer, a drawee, and a payee.

Chris Evan i remember WB owing money to his dad as a kid, and dad would ask WB to flip his paycheck over, sign it, and dad could deposit the check, and the money from the employer's account would go to WB's dad's account.

So basically, in the case of a Bill of exchange, if WB owes money to, say, the city of Quebec, WB can flip the check over, sign it, and the money from the SURETY will go to the city's account...

Yup...got it WB

Thank you

Make NOTE that in the USA, instead of BENEFICIARY, we use the word PAYEE. The rules are clear everything must be identified correctly.

And if Pete's administration process fails, I have my own "Accepted for Stupid, Returned for Retard, Gay Tax Duty, Exempt for Moron" method. Hell, maybe I'll teach you Adam Thomas' "Rock-o-Crack" method too!

I have grown Dean's Wolverine beard, got the "mountain man from Montana" outfit, and have the middle-eastern terrorist Bonacci look, so I'm ready for some seminars!

And if Pete's administration process fails...

It's not Pete's administration process, it's the Government's administration process :D

So if it fails, we have a huge PROBLEM :D

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

Mackximus Minimus by "gay tax duty", are you trying to pay for the jurisdiction?

No, he wants to PAY for YOUR taxes, Chris Evan :P

Acceptance is the drawers written promise to pay the draft when it comes due. Is the drawee the person I happen to have in my pocket? And why does this say to stamp accepted on the face?

The Drawee is the BANK The Drawer is the PERSON I have. The BENEFICIARY is the one who try to make you buy back this debt :D

Okay, when I complete this bill of exchange and send it to the beneficiary at some point a bank is going to stamp accepted on the front?

Why ?

Good question, It has nothing to do with me so why do I care

Good answer :D

Mackximus Minimus: Keep in mind that Dean Clifford holds the claim for "Wolverine CosPlay Guy", and you don't wan't to be stepping on any "guru" toes.

True that. Is just that "Fortress of Remand" sounds so cozy.

Let someone else book your hotel rooms while on the road doing these seminars, Mackximus Minimus, just saying :-P

1. All crimes are commercial in nature in the US since 1933. 2. I have the right to decline any and all commerce.

Why are all ships female? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wi8Fv0AJA4

Women aren't PERSONS under the law. NO PERSON=NO SURETY. It's why you need INSURANCE.

NO! SHIT-STAIN!

The dictionary in your ass is NOT A VALID REFERENCE!

JURISDICTION Etymology: from Old French jurediction; from Latin jurisdictio(n); from jus, jur, "law" + dictio "saying"; from dicere, "to say".

2 hours I was away, and the shit-stains cover the forum.

:-D http://imgur.com/user/fapnation/favorites/zisbO

Deleting your shit stain just makes me look like I'm talking to myself, Jason Moreland. You want to stain the forum with bullshit? LIVE WITH IT WHEN I SHOW YOU YOU'RE AN IDIOT. You can serve as a warning to others!

...but YOU just delete it, removing the context. Your cowardice comes at my expense.