Apr 08, 2014 1:57 AM

I wouldnt say im not qualified. I dont do stuff im not qualifies to do, as i dont want any surety in such matter. You could have hired an accountant and rebill whatever he charges to the govt. I myself dont do the paperwork.

I wouldnt mention the surety neither at this point... Just get your remittance vouchers, stamp the shit out of them, and send a new letter along explaining heres the bills of exchange and in case you dont know what to do i graciously instruct you on how to administrate them. Any further assistance required from me will be charged at "whatever hourly rate floats your ship"...

Personally I feel it's quite cordial. You should see the conditional acceptance I sent last year after being arrested for domestic battery (wrongfully arrested I may add). :)

And remember ALL belief is EVIL. Facts don't lead to belief. lol

LOL @ ELI

It takes a while to overcome the programming that makes you feel like you're doing something wrong when administrating. That programming is strong stuff!

geesh, you guys should get to try being schitsophrenic and brainwashed where each half, one knows the truth, the other believes the lie (for some reason [brainwashed]) and then only out of self preservation. a mighty bizarr conundrum indeed, and they wonder why i smoke weed!

Eli, what provoked you to need to write this letter in the first place?

I have a small tax debt that my PERSON owes to the state of Illinois.

I don't know of a way to handle it without a BILL so I am filing and including a short letter asking for the BILL etc.

It's not an outstanding debt just I've done the paperwork and know what I'll owe when I file.

Ok so this isn't about something filed previously by yourself, but they are requiring payment of some derived amount stemming from an employer?

Yes I work for a large corporation and they play ball with the IRS regardless of my efforts. They report all my earnings.

Isn't there usually a remittance voucher/instrument attached to the bottom of any filing? Under Canada we can get them and they're personalized :D Shit, I forgot what they are called for US... Google it

I know what you're talking about. Is it the 1099? I'm not sure how those work. It's different from the Bills of Exchange I've dealt with. At least it looks different.

Ok its the 1040-V I think. What can you tell me about these?

Nope, 1099 OID is original discount return (such as any instrument you have created), same as our T5008 “Return of Securities Transactions (to the Principal)...

Yah, 1040-V, that's the one :D

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1040v.pdf

its right there... administrate it :D

Like a Bill of Exchange then?

Here's the Illinois form http://tax.illinois.gov/TaxForms/IncmCurrentYear/Individual/IL-1040-V.pdf

Yes. Google: negotiable instruments act... cause it is one

Looks similar.

Ok thanks!

Ain't it kewl they call it a "payment voucher"? Unlike here, its a "remittance"...

Yeah I thought that was a bit obvious :)

I've seen Utility Bills from the US with "payment coupon" right on them... I mean its pretty clear what "coupon" means... You guys are lucky...

it's so fascinating I never knew about this. Can't wait to put it to use!

Let us know how this works out please Eli. :)

i'm wondering if i could try to get a company to issue a purchase order, i have that debt discharged and go collect on those goods?

what is the remittance slip called in canada under CRA? and can you point me to the correct literature to begin this process? apparently i owe 4000 this year

what do u use to stamp the remittance voucher with?

http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/formspubs/frms/ppr_nly-eng.html

They personalize those in Canada. You need to call in and request these and they will send them to you.

Although someone I know, filed a few years back and with the balance owing lingering over his head for a few years was getting hassled to purchase this public debt. He asked for a certified copy of the signed Bill that made income tax law and just got the run around. Seeing how he HAD APPLIED for this in the past, he then appointed the Finance Minister as TRUSTEE on behalf of his PERSON to settle the matter.

All has been silent since.

see "trustee" at very bottom of definition...

“trust” does not mean the duties incident to an estate conveyed by way of mortgage but, with this exception, includes implied and constructive trusts and cases where the trustee has some beneficial estate or interest in the subject of the trust, and extends to and includes the duties incident to the office of personal representative of a deceased person, and “trustee” has a corresponding meaning and includes a trustee HOWEVER APPOINTED and several joint trustees;

http://www.canlii.org/en/on/laws/stat/rso-1990-c-t23/latest/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CcHgHeraZI

http://livefreenow.tv/past-conferences/irs-a-income-tax/whitey-harrell.html

Just wanted to give an update on this. It has been thirty days and I've yet to hear back from the state. Hopefully I've successfully discharged a tax debt for the first time!

WELL It's a good thing Robert Menard had your back! :D

...Oh wait.

...But Dean Clifford was on it! He gave you all the right answers you needed... Oh, Sorry. Nope! He's not there either.

Hmmmm... Where did you get these "magic" powers, Eli?

From an honorable Admiral and his Captain :) Scott and Pete thank you both! I would be totally fucked without this group and you two.

The fact that you cannot "un-know" this stuff makes it that much harder not to pursue it.

And then there's the eye-rolling habit you've acquired when you listen to other people talk about "money." :/

There truly is no turning back. Everything I thought I knew has been turned on its head. I never knew who I am.

How come I didn't post in this thread ? :-o

It's because you suck, Pete Daoust! Nothing more. You just suck.

such sweetness! LOL

That number one rule of the universe thing is getting scary :/

You want "me" to FIX ME UP ? :D