Mar 23, 2014 11:23 PM

Fuck, I don't get anything in what you are saying here :-(

I wonder what kind of a brain you have :-D

Pete...I am asking the Admiral what we have to tell the Accountants really......So, you have had the most success finding the SURETY. BUT, you have created funds. Shouldn't they be claimed?

A creditor creates "credit"

AND.....if there is any FREEDUMB crap in my brain, it would be best to lose it here on this thread rather than in the real world

Yeah....but shouldn't that be CLAIMED by someone we trust for our benefit?

If someone we trust doesn't claim the creation of credit, couldn't some other ROGUE corporation?

Maybe verifying the difference between "credit" and "funds" would be a good idea ! :-\

sure....and that why I am here!

I still think that the accountant's job is to balance the books, so the best thing to say to him/her shall be, hey, balance these books please ! :-D

<sigh> yeah Pete, no shit. this is the CPAs job (chartered accountant). But I would like to know the basics

and I don't think a CPA is going to lien a bunch of shit for me.....

Before you start liening shit, you might need to send a few invoices :-P

Why?

Well, what shit would you like to lien ? :/

SS Account, Electric Account, Bank Accounts, ANY account that the PERSON opened ever, Drivers License, Registrations....err.....everything that the person has ever done

Ho !!! :-o

Lets start with this SS account, Why you want to lien this, and what makes you think you can do that ?

Because it is an account of the PERSON which I gave value...

If I could be of some assistance with the FREE-DUMB stuff and perhaps provide an ANSWER TO SOMETHING. Home Depot is offering this item in the security section of the store, and offers it free with every surveillance package you buy.

The Corporation that CLAIMED and LIENED the PERSON should lien all of the Accounts, is this incorrect? Does the corporation not have a stake in the business of the Person?

Ok, but Chris, if that PERSON has been claimed by another PERSON, I guess everything hooked to that PERSON is also claimed ? ....no ? :/

I don't think so Pete Daoust....I think some rogue corporations are still going around based on a presumed Power of Attorney and fucking with that persons stuff.

For instance, a closed account is still open for set off. They are still using the signature.....

Fuck that!

Well, that would be illegal :D

If I register a lien on a car, and someone removes the engine, or fuck around with that car's seats......he is comitting a crime ? ....no ? :/

So are you saying that they aren't doing what I think they are doing?

Then a HUGE invoice could be sent to this fucktard, and I could LIEN some more shit :D

Well, if they do it, and you find out, you will have to send some invoices... :/

Scott Duncan...is this wrong?

Its settling an Estate. The Executor has to go out and find all the accounts of the deceased. (Don't correct me on the words....this is an analogy) All accounts need to be claimed individually

Ask Jo Xappie, he has a direct connection with Scott :D

I do?

Yes you do

via telepathy

LOL....via COMPUTER SCIENCE :P

all ones and zeros

The Admiral must be doing "boat stuff"....

Mmmhhh....I suspect him doing some computer stuff......he has boat bunnies for the boat stuff :-P

The Admiral oversees All

And the computer stuff he does, might have some positive impact on the crew :-D

An exchange type of thing, ya know !! :-D

Anyway...back to the OP. I am pretty sure this is how one man can "dump a half a billion dollars into the market". by claiming the credit!

I thought I could ONLY "give" credit, not CLAIMING it :(

Maybe you meant claiming the "bebt" ? :/

Nope

Maybe the problem is you still think that there is a POSITIVE balance somewhere Chris, and me, I think there is ONLY debts.....

The only thing I can see so far, is DEBTS, I can't see anything else, unless I open my crypto-currency wallets :D

money of exchange. I see the concept, I just have a hard time calling a crypto-currency "money" based on what we've come to see what "money" really is

If it's true that if there would be PROFIT instead of DEBTS, for lets say Canada, I could show up at Bank of Canada with that CERTIFICATE, and exchange the coupon attached to it, for DIVIDENDES.......well, the only thing there is to CLAIM in that case is DEBTS ??....no ?? :/

Oh ffs....your fucking time is q POSITIVE balance. And it is somewhere

For every debt, there must be a credit...cmon....you know this

LOL... :D

You just saying it Chris, credit and debt, and there is MORE debt than there is credit right now..... :D

Because no one is claiming the credit!!!!

No, because everyone are BUYING BACK these debts :P

Chris Evan where is the credit coming from?

Yes....and if we CREATE A BoE, its creating Credit. It needs to be claimed!!

Buying back debts = debt BoE = credit!!!

a BoE is just a promise to pay, a debt instrument, where's the credit?

The credit is discharge...I think

The credit comes from some SPECULATIONS fucktards have placed on my shoulders :D

Yes. So I am saying claim it!!

And they have EXAGERATED a bit, these past 40 some years :D

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

ME is the only real credit. ME is the only one that has VALUE :p

But that "ME", has been stolen when I was 16 days old :(

Am I wrong?

I don't think you are wrong Chris, but unless the DEBT is cleared, you won't get fuckall from no one :P

Its not about getting fuckall fucktard. Its about claiming CREDIT as the fucking CREATOR! GOD!!!

Why do you think they have brought your national debts to a level where it will be impossible to clear ?

:-)

Lets go 100 years into the future and a death certificate is issued. Now what happens to ME and ME's value?

Its not impossible...just gonna take a while

You can use that "credit" for ANY debts sent to the person, Chris

A HUGE fucking while !!!! :D

I would think that all debts would be settled for the PERSON in my backpocket

A settled debtv= credit yes?

Yep, by being discharge via the SURETY :)

Who's credit is it?

Do you guys know WHY there's a SURETY hooked to that PERSON, they've created a few days after your birth ?

its a pledge, like a future in the stock market

A pledge ???....what the fuck is this ? :D

and their portfolio keeps growing with every birth they capture

:D

Pledge

A Bailment or delivery of Personal Property to a creditor as security for a debt or for the performance of an act.

So they've created that person, put it in collateral versus a public debt, right ?

So they had no choice to "deliver" a personal property to "ME" ? :D

That personal property is the SURETY ? :-o

So Pete Daoust...why should we claim and lien our instruments?

To make sure I am the ONLY one that have ACCESS to this personal property, being the SURETY :D

The PLEDGE :D

Now, if Scott Duncan could be generous and help me find out ALL METHODS available to "me", to ACCESS that personal property, being that surety, that would be fun :D

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

I know one method to this day... :/

CLAIMING the surety seems to make all others loosing all INTEREST they might have on the PERSON.... :)

Oh Pete Daoust do tell!!! :P

Well, if there's no surety, no business can be made ! :-\

AnywAy I hope it clears up things for you Chris Evan :-D

Now you control the "business:

Pete Daoust, here is the "Pledge"

“[Very] soon, every American will be required to register their biological property in a national system designed to keep track of the people and that will operate under the ancient system of pledging. By such methodology, we can compel people to submit to our agenda, which will effect our security as a chargeback for our fiat paper currency. Every American will be forced to register or suffer being unable to work and earn a living. They will be our chattel, and we will hold the security interest over them forever, by operation of the law merchant under the scheme of secured transactions.

Colonel Edward Mendell House

But now we know Jo, don't we ?

Of course we do:)

pisses me off to no avail that some dumbass would treat me as chattel, NO?

Pete Daoust...you are missing the whole other side of this. I get it....you are happy with where you are and comfortable with what you know. But you are missing this point. and these questions werent addressed to you

Confortable with what I know ? :(

ARE YOU FUCKING CRAZY ???? :(

Tell me what I am missing Chris,

Its up there...you are missing the claim the Credit part

Ok, well I really hope someday I'll get it :(

I'll start by figuring out how a creditor can claim credits, and WHY shall he do such a thing......will get back to you when I'll figure that one out :(

He doesnt. Someone he trusts does.

Plus....what does this have to do with you? I was asking the Admiral

Who do you talk too ?

Chris Evan, who do you talk to ?

Dude....I am done conversing with you here

TO WHO THE FUCK YOU ARE TALKING TO Chris Evan, fuck :(

Chris Evan, I am asking one more time, with who are you talking with, in here ? ....please answer me....

Are you mad at me because I can't understand what you are trying to do ? .....is that is ?

Woah !! :-o

By the definition of the words, you cannot claim "credit". You may claim money, "rights", benefits, property or interest in property, possessory claims, even titles to land, but not credit. So it is confusing, Chris.

You must look at credit in terms of ACCOUNTING.

Remember, everything is SURETY and ACCOUNTING.

<<Credit

A term used in accounting to describe either an entry on the righthand side of an account or the process of making such an entry. A credit records the increases in liabilities, owners' Equity, and revenues as well as the decreases in assets and expenses.

A sum in taxation that is subtracted from the computed tax, as opposed to a deduction that is ordinarily subtracted from gross income to determine adjusted gross income or taxable income. A claim for a particular sum of money.

The ability of an individual or a company to borrow money or procure goods on time, as a result of a positive opinion by the particular lender concerning such borrower's solvency and reliability. The right granted by a creditor to a debtor to delay satisfaction of a debt, or to incur a debt and defer the payment thereof.>> http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/credit

<<Claim

To demand or assert as a right. Facts that combine to give rise to a legally enforceable right or judicial action. Demand for relief.

A claim is something that one party owes another. Someone may make a legal claim for money, or property, or for Social Security benefits.

A claim also means an interest in, as in a possessory claim, or right to possession, or a claim of title to land.>> http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/claim

Chris, everything outside of this group will confuse you. Scott has used the term Executor, but only to tell us to stay away from that stuff.

It's hard to detox from the past, if you mingle with people that are STILL in the past. My friends list has gone down from 400+, to 44. Like Pete said, I know myself, and I stay away now from those old influences. There is no "in between".

Just sayin'.

Ha, I knew I could only "GIVE" credit :P

Now, to WHO in the fuck, I "gave" ALL this credit ?, that is the QUESTION, I guess :)

Apparently "others" have been benefiting from OUR "full faith and credit". We have been "extending credit" like maniacs. :/ And then serving as DEBTORS as well, by buying back those debts.

the land of confusion.