Jan 21, 2014 4:36 PM

Scott, Scott, lama sabachthani?

how to file a claim and win: DON'T FILE !!!! :D

Well, that's not helpful!! Lol

But that's the truth....sorry :(

Well if that's the truth then this entire common law movement is a wast of time. If we can't keep them honest why are we learning this stuff?

Oh boy....

The whole thing is a pony show, Mathew. There is no LAW. "Common law" included. Some REALLY smart guys have the lead. Sorry to spoil the party.

entire common law movement ???....what's that ? :/

You want "remedy"? Get a fucking gun! Well, A LOT of guns for better results. In other words, we were taugh around here to never appeal to our rappist, Mathew. We don't "file" shit. We CLAIM shit.

And ADMINISTRATE shit !!! :D

That comes with the deal, :P!

Mathew Wolfe, EXPOSE to us your problem :)

"Until they are forced to pay they won't stop harassing us."

Buahahahaha!

Don't take this personal, Mathew. We have love, but it's tough love around here. Don't let "emotions" trick you.

They took Santos Bonacci "arrested" a few hours ago. Let's see how many light spirit aliens will file an habeas courpus for his person... NOT!

From my understanding thus far, we have to control the trial judge to get favorable results. Odds are we are in a de facto court facing statutory charges. This is a mistake obviously. They presume that we are performing some function of government and are subject to their jurisdiction. This would make us the trustee. Once we dispute this presumption they now have a DUTY to protect our rights. We must be able to seek remedy when they fail to perform their duty.

I also realize that many time unsuccessful results in court are often blamed on corruption when in reality it stems from a lack of understanding of the rules and procedures. We jump off the handle when the judge practices law from the bench. But we expect him to uphold a law that we did not present...

*sigh*

So what's this group for then? I was under the impression that this was a group to discuss law. Am I in the wrong place to discuss legal procedure here?

This is definitively NOT the place to discuss "legal" procedure. But if you want to know what this group is/was all about, you have some reading to do. It might be a little late for you. Wish you well!

Mathew Wolfe......

THE TENDER FOR LAW is an examination of what you need to know to fight Judicial corruption, by examining the stuff you are LIED TO about.

SPOILERS: IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT ACCOUNTING AND SURETY.

You are BOUND by ACTS, STATUTES, and CODES when you use MONEY. On that money are the words THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER: THIS NOTE - The note the words (NOTICE) is written on. IS LEGAL - CODES, ACTS, AND STATUTES with the force of law.

TENDER - tender verb tendered ten·der·ing Definition of TENDER

transitive verb 1: to make a tender of 2: to present for acceptance : offer "tendered my resignation" intransitive verb : to make a bid or tender Origin of TENDER Middle English tendren, from Anglo-French tendre offer First Known Use: 15th century

THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER=THIS NOTE IS A TENDER FOR LAW

This forum is where you can ask all your questions, and we don't have to keep typing the same answers over and over. To that end, I am telling you to WATCH THIS FIRST:

http://youtu.be/3P7izAUe3ZM

NOT watching this, and then posting a question and/or making idiotic statements which reveal you HAVEN'T watched this, means you are DELIBERATELY ignoring these instructions, and you will be banned.

Post your question, we will do our best to answer. OFF TOPIC POSTS WILL BE PURGED. We want people to be able to use this as a central reference and a place to go for help, where people will take the time to do so.

Post any questions on LAW, MONEY, CONTRACTS, and JURISDICTIONS and how they are connected.

Keep it civil, even if Scott doesn't. (It's Scott after all. Seriously, it's better than paying him) Remember that Scott chooses his words carefully. LEARN WHAT THOSE WORDS MEAN.

What Pete said!

:D There we go!

Mathew Wolfe, do you have ANY issues with the JUSTICE ?

It appears I may be in this group by mistake. I understand the difference between lawful and legal. I also understand the concept behind accepting surety for the name... And yes I understand how central banks work and fiat currency and how all if this ties together. I want to learn how to seek remedy when I've been trespassed. I thought this was the group to seek that information. I'll dedicate some time to watch the video you posted as well. Thank you all do your time.

WOW!!!.....maybe you should start a group ??....if you UNDERSTAND all these things, how come you can't find remedy ?? :/

Well I in no way meant sound arrogant or like I know it all because I don't. I was simply trying to express I've got an understanding on such things and I'm not starting from square one.

I'll be sure to check out the video later in when u have a bit more time. Thanks for the advice.

I did not thought you were arrogant, but you seems to have ALL the knowledge to know what would be the remedy for any issues that might come your way.....difference between lawful and legal, understand the concept behind accepting surety for the name, understand how central banks work and fiat currency.....is a heck of a package.....

Do you get BILLS sometimes in the person's, you happen to have in your pocket, its mailbox ?? ...if yes, what do you do with these bills ??

And HOW do you administrate PUBLIC debts, sent to the person you happen to have in your pocket ??

What are you talking about? "Person in my pocket?" I have no person in my pocket. I am not a person (corporate fiction). But I am a natural person. What definition are we using? In fact the man vs person argument lands people in jail more times than not. What title or jurisdiction do I act through? If I find myself in court facing statutory charges, they must presume I was acting as their agent in some way. Can the prosecutor prove this? No. Therefore the court has a duty as the trustee to protect my rights. I'm seeking information on how to seek remedy when they fail to perform this duty.

As far as your question on receiving "bills" for the "person"; I'm not exactly sure what you mean, but when I'm given a bill that I feel is given by mistake, I start my administrative process. I send them notice of conditional acceptance. I'll accept their bill and agree to pay if they can provide me with proof of my obligation to do so. When they fail to respond I default them. This establishes agreement of the parties. This my evidence should they take legal actions against me for failure To pay or perform. This would also by my evidence in my claim when I allege harm would it not?

:D

but if you "pay" it it only creates more debt. It seems that Pete can help you settle this debt with a little help from your friend that you may not realize you have in your pocket.

Mathew, You may think your in the wrong place now... but you will be back.

Perhaps someone could clearly a bit for me then...?? I still have not had the opportunity to watch this video just yet, so maybe it will clear things up as well.

It's not a "friend" Philip, It's a slave :-D

Mathew Wolfe, you have a grasp that you are not the name, nor are you surety for the name...but the name is considered a person...that person often exists in your pocket in the form of a drivers licence, a medicare card, birth certificate, passport or some other state created legal fiction.

You are correct in that you are not that person...but you hold the position of sole authorised administrator for that person (unless someone else is entitled to hold those documents as well).

As you are sole authorised administrator for the name/person, you can administrate shit for that person.

So, when a bill is sent for that person, you can administrate it as an inchoate bill of exchange.

When a driving charge is levelled against the person, you can accept the charge & have it administrated and discharged.

After all, the signatory on the birth certificate that was created 12 to 16 days after you were born, has agreed to act as surety for that person.

That person was created by the state/province. It says so on the top of the birth certificate.

All other public documents are derived directly or indirectly from that initial document.

If you claim that you are that name, that is at the very least negligent misrepresentation, but more likely it's fraud.

But as the legal holder in due course of that person, you have some sort of obligation to administrate matters for it, so part of the learning is learning how to administrate shit.

But as Pete Daoust says, it's ok if you don't know this, it's not my fault :D

Stuart Stone that response was actually very enlightening. It's not at all what I was asking about, but it absolutely makes me rethink a lot of what I thought I knew.

If you have made a private claim that the other party has defaulted on, you have 3 main choices:

1. Do nothing 2. Deal with it in the private realm by getting them in default, then liening their property for the agreed upon value of the damages. 3. Take it into the public realm where skilled and paid actors will weave wordspells that you have little, if any success in unravelling. Somewhere, at some time, you will make a mistake & then you will lose (most of the time anyway) and bad things happen.

Here, we deal with number 2 & ward off attacks by administrating shit & reminding the other party that we are not the name/person...because we are learning/have learnt who we are and how to be responsible men & women.

Stuart Stone, I have done number 2, and no one gives a fuck. I did it exactly as Ceit Butler suggested. There has been proper notice given, a default, etc. No one gives a fuck.

The Docket Number was properly defaulted upon and liened! Nothing. They were noticed of intent to lien. Nothing. It was liened. Nothing. Except an offer for me to plead guilty or go to trial.

I have said no less than 25 times "Unless the questions I have asked are answered, I cannot understand the nature and cause of these proceedings." Very simple questions from the Notice of Mistake. Nothing, except, you are a person to which I have replied "What evidence do you have of that?" Nothing!

How about this? What evidence do you have that I have any intent to contract in the matter? Answer: Its not a contract its the law. Response: What evidence do you have of that? Nothing. And this case has been notified of a lien since Dec 1 and actually liend since a couple weeks ago. Nothing

And there is a $299M lien on this PERSON.

Were you there today Chris ?? :/

yes

It looks to me, that someone really want to ADMINISTRATE the person you happen to have in your pocket, WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION :/

Yup....I told them that back in October! They don't give a fuck!

I issued the District Attorney an invoice for using the NAME without a Power of Attorney...AFTER I had a default on the question. They don't give a fuck

Pete, THEY DON'T GIVE A FUCK

And by "I", I mean a trustee corporation of course

Burn it all down! :p

Maybe it's time to say:

Hey, I'll just sit there, as the Sole BENEFICIARY, do your thing and I'll wait for the check........since you have guns, and really seems to want to administrate the person, without authorization, that is all I have left to do.

Thanks and have a nice day !!!

And just sit there and DON'T GIVE A FUCK

ok Pete, so you have done this, huh? You have experience with this?

You have personal first hand knowledge that this is the way to handle the situation...is that correct?

Nope....never done this before, I just share what I THINK is what's left to do....

I WOULD DO THIS....is what I am saying...

It will be tough to find someone that has been through the same stuff you are in Chris,

Too bad Dean Clifford and Santos Bonacci are in jail, they could help you on this.... :D

Yeah..great. And I know it was dumb. HOWEVER, my intention is not to be dumb.

How can I claim to be administrator of something I did not create? That's what I'm not comprehending just yet. Dean Clifford explains the trust in detail. In one jurisdiction I'm the executor/beneficiary. But the BC is their document. That's their title. I'm the trustee of that title. How am I the administrator of this title??

Here we go again !!!! :(

Mathew Wolfe, let me ask you a question and PLEASE follow me here :)

1). do you have a Bank Note in your pocket as we speak ?

Helloosss !!!!

Mathew Wolfe.....

1). do you have a Bank Note in your pocket as we speak ?

:D

1). do you have a Bank Note in your pocket as we speak ? (lets suppose YES :D )

2). Have you created it ? NO

3) iS IT YOUR'S ? NO

4). Who the fuck will administrate this Bank Note ? YOU

5) You are the SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR regarding that bank note: YES !!!

6). WHY ???.....because you EARNED it

Same with that fucking PERSON you happen to have in your pocket :P

It's not a BC, it's not a fucking NAME.....IT'S A PERSON :D

No one else than "ME" can give value to that PERSON........no one :P

So guess WHO will be its SOLE MASTER ??......"ME" for fuck sakes :D

Any OBJECTIONS ??? :/

It's funny because before I have met The Tender for Law.

Money was my master, and PIERRE DAOUST was my master

Now, I am the fucking MASTER of these things :D

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! :D

Thanks Scott Duncan :P

Mathew, you have control of the BC as lawful holder in due course. They created the PERSON but then gave you the controlling document, the financial instrument...

Sorry I couldn't respond sooner. At work. And now that response makes sense. I'll be checkin more into this stuff for sure. As I understand i now, the trustee of this instrument only has the authority that was granted right?? This has peaked my interest or sure tho!

No, I am the SOLE authorized Administrator of the PERSON :(

Ok...so who granted me authority to act as sole administrator; and what kind of liability do I assume by doing so?

Who grated the Authority to do whatever you want with the $100 note, you have in your pocket ? :/

The only authority you were granted was the right to contract or not. After that they make the rules (statutes)

WHY ARE YOU LOOKING FOR "AUTHORITY" ?

NOOOOOOO..... :(

I have legal title...the BC. It was GIVEN to me. I've been CERTIFIED to act on their behalf and use THEIR title. That much makes sense. It even makes sense that I could be the sole administrator, but what I don't quite understand is how I can have sole authority over that which I did not create unless that authority was granted to me by its creator... And what strings come with it?

Am I out of line in asking these things? Trust me, I have argued the "vacate" argument and the right to contract argument time and time again. It doesn't make sense that I could not chose when and where I want to contract. When I want to act through that title and when I do not... So I've been looking for this type of thing for a while now. I don't want to assume liability for an instrument unless I'm aware of all the strings attached...

Doesn't it seem strange to anyone that we have to go to these lengths in search of freedom....or whatever you want to call it? doesn't the very crux seem odd?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE8BgQzyktE

^ yeah. Before I can subscribe to any new ideas it has to pass a BS test, as dean would say. It's got to make sense. I don't believe things have to be so complicated... People get caught up in definitions and this theory and that... Just keep it simple.

Mackximus Minimus, thanks for the vid. I'll check this out tonight along with the video posted a ways up in this thread.

You want SIMPLE shit Mathew Wolfe ??? :D

Here is some for you :D

Pete’s Law Dictionary First Edition —

Accounting.,

Definition: To account, to be accountable for, as in WHO accounts for being surety.

Act of Birth.

Definition: A “DEAL” made between a Mother and/or a Father and The Government, that has a COMMERCIAL purpose, and leads to a PERSON’s creation.

Administration,

Definition: Taking care of stuff.

Boat-Bunny.

Definition: Something being used by Scott Duncan.

Birth Certificate.

Definition: A document prepared by an official during the course of his or her regular duties, and which may be used as evidence for certain purposes, like showing who is SURETY for a person.

Deal.

Definition: Commercial agreement.

Debt:

Definition: A thing, usually found in a person’s mailbox, that you can buy back, or discharge via its surety.

Event.

Definition: A specific moment in time, where something specific happened. Like when the government creates a PERSON.

Fucktard: noun.,

Definition: Some one that do stuff because someone else said is OK to do it.

Fuckwit.,

Definition: See Fucktard

Kidfuckery.

Definition: A sport, usually practiced by Priest and/or other Fucktard.

Legal:

Definition: Something written on a piece of paper, usually created by a SUPREME being. Lien.

Definition: An arrest on title, known to be the ONLY valid claim in COMMERCE.

Man: noun.,

Definition: A human with a penis, preferably alive.

Niggeresque.

Definition: Adjective usually employed by someone who love a white Jesus.

Person.,

Definition: A thing, that a Man can use to do commerce with.

Pocket.,

Definition: Something that usually carry a person and/or other stuff

Seminar.,

Definition: A room filled with Fucktard, being taught some stuff by a Man or a Woman

Signature.

Definition: Something you can GIVE, or not.

Supreme Being.

Definition: Include a Man and a Woman.

Surety.,

Definition: Something somewhere, that makes it sure, that a debt will be discharged somehow.

Woman.,

Definition: A human with a vagina, preferably alive.

Unless someone else is entitled to claim the Birth Certificate that you hold in your possession/pocket, then you would be the sole party authorised to act and/or administrate matters for that person...

That is how you can assume the role as sole authorised administrator for the person...unless they handed that same BC out to more than one man/woman :D

It's a commercial standoff, always!

"Oh that's the governments legal liability...." "Is it?"....

............

Scott's back... Wahey! :D