I am in jury duty selection process today and tomorrow. I am shocked that circumstantial evidence is acceptable here legally.
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Pete Daoust
Where is "here" ?
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Libby Patterson
Santa Cruz California
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Libby Patterson
They kept saying the word belief to us. I mouthed off what does any of this have to do with belief!
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Pete Daoust
Oh, in Muricka, nothing really surprises me :D
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Libby Patterson
I asked yhe judge where that law came from and he pulled out a book called judges directions to jurors.
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Pete Daoust
Scott, we have a JURY here, that can be interesting ?? :)
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Pete Daoust
Derek, Libby Patterson is pretty deep in club house rules, I suppose ?? :/
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Brad Tullar
Civil matter?
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Libby Patterson
i got called in for jury duty. First day. I just downloaded the black's law dictionary last night. lol. we were told we can not discuss the case with anyone, and that we can not do research online.
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Libby Patterson
it's a criminal case
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Derek Moran
Its funny you mention that Pierre, i too received an offer-to-contract with the PERSON i have for Jury Duty (a 'Jury Notice')...here's what i sent back:
NOTICE OF CONDITIONAL-ACCEPTANCE
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED — WITHOUT PREJUDICE
NOTICE TO AGENT IS NOTICE TO PRINCIPAL — NOTICE TO PRINCIPAL IS NOTICE TO AGENT
The Sheriff of Ontario
Highest governmental-authority of common law on the land
Sheriff’s Office
c/o Provincial Jury Centre
PO Box 666(666?...hmm, that’s rather disturbing — why would they give you guys a PO Box # that is the Mark-of-the-BEAST??), STN A
Oshawa ON L1H 9Z9
I just wanted to let you guys know that I am very much alive-and-well, I have not beene absent from my land and/or estate—I have not perished in “The Great Fire of the sovereign-city-state of London, England of which the Guild the British Accreditation Registry is based from out of—and I have not gone “Lost-at-sea.” I mention this, because I noticed the way my name was spelled in the envelope sent to my home was misspelled; for greater certainty, it was spelled in all-capital-letters. I only bring this up because, section 9.2 of Regulation 181 of the Corporations Act of Ontario states: (2) The name of a corporation shall be set out in an application filed under the Act in block capital letters and with only one space between each word.
That being all said, I would be happy, more than happy, and conditionally-accept the offer to be a part of some other Man, Woman and/or people’s jury “of-their-peerage for them to ensure that they receive a FAIR-and-IMPARTIAL proceeding. However there seems to be a problem in that, it seems only a PERSON can be a part of “jury duty.” And the last time I checked, the Legislation Act 2006 for the PROVINCE OF ONTARIO, taking into account the Maxim-of-law that INCLUDES is based upon, says that a: “person” (is/means) a corporation.
Another problem is that, the offer-to-contract that you guys mailed to my home, has offered in it no consideration to me. One of the elements of a valid contract, is that both sides have to be receiving consideration from each other which ultimately, leads them both to a consensus ad idem. Im actually not looking for any “money”/legal tender, but here are my Terms-and-Conditions:
— (1) I spend no more than 5 business-days in “the jury pool” down at University Avenue in Toronto, Ontario (2) TTC tokens provided for me in order to get back-and-forth to jury-duty from my home (3) a $15 or whatever is the lawful-currency of the day per diem for me to get something to eat-and-drink during meal-breaks (4) meal-breaks (5) the ability to leave if an urgent matter comes up that I must attend to (6) access to view and/or make copies of the court-file and/or any-and-all documents concerning the proceedings I recently made a request for from the Clerk of the Court of Equity in Toronto, Ontario
Thank you, and Happy-belated Labour Day Weekend to you and all in your office,
By: NON ASSUMPSIT, WITHOUT PREJUDICE, ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
DerekMoran, Grantor, sole-living-life-In Being-Contingent Beneficiary-of-a-Future Interest, a people
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Pete Daoust
:D
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Derek Moran
..somehow i knew you would like that Pierre ;)
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Pete Daoust
I have been invited too, some years ago, but they've scratched me out during the phone call I gave them :/
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Derek Moran
Remember Libby: they sent that 'jury notice' to LIBBY PATTERSON, not, Libby Patterson ;)
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Derek Moran
I would be MORE than happy to go- SERIOUSLY Pierre.....just not 'for free,' ive been there before a decade ago, its rather boring...good place to read a Trust Law book in pure silence though :D
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Pete Daoust
Derek, she must have signed something, saying that SHE IS THE PERSON.....
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Pete Daoust
Well, I had no time for that shit during these years, I had a drug run, and could not go away like that !!! :D
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Derek Moran
"I had a drug run" :/
..the election for Mayor in Toronto is in October
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Pete Daoust
And when I told them about a criminal record, regarding PIERRE DAOUST, they just said.....never mind SIR :D
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Derek Moran
" they just said.....never mind SIR"
..better than- MISTER Daoust, you get to stay!!
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Chris Evan
WHO has jury duty?
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Libby Patterson
dismissed for cause.
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Derek Moran
Libby: "HEY...why the fuck am i here doing this for FREE??"
Judge: "Case dismissed...you can go home now, Libby"
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Libby Patterson
no, i was more like, the judge explained that you have to use circumstantial evidence to help decide a case, and i asked him where does the law say that, so he read it from the book directions from judge to jury, and asked me if i could follow his instructions, and i said i would have a hard time convicting based on circumstantial evidence and i gasped the word *ridiculous* outloud in the courtroom when he said it was actually a law.
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Derek Moran
You should've asked him- "Are you sure that's the "LAW," or, is that really just a STATUTE-in-an-ACT, which is a BILL- that's a MERCANTILE INSTRUMENT, which is based upon contract/contracting, that ONLY has the FORCE-OF-LAW, by the CONSENT-of-the-GOVERNED though, right?"
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Brad Tullar
Wonder what they would say if a jury member asked for his oath
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Libby Patterson
<3
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David Johansen
conditional acceptance. you get that privelige because you registered to vote. last time i got one, a few years ago i wrote on it, "smoking section only".
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Libby Patterson
yes, i registered to vote when i moved last time. fun, well, they dismissed me for cause, and thanked me for my service. for two years, i am done.
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