Dec 03, 2013 2:44 AM

It looks weird that you are approving my posts Pete. :-) But thank you Sir!

Same feeling on this side :D

Drivers License = a PERMISSION granted to a PERSON

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/license

Yes. In the form of a Legal Title, correct?

Second, the Certificate of Live Birth is an Equitable Title, correct?

No, it's a CERTIFICATE :P

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/certificate

You look like a fucking LEGAL TITLE :D

Well, certificate has A LOT of meanings:

A document (such as a birth certificate) prepared by an official during the course of his or her regular duties, and which may be used as evidence for certain purposes.

A stock certificate is a paper representing a share of stock in a corporation that has been purchased by its holder.

What's a "Driving offense" ?? :D

A violation of Massachusetts General Laws ch 89 or 90 as far as I know!

LOL....and WHO gets to be the VIOLATOR ? :D

NAME...but I am asking about how the mechanics of it work.

I thought the title was split & they keep legal title (of everything) & you only have equitable title. Equitable just means a right of use. The drivers license & BC would both be both - govt holds legal, you hold equitable. confused

The mechanics ???.... hummm

1). a person gets created 2). you get to be misled about you being that person 3). they presume you as one of their employee as the person 4). They get to hit you, being a person, with 3000 acts and statutes

Hellosss.. !!! :D

But hey, if you guys wants to complicate that shit to a level where it gets impossible to comprehend......IT'S YOUR RIGHT :D

No one is listening down here Pete Daoust!!!

I am trying to understand where I am going wrong

Ho, I can help you with that too :D

shoot...

please

It's ALL ABOUT THE FUCKING SURETY, and WHO THE FUCK ACCOUNTS FOR IT :D

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

and they don't care! At all! I am sending out the second notice tomorrow trying to make them respond....but so far, they are just proceeding.

So I guess you can't understand the Nature and cause of these proceedings ???.....don't you ??? :(

That would be a mistake to presume that...and my notice says that!

You should eradicate off of your brain, the words, EQUITY and EQUITABLE until Febuary 2014 :D

Focus on SURETY, THEY ARE FUCKING AROUND WITH IT.......and tell them you would ACCEPT a bill to clear off that shit :D

And if you want the person you happen to have in your pocket, to DRIVE CARS.....well make that slave get a license to do so :P

Seriously Chris Evan.....tell them you would ACCEPT a bill to clear off that shit :D

Pete, the penalty is more that just money. These criminals want to put me in a cage. What is a bill going to do?

Ok, but then you have two choices

1).Re-read and Re-read and Re-read Ceit Butler exposure, and DO IT

2). Call these guys and OFFER them to send you a BILL to clear the matter.

DO NOTHING ELSE than these two things

Good Luck !!! Pete.

If you waiste your time on some pseud-equitable shit, you will END UP IN FUCKING JAIL :P

Thanks....and I am following Ceit's path! Just looking for more knowledge on this!

More knowledge ??? :/

If you just DO that, and you succeed...it will be not to bad of a KNOWLEDGE ?? :/

I liked you better before you got the ban button! :-P

I just had to be the first to say that!!!! :-D

Me, I hate you now !!!! :D

That must come with getting the ban button.

pre-requisite :D

This helps too....for the umpteenth time:

surety n. a guarantor of payment or performance if another fails to pay or perform, such as a bonding company which posts a bond for a guardian, an administrator, or a building contractor. Most surety agreements require that a person looking to the surety (asking for payment) must first attempt to collect or obtain performance from the responsible person or entity.

its both...derka derka...is it not property of another that one takes beneficial use of? was it not offered and then, was it taken? has value been attached to it by the beneficial user?.Hmmmm.....sounds like equitable title to me? Equitable title is the beneficial interest of a "person" whom equity regards as the real owner but the legal right vests with another.

Whats both?

OK, the equity is what's left over when ALL DEBTS are gone right ?

Unfortunatly, they are NOT gone, especially in the USA :D

So good luck with EQUITY :D

Pete Daoust Second, the Certificate of Live Birth is an Equitable Title, correct?

No, it's a CERTIFICATE ...See More 38 minutes ago · Like..........its both

go ahead bake your cake w/o the eggs

Last time I have checked, PIERRE DAOUST, the person, was PUBLICALLY minus 58k in debt :D

So, its a "Certificate of Equitable Title"?

In debt to who?

I wonder HOW CHRIS SCHULTE is..... :D

uggghhh

I have good reasons to believe that CHRISTOPHER EVAN SCHULTE is in debt to me

What do I care ??? ......its ALL debts....and I have NOTHING to do with it :P

In debt to YOU :D

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

ok Rick Carne....I am listening. But I don't understand the cake analogy. Can you use one involving ...ummm....construction? :)

:D ^^

Yeah Rick Carne, fuck off with the cooking :D

how long will you structure stand with out load bearing walls???

lick my eggs, pepe la pew

not long....load bearing walls = claim. Am I understanding this?

A driver's license allows a PERSON to register PROPERTY to her majesty (split title or create a trust on property: one of legal ownership, one of beneficial use). The legal owner will always be SURETY.

And something about driving...

So....No driver's license, can't register properties to her majesty ?? :/

They typically ask to see that person in your pocket? Correct?

I still don't get the analogy.....

OK, so if the person I happen to have in my pocket, has no drivers license, this person can't register a car.....is that what you are saying ?? :/

Yes!

You register it to get a license plate so you can drive around... You can go buy a car and keep it in your garage all you want. But as soon as it is on the road it requires a plate, with a driver...

Who told you that ?

I'm pretty sure each and every time I've registered a car they have wanted to see a Driver's License... Never once have they not asked to see it. For the sake of it being expired, or fines attached, etc.

If the registration is in the name of a corporation, incorporated business, or LLC, a Power of Attorney is required, unless the person signing is the officer of the company or manager/member of the LLC. The person’s title must be printed after the signature, (i.e. John Doe, Vice President).

Proof of insurance in the name of the business must be presented at the time of registration and will serve as verification of business name.

And insurance...

Yes, or that...

Beverly and Rick, do you think I can have the person I happen to have in my pocket buy a car, and have that car registered and have a plate, without a DRIVER'S LICENSE, if I say it's true

in conneticut...No Identification - Special Review: If someone does not have any of the required forms of identification, he or she can request an administrative review to determine eligibility to register a vehicle. You must complete and submit A Request for Administrative Review (form B-360). Review process may take up to 30 days. The review process:

— Determines whether you are a Connecticut resident and subject to state law regarding residency for registration requirements.

— Determines a need to register the vehicle in Connecticut.

— Determines who will operate the vehicle and is properly licensed.

(Please Note: The use of passport is primarily associated with obtaining a driver's license. It is not used as a form of identification for registering a vehicle.)

And, then the insurance company (for me anyways) wants a driving record and name(s), license no(s) of each and every driver.

The INsurance company has nothing to do in this picture AS OF YET.....the insurance company wants to know WHO WILL DRIVE....

It dosen't mean that the person who buy and register the car is the DRIVER

you dont need an Insurance company you can you can bond yourself with a surety company! Hahahahaa the mini-mun in California is 35,000 and you would post a percentage of that. with the surety company...if its a company vehicle thaey dont care who the driver is....

A driver's license allows a PERSON to register PROPERTY to her majesty ....this is not true

A driver's license allows a person to drive a car....nothing more....

A LEGAL ENTITY AND/OR PERSON can register a vehicle, creating a trust, bla bla bla

HAHAHA!!! :D

And Rick Carne, you should move to Quebec :P

Point being, anything APPLIED for would become a TRUST...

Marriage license...

Point being...

A driver's license allows a PERSON to register PROPERTY to her majesty ....this is not true

A driver's license allows a person to drive a car....nothing more....

:D :D :D ..... :P

ahhhh....now I am starting to get the analogy. hmmmmm.

It's about time :D ....what analogy though :D

ALL of them

try buying alcohol with out one hahahaa...and Pete their aint no surf in Quebec

course you could use the person on the passport...hahahaha

So unfair to say NOT to use your BC as ID and then require it.... WTF? What is the name for that? Ambiguous?

That's like a teacher giving you shit for smoking in the bathroom and then telling you that is the only place you can smoke... reminds me of my father... :/

They are requiring it to CHARGE, not as ID ? :/

I guess that is the "warning label"... like causes heart disease, personal problems, debt... :D

...fines, court disasters, etc

...general confusion about who you are...

Pete! make a picture/word thingy!

Every time they ask for the BC, it's because they are CHARGING something on it....it is NOT for identification purpose...

Oh, I know... but try to get a driver's license without it... or passport... sorry but I want to go to Vegas again!

Do you remember Beverly Girl-Brain Braaksma when they use to CALL YOUR NAME in the classroom and you had to say PRESENT ???

It all started there :D

birth certificate,Social security and drivers license all vest in the living man...VEST=confer or bestow (power, authority, property, etc.) on someone.

they all need a monkey to move

PIERRE DAOUST, yes I am here The day after, PIERRE DAOUST, yes I am here PIERRE DAOUST, yes I am here PIERRE DAOUST, yes I am here PIERRE DAOUST, yes I am here PIERRE DAOUST, yes I am here PIERRE DAOUST, yes I am here PIERRE DAOUST, yes I am here

After a while, it's obvious that I MUST BE PIERRE DAOUST :D

Now Chris Evan, they want you to act the exact same way on the 19th :P

What would you think would have happened if I would have said to the teacher....HEY, I AM NOT PIERRE DAOUST, I HAVE PIERRE DAOUST, so fuck you :P

Little pete in the corner ?? :D

well if you were in Catholic school that fricken Nun would beat the shit outta you with a ruler. hahahaha

EXACTLY....happened to me twice :D

So Derek... something you posted earlier I glanced at today... About the LBR being the SECURITY OF THE PERSON? I was with the understanding that the BC is EVIDENCE of this...

Since we're on this topic again...

it is a transmitting utility for commerce....hahaaa

Utility..a conduit for information...look it up...

Yes, because Canada is bankrupt and needs securities to carry on...

Im just tryin' to finish a page out of 'Pete's-Trust-Law-Book' before the library closes, Beverly... :*

Kisses? 80

Security

Protection; assurance; indemnification.

The term security is usually applied to a deposit, lien, or mortgage voluntarily given by a debtor to a creditor to guarantee payment of a debt. Security furnishes the creditor with a resource to be sold or possessed in case of the debtor's failure to meet his or her financial obligation. In addition, a person who becomes a surety for another is sometimes referred to as a "security."

Now, how the LBR could be this ????

Because it was the APPLYING part? I dunno... asking CLUBHOUSE DEREK where that came from...

I see more the LBR as the CREDITOR :P

THE BC the DEBTOR....

Maybe that is the CLAIM to the CREDITOR... :D

The Bank of Canada the SECURITY :D

The originating grantor...

Ah, therein showing WHOM has beneficial interest

LBR (Me) CREDITOR BC (Person) DEBTOR Bank of Canada SECURITY

Is that sounds fair ? :/

Without ME, no debt is possible, and without debt, no security is needed :/

It makes perfect sense !! :D

NO ? :(

Now, Chris Evan, point out to me where you see the fucking EQUITY in all this ? :D

debt is possible without you... just not to your PERSON

hmmm....we don't have any Birth Certificates in Massachusetts

Well Beverly Girl-Brain, No "ME" = No PERSON....

No me = No debt

A big factor in all this with the BC that flies under the radar Beverly, is the CONVEYANCE, of the powers of DISPOSITION and/or POWERS OF APPOINTMENT.....i BELIEVE, your Alberta 'Conveyancing and Law of Property Act' gives the definitions, as our same Act in Ontario, DOES NOT

Haaa shit Derek Moran, I was following good here, and you come along with this complicated shit again :(

Fuck it, I am going back in the other group :P

"Fuck it, I am going back in the other group"

..some 'admin' - pffffft! ;)

Anyway, Chris Evan, I hope all of this answers your quick questions ? :D

Ok Derek, but does the BC NOT clearly show whom has legal ownership, therefore SURETY? With all em lil signatures, etc?

Chris, do you have that bawston accent?

Yup! Norah, Derek, Mackximus, and Gail will probably all vouch for that!

I definitely pahk the cah in Havahd Yahd. But I get alotta idears...not all wicked good

I hate people with accent :(

I thinks I ams gonnas kills myselfs :(

My mama has an accent... it took high school and friends asking me about it to realize it... :D

Where is she from?

Mathew, do you have the accent?

Chris TOTALLY has an accent! Baaaaawstun.

Why didn't you interviwed Chris Norah ? :D

He left before I could get the interview. We only have 1 camera. And it was already in use. I would have though!

Hey Chris, what do you think about the seminar so far.

Ha well, it's soooooo cool....I mean FFFRRREEEEEDDDDDUUUMMMMBBBB !!!!!!!!!! :D :D

HAHAHAHA!!!!

Well....I think the seminar is good, but no one will send me a bill or a signed invoice. :-/

^^^^ I said that to Dean Clifford

Fuck, if I knew I could have passed on TV..!!!....fuck I should have go....fffuuccckk!!!!

Dude, i told you, but you were being a Mary!

Why you guys are so full of secrets ?? :/

YOU NEVER TOLD ME ABOUT THE TV THING CHRIS.. :(

I thought it was obvious. Didn't you see Dean mentioning all this new A/V equipment he was buying before the seminar??? What did you think he was gonna do with it?

only for freedumb porn... that's what it was for!

Shit.....DEAN, TV, COPS, ROPE, ADMIRAL, for $149.00.......shit fuck .....I feel so fucking stupid of not been there :(

What the hell are you guys talking about. On TV?

Plus, I killed a guy....you forgot that

Was the video used on TV????

On my TV, yes

He is French Canadian....He means video

Interweb is my tv

On the Television?

Like on the news??

HOLY SHIT, I was on TV?!

NO NO NO fuck, I have seen it all on my 60 inches screen TV, don't try to fuck me up here :/

Mackximus Minimus... :D

We want to obey the LAW... :D

HAHAHAHA!!!!!

WRONG FUCKING SEMINAR HAHAHAHAHAAH!!!! (oh fuck I am laughing now :D )

what the hell is going on!?

Its turning into a Fucks the Puppy thread....welcome Norah, this is what we get to put up with

You haven't seen your TV shot, with all these freemans ? (except Mackximus Minimus )

I grow brocolli, and I eat them, it's so fun heu heu heu

:D :D

:D it's all good Chris.

I gotta to get out and smoke a cigarette guys.......too much laughing, I'll wake up everyone in here :D

Fuck I would have gave another $149, just to see Chris Evan on my big screen Answering Norah Holloway's question:

Hey Chris, what do you think about the seminar so far :D

Chris Evan's answer

I don't know Norah, this place is filled with fucking fuctard with long hair, me, I have no hair, so what the fuck you want me to tell you ?

:D :D ....ok I am out for a smoke :D

:D what. the. hell. is. going. on? lol. Chris, I will interview you next time!

Camera or no camera?

....camera. definitely camera.

Perfect!!! Count me in!

Lol

PETE! you can send me your $149!

FFFREEEEEDDDUMMMBBBB !!!!!

You guys are WILD !!!!......you have no idea :D

I thought freedom cost a buck o five....

OH snap! Buck-o-five. freedom costs a buck-o-five.

I have no idea about Buck-o-Five :/

Snap? Watching Raising Hope much?

No, what's raising hope?

The only place I've ever heard that before :D

Its from a movie called Team America

Ohhhh, no way. I've been saying that for years. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE8BgQzyktE

freedom noun affranchisement, arbitrium, autonomy, civil liberty, decontrol, deliverance, discharge, disenthrallment, emancipation, empowerment, enfranchisement, entitlement, exemption, exemption from external control, exemption from restraint, extrication, franchise, franchisement, independence, leave, leeway, legal right, liberation, libertas, liberty, licentia, noninterference, permit, political independdnce, prerogative, privilege, redemption, relaxation of control, release, right to decide, room, self-determination, self-government, self-rule, unconstraint, unfettering, unrestraint

Fuck.....the word " discharge" is there :/

nice...freedom=discharge. :-D and legal right :-/

Legal rights is for PERSONS :P

PERSONS can't be free.... :-/

PERSONS aren't. They aren't free.

NOPE....persons = slaves :D

And I have one heck of a nice slave in my pocket :D ......and IT'S NOT MY FAULT :P

You Norah Holloway, you have an INDIAN slave in your pocket :D

Lucky you !!!

I have an INDIAN slave in my pocket, yes, yes I do. Does that make me a SLAVE OWNER? I don't OWN the slave. I have a slave, but I am not the slave.

Indian? you have a person in India?

A slave's MASTER.....and it's NOT YOUR FAULT

The owner just put it in your pocket, and they managed to can't take it back without YOUR AUTHORIZATION...isinit wonderful ? :D

Indian and Northern Affairs Canada

CERTIFICATE OF INDIAN STATUS- CERTIFICAT DE STATUT D'INDIEN

Family Name HOLLOWAY

Given Name Norah Jennifer

Registry No 15545458431321

is an Indian within the meaning of the Indian Act, chapter 27, Statutes of Canada (1985).

OK, I gotta go to sleep, will let sink in all the WISDOM I just wrote.......good night freeedummmbers :D

no, the DL is a permit, not a title.

No kidding !!!! :-D

Its a title! The permit is the legal title that is issued!

Title

In Property Law, a comprehensive term referring to the legal basis of the ownership of property, encompassing real and Personal Property and intangible and tangible interests therein; also a document serving as evidence of ownership of property, such as the certificate of title to a motor vehicle.

<<THERE ARE NO HOMONYMS IN LAW THERE ARE NO SYNONYMS IN LAW>> The Admiral

License = License Permit = Permit Asshole = Asshole :P

permit 1) v. to allow by silence, agreement or giving a license. 2) n. a license or other document given by an authorized public official or agency (building inspector, department of motor vehicles) to allow a person or business to perform certain acts. These can include building a structure, using a building, driving on the highway, conducting a retail business, and dozens of other activities. The purpose of permits is supposedly to guarantee that laws and regulations have been obeyed, but they also are a source of public revenue. (See: license)

In French we say: Permis de Conduire = Driver's License

License

The permission granted by competent authority to exercise a certain privilege that, without such authorization, would constitute an illegal act, a Trespass or a tort. The certificate or the document itself that confers permission to engage in otherwise proscribed conduct.

A license is different from a permit. The terms license and permit are often used interchangeably, but generally, a permit describes a more temporary form of permission. For example, if a homeowner seeks to make structural additions to her property, she may have to apply for permits from local land-use and Zoning boards. These permits expire on a certain date or when the work is finished. By contrast, the contractor who completes the work will likely hold a local license that allows her to operate her business for a certain number of years.

Licenses are an important and ubiquitous feature of contemporary society. Federal, state, and local governments rely on licensing to control a broad range of human activity, from commercial and professional to dangerous and environmental. Licenses may also be issued by private parties and by patent or Copyright holders.

<<Licenses may also be issued by private parties and by patent or Copyright holders.>> Do you see what I see here?

local governments rely on licensing to control a broad range of human activity, :D

It means, Aquilae has the ability to create LICENSE :D

Or RogueSupport ?? :/

It sure sound like what ever lisceneces any private party issues must be "matters of PRIVATE TRUST" to me! :D

Worth digging a bit

Copyright holders = Liened PERSON ?

When we LIEN the NAME, are not we deemed "copyright holder" of the NAME? We are first in line. We don't become copyright OWNERS, we just HOLD the copyrights for the NAME, therefore COPYRIGHT HOLDERS.

I might be wrong. So don't take my word for it. I'm just having better luck pulling stuff out of my ass, from now and then.

Chris Evan, maybe you know something we don't know, Or I have forgotten about. That happens to me, every once in a while. I and I HATE not knowing the facts. So please explain: when we get a drivers licence, why are title/tiles being created? And if there is a legal title, I guess an equitable title is also created? So, what am I missing? Thanks, Chris!

Scott called it "copyhold"

Anytime you ask for permission, a Trust is granted. A trust involves splitting a Title into 2 portions...equitable and legal. I think in the case of the Drivers License, the actual license is the Legal Title. Since they are "technically" still the copyhold of the NAME, they would have the Equitable rights.

But once we lien the NAME, we become the copyhold and the Legal Titel becomes trust property

To further this....I asked my bank why I couldn't have my negotiable instruments (cancelled checks) back at the end of the month since I bought them and they are my property....the lady pointed me to a clause in the Depositor agreement that said "....to replace checks with 'substitute checks'....this is a LEGAL copy of your check". What they have done with MY property is retained EQUITABLE rights to the instrument while giving me back LEGAL rights. This is one of the reasons why the so called "National Debt" has skyrocketed since 1997....Once this property that they are holding becomes abandoned (I think 3.5 years), they are re-securitizing it to get more Money on Account for themselves. This is the reason why Scott said to lien EVERY Account that belongs to you.

EVERYTHING is a TRUST!!!! EVERYTHING!

I think this is also why he said lien court docket numbers too....as those are a constructive trust using the NAME. Same as a bank account.

Thanks Chris, now I have some more home work. But in trust, in makes sense.

I hadn't read where Scot t had mentioned to LIEN all accounts with the LEGAL NAME. But I had concluded that it was a necessary thing to do, if the name became natter of private trust.

DL = 2 signatures, and a trustee. Dang , I had missed that! We hold legal title, therefore, surety when we sign. *slap!*

It was a long time ago....like June/July if my memory is correct! Liening is a public claim that you are the Equitable holder in a TRUST. It seems that EVERYTHING is either an express or constructive trust!

Remember the doorman at Dean's seminar???? He said he signed the license in his pocket "non-assumpsit"

This is ALL about having the superior claim, the LIEN to the NAME!

I think this is all correct, but, Ceit, if this is a stain shit, it would be a mistake....please forgive me!!! :-D

Hahaha!

Actually, this is wrong "This is the reason why Scott said to lien EVERY Account that belongs to you." That should read "This is the reason why Scott said to lien EVERY Account that you give VALUE to......your signature."

Yes, is about taking the VALUE for US. And since government is a TRUST, not a party/person, has no standing, and WE, being the ONLY PARTY WITH STANDING, and hold the SECURITY INTEREST on the NAME, can tell them... FUCK OFF!

I signed my registration "beneficiary"

Government is a TRUST....what do trusts do??? Hold property for the Beneficiary. Who is the Beneficiary? The one with EQUITABLE rights. Who has EQUITABLE rights? The one with a VALID LIEN! :-D

I think it is time to file this lien. :-D :-D :-D

Why? Because, FUCK OFF, that's why!

It's NOT a fucking EQUITABLE right, it's a CLAIM, :P

You are missing the point!!!!!!!! Equitable Right is Noticed by a Lien!!! A trust has 2 titles, Equitable and Legal That is ALL I am saying. I am not saying there is EQUITY, only RIGHTS to Equity.....thats it!

Ok, don't panic :D

Well you keep saying I am wrong with this Equitable Title thing and I am not!!! There is NO EQUITY, but there are RIGHTS....allegedly!

But there is NO EQUITY :(

If you are the shareholder in a corporation that is siphoning money OUT, what rights do you have? Only the rights to remove what is left, yes? Same thing....

Well....I guess even that would depend on the by-laws and Articles of Organization..... :-)

Before you can touch any EQUITY, all debts needs to be cleared

Thank "god" I always check things for myself, after I became an animal again. You two are confusing the hell out of me. :P

The minute that fucking PERSON was created, it was ALREADY in bedt......think about it !!!

And it will ALWAYS be... :D

Why? Trust is a splitting of a title into Equitable and Legal Titles. Legal has ALL the liabilities, Equitable gets all the Equity. The goal is to have all Equitable Claims. :-D

In debt to WHOM?

If you want to collect EQUITY out of it, DEBTS need to be cleared FIRST :P

TO THE FUCKING PRIVATE BANK :P

Where did they get it?

Air :P

NO!

And they let you be Admin??? pffft

:-D :-D :-D

From you....Your signature allows them to leverage your value. And if I am not mistaken, in Canada, your value is held by Her Majesty. In the States, I think it is held in the Treasury....

Banks are ONLY Money Exchangers - Scott Duncan. They are exchanging YOUR money on Account to Money of Exchange! :-D :-D :-D

Lou Manotti, are there any stain shits here?

Chris Evan, I am saying that WHEN the person is created, it's ALREADY in debt.....so therefore, there can't be any EQUITY regarding the person....

You asked....in debt to WHO, I said....PRIVATE BANKS

I haven't SIGNED fuckall on that part.......GOVERNMENT did signed as SURETY for that person....

So GOVERNMENT CREATED that fucking debt, which they call; PUBLIC DEBT

I am not talking about me, when I show up to a bank with my pen....

You are MIXING stuff :P

Maybe a little, but I have good reasons to believe that they are ALL in DEBT to ME!!!! :-D

LOL... :D (idiot) :P

A trust is created when Person A gives Property to Person B to benefit Person C. I have good reasons to believe that I am Person C. :-P

(Over the intercom) "Personnel from the 'Shit Stain Cleaning Department', please check aisles 5 and 7 for possible spillages."

Hahaha!

I called em too....I don't think there are any stain shits, but it is always safe to be corrected in here. :-D

Ok, Chris Evan, which property in being held in trust when you created a DL? This is not a tricky question, I just want to know your reasoning.

*sigh* :(

AND.....if IN FACT I am the Beneficiary, well, then, I will have to tell them by liening the "transmitting utility". Then they will know who I am!

http://my.courthousedirect.com/blog/bid/336876/What-s-the-Difference-Between-Legal-Title-and-Equitable-Title

The right to be recognized as a Person. Its got a picture and a signature. You give up your right to travel and in return, you get a Legal Title with YOUR picture on it and Privilege. They are holding your Equitable Rights and you are exercizing your Legal rights through the constructive Trust.

Ok, Chris, you say " A trust is created when Person A (ME) gives Property to Person B (DMV/GOVERNMENT) to benefit Person C (GOVERNMENT). I have good reasons to believe that I am Person C (GOVERNMENT). "

Is this what you meant?

Yes...but not in the Drivers License example. More like this:

Person A - (ME) Person B - (Government) Person C - (Copyhold of the NAME)

*sigh* :'(

Person A - (ME) Oh....you ARE a person still ??? :/

If there is a PROPERTY involved here, would it not be OUR VESSEL? I'm just trying to "identify" what is the PROPERTY being HELD in TRUST..

No...you know what I meant!

I have no fucking idea what you "mean"

Property = rights. Property can be intangible.

Property = Legal, legal = PERSON

And you are NOT a person :P

Oh, THANK YOU! That is what we are talking about. Our rights can be sold via contracts. Exchanging rights, for privileges.

Thats my understanding :-)

<<The right to be recognized as a Person. Its got a picture and a signature. You give up your right to travel and in return, you get a Legal Title with YOUR picture on it and Privilege. They are holding your Equitable Rights and you are exercizing your Legal rights through the constructive Trust.>>

Chris Evan looks at us as says:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsOfnW_sxNA

You guys looks like Martin Luther King, in this thread :D

Why?

Why?

You are trying to find a warm spot for HUMANS in this legal world :D

New Guru in Town, please explain: What did I say that would make you believe I am trying to find a warm spot for humans in this legal world, for asking questions about what Chris was trying to say?

I ask because, just like Aerosmith, I don't wanna to miss a thing.

You are a bright man, Pete, that is why I ask the question. Maybe I'm missing something. :(

More Chris Evan, sorry ....I said you guys, but I should have said CHRIS :D

Really? I don't see it. Please show me.... :-D :-D

I mean it's NOT a bad thing....it's fair, but you will get shot one day Chris if you try too hard :D

HAHAHAHA!!!! :D

Getting shot sounds like the opposite of my goal!!!! :-D

So it was for Martin, John F, Robert ...etc... :D

This thread is really missing Stuart Stone and Derek Moran. More COWBELL!!!

Oh....and Dean Clifford.... I forgot Dean fuck... :(

This makes me think...have any Canadians got shot for this shit?

Nope.....we are NOT stupid :P

just out to find a cowbell! :D

I have a slight accent, not as thick as yours Chris Evan :-). 312 comments for a quick question. How many comments for a lengthy question?

I have a extreme THICK accent :P

Extremely* Pete, but you've come a long way! Your engrish has improved!

Mackximus Minimus <<The right to be recognized as a Person. Its got a picture and a signature. You give up your right to travel and in return, you get a Legal Title with YOUR picture on it and Privilege. They are holding your Equitable Rights and you are exercizing your Legal rights through the constructive Trust.>>

I like what Mackximus Minimus is saying here...except it's NOT your picture anymore...it's the document's picture (you didn't put it there, someone else did)...it may be a likeness of you, but it's not you...same as the signature is now the document's signature (if it's a plastic laminated licence like in the UK, then it's not possible that you signed it...you may have signed some piece of paper & the signature copied onto the licence, but YOU didn't sign it). Winston Shrout is very clear on this.

Waive the right to be recognised as a person...if I have lead the court to believe etc.....please forgive me.

'I am able to function in the capacity of sole authorised administrator for the person/this matter if the court pleases, but if I have led the court to believe that I have assumed surety for this matter or that I, a man, am a name derived from a public document, would be a mistake, so please forgive me.'

If it gets too hot in the kitchen, then pay the bloody thing & get out...learn from the experience & come back stronger next time...or if you have a higher risk tolerance, ride it out & see where it leads.

ALWAYS ask questions, answer a question with a question.

Continually halt proceedings until your questions are answered, otherwise it is not possible for you to be able to understand the nature and cause of the proceedings...make it clear that you are honourable & peaceful & here to help the court out because some sort of mistake has obviously been made...

This is just theory from my end...I've not stood in your position Chris Evan

*golf clap*

Another of these golf claps , and you're out the door :D

*opera clap*

At least, make it REAL for fuck sakes :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAEA1KzDynI

I can't help it ;this makes me laugh so hard... Your an administrator... you get to enforce things... I think of this, I can't help it... all due respect of course :-D It's not my fault.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnlIWpZSPXU

Every encounter with corporations is a new contract offer. Cops, courts, McDonald's etc... Once you make it very clear that no commerce is expected or implied the burden is on them to prove a debts origin regarding any charges...

Every question they ask is designed to engage you commercially... "He who creates owns"... I didn't create the driving license, therefore I don't own one...No contract, no surety, no money...

That's my understanding... Equitable and legal title discussion I find confusing... :(

the end is the best...

Equity rules cause it is title to the collateral (value) that gives the title its value... house, car, person. etc. Legal title is the right of use with surety.

Legal title is ownership/surety. Beneficial interest is right of use. Split title = TRUST

I can't believe you guys are still going on here :P

As I have just joined the conversation Beverly, your offer of surety is recognised and refused... :p

What's you? Who's you? ... One just showed up here :-)

what he said..

Next time Chris Evan, post your "quick" questions on Mika's page please :P

The answer to every question isnt smoke a joint and live in a van!

Who lives in a van? I have a mobile production unit and a place that is separate to lay my head. Assumption rebutted. The Joint thing, fuck you. It was a direct response to surety that Beverly implied by this thread... which has some good stuff... wait a minute... Are you typing to me?

and at least its not down by the river anymore. :-D

What's wrong with administrating, WHILE smoking a fatty?

In fact, weed smoking IS part of the COVENANT of my TRUST. As trustee, if you are ever offered weed in my jurisdiction, and should you refuse to at least one puff, we'll chop you into pieces, and feed you into a piranha tank. We take breach of TRUST quite seriously around here. :D

*flings poo*

I can imagine myself in a camper, 4 kids, wife, a dog a cat and some stupid fish, running around the country, looking for some stuff to do, to feed everyone.....

And yelling......

FFFFRRREEEEEDDDDUUMMMBBBB !!!!

:D

FREEEEEEEDUMMMMMMB!!!

Of course not Jay!! Dont accept surety so easily. I was talking about Mika. :-)

:D

Look, Sir Mika is alone.....he is alone, no wife, no kids...fuck!!!...I just don't get it....I know guys that have never heard about all this stuff, and they are WAY MORE FREE that Sir Mika.....trust me :D

What's the deal exactly with this freeman shit ??....no one knows !!!

What do they want exactly...???

I looked at the definitions for "freeman" in some of the most "trusted" dictionaries. From what I can tell, "freeman" is a TITLE, and it could only be GRANTED. You cannot call yourself "freeman" on your own, SOMEONE has to grant that TITLE.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what I am reading.

<<What is FREEMAN? This word has had various meanings at different stages of history. In the Roman law, it denoted one who was either born free or emancipated, and was the opposite of “slave.” In feudal law, it designated an allodial proprietor, as distinguished from a vassal or feudal tenant. (And so in Pennsylvania colonial law. Fry’s Election Case,71 Pa. 308, 10 Am. Rep. 098.) In old English law, the word described a freeholder or tenant by free services; one who was not a villein. In modern legal phraseology, it is the appellation of a member of a city or borough having the right of suffrage, or a member of any municipal corporation invested with full civic rights.A person in the possession and enjoyment of all the civil and political rights accorded to the people under a free government.

Law Dictionary: http://thelawdictionary.org/freeman/#ixzz2mSJTM9Dd>>

<<Black's Law Dictionary (9th edition) defines Freeman as 1. A person who possesses and enjoys all the civil and political rights belonging to the people under a free government. 2. A person who is not a slave. 3. Hist. A member of a municipal corporation (a city or a borough) who possesses full civic rights, esp. the right to vote. 4. Hist. A freeholder. Cf. VILLEIN. 5. Hist. An allodial landowner. Cf. VASSAL. - also written free man.[2]>>

<<freeman (frmn) n. 1. A person not in slavery or serfdom. 2. One who possesses the rights or privileges of a citizen.>>

<<freeman noun \?fr?-m?n, -?man\ : a free man : a man who is not a slave Full Definition of FREEMAN

1 : one enjoying civil or political liberty 2 : one having the full rights of a citizen See freeman defined for English-language learners — See freeman defined for kids — Examples of FREEMAN

<after eight years of residency, you will be granted the status of freeman> >>

In Pete's Law dictionary, 2nd edition, it will be

Free Man,.

Definition: A Man with a penis, preferably alive, that cost NOTHING.

:D

So now, Mika can't be a Free Man ?? :/

Neither do I :(

Correct me if I am wrong here ... :D

Sovereignty is the power of a state to do everything necessary to govern itself, such as making, executing, and applying laws; imposing and collecting taxes; making war and peace; and forming treaties or engaging in commerce with foreign nations.

PTSD ?? :/

I received orders from the Admiral, that the next dumbass who uses ACRONYMS, to kick him out the boat :P

:D

I say that anyone describing oneself with ANY word from a dictionary, fell for the trap.

It's part of the programming that we somehow feel the need, because we have been programmed that way, to "describe" ourselves using WORDS.

Then we go to the dictionaries very conveniently handed to us, and look to other AUTHOR/AUTHORITY for THE words that would BEST describe US. And we end-up describing US with THEIR titles/words.

Like "Christians" say "I am a MAN!" Well, let's look for the definition of MAN. A BOND SERVANT and/or a VASSAL. What is a VASSAL? They sucked the Nobles' dick. Who wrote the "bible"? The Nobility.

I am ME! :P

So......about this lien. After one files proper Public Notice, how does one lien the NAME? I have heard a couple different ideas. One school of thought seems to be to lien the NAME for say $2 mil per year every year (or break that down into months...but you get the idea). The other is lien it for say $100 mil one time.

I am not sure what is best although I see the merits of both. One way, it doesn't raise any suspicion, the other is flat out obvious and should stick out at the Secretary of State.

What are your thoughts?

If you can account for it. It is your value, you appraise it, you determine it; by some sort of accounting method, like a simple 40k x 70years=1.5million, this asst goes into the asset column...Make sure you include something like this in your financing statement... Stuart Stone would you be so kind as to review the grammatical correctness?

We herby declare on this day November 30.2012:

The name Jason Fredrick Le Blanc, is Private property Along with ALL Titles, Patents, Letters Patent, Property and Assets including but not limited to; all accounts/contracts derived from said name on any document.

Questions regarding this NOTICE may be addressed to the DULY AUTHORIZED TRUSTEE CORPORATION, [ 1732964 ALBERTA LTD.]

By registered mail addressed:

To: The Original Trust Attention: Accounting Dept. PMB 206 204-1440-52 ST, NE Calgary, Alberta T2A-4T8

Authorized By: The Board Of Trustees, PRIVATE CORPORATE SEAL 1732964 ALBERTA LTD. All RIGHTS RESERVED

All administrated by the charted accountants of the administrative body of the coproation

So there is no YOU...

I am being a king. First Director, CFA whatever the fuck I want cause its private... and the corporation ACCOUNTS for the SURETY.

Got it Boobies....but that 1.5 mil can be fractionally banked and worth significantly more.

I like boobies :-D Um.. so what does that have to do with your value, its private and unless you do something, it is only valuable to you.. on the books you create under title... We becomes part of the vocabulary as well, kind of like nobility... and if your own currency is the only method to deal with you in commerce, by exchanging the fiat currency into fucktard coin. no debt created.

Not a slag on bit coin , more inline with us the fucktard chimp types. Or for me former fucktard i renounce that title. Now just a tard in tardis... :-D

So you want to fractionalize bank currency? you want to do what they do? do you know something I don't, Did I miss the point? or what. :-)

Once its on the books you can borrow against it... Creating credit by liquidating assets is a way of generating money of exchange, your own currency the corporate Canadian tire money thing, you are a private bank act as a currency exchange which is all banks do, so I don't know what you are getting at Chris Evan.

No....I am saying that you lien isn't enough. It is worth MORE to them because of what they can do with it. I am under the impression that the lien KILLS the Value they had in the instrument, so the lien would have to be enough to kill it. I am thinking $60 mil....

Documentary Draft....I think this is important, but I don't know much about it........

Still...?

As long as you can account for it.

Mackximus Minimus: I looked at the definitions for "freeman" in some of the most "trusted" dictionaries. From what I can tell, "freeman" is a TITLE, and it could only be GRANTED. You cannot call yourself "freeman" on your own, SOMEONE has to grant that TITLE.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what I am reading...

Correct...In some of the UK statutes I read through regarding council tax/liabilities of the inhabitants becoming the liabilities of the council, there are references to Freemen.

The title is obtained (paraphrasing here), by declaring yourself a freeman & then registering same with the local mayor (kinda defeats the purpose)...the title can then be passed down through the family.

The change in status has been repealed from the legislation & I couldn't be arsed to go digging for it.

The value of the lien on the person needs to be tangible & accountable (which is what your accountant is for), to validate the claim of value in the ledger...and to keep it objective and at arm's length from the corporation's valuation.

Scott mentioned something along the lines of earning potential x 65 or 70 years.

Plus whatever value is already in the name...this is why I have established (and am still establishing a few liens against other parties), to raise the book value of the person, prior to liening the name into the private trust.

Derek Moran explains how the money supply increases due to fractional reserve lending, blowing out the money of account versus cash reserves...you may wish to use a similar extrapolation for the value of the person when creating the lien.

If the accountant can validate it & add it to book value, then it is doable...just depends on the creativity of the accountant...that's what the accountant is for: to keep the valuation at arm's length from you ie: a third party confirming the value.

I'm a bit more conservative: Earning potential x 75 years plus other asset value plus value of liens = current dollar value of person to be liened.

Reserve the right to determine current value in gold, silver, oil, bitcoins, average value of land/real estate, factor in inflation & periodically revalue against these tangibles (useful if the currency gets hyperinflated through printing, so your lien value can blowout/be recalculated in accordance of the devaluation of the currency).

The public notice only needs to notify the property that has been liened (property description) & into a private trust (XYZ Private Trust) held by ABC Corporation.

Boobie's description is more than adequate...intent is key...and the book value can be borrowed against for corporate activities :D

We are in a system that runs on title, given to us and we are berthed. So we turn and take them. By proper administrative process. Through a trusted third party. Just like the accountants do everywhere in this construct.

70 years = working life plus retirement.

I need an accountant, PRONTO!

I need a DIRTY accountant... muahahaha!

The Admiral said:<<Discovery of computer science is inevitable, and accountants will find it first. I'm not going to find any gold in the Klondike if I don't go to the Klondike. You're not going to find computer science if you don't go to where math is used constantly...

... Bookkeeping's a boring job, isn't it? Those who have been saddled with such a task will know what I'm describing when I speak of numbers dancing in your head, and you, being a pattern-seeking mammal, indulge yourself in the boredom by seeing how you make these numbers dance in a pattern you have not yet seen. This is actually a very profound process and a lot of people miss it. The last thing the Romans wanted were smart bookkeepers. Bookkeepers make the rules. None of you see that. Watch “The Agenda” with Steve Paikin. VALE and the Chartered Accountants of Ontario sponsor the show, and they'll proudly tell you how long they've been setting PUBLIC POLICY. None of you are aware of this, because none of you think; and Steve Paikin's shows are for people who can think, so there's zero risk of discovery. You can see for yourself, your masters laughing at your idiocy...

... 3: Get ANY accountant to manage the books of the corporation. You direct the corporation as FIRST DIRECTOR, and establish roles (President/CEO Vice President, etc) which is how the UNITED STATES was formed...

The accountant EXECUTES YOUR TASKS within the framework. To establish a trust, write it down, and have it witnessed and notarized. The end. Only shareholders of your corporation are recognized by the trust...

... ACCOUNTANTS only have jurisdiction over MONEY OF ACCOUNT. MONEY OF EXCHANGE is YOUR JURISDICTION.>> Scott Duncan

The power of the accountant. Is to create.

ACCOUNTANTS only have jurisdiction over MONEY OF ACCOUNT. MONEY OF EXCHANGE is YOUR JURISDICTION

Amen to that! :D

I got fired by my CPA a month ago when I ran this by him. Maybe if one of us finds a good one, we can refer him amongst the group! :-D

when I ran this by him: Ran what ?? :/

A director under charter; is accounting properly.

Right on...sorry for being vague. When I told him about the Trust and accounting for it and the Trustee corporation. He said he didn't feel comfortable working with me anymore. :-/

he got an itch?

I have used this guy for 4 years for the corporation I am in charge of.....

And WHY have you told him this ? :/

ummmm....I needed him to do the accounting for it, so I explained it to him.

Oh fuck you are all still here?

Who is still here ?? :/

You only need to give numbers to these CPA, nothing else... :P

mhhhhm

Why the fuck a CPA needs to know the color of my short for ?? :/

Hey CPA, here are the numbers, fix that sharp and clean please.....Thanks

That's about the discussion I have with the CPA :/

Well....I give the people who work for me ALL the information needed to adequately do the job for me that I need them to. I t seems relevant to tell him what the relationship between the entities he is working with

WHY ?? :/

Thats how I run my business. I like well informed MULES

They don't bug me with stupid shit when they have enough information

MULES are NEVER well informed idiot, that's why they are called MULES... :(

OMFG..!!!!! :(

Well..you have the wrong MULES.

Where is Scott ??? :(

Chris Evan, this kind of MULES?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX_tE0M3ZCI

I have the wrong MULES ????? :/

This isn't a forum on how to run one's business, we clearly differ in our methods....lets get back to the hiring an accountant. :-D

OK, let me help here Chris, pull out the yellow pages, and go to "A", you'll find ACCOUNTANT at one point.......call them all, and explane to each of them HOW you are running YOUR LIFE.......and good luck !!! :D

Accountant:

Definition: One that keeps, audits, and inspects the financial records of individuals or business concerns and prepares financial and tax reports.

Ok Einstein...Stuart stated to have an accountant determine book value. How do you do this without telling him ALL THE NECESSARY SHIT????

What NECESSARY shit ? :/

Great question....and since I have NO IDEA how to determine book value, I told him what I thought he would need to know

Let him AUDIT, INSPECT the financial records, and tell him to PREPARE the financial and tax reports :D

He might come back with a few questions, just answer them :/

If you tell him, Hey, I want to lien the person I have, establish a trust, put that sucker IN TRUST, and appoint the corp as trustee, so the government won't fuck around with the person's surety no more....

He might feels a little tingly, and say.....heu, humm, well, never mind, I will replace you with another monkey :P

I never said anything about a lien...only about a Private Trust and a corporate Trustee. THATS IT!

Imagine if you would have followed up with the rest of the shit :D

FFFFFFFFRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDUUUUUUUMMMMMMMBBBBBBB!!!!!!!!!!!!

So.... back to shit that actually matters. How can we determine the book value and/or amount of the lien?

With a calculator :P

What gives value to that person ?

And who ACCOUNTS for this?

who accounts for what ?? :/

The book value you got from your calculator.

Why would someone ACCOUNTS for this ?? :/

There is 8736 hours in a year right ??

<sigh> Stuart wrote this..is this not valid??

The value of the lien on the person needs to be tangible & accountable (which is what your accountant is for), to validate the claim of value in the ledger...and to keep it objective and at arm's length from the corporation's valuation.

i think you are undervaluing the "Accountant" aspect of this. :-)

I dunno, ask Stuart !! :/

The ACCOUNTANT will AUDIT the books, and if the books balances, he will put his signature on it :P

Now the corporation has liened a PERSON right ?

What does gives value to that person ?

Helloosss !! :D

Hey, accountant, the corporation has a lien on a person, and the lien value is......and you pull out the LEGAL paperwork concerning that lien, and BINGO !!!, the accountant has all the LEGAL stuff he needs to do his JOB.

No ?? :/

Accountant "Can you tell me what this $100,000,000 lien on your balance sheet is please?"

HAHAHA!!!!....

"I see you did $363,000 in sales last year and invested $93,500 in BitCoins, held in trust, can you explain this to me?"

You go year by year idiot :D

Scott said that?

NO NO, that one has no questionings to answer...no no no

If I say it, it's no good ??? :/

:D

I remember Scott saying something different than that.

Let say you go YEAR BY YEAR....you take 8736 hours and multiply by the amount you think has a logical meaning to you......

If the NAME is liened for $1 mil, that leaves too much left for the vultures to want

and the next year, you do the same, and adjust if you see fit...

NO NO NO!!!! What about the VALUE that I added BEFORE? you are missing the point

It has to be a year by year thing Chris, think about it ??

I have signed LOTS of negotiable instruments before this date!!! Those NEED to be ACCOUNTED FOR!!!!

I have added LOTS of VALUE!!!! Think about it

I signed 2 mortgages....multiply those by 10 for fractional reserve banking. I have signed $100,000's worth of checks....again, multiply by 10. I have signed $100,000s worth of equipment and truck loans....again, multiply by 10...get it?

Well, if the corp has a lien, on something, for a million dollars, and has ALL the legal document concerning that lien, it will fit PERFECTLY in ANY business books :P

But if you want to do CRAZY stuff, it will look CRAZY..... :D

HAHAHAHAHA!!!...FFFRREEEDDDDUUMMBB !!!! :D

Where is Scott?

And you don't have to remind me, I know you LOVE signing stuff !! :D

400+ members, and not one single fucking accountant? Are we at the mercy of Pete Daoust's Gestapo's calculator skills?

I have sent "NEW ORIGINAL" "VOID" to some stuff. ;-)

Thank you Mackximus!!!

Thank you Mackximus !!!

Here is a gift, from me to you Chris Evan :D

Value

The estimated or appraised worth of any object or property, calculated in money.

How about using the FINANCIAL DICTIONARY since we are talking about finances:

value The worth of all rights arising from ownership of property

:-D :-D :-D

We are talking LEGAL :P

Pete, I think you have this one wrong here....the idea is to lien the NAME so it is DEAD. Tickling it with a small lien isn't gonna do shit!

8760 hrs/year at ....errr....say $50/ hour. $438,000....who is gonna care about that?

I like more $114.47 / hour, but it's up to you :P

Still....$1 mil...big friggin deal!

The Security is probably worth 50x that

Oh yes it is :D

The Security is probably worth 50x that ??...where have you got that info ???

And the "Oh yes it is" was for the million a YEAR :P

"probably" I really don't know.

So you don't know, and you pulled that number RIGHT from your ass ? :D

A Title 7 broker can supposedly look it up

What if I tell you that the security of PIERRE DAOUST worth MINUS 58,000.00 ??

Yup! Right from my ass...however, I am pretty sure Scott was in that range when he was mentioning it..Mackximus? Do you remebmer?

Not this AGAIN!!! So, is the lien worth minus $58,000 too???

NO IDIOT !!!!.....:D

Why am I an idiot?

"Accounting-Speculation-Fest" in progress. "Learn" at your own risk. :D

You two can confuse a hermaphrodite about which sex he/she actually is.

Hahahaha!

I am learning here, as well. I don't know shit about accounting. :(

I don't recall what you are mentioning, Chris.

WHO THE FUCK GIVES VALUE to that person ???????

I DO !!! :P

If we were measuring in fucking coconuts, and the fucking thing was worth 50 coconuts, I would think the lien would be for 50 fucking cocnuts.

You do what?

Chris Evan, please, WHO GIVES VALUE TO THAT PERSON ?

ME

So why you think you are liening the fucking security of it ?? :/

NO....WE ARE LIENING THE FUCKING VALUE TO MAKE IT WORTHLESS TO THEM!!!

What is your country NATIONAL debt as we speak ?

The US is about $17 tril

And HOW many PERSONS there is in your crazy country ?

Scott would have had this straight by now....this is like a couple monkeys trying to fuck a foot ball

errrr.....IDK, 300,000,000.

Well, Scott is gone fishing because he is fed up with monkeys.....so

His probably laughing reading this shit.

Do you have a Black's Law 9th, Chris?

OK, so take this crazy number 17t, and divide it by 300 millions

No, I use the online dictionaries

$56,666.00

Pete, MY signature has nothing to do with that. That is what the UNITED STATES owes people. MY signature has created money that the BANKS are using!! The national debt has very little to do with this!

OH,....same as here in Canada ??? :D

This is about the banks and the creation of money

The person you have in your pocket has 56,666 in debt agree ??

You just don't get it......

OK, stay with me please Chris Evan

Chris...look up American Depository Receipt ;)

Is it true that the person you happen to have in your pocket, is 57k in debt ?

IS THAT TRUE ^^^^

(in the US) a negotiable certificate of title to a number of shares in a non-US company that are deposited in an overseas bank.

Fuck....I quit :(

Its a transmitting utility! My signature for that person has created money for the banks....that is the issue. Yes, it represents $57k in debt for ONE corporation...but others have used it for their gain!

The shares for the PROVINCE OF ONTARIO are traded on the Luxembourg Exchange. Scott never discussed that, but he admitted that to me when i brought it up that in fact that was true.

But you never HEAR about what the share-price of the PROVINCE OF ONTARIO is being traded on the Luxembourg exchange, do you?

..how much do you think your share of the PROVINCE OF QUEBEC is, Pete- who KNOWS/HELLOSSSSSSSSSSSS?

a title 7 broker can look up securities.

Any Title 7 brokers here to show Pete where he is mistaken???

I have solid proof, that PIERRE DAOUST is in debt for 58k

All the rest of what you say, I HAVE NO PROOF of it.....do you ??

So if PIERRE DAOUST gets liened, it will be for $114.47 / hour for the whole year....because as per the SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR of PIERRE DAOUST, that is the VALUE I can GIVE to it......

This is HOW I get all this....any takers ?? ...if you are, please provide ACCURATE info with solid fucking PROOFS... :P

Sorry Derek Moran, I am NOT in this to THINK the truth, I am in this to KNOW the truth.....and so far, NO ONE BROUGHT me a SOLID proof of ANY shares value concerning PIERRE DAOUST....sorry :(

And plus, apparently it's ALL FUCKING DEBTS ... remember ?? :P

Yes- you mentioned Kirsten 'I-think-she's-hotter-now-that-I-know-she's-partied-with-Depeche Mode-before' Carlstrom had this done...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snILjFUkk_A

FFFRREEEEDDDUMMMBBB !!! :D

She did! And she told me in confidence that it is worth significantly more than Pete is saying!

And my grand mother was doing blow jobs :P

Apparently :D

Scott Duncan: "Money" is debit, AND, CREDIT"

that it is worth significantly more than Pete is saying!: PROOF PLEASE :P

Bring me the fucking FACTS :P

Fucking freedummbers :D

Now, try to imagine me, in court, with the Notice of Mistake, in front of these cocksuckers :D

Muhahahahaha!!!!

<sigh> Whatever.......

ANY TAKERS !!!!!

Prove to me that PIERRE DAOUST's worth eleventy billions dollars please :D

And you'll see a fucking crazy administrator in ACTION :D

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

FFFRREEEDDDUMMMBBB !!!! :D

Rick, what do you think the average Birth Certificate is worth? Basically, give/take, what is a good lien amount to start with in rendering the Security useless to them?

Rick Carne, how can you PROVE the average BC worth anything ? :D

Maybe Rick can resurrect this abortion we call a thread!

and set us in the right direction

:-D :-D :-D

Yeah, maybe Rick Carne can prove something :D ....in the mean time ...

I have solid proof, that PIERRE DAOUST is in debt for 58k

All the rest of what you say, I HAVE NO PROOF of it.....do you ??

So if PIERRE DAOUST gets liened, it will be for $114.47 / hour for the whole year....because as per the SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR of PIERRE DAOUST, that is the VALUE I can GIVE to it......

This is HOW I get all this....any takers ?? ...if you are, please provide ACCURATE info with solid fucking PROOFS...

Pete, it isn't worth ANYTHING to me eve after it is liened....it is about what THEY perceive it is worth and making it useless!!!! They perceive it is worth A LOT!

Who are THEY ??

They = the trading market...banks...etc

and what the fuck do I care about these strangers PERCEPTIONS ?

You are missing the point here....

What do you want exactly Chris Evan, go by what THEY think, or what YOU know is true ??? :/

I get what you are saying...but you are not seeing the whole picture.

I am NOT missing the point Chris, no I am not.....I see EXACTLY where you are.....and I am just NOT there

ok....lets agree to disagree for now. Maybe someone will show us where to find the answer. I am out for now.....

I am in for the TRUTH.....since the beginning....I am fed up with THEIR lies......I will NOT embarque in it......

Does Blake know about this stuff?

ME TOO!!!! 100%

I have the answer ! :/

You want me to post it again ??

NO!

Fuck off, I'll do it anyway :P

I have solid proof, that PIERRE DAOUST is in debt for 58k

All the rest of what you say, I HAVE NO PROOF of it.....do you ??

So if PIERRE DAOUST gets liened, it will be for $114.47 / hour for the whole year....because as per the SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR of PIERRE DAOUST, that is the VALUE I can GIVE to it......

This is HOW I get all this....any takers ?? ...if you are, please provide ACCURATE info with solid fucking PROOFS..

But apparently, my grand mother was doing blow jobs... :D

Here's some comments Dean has made to me in the past:

Dean Clifford: The BC was valuable consideration for something of value you deposited, period. They are bankrupt, and your deposit technically has no dollar value because it is entirely dependent upon how many worthless notes are in circulation. So, they had to give you something, a note, that did not have a face value. A token, redeemable for......something.......sooooo close Derek, keep going. You're dancing on it, but looking up. hahahaha

Dean Clifford: "Scott has conceded to me that CANADA the corporation's shares trade on the Luxembourg market- SO, i think what you're trying to tell me Dean, is that my BC is REDEEMABLE for the DIVIDEND-PAYMENTS for the SHARE they gave me thats safely sitting in the Bank of Canada"........and.........not just that.........

Dean Clifford: The BC was valuable consideration for something of value you deposited, period.

What the fuck did I deposited ??? what is it, I don't fucking REMEMBER that part... ??

CREDIT

I just can't remember.....what CREDIT ?

WHAT CREDIT Chris Evan ??? :/

They created a debt out of the surety, borrowed against the collateral ( the vessel with the bond attached for insurance) from the banks, someone is accountable for the value of that debt. One equitable share of the consolidated revenue fund.

when someone was born.

^^^ yup.

OK, but lets talk about ME, not someone......I have no souvenirs having deposited CREDIT in anyones shit....do you ???

Ok...lets talk about you. what the hell are you talking about?

:D

.I have no souvenirs having deposited CREDIT in anyones shit....do you ???

So, what is this thing then? What does this CERTIFICATE certify? Why is it a Security? Who is extending the credit?

WOW!!!....now you are talking :D

You are talking in fucking circles lately....just fucking write what you are thinking!!!!!

Yes the title ( registration, bill of sale and the birth certificate, the bond, I equate it with owning a vehicle, that is what a vessel is, vessels need to be insured, that is the birth certificate ,for the vessel we walk around in. I have a hunch if I take both to the bank of canada with a copy of the lien, interesting thing will happen. Or this could be straight ass language...

We will find out soon.

There is a branch downtown.

There is no circles at all in this Chris :(

.I have no souvenirs having deposited CREDIT in anyones shit....do you ???

you carry it in your back pocket

And it's certainly not my fault !! :D

I do not comprehend what you are stating, why you are stating it, or what the purpose of it is! We know its not your fault, we know its not you, we know you had no idea of this shit going on....but some shit happened.

You need to go buy a sense of humour :-D

Me ?? :/

Maybe I am just tired. :-( Yeah....i am in a pissy mood I guess. See y'all later

no not you, that other

I am just saying Chris Evan, if Dean Clifford would have thrown me something like this.....I would have bombarded him with questions.......really, no ??

They are bankrupt, and your deposit technically has no dollar value because it is entirely dependent upon how many worthless notes are in circulation.

WHAT DEPOSIT FUCK !!! :D

So, they had to give you something, a note, that did not have a face value. A token, redeemable for......something....

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS "SOMETHING" :D

And you accuse "ME", talking in circle ??......what's that if it's not HUGE fucking circles ? :D

"What the fuck did I deposited ??? what is it, I don't fucking REMEMBER that part... ??"

Pete- theres a reason why when i ask the Registrar General's office- "Where can i find the ORIGINAL COPY of my LONG FORM STATEMENT OF LIVE BIRTH RECORD"...they either dont get back to me, OR, give me an answer to a question i never asked! ;)

And what is the reason Derek Moran :)

Guys, title... the registration of live birth is a title, we have the legal rights to it; till we do not, The Equity is in the bond, which is our value, they did some sort of calculation to establish net worth at birth. It also entitles us to one equitable share in the consolidated revenue fund, if we can figure it out, which is simple, take the documents to the bank and demand full disclosure, by the act of a king (lien). Scott always said if was hard you are doing irt wrong. It is not that hard if one uses the analogy of selling a car with a bill of sale created yourself. In exchange for compensation.

I have a certified copy of said document in my files for the property that belong to the trust, which I can liquidate.

And what is the reason Derek Moran :)

correction, I have nothing to do with it is none of my business, but as a director of the board of the corp I have the authority to investigate fully and do due diligence on all accounts created. Any one who works at the Bank of Canada will do. Notice to agent is notice to principle, We are the principle of the Corp that administers to the affairs of the property held in TRUST, as such it is ones duty to go to the Bank and settle this matter once and for all.

Derek Moran, WHAT IS THE REASON ? ....please ? :)

They do not want to answer that question. Simple.

ORIGINAL COPY of my LONG FORM STATEMENT OF LIVE BIRTH RECORD = is MY TITLE > being STORED by the REGISTRAR GENERAL up in Thunder Bay

OK Derek, so they don't want to talk about it with you, and it gives you good reasons to belive......what ?....say it please Derek

From what ive heard Pete- they will NEVER show you the ORIGINAL LBR, because the BACK of it will be all STAMPED-UP with the number of times they've 'SECURITIZED' it...

Oh, and plus, Thunder Bay.....what a fucking Boring place to store "something" :D

Thanks Derek Moran :)

I just dropped a information bomb here and you are asking for a reason why they won't answer the questions, look at the posts... it is a simple thing. to the best of my knowledge> Lien all titles, all letters patent, all assets, all accounts... collect on lien. That is the only way to get the original copies.

They are legally obligated to.

So you will do it Bobis Youruncle ???

You have to ACT as king.

Yep

Soon very soon

And post the results ?

But of course. :-D

OK, shall I stay awake and wait ?....or go to sleep :/

it will be a little while yet, so go to bed frog one.

OK, I will continue discharging debts, at this point, after 8 shots, I have a 100% success.....I intent to become a pro at it, in the meantime, do that stuff.......I will share, and you will share....OK ?? :)

Simpler than that, Bobis. "CALL" for the PROPERTY, in a DEMAND LETTER, to your BARE TRUSTEE (Registrar General)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS1NGlJHnz4

We gotta do it for Chris Boobies, this guy is lost in the bushes.....he needs our help :D

Ho, you know what ??, maybe when I discharge these debts, I take back bit by bit this mysterious stuff I supposely deposited when I was a baby ?? :/

could it be ??? :/

INDEMNIFY: Black's Law 1st

To save harmless; to SECURE against loss or damage; to give SECURITY for the reimbursement of a PERSON in case of an anticipated loss falling upon him. Also to make good; to compensate; to make reimbursement to one of a loss already incurred by him.

"...SECURITY...of a PERSON..."

http://blacks.worldfreemansociety.org/1/I/i-0614.jpg

Thats the plan, I have been concentrating on this stuff in particular. The praecipe was the first thing I investigated upon arrival, it has taken me this long to get thru the bullshit of myself and figure it out. So yes I need to know the process. However my person will be dead to them, held in trust... :-D Yes Pete I will share the knowledge freely as Scott did. Yes. Pete Daoust it could be exactly what you are doing.

Maybe this is the "something" Dean Clifford was talking about ??

*golf clap* Derek Moran

Public servant refusing to deliver PROPERTY

337. Every one who, being or having been employed in the service of Her Majesty in right of Canada or a province, or in the service of a municipality, and entrusted by virtue of that employment with the receipt, custody, management or control of anything, refuses or fails to deliver it to a person who is authorized to demand it and does demand it is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding fourteen years.

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/page-164.html#docCont

This is what gives it power; The Hammer:

Public Notice:

It is not our wish to create controversy, Having given previous Public Notice: To eliminate the need, We have decided the following is the most prudent course,

We herby declare on this day November 30.2012: The name Jason Fredrick Le Blanc, is Private property Along with ALL Titles, Patents, Letters Patent, Property and Assets including but not limited to; all accounts/contracts derived from said name on any document.

Questions regarding this NOTICE may be addressed to the DULY AUTHORIZED TRUSTEE CORPORATION, [ 1732964 ALBERTA LTD.]

By registered mail addressed:

To: Original Trust Attention: Accounting Dept. PMB 206 204-1440-52 ST, NE Calgary, Alberta T2A-4T8

Authorized By: The Board Of Trustees, PRIVATE CORPORATE SEAL 1732964 ALBERTA LTD. All RIGHTS RESERVED

“property” includes real and personal property, a debt, a thing in action, and any other right or interest;

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/english/elaws_statutes_90c34_e.htm#BK0

And be able to vive Voce the fuck out it with authority if questioned. It is a private matter. My neighbour experienced the power of my voice for the first time. Shut him right up. Muahahahahahaha :-D

I wanted to be thorough

We are countering all of the laws (spells) they have ensnared us to. We are creating our own laws in private. Utilizing our own currency, we do not answer to anyone except the sole beneficiary, our whole purpose is for the benefit of One.

"...but, INSTRUMENTS that are INTENDED to PASS an ESTATE-in-LAND, such as DEEDS...MUST be not ONLY IN WRITING, but UNDER SEAL." - from ChiefRock's page i posted

Corporate seal embossed http://www.orderstamps.ca/ProductDetail.aspx?productid=S901C%20CORPORATE%20DESK%20SEAL

Just like mine...

correction, the administrators tool.

The Registrar General has done his part. He gave the Birth Certificate to our mommy and daddy soon after we were born to INDEMNIFY us, in exchange for the SOLBR. Now he is just sitting around with nothing to do now that he has done HIS OBLIGATION. As of now, he is just a BARE/NAKED/SIMPLE TRUSTEE.

..i cant help but think Scott kept on CALLing-out "HELLOSSSSS!" for a reason ;)

Yes, my programming interfered, over here...

He said to me, he gave the answers away at the beginning. The first thread I was part of he posted this: http://robcourtofrecord.wordpress.com/2013/01/31/video-praecipe-act-of-the-king/

I think it is relevant :-D

One of the last things we talked about was for me to figure out how one would benefit. By jove I think we got it. :-D

Gail Marie

Chris Evan you have a right to be in a pissy mood. what they are trying to do to you is not right, they know it, and it was designed to create confrontation. getting out of it unscathed will be tricky, but thats why i intend to be there with you.

Make sure you remind me of the date beforehand.

The trauma of the experience is what they count on to throw you. Know this and the fear leaves and strength returns.

I agree Bobis Youruncle see it as a trauma or opportunity for learning.....each has their own set of responses....one we are in control of ourselves...the other we are reacting to others by them triggering our emotions

Know the notice of mistake , know the notice of waiver, Know you are in your power when you can recite it Viva Voce where the true power is. Counter offer: Your offer is respectfully declined, waive benefits, point of order... You should be good with those ack ack guns of law. And Know we are with you, in support, here to the best of our ability.

And a VOID stamp is handy as hell.