I'd like to start a discussion on the effect of a lien on the legal name has on things like mortgages, cars etc. I'm feeling a bit cloudy in my comprehension of a few things still....If there is a mortgage in the persons name for example, bringing the house into the trust would be opening up the private trust to the public so we don't want that. Say there is a willingness on the part of the corporation to continue to pay the mortgage....
Does the corporation send notice the bank that it will be paying that debt monthly and that will take care of it?
Is there anything needed to be known when it comes time to renew the mortgage (the corporation will be the customer of the bank this time)
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
I think you can have your bank take the payments out of any account you WISH... YOUR PERSON is responsible for it. Same with insurance. I told my ins co I wanted the payments taken out of a different account and they said they didn't care which account, as long as they could sell me some debt :D
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Gail Marie
once you lien the legal name the credit for the person is trashed, I'm not sure if banks do a credit check to renew or not, but if they did, then I guess the corp would have to buy the house and get their own mortgage for it?
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Newp... as long as the payments are made. Beverly's credit is COMPLETELY FUCKED... and the mortgage was up in sept but they called me in april to renew... cause they wanted a signature...
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Gail Marie
ok thanks glad to get confirmation on that
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Gail Marie
have you liened the legal name already Beverly Girl-Brain ?Braaksma
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Unless you default on the payments, then there's a problem... but they LOVE renewing death pledges... no worries.
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
No, not yet.
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Shaun Hamer
What about the lien itself, is it not a construct of the legal system and therefore crown property.?
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Gail Marie
so it is the same with utility type of bills....they stay in the persons name but the corp (trustee) pays them..and it would be the corporation that is the administrator for the person
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
None of these entities care which account and/or who is buying, as long as someone buys their debt...
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Pete Daoust
The best is to get the corp. to buy the house first.....I think... :)
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Pete Daoust
Make the person a REAL slave, with NOTHING, and lien it after :D
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Gail Marie
my understanding shaun (and am testing myself and hope to be corrected if I'm wrong)....is the legal name is a construct of the legal system (they have legal title)...not the lien...we are equitable title holders providing the equity to the legal name and the govt is a trust not a person...which means there is nothing they can do?
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Gail Marie
the corporation would have to have assets in order for the bank to give a mortgage to it ...or am i missing something?
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Pete Daoust
The person will RENT the house, and pay the corp., so yes, utility bills is for the person :D .....and since the person is liened, the corp. gets to ADMINISTRATE for it, and charges a FEE to the beneficiary :D
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Pete Daoust
OOOHHHHHH.......the fuck up !!!! `:D
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Yes, transfer the title of the property to the corp.
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
The property is an asset for the mortgage.
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Pete Daoust
I wish Lou would kick me in the teeth here.....If I am wrong :D
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Gail Marie
ahh ok..this is good im clueless about this and it's holding me back :/
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Shaun Hamer
Jurisdiction again, I guess, I suppose the lien is a tool that can be used in admiralty and in common law.
Im of the understanding a private prosecution is brought under common law jurisdiction, as it is not brought by the Crown.
Perhaps a double barrel approach with the P.P. in place to ensure common law jurisdiction and commanding they do their fucking job as public trustees
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Pete Daoust
Being clueless about something is a pretty good reason to hold back :/
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Gail Marie
yes lol
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Pete Daoust
But just for curiosity, why would you lien the person ?? :/
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
A lien becomes a security (asset) after 90 days, I heard. :D
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Gail Marie
the legal name ...did i say person pfft
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Pete Daoust
What's the difference between the LEGAL NAME and the PERSON ? :/
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Pete Daoust
Heelloossss !!!! :D
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Gail Marie
hold on.. :P
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Pete Daoust
Wal-Mart is a person, and its name is Wal-Mart, so therefor WAL-MART is the LEGAL NAME....
PIERRE DAOUST is a person, its name is PIERRE DAOUST, so therefor the LEGAL name of the person I happen to have in my pocket is PIERRE DAOUST
So now, what's the difference between PIERRE DAOUST and the person ???
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Pete Daoust
IT'S THE SAME THING !!!! :D
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Gail Marie
hmm I need to look at my notes, maybe I misunderstood at some point but thought I remembered seeing something about which was appropriate to use for the lien...'legal name' or 'person' maybe i misunderstood something
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Pete Daoust
Is it possible to tell this to everyone please ? :/
IT'S NOT A NAME, it's a person that has been named something....
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Gail Marie
yes on the lien you use the legal name as opposed to saying person
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Pete Daoust
Well, you can say: The person named GAIL BLACKMAN, or GAIL BLACKMAN inscription number 119XXXXXXXXXX,
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Chris Evan
Thinking out loud here......(watch out). GAIL MARIE B******* is a Person being administrated by YOU. But, GAIL MARIE B******* can be administrated by CORP 123456789 with the director of that corp being CORP 987654321 which is directed by YOU. or maybe there is one too many "liability limitations" in there....but you get the point
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Chris Evan
Basically, it would give anyone who wants to fuck with the Surety of GAIL MARIE B******* a lot of cushion between the WOMAN with the people who want the control
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August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
It would be a conflict of interest one thinks for gail Blackman lien to herself...
A trusted third party is the solution.
Plus the lien gives you equitable title. Equity rules.
So the lien transfers equitable title into the Asset ledger of the corporations books, until such time as satisfaction is achieved, legally as directed by corporate charter. It becomes corporate property until the matter is settled as DIRECTED...
Not theirs yours ... get it?
:-D
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August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
correction the trustee corporation you have nothing to do with it you leave it a lone and let the directors handle it ;-)
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August le Blanc
" Eye Of The Storm"
The Admiral.
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Brian Clarke
can anyone point me in the right direction to learn about placing a lien on a public trustee?
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Chris Evan
Why Brian Clarke?
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Pete Daoust
Brian Clarke, you take a left turn, and then 2 right turn, another left turn, go straight ahead, and BOUM, there you are......good luck !!! ;)
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Harold Austerman
Brian Clarke---http://www.civilrightsfreedom.com/node/19
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Harold Austerman
Risk Management/Hazard Bond # They have to Have them!!!
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Chris Evan
Hold on.....I just got another thought. "Thinking out loud here......(watch out). GAIL MARIE B******* is a Person being administrated by YOU. But, GAIL MARIE B******* can be administrated by CORP 123456789 with the director of that corp being CORP 987654321 which is directed by YOU. or maybe there is one too many "liability limitations" in there....but you get the point"
Can CORP 123456789 be the director of CORP 987654321 and in turn, the director of CORP 987654321 be CORP 123456789?
Or maybe just enlarge that sphere too.....
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Pete Daoust
Yeah...you could have 18 of those corps....directing each other .....gotta have to find a cheap accountant though :-D
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Pete Daoust
And EXPLAINE all that shit to him... :-D
Muhahahaha !!!!
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Michael Webb · WeLove JessicaDawn AndOthers
Subsidiary!
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August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
Umbrella corp...
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Michael Webb · WeLove JessicaDawn AndOthers
http://bit.ly/IPmWhn
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Pete Daoust
Now we have Shelf Corp. and Umbrella Corp. :D I want a LAZYBOY corp. please :D
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August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
CREATE IT.
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Brian Clarke
Thank you Harold Austerman
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