Nov 19, 2013 11:39 PM

It's an interesting question. I know a few who privately admit to PRETENDING to when needed, but none that I know of have any.

I do have a "fringe element" social calendar, mind you.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081231145055AAON3le

Thank you for answering my question, Admiral.

Admiral, can I say, or would it be correct to say, that the nobility is a group of men that basically figured out "first come, first served" among the "species"?

"Control everything, own nothing"

Pretty much, yes.

Thank you for answering my question, again, Admiral. It was very important for me to confirm this. I can carry on now! :D

It takes knowledge and original thought to engineer this 300 year old monstrosity.

People with "beliefs" don't have original thought. Their brain actually FIGHTS it.

Sorry to interrupt, hum, Admiral, is there any possibilities that some, part of Nobility, have NO IDEA they are part of Nobility and what it represents ?

No.

We are ALL taught.

There is NO SUCH THING as an "innocent" Noble. ANYWHERE.

WE ALL KNOW.

I want that VERY clear.

I'll say it again.

WE ALL KNOW

Thanks :)

After all I SEE and KNOW now, hell you guys deserve this shit! You guys are good!

No we don't.

It's no different than exploiting those physically weaker than you.

We don't deserve it. We haven't the right.

Is it something you can Acquire (Nobility) or you MUST be born in it ?

That's the worst part. It's born into... BY TREATY. You know, those things we like to ignore and/or downplay when natives are involved?

The Queen can grant Knighthood, but that's as close as you will get.

I agree that even thou "you guys are good", no one has the right to take advantage of those that have a different genetic pool, and are not as "smart" as others.

If it's an invention of nobility (many things like "god", and "religions", forms of "government", etc), why are you so angry at the "weak" ones, the ones being used?

I admit that we deserve what we ask for. We are lazy, and disconnected from reality.

Would it not be sane to think: "Spreading all this bullshit to control and abuse others is really creating a fucking disaster. Some have claimed dominion over the earth, and are totally leaving us out in the split. How about we start shooting a few nobles in the head, maybe some real shit can start happening.?"

I admit that we deserve what we ask for. We are lazy, and disconnected from reality.

Talk for yourself :P

You have to know who to shoot.

...and when you DO, the other Nobles get twitchy and start killing people.

...ask the Irish.

what side are you on :)

Ohh! So that's how it rolls. :D

I don't make the rules. Don't shoot the messenger. :P

Hahahaha!

how many nobles are there?

I just have a much greater appreciation for what you are doing, which is perhaps to many of us still beyond our comprehension. Too bad many call you "the bad guy".

Too bad.

:P

I just corrected my auto-correct!

...and I am going to collapse the banking system and start a war.

While people are distracted by that, I will be checking names off my list in a most unpleasant but uninterrupted way. I intend to have a long chat with all of them. ;)

So don't think anything I do is because I'm "nice". I'm simply honest.

too honest sometimes hahaha

Too honest ?....like too pregnant ? :/

Honest too often OUTLOUD.....maybe :D

I deny being any of these silly things.

I know "we" are not part of your intent of doing things, Admiral. But if you are collapsing the banking system, starting a war, and having a chat with a few fat cats making "offers they can't refuse"... then...

Hell, count me in! Awaiting your orders, Admiral! :D

Admirals don't give orders. Captains do.

What do Admirals do?

Command!

Lord Beaverbrook ? :/

Admirals Hold the Navy's TRUST. If you TRUST someone, and they need something, they have but to ASK.

ORDERS and COMMANDS are for immediate execution. Asking a captain to do something is TREATED as an order, but it is simply a request... Which you ALWAYS say "Yes" to, if you know what's good for you. The other Captains in the navy will turn on you. If you don't TRUST the Admiral, you don't trust THEM.

Admirals ENABLE Captains. That is their job.

Any Administrator in that thing ? :(

How do subordinates address an Admiral to say something like: "awaiting orders/command, Admiral"?

Addressing a superior is always SIR (Regardless of gender), and a subordinate is always MISTER (Yes, regardless of gender).

So, in other words, a rank is a PERMISSION you have, not a title ? :/

YES.

Captain can smoke cigarettes ?, and drink coffee ?

Being a Captain gives you autonomy, but there is safety in numbers. An Admiral manages those numbers and enables them to function collectively.

It's his boat. He makes the rules.

Fuck I could be one heck of a Captain 8-|

The ADMIRAL'S jurisdiction is the COMMON RULES shared among ALL the Captains.

Humm... I'm starting to like this Admiralty stuff. I can now see great uses for it. Like conquering the world. :D

:D

We've totally done that one. Taking over the world and shit.

Of course you did :/

I think in this sense, you have to take the steering wheel...

Wanna do it again ?? :D

Dang! I'm ALWAYS late for the fucking party.

Yes...it seems that the Nobility took over the world, but now it seems the banks have taken it from them. Is that a fair statement?

Banks is very close to Nobility, I suspect :D

Follow the money :P

Hellos? Chris, Scott just said he is collapsing the banking system, and starting a war. NOBODY's got shit on Scott! What can they "take from him"?

Pierre has gained the most from this group. It's very impressive.

Well, you surely remember from where I've started :D

Ok, thank you... :P

Banks don't care about where money comes from. They just want it. They don't care who you are.

So how did the banks take it over? I mean specifically...if the Nobility had it, it would have had to be a huge oversight to let this happen. How did this happen?

Who created the BANKS ? :/

Hellos, Pete? It was the Juice!

http://www.micetrap.net/buttons/I_Hate_Jews_button.jpg

So the Nobles hired Hitler to make some space :-D

Actually Pete, that was intended to be a joke. Many tend to blame the juice for everything. I like juice. Specially prune juice.

Please include a NOTICE on posts when it's time to laugh :-D

I apologize. I think I'm having a Pete Daoust moment!

hahahaha....Joseph Pierre Giles....

Gilles

"People with "beliefs" don't have original thought. Their brain actually FIGHTS it."

which means all we do is learn how to parrot one who has such. or is it 'original thought' somthing learnable? or are we born with it and the belief corrupts us, therfore we can recover?

No. you can't. Not without a total reset. You still have a love-affair with bullshit, and everyone you know does too.

Total reset?

"We the people of Eire, humbly acknowledging our obligations to the divine Lord, Jesus Christ..."

The opening of the preamble to the Irish Constitution...

The Irish were given the colour of freedom under a creation of the people they thought they had defeated... The bells still chime before the national news every evening, just a reminder I suppose...

You should move :(

Ah the weather's too good :p

This is a good thread, no jokes now Pierre... ;)

ALL belief is evil. ALL of it. There is NO exception to this rule.

Until that becomes your core, you have NO hope of a total reset.

I tried explaining the damaging effects of belief to friends who couldn't believe the TRICKS a TV magician (Dynamo) was performing... One particular trick was placing a £1 bet on every horse in a days racing predicting every finishing position... Now if one believes that...!

When I say "they couldn't believe" I meant they were overwhelmed by his talent... Didn't mean to confuse...

besides mathematics, what are other exceptions?

Math and science do not require "belief" They require KNOWLEDGE and UNDERSTANDING.

Evil is a lack of empathy.

You people make up such convoluted bullshit for the simplest things. You run the Nobility's Programming VERY well.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CV7vT9EIuZw/TpK8jc_mpuI/AAAAAAAAAgI/guAZ4IBG4YI/s1600/Dangerous++sharp+Vociferous+Chimpanzee+animal+teeth+for+dangerous+prey.jpg

Dino Quiring: Belief is NOT trust.

Only theists think that.

ALL BELIEF IS EVIL. ALL BELIEF IS BASED ON STOPING THE THOUGHT PROCESS.

In case you missed it: ALL BELIEF IS EVIL and serves someone else.

One of the key components to the Noble Lie is the merging of "belief" and Trust. They try to give it the same value.

They do the same with "Faith" and knowledge.

This is why you see Christians pretending they have knowledge and thinking those who have no imaginary friend are "ignorant".

They TRULY BELIEVE their "faith" is equal to ACTUAL knowledge. They REALLY DO.

Scary ! :(

You see it play out HERE all the time. It's why I ban theists on detection.

They mean you harm with their bullshit. They WILL hurt you to protect their delusion. In the past 2 days theists have publicly stated that I should be stoned to death because of the mean things I say about their imaginary friend.

...which makes me wonder why they are HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE!

Seriously! Ask your stupid fucking sky-daddy! You don't need me!

Answer me you delusional little cowards! I know there are still Theist Lurkers here! Speak up! Tell me why you are here if your Sky Daddy (That we made up for you) is so fucking all knowing and "wise"!

Speak up you pathetic delusional cowards!

You are here because deep down inside you know I'm BETTER THAN YOUR GOD AND JESUS COMBINED!

That's right! I said it! Spread it to your Christian buddies!

I AM BETTER THAN JESUS CHRIST!

I'll say this profound truth AGAIN!

I AM BETTER THAN JESUS CHRIST!

Third time's a charm!

I AM BETTER THAN JESUS CHRIST!

...and so are you.

What about the trifecta of the holy ghost?

I'm better than those too.

trifecta of the holy ghost?...sounds like a horse race to me :/

From an article I am parsing...

"Psychologist Laurie Manwell of the University of Guelph agrees that the CIA-designed “conspiracy theory” label impedes cognitive function. She points out, in an article published in American Behavioral Scientist (2010), that anti-conspiracy people are unable to think clearly about such apparent state crimes against democracy as 9/11 due to their inability to process information that conflicts with pre-existing belief. "

Thinking conflicts with belief... It also has the power to shatter it as well... If one has the courage to face themselves and rely on themselves, and walk away from the world of belief, be your own saviour...

be your own saviour..yep, always been .....

...better than Jesus Christ. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2YvRZZstaY

cont'd from same article...

"In the same issue of ABS, University of Buffalo professor Steven Hoffman adds that anti-conspiracy people are typically prey to strong “confirmation bias” - that is, they seek out information that confirms their pre-existing beliefs, while using irrational mechanisms (such as the “conspiracy theory” label) to avoid conflicting information.

The extreme irrationality of those who attack “conspiracy theories” has been ably exposed by Communications professors Ginna Husting and Martin Orr of Boise State University. In a 2007 peer-reviewed article entitled “Dangerous Machinery: “Conspiracy Theorist” as a Transpersonal Strategy of Exclusion,” they wrote:

“If I call you a conspiracy theorist, it matters little whether you have actually claimed that a conspiracy exists or whether you have simply raised an issue that I would rather avoid” By labeling you, I strategically exclude you from the sphere where public speech, debate, and conflict occur.”

No god... must be a conspiracy... or wait I think I have that backwards... :-D

I am not even sure if I can believe I am real.

Do you have a knife at home ? ....if you do, get back to me, I have a test that can help you find an answer on this one :D

You see a finger, and opppssss, now you don't see a finger :D

Research the SCIENTIFIC METHOD. ACTUALLY research it. These things have already occurred to people. Sadly you don't have any original insight. You can't. You have been programmed.

The Scientific Method is your start.

Knife = Scientific method :P

Sure it is... Its verifiable Its duplicatable "If you cut, will it bleed profusely? " Could be the hypothesis... Conclusion: our studies showed: Yes, but the bleeding profusely part is dependent upon a number of factors...

See what you do Boobies...? :D , complicating the shit out of your brain :P

It is mine to do with as I wish... :-D

Indeed....but it hurts, just saying :P

It is mine to do with as I wish...this kind of answers look a lot like daddy sky lovers's answers :D

You should see it from this side :-P

no sky daddy here... As one wishes is a state of mind :-D Think about that.... french frog pea soup... :-D

I trust "ME" at 100% :P

ESP ? :/

Extra Smelly Perspiration. I assume it's a French thing. :D

LOL :D

I am not from France :P

Seriously, what is that ESP ?

Dino Quiring is clearly mocking you with a French stereotype.

I would rather think that Dino is bigoted against French people and uses stereotypes to express himself, than accept that he's completely ignored my ban on FUCKING ACRONYMS!

Some people think that there are people out there who have extra senses... like the ability to bend spoons and read minds.... science has done some studies, is all I know, the rest would be out of the ass library

I don't get it, what this Extrasensory perception shit ?

JREF has a million dollars for you if you can prove under observable conditions that these things even EXIST.

But what is that have to do with reality Dino Quiring ?

Nothing. They all love their bullshit.

...you can make them dance too.

:D

Extra stuff is perceived like your nose sensess smell or scent... extra sense or perception would be smelling someones thoughts in your mind... Kreskin was Canada guy who had a show... he claimed extra sensory perception...Just parlour tricks really... Not relevant to anything. except duping people and entertainment for the monkeys..

Trust has expectation of the future....yes, that's the main reason why I trust me at 100% ......because there is NO ONE ELSE that seems to love me like I do love me......well, so far :/

Castration maybe ? :/

I can help if you need.....

Kill yourself ??

Those statements presume:

1: The "ladies" in question are someone's property they somehow "entrust" you with. 2: That you need to be "alone" with them to communicate in any meaningful (and deceptive, or else why wouldn't you be trusted) way with said "ladies". 3: Women are property.

Perhaps you think of them as pets you stick you cock in?

so the "castration" and/or "kill yourself" suggestions was right on the button ? :D

this discussion will, very soon, be a complete waist of time, I am going to BMT (brush my teeth) :P

I'm sorry, I am not familiar with your chimp mating rituals. Women decide when they talk to me, and nobody's "trust" is breached... it's confusing...

OH WAIT! I get it now. I'm slow sometimes! Silly me! You're talking about RAPE!

I can see why nobody trusts you around "ladies" then! I get it now!

Well the "ladies" are warned. :D

Dude, you made it to Misogynist rapist!

What else is there?

...Sometimes I hit these things out of the park.

Doing anything else is just gratuitous.

If I would be you Dino Quiring, I would have a serious problem, about TRUSTING my self.....

On a boat, you would be swimming as we speak :-D

Exactly :-D

Just blocked that rapist, I hate rapist :-(

I have a lots of blocked members in here :-\

Has there been comments deleted out of this thread?

Awesome thread even though half of the comments are not showing up who is Dino?

He was a profile, here, who seems to have disappeared...

...from Facebook!

Hmmmm....

Nope... he's still there... just deleted his posts.

Ya he's from the coast.

Maybe he listened to me... :-D

It may have been a self swabbing of shit...

i missed all the good shit again!

BTW: "Mackximus Minimus", the correct quote is ALL BELIEFS ARE EVIL.

Say it again. It's only 4 words.

ALL BELIEF IS EVIL

again...

ALL BELIEF IS EVIL

VERTICALLY!

ALL BELIEF IS EVIL

Keep it simple.

P.S. - The crew and I really enjoyed you and Chris Evan dropping by, chatting and then... I THINK you guys killed someone. Not sure why THAT was something you guys got from my conversation, but hey, it's your trip, and there's too many people in the world... Bonus points for using a train. Trains and homicide are always a hit.

Your body count is higher than mine this week. Good for you :D

:(

:'(

Don't be sad Pete! They didn't kill anyone you knew!

Oh....that's fucking deep :-o ^^^^

...and they TOTALLY used a TRAIN! Death by choo-choo! Seriously! How awesome is that!

And I guess TRAIN dosen't mean what I think it means :P

An orderly succession of related events or thoughts; a sequence

No this is the Choo Choo kind. They used a GO Train (Commuter Train) to splat someone into rail pizza, and hung around to watch chimps clean up the mess. Those two are really quite disturbing, when you think of it. :/

THEN they had to be awake for Dean Clifford's Desalination Conference at 8:00!

They stayed up all night killing people and now they have to stay awake for Dean! Do you guys have ANY IDEA how HARD IT IS to STAY AWAKE DURING A DEAN CLIFFORD SEMINAR?

Seriously. You guys did NOT plan this well.

HAHA!!!....I do have my ticket to paradise too :D

I am NOT an idiot :P

Yes, but I notice you didn't drop by the Tycho-Brahe and kill people after.

You just have a lame-ass ticket. you can just BUY that.

You can't BUY what Mackximus Minimus and Chris Evan have. :D They have a VISIT WITH ME, and a BODY COUNT!

...and they hadn't even checked into a hotel yet!

:(

I haven't even move from my kitchen table yet .!!!

Is Chris Evan and Mackximus Minimus really with you ? :D

They dropped by last night.

So, are they really as kooks as they are online ? :D

Then they took a GO train to Hamilton...which happened to be a train someone decided to kill themselves with. The were stuck there for hours.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!......fuck..

Whoa... :/

Wait, so the train they were on hit someone?! That's nuts! And big LOL to the phrase "Death by choo choo".

And they stuck around for the clean-up? :/

They had no choice. They have to wait on the train until the Bombardier "Splat Crew" finishes.

They probably had to. They don't just keep rolling after they kill someone.

It USED to be by the Government of Ontario. They used to have that shit cleaned up in 10 minutes.

Would have been funny though if they just kept on a rollin. "Sorry for the bump folks, a stray homeless man wandered on to the tracks."

No bumps involved, trust me... :D

LOL, have you guys ever googled "Train hits man in toronto"?! There is like a dozen from the last 6 months! The best one I found was "6 dead after Ottawa bus strikes Via rail train | Ontario ... - Toronto Sun". Public transportation sounds pretty dangerous out your way.

Well let's just google "train hits man in San Francisco" “lots too...

Ha! I always liked that their train system is called BART!

Average of 30 suicidal attempts in the Montreal underground subway per year......more than 2 per month.....

Lots of subway driver go nuts with this shit.....some just can't take it :/

BART, lol.

Or there's this! http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/83353182/

I agree that this must be disturbing for some dude.......a big splash in the windshield :/

Apparently, as per an article I am reading as we speak, dudes that do this, are crazy : o

Must be a "bath salts" thing :D

A team of psychologist and psychiatrist have studied this for 2 years, and came to the conclusion that, if you throw yourself in front of a train, you must be crazy :/

Of course that TEAM has been paid by.......ho, not that fucking surety again ??? :(

My laptop is over heating....because of this litecoins thing

Yup..Mackximus and I killed a guy and used a train. Everything Scott said was true!

I have n't heard that it was a lawyer yet though

did you learn anything new Chris, or just reinforce what you already knew?

So far, I learned that Dean is a great guy...fun to be around! I learned that Norah is fucking cool! I learned that Lou Manotti is fucking hilarious. I met Mackximus and Derek. I learned how to kill a guy with a train and not get caught. I met Scott and Tara and Ceit. So far, I am very satisfied.

Notice he just "Met" Tara, Ceit, and I.

Everyone ELSE is "cool' and "fun", but you just shared geography with us. :P

Lou Manotti was "Hilarious"? REALLY?

But if you come back, for the low, low price of $150 per head, we promise to be both cool AND hilarious!

:D

Fuck that. $300.00 per head. If you think Lou Manotti is funny, you need to have your wallet emptied, FAST! I'm just the guy to do it!

hitting a moving target with a train,... impressive.

Cool and hilarious for $150? Fuck! I am getting ripped off here, I am only getting one of those. Dean, I demand an explanation and full disclosure!!!

But still.....I killed a guy!

After a successful international killing (here at TT4L we GO big on proxies to do that), I endured the first day of Dean's seminar. There is SO MANY free-dumbs, I wish I was the one crushed by the train. I'm "praying" for them. :D

It was an honor to meet Admiral Scott Duncan, and his crew. Joking aside, I was treated in his jurisdiction with much respect. Thank you! MUCH better that in "Canada's" jurisdiction.

When arriving at "Canada", and immigration found out I was going to a Dean Clifford seminar, they "detained" me, and my person, for 2 and a half hours, got profiled, and my person was ordered to leave "Canada" by Monday. I am NOT joking. It's a TRUE story.

:D

Fuck, if I knew that a guided visit of the Adminiral's fleet was included in this, I would have go, to Dean's Seminar :( ....no one is telling me fuck all here .......fuck off :P

Hey Chris Evan and Mackximus Minimus, is there a segment in this seminar, where they talk about how to administrate debts ?? :/

HELLOOSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not yet, but I asked Dean for a signed bill....

Tell them Chris Evan, don't be shy, tell them that if EVERYONE figures out HOW to administrate debts, we will win... :P

EVERYONE sends their debts to AQUILAE :D :D !!!!!!.....wwwwwoooooooo!!!!!

Seminar's over.. :/

Everyone should go to sleep at 11:59pm, and wake up at 8:00am .....that should be a new rule in here :(

Bart Ehrman, Author, Once a fundamentalist evangelical Christian, and later a Youth Pastor, took eye-opening historical-critical bible study courses at Princeton Theological Seminary and now describes himself as an Agnostic. He wrote a book titled “Who wrote the Bible and Why it Matters” exposing fraud and forgery in the New Testament,. http://www.christianpost.com/news/agnostic-scholar-bart-ehrman-on-who-wrote-the-bible-and-why-it-matters-97169/

17 year Advisor to the Pope Exposes Bible Fraud and Forgery http://beyondallreligion.net/2011/08/28/advisor-to-the-pope-exposes-bible-fraud-and-forgery/

I'll go so far as to say that this man is VERY CLOSE to reality. He only covers WHAT was conjured into existence (Not "forged". Forged implies there is a "legitimate" original bible, and there just ISN'T) but does not cover WHY.

I deleted my last comment/question as a bit of thought goes along way... :p

It ACTUALLY started about 5000 years ago. The "Abrahamic" Monotheist religions are all just plagiarizations of each other (they keep re-writing them) with ONE PRIMARY GOAL. The Subjugation of WOMEN.

Before the Abrahamic religions, the concept of "women as property" didn't exist. Women were GODS in the older mythologies.

...so ask yourself; WHY go through all this trouble to subjugate women? What for?

All your answers will become clear after that.

Can I get a hint ???? please....

If I would delete comments after thinking about it......I would spend my days deleting comments :-D

Muhahhahaha !!!!

NO Pete! DON'T!

...the group might be too easy to read. Fuck that!

Ni worries Admiral, you can COUNT on me ;-)

Your answer leads me to the question what do women have that men don't? The ability to reproduce... So is the subjugation of women a form of population control? That's my first thought anyway....

Amazon women from the moon is of Satan... :-D

Cause they are smarter, stronger, faster and gosh darn it they like me... :-D

I have always treated most women as my sisters with respect, caring, protection and dignity. Anyone harms my Sisters are in for trouble. I have 2 younger. Much care is taken with them.

Eamonn O Brien; Reproduction is just a small part. Women simply have BETTER brains with WAY more range.

Men have linear thought, allowing engineering and hunting skills, but not much else.

Programming women to fight/compete with each other, and NEVER teach each other would be a GREAT way to "level the playing field"!

...eliminating any possible threats to their assumed authority/power...

There are many benefits to honouring women. TLC= Tender Loving Care is where it all comes from. I truly value that.

That is why I, for the most part, avoid them... the programmed part.

They are all beautifully different A symbiosis occurs when a beneficial arrangement by mutual attraction to a whole... A meeting of the minds, that embraces the differences and recognizes the strengths and actually sees who they are. It has taken me a long time to articulate that.

One first must be able to really see oneself... That is the challenge. For me...

Get women COOPERATING. THAT shit will scare you.

There is a reason Muammar al-Gaddafi had a herd of "specially trained" women guarding him all those years. ;)

Bobis, that's easy for you to say... your a guy.

Give me 6 women who can learn, and trust ME implicitly, and I will give YOU a continent of rubble and death. You couldn't stop it.

Well a guys gotta start somewhere... And that is not easy to say, as a guy in this culture of locker room humour and disrespect that is taught and programmed right out of the shoot IE: Pink and Blue... So contrary to that statement, in my little world.. I have been in the minority with my view point.

I state that with the certainty that I state that the sun will be to the east tomorrow morning. It's just the way it is.

I do not doubt it at all. I have come to appreciate the value of cooperating with women. I have slaved with many.

No, Bobis Youruncle, you have a pre-programmed baseless contrary position. Nothing else. I know this to be true, because that is all you are programmed to feel.

Men and women do not and can not cooperate for any considerable length of time. (Mating excepted)

I can accept that. i usually last about 2 years in their company... then they move on... I am ok with that.

Mine stay for decades. :P

Ha....shut up Boobies :-P

Yes, but I am just learning... I have been under developed. For now my priorities lie else where. I do my best.

Na.. Pete Daoust This is important as well. I truly want to comprehend lots of things.

Here put this on :-D https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1464704_10152148207699155_1330966024_n.jpg

I know enough to know that I don't know about a lot. I know more then some less than a lot of people. It makes my predisposition to explore very itchy... It led me here. To learn that " I don't know" is a great place to start. So fuck off with your shut up. :-D

P.S. I like Boobies :-D ...see value ;-)

Often, I am observing my wife and think, how in the world can she do all that ?? :/

At the same fucking time ?? :/

Scott Duncan, I apologize for my lack of education in my prior post. I do not appreciate your pompous attitude and abrasiveness but I submit to your insight and knowledge. I also must appologize to Pete Daoust for retaliating.

You taught me something today in this thread. Thank you.

Why is it when I eloquently express my frustration with your collective chronic stupidity, your ilk think it's a "pompous attitude", and not YOU'RE FUCKING LUCKY YOU GOT THAT, ASSWIPE!

Why is that?

When apologising it is always best to stop after you have actually apologised. Anything after that makes you look like a pompous ass - funny isn't it?

Hysterical.

Ladies and gentlemen, after 30 years of dealing with your ilk, I feel I can speak with some authority on this issue.

NICE DOES NOT WORK WITH YOUR KIND. It just doesn't.

Funnier still to admit that someone for whom you purport to have so little regard has taken the time to demonstrate something that has enriched your life. This apology thing...maybe you need to revisit that too.

Loved the comments from men who went out of their way to speak of how they treat women with respect and kindness. Now let's hear those men talk about how they treat men with respect and kindness. Gay right? And you wonder why there's no equality.

You all LOVE your bullshit FAR too much for "Nice" to have any measurable effect.

Tough shit people. This is what you get. You're lucky you get that. When this STOPS serving MY agenda, you won't even have my "pompous attitude"... just your "knowledge".

.....Bwahahahahahaha! "Knowledge" :D

Oh fuck that's funny. I slay me.

It's like the Sarah Silverman comment, "I like Chinks...who doesn't?"

Totally love Chinks.

Who doesn't?

http://youtu.be/04QoA44c23A

LOL...we're doing it again, aren't we?

Shush...listening to tap-dancing chinese.

People are who they are and I expect nothing less.

Did you mean to say, "It is what is is?"

Yes, and Being MORE THAN YOU WILL EVER BE BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME LEFT IN YOUR LIFE TO CATCH UP... is who I am. :D

Everyone has their strengths, you obviously have had access to information earlier than I. Kudos.

You mentioned your "agenda", what would that be?

Trap?

Trap.

And what do you hope to trap?

What do you gain from trapping?

Wow, that's a little bit like, "I read your e-mail."

NOTHING YOU'D UNDERSTAND!

That's my agenda! You barely grasp what you read here and I LITERALLY HURT MYSELF dumbing it down to your level. WHY do you think you could possibly GRASP what my motives are, muchless my agenda?

You have to love a common frame of reference.

That is rather evasive.

And it seems to ignore everything anyone else says. Interesting.

No more than not bothering to explain trigonometry to a two-year old is "evasive".

Is this thing on?

LOL!

"It"...

:D

Are you trying to teach, convert or what?

Perhaps just toy with people?

Nope. I must answer the right questions, and I must not lie. That's it. I'm keeping a promise.

I don't "toy" with people. That's something weak minds do. The fact that you propose it, speaks volumes as to your character.

Have fun with your catch.

Pfft... I'll yank the line a few times then steer it into the props. :D

Like the word game?

Which word game?

You say THE, indicating only one. I can think of three off the top of my head...Crosswords...Scrabble...Hangman?

lol

You lack the precision necessary for ANY meaningful communication.

Tim Roth acted in it and had taken place on a court. It was posted recently but I cant seem to find it now.

Yes, I am slow.

Yet you think you could possibly grasp my agenda? :P

It was a question.

Is it difficult to express?

Is it a secret?

*sigh* seems like Dino should keep reading through the threads :/

Something about Banksters, and Layers and Women as Weapons... but I'll let you try to put it together yourself...

The endless banter takes much too much time to muddle through. I haven't been on TTFL for long but, as you say, the BullShit seems to go on forever with little tidbits of intellect disguised in toung.

As WEAPONS. Interesting.

Yes... but... We ALL had to read it all too, you know.

A few people have also put together the gold notes... all here too.

OK, I'll dumb it down.

First the facts:

The world is collapsing because you are all too stupid to grasp the issues.

You are stupid.

I am smart.

Stupid people harm smart people.

I have grown to hate stupid people because of this.

I am from the Nobility. They claimed to OWN all the stupid people, and they spent 300 years programming their pet stupid people, and they said the stupid people I hate could be my pets too.

I said that I dislike stupid people and it's not my right to control people, stupid or otherwise. They "cast me out".

Now I live among stupid people, and you are slaves.

You LOVE slavery. You don't want anything more than to have more than the slave beside you. You don't know any better.

It would be cruel for you to know anything else.

...so I'm letting you know there's something else.

...and you can't have it because you don't know how not to be a slave.

I am teaching you to harm you because I hate you. Clear enough?

I do so...without breaking my oaths.

I agree entirely with the "being NICE" theory. I was "nice" for the past 30 years and what did I end up with? Being surrounded with stupid people who just needed me to keep being nice. Nobody takes you seriously when you're "NICE", so fuck that.

...when I'm done, you'll wish the imaginary "devil" we invented for your "god" was real, so he could "bless" you with a "biblical" hell, rather than what your life will be if I succeed. ;)

...and I'm a VERY GOOD Noble.

Do all nobles hate their slaves?

Being "nice" about things does not compel anyone to THINK, HELP, get off their lazy ass and DO... it does NOTHING.

I'll dumb your fate down for you.

You will SEE EVERYTHING.

You will see what you missed and can't exploit because you are too old and stupid. You will see how you were steered every step of your so-called "life", and above all, I promise to make you see with CRYSTAL CLARITY THAT YOU DID IT TO YOURSELF.

I am not religious.

I don't know... do all black people commit crimes? Do all women put out on the first date?

I know 5 Nobles personally. They range from love to hate like any other demograph.

I have been asking questions, evidently to the wrong people, since I was 5 years old in sunday school. They actually kicked me out.

...and just because you aren't "religious" doesn't mean you aren't programmed.

Religion is CHILDHOOD programming.

Dino, this hatred also stems from the fact you have stated you basically aren't interested in doing the WORK of reading through all the threads of GOLD and BS to understand what is going on here. You want answers without the work.

Religion is like Doctor Who. Its intended audience is children, but is filled with child-brains of all ages.

I have mostly presumed the monachy was behind this charade but I remember you mentioning something about the nobles screwing them too. Is the Monarchy not part of the scam?

No. They were once. Now they are just a showpiece. Pretty prisoners.

Since 1982, it's FOLLOW THE MONEY. It's ALL ACCOUNTING and SURETY.

Now the Nobles and the Banks are at war. Nobody even notices.

I have been having a lot of trouble comprehending SURETY. Is it the slaves presumed earnings in their lifetime has been leveraged, traded and monetized?

In commerce, it seems simple.

Yes.

I can say "Next year my slaves can produce 100 bushels of cotton".

I know that's not much, but they are black, and I don't beat them, so they aren't really productive...

...still, I can SECURITIZE that and SELL that prediction on the market. I will need Sambo, Toby and Abooikuh to facilitate it, so I put their names down on the security instrument.

...if those slaves don't produce what I promised, they will have to work off the balance on another plantation!

I hope that was clear/tasteless enough.

Analogy well taken.

What happened in 1982 that altered history for the Nobility?

Dissolution. The UK CANADA ACT, inter alia.

Right under your noses too!

They sold it as "rights".

"About 3,910,000 results" google WOW!

Lets look at some "word games" since you love that shit so much...

FIRST go HERE and read up

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Bill_of_Rights

NOTE THE PREAMBLE: "The Canadian Bill of Rights remains in effect, but its widely acknowledged ineffectiveness[3] was the main reason that the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms was adopted in 1982."

What is not immediately obvious (until I point it out) is that they don't say WHO it was "ineffective" FOR! It was INEFFECTIVE FOR THE GOVERNMENT!

THIS was the last of the RESPONSIBLE GOVERNMENT PROTECTIONS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsible_government

THIS IS ALL THE SHIT THAT IT IS YOUR DUTY TO KNOW if you want to do anything about the current state.

IT IS YOUR FAULT THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW THIS.

IT IS YOUR FAULT THAT YOU GET DECIEVED

I wont argue that.

Laziness = ignorance... nobody wanted to do the WORK of READING IT!

I'm only in this for the tail.

Let me drive that point home again...

NOTE THE PREAMBLE: "The Canadian Bill of Rights remains in effect, but its widely acknowledged ineffectiveness[3] was the main reason that the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms was adopted in 1982."

What is not immediately obvious (until I point it out) is that they don't say WHO it was "ineffective" FOR!

A LIE OF OMISSION that would make Menard proud!

The trade deals Harper is so secretive about, with China and other countries, mostly dictatorships... Does this tie in?

ALL of this shit is worthless if you DON'T KNOW WHO YOU ARE.

So it's "harper" is it? :D

OMG, you dumb fuck. You don't even know how parliament works, do you?

OK, Canadian Gov?

http://youtu.be/yi1yhp-_x7A

So... STILL think "Harper" is doing all this?

The "role" of the GG is so ambiguous!

"how not to be a slave" a book by ...

why do you care about some oath. wouldn't that be someones clubhouse rule?

It's a puppet role.

Most have no clue when they get the office, what ACTUAL power they have. They never learn either.

IT'S NOT A CLUBHOUSE RULE IF YOU MADE THE OATH!

What the fuck is it with you free-dumbers? Why is keeping your word such a fluid thing for your ilk?

Seriously. EXPLAIN that.

I WANT TO KNOW. Why do you sacks-of-shit think it's ok to just break promises because you don't feel like keeping it anymore?

I REALLY don't grasp why YOU can't grasp why I am better than you in every measurable way.

Scott Duncan, are you familiar with "mind maps"? I am trying to picture how the hierarchies would appear in relation to each other.

"The Third Estate carrying the Clergy and the Nobility on its back" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Troisordres.jpg

If redefined with today's players, obviously the slaves do the carrying and fighting at the top are the banksters vs the nobles, somewhere between are the monarchy, the clergy, gg/political/country... etc.

Too simplistic.

That's like saying "the internet is the shit you see with a web browser". It's not true.

Not because you cant demonstrate "surfing the web" but because it ignores what it ACTUALLY IS.

Your model is too simplistic to demonstrate.

Are there more players than the ones I listed?

It's more like a bunch of Rube Goldberg machines that were set up 300 years ago, and anyone can use them if they know how they work.

AH!

Those in on the "secret" are fighting each other for control of them.

and only more complicated since, yes?

You have no idea.

i'll try refrazing the question but you will say its none of my business, or i am not qualified to ask... Who and/or what do you have an oath to? and if you hate them so much, what reason is there to keep such an oath?

Because it was to my grandfather.

I promised to tell you. I have done so for 30 years. I'm almost done.

Besides yourself, do you know of other noble decedents willing to answer questions?

oh, it was to/with family, not the/a government/agency. I understand THAT, it's the same as a member of a bike club who swears an oath to their family to uphold their charter (till death do there part). The charter is a trust that could be but not nessesarily held by a corporation.

one could just interrupt and add more steps to a rube goldberg machine. the original was merely a drawing of an idea in imagination land. the free dumb movement has its roots in imagination land.

it seems to me that having NO CONSENT tatooed across ones forehead in glow in the dark is not enough and use of infernal machinery the only defense. is not the pen mightier then the sword, or is that just another false belief?

i'm just trying to ask questions i'm to stupid to figure out what they should be.

"I REALLY don't grasp why YOU can't grasp why I am better than you in every measurable way."

you wipe your ass the same as the rest of us, you just happen to know something we dont. that doesnt make you better, just confirms that were blind. BUT you are showing us HOW we are blind, and by that we see more better, but still there is vaseline over the lens.

what is the question a person of nobility can not answer?

"Stupid people harm smart people." smart people commit fraud against the stupid people for selfish gain. enough stupid people retaliating can create a war.

Ourselves and our surety are up for grabs until we claim them for ourselves. By Killing our worth and shifting the asset of ourselves to someone that is trustworthy and will keep their word. Harming ourselves for the benefit of ourselves. The vessel is guided by a Chart, a course... A charter and a covenant for the benefit of the author. if one does not do that then based on what we know, strangers will run the course for us. However we do not know how to navigate these waters and have to be shown... In a remedial fashion due to our programming, which is our fault for being born into. Our ignorance is just that ours, self inflicted. To what end does one pursue this path... to harm ourselves in the eyes of the governments and their corporate sponsors, who would like to keep us, safe or in a SAFE... Make your own safe... or fling poo. (protest).

Fuck :( too many blocked members :(

I see gold here. I too must admit that EARLY ON I felt as if there was a lot of attitude flowing from Scott. I have since seen, through READING, that it isn't so much arrogance. I can see his hate for stupid and beliefs. As there are people in my life that fit those categories and even with my much more limited knowledge, I am beginning to the fights with them and their laziness and inability to accept that their "authority" might be misleading, at best, for their benefit. All of this being done using WORDS and a little "no, that doesn't apply here". The hard part for me is how to get acceptance of what I do know to be true. As I build on this knowledge, I hope to correct this and get more valuable to me and my family than that fiat paper.

Scott Duncan It takes knowledge and original thought to engineer this 300 year old monstrosity.

People with "beliefs" don't have original thought. Their brain actually FIGHTS it.

Scott Duncan There is NO SUCH THING as an "innocent" Noble. ANYWHERE.

Scott Duncan WE ALL KNOW.

I want that VERY clear.

I'll say it again.

WE ALL KNOW

Scott Duncan No we don't.

It's no different than exploiting those physically weaker than you.

Scott Duncan We don't deserve it. We haven't the right.

Scott Duncan That's the worst part. It's born into... BY TREATY. You know, those things we like to ignore and/or downplay when natives are involved?

Scott Duncan The Queen can grant Knighthood, but that's as close as you will get.

Scott Duncan You have to know who to shoot.

...and when you DO, the other Nobles get twitchy and start killing people.

Scott Duncan ...ask the Irish.

Scott Duncan Admirals don't give orders. Captains do.

Chris Evan What do Admirals do?

Scott Duncan Admirals Hold the Navy's TRUST. If you TRUST someone, and they need something, they have but to ASK.

ORDERS and COMMANDS are for immediate execution. Asking a captain to do something is TREATED as an order, but it is simply a request... Which you ALWAYS say "Yes" to, if you know what's good for you. The other Captains in the navy will turn on you. If you don't TRUST the Admiral, you don't trust THEM.

Scott Duncan Admirals ENABLE Captains. That is their job.

Scott Duncan Addressing a superior is always SIR (Regardless of gender), and a subordinate is always MISTER (Yes, regardless of gender).

Pierre Eleveneightfivetwo So, in other words, a rank is a PERMISSION you have, not a title ?

Scott Duncan YES.

Scott Duncan Being a Captain gives you autonomy, but there is safety in numbers. An Admiral manages those numbers and enables them to function collectively.

Scott Duncan It's his boat. He makes the rules.

Scott Duncan The ADMIRAL'S jurisdiction is the COMMON RULES shared among ALL the Captains.

That make a lot more sense now!

Scott Duncan Math and science do not require "belief" They require KNOWLEDGE and UNDERSTANDING.

Evil is a lack of empathy.

Scott Duncan You people make up such convoluted bullshit for the simplest things. You run the Nobility's Programming VERY well.

Scott Duncan Dino Quiring: Belief is NOT trust.

Only theists think that.

ALL BELIEF IS EVIL. ALL BELIEF IS BASED ON STOPING THE THOUGHT PROCESS.

In case you missed it: ALL BELIEF IS EVIL and serves someone else.

Scott Duncan One of the key components to the Noble Lie is the merging of "belief" and Trust. They try to give it the same value.

They do the same with "Faith" and knowledge.

Scott Duncan This is why you see Christians pretending they have knowledge and thinking those who have no imaginary friend are "ignorant".

They TRULY BELIEVE their "faith" is equal to ACTUAL knowledge. They REALLY DO.

Scott Duncan Research the SCIENTIFIC METHOD. ACTUALLY research it. These things have already occurred to people. Sadly you don't have any original insight. You can't. You have been programmed.

The Scientific Method is your start.

Scott Duncan It ACTUALLY started about 5000 years ago. The "Abrahamic" Monotheist religions are all just plagiarizations of each other (they keep re-writing them) with ONE PRIMARY GOAL. The Subjugation of WOMEN.

Before the Abrahamic religions, the concept of "women as property" didn't exist. Women were GODS in the older mythologies.

...so ask yourself; WHY go through all this trouble to subjugate women? What for?

All your answers will become clear after that.

Scott Duncan Eamonn O Brien; Reproduction is just a small part. Women simply have BETTER brains with WAY more range.

Men have linear thought, allowing engineering and hunting skills, but not much else.

Programming women to fight/compete with each other, and NEVER teach each other would be a GREAT way to "level the playing field"!

Scott Duncan Get women COOPERATING. THAT shit will scare you.

There is a reason Muammar al-Gaddafi had a herd of "specially trained" women guarding him all those years.

Scott Duncan Give me 6 women who can learn, and trust ME implicitly, and I will give YOU a continent of rubble and death. You couldn't stop it.

Scott Duncan No, Bobis Youruncle, you have a pre-programmed baseless contrary position. Nothing else. I know this to be true, because that is all you are programmed to feel.

Scott Duncan Men and women do not and can not cooperate for any considerable length of time. (Mating excepted)

Scott Duncan I state that with the certainty that I state that the sun will be to the east tomorrow morning. It's just the way it is.

Scott Duncan Nope. I must answer the right questions, and I must not lie. That's it. I'm keeping a promise.

Scott Duncan OK, I'll dumb it down.

First the facts:

The world is collapsing because you are all too stupid to grasp the issues.

You are stupid.

I am smart.

Stupid people harm smart people.

I have grown to hate stupid people because of this.

I am from the Nobility. They claimed to OWN all the stupid people, and they spent 300 years programming their pet stupid people, and they said the stupid people I hate could be my pets too.

I said that I dislike stupid people and it's not my right to control people, stupid or otherwise. They "cast me out".

Now I live among stupid people, and you are slaves.

You LOVE slavery. You don't want anything more than to have more than the slave beside you. You don't know any better.

It would be cruel for you to know anything else.

...so I'm letting you know there's something else.

...and you can't have it because you don't know how not to be a slave.

I am teaching you to harm you because I hate you. Clear enough?

Scott Duncan I do so...without breaking my oaths.

Scott Duncan ...when I'm done, you'll wish the imaginary "devil" we invented for your "god" was real, so he could "bless" you with a "biblical" hell, rather than what your life will be if I succeed.

...and I'm a VERY GOOD Noble.

Scott Duncan I'll dumb your fate down for you.

You will SEE EVERYTHING.

You will see what you missed and can't exploit because you are too old and stupid. You will see how you were steered every step of your so-called "life", and above all, I promise to make you see with CRYSTAL CLARITY THAT YOU DID IT TO YOURSELF.

Scott Duncan I know 5 Nobles personally. They range from love to hate like any other demograph.

Scott Duncan ...and just because you aren't "religious" doesn't mean you aren't programmed.

Scott Duncan Religion is CHILDHOOD programming.

Scott Duncan Religion is like Doctor Who. Its intended audience is children, but is filled with child-brains of all ages.

Dino Quiring I have mostly presumed the monachy was behind this charade but I remember you mentioning something about the nobles screwing them too. Is the Monarchy not part of the scam?

Scott Duncan No. They were once. Now they are just a showpiece. Pretty prisoners.

Scott Duncan Since 1982, it's FOLLOW THE MONEY. It's ALL ACCOUNTING and SURETY.

Scott Duncan Now the Nobles and the Banks are at war. Nobody even notices.

Dino Quiring I have been having a lot of trouble comprehending SURETY. Is it the slaves presumed earnings in their lifetime has been leveraged, traded and monetized?

Dino Quiring In commerce, it seems simple.

Scott Duncan Yes.

I can say "Next year my slaves can produce 100 bushels of cotton".

I know that's not much, but they are black, and I don't beat them, so they aren't really productive...

...still, I can SECURITIZE that and SELL that prediction on the market. I will need Sambo, Toby and Abooikuh to facilitate it, so I put their names down on the security instrument.

...if those slaves don't produce what I promised, they will have to work off the balance on another plantation!

I hope that was clear/tasteless enough.

Dino Quiring What happened in 1982 that altered history for the Nobility?

Scott Duncan Dissolution. The UK CANADA ACT, inter alia.

Scott Duncan Right under your noses too!

They sold it as "rights".

Scott Duncan Lets look at some "word games" since you love that shit so much...

FIRST go HERE and read up

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Bill_of_Rights

NOTE THE PREAMBLE: "The Canadian Bill of Rights remains in effect, but its widely acknowledged ineffectiveness[3] was the main reason that the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms was adopted in 1982."

What is not immediately obvious (until I point it out) is that they don't say WHO it was "ineffective" FOR! It was INEFFECTIVE FOR THE GOVERNMENT!

Scott Duncan THIS was the last of the RESPONSIBLE GOVERNMENT PROTECTIONS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsible_government

Scott Duncan THIS IS ALL THE SHIT THAT IT IS YOUR DUTY TO KNOW if you want to do anything about the current state.

Scott Duncan IT IS YOUR FAULT THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW THIS.

IT IS YOUR FAULT THAT YOU GET DECIEVED

Scott Duncan Let me drive that point home again...

NOTE THE PREAMBLE: "The Canadian Bill of Rights remains in effect, but its widely acknowledged ineffectiveness[3] was the main reason that the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms was adopted in 1982."

What is not immediately obvious (until I point it out) is that they don't say WHO it was "ineffective" FOR!

A LIE OF OMISSION that would make Menard proud!

Scott Duncan ALL of this shit is worthless if you DON'T KNOW WHO YOU ARE.

I was part of these slaves that did NOT produced enough :(

Dino Quiring The "role" of the GG is so ambiguous!

Scott Duncan It's a puppet role.

Most have no clue when they get the office, what ACTUAL power they have. They never learn either.

Scott Duncan IT'S NOT A CLUBHOUSE RULE IF YOU MADE THE OATH!

What the fuck is it with you free-dumbers? Why is keeping your word such a fluid thing for your ilk?

Scott Duncan It's more like a bunch of Rube Goldberg machines that were set up 300 years ago, and anyone can use them if they know how they work.

Scott Duncan Those in on the "secret" are fighting each other for control of them.

Dino Quiring and only more complicated since, yes?

Scott Duncan You have no idea.

David Johansen i'll try refrazing the question but you will say its none of my business, or i am not qualified to ask... Who and/or what do you have an oath to? and if you hate them so much, what reason is there to keep such an oath?

Scott Duncan Because it was to my grandfather.

Scott Duncan I promised to tell you. I have done so for 30 years. I'm almost done.

Wow. That's some mind blowing information right there.

Zombie thread!

Mackximus Minimus. Are you actually scrolling, or is there a way to find posts that one has started?

It IS a ZOMBIE THREAD! It's a good one too!

God DAMN I'm funny/awesome. I really must read this shit more.

:D

FFS....I have administration to do. These threads are keeping me away from that. :-/

There's been a couple of threads that came back to life. They are still FILLED with value, even when they die. That's the worst part about being me. I'll NEVER experience the thrill of discovery you guys have.

It doesn't seem much of a thrill when it wasn't me who discovered it. I merely understand what has already been discovered by another. You, on the other hand are in a position to actually discover something. To contribute. That would be a thrill.

...and yet I want to kill you all. The irony.

Don't worry, I'm outsourcing that job. TO YOU.

I KNOW, I'll be able to sleep at night. :D

Hello to my Shipmates.

*crickets chirping*

Wow, Michael! You sure can clear a thread!

Well, I don't want to be a Shipmate, it sounds gay :-\

Scott, you said that you had made a promise to your grandfather about telling us the truth.

May I ask why you made that promise... in reference to what?

Oh! And I hate it when people make stupid comments (and I do includ myself in that) when you are on a roll of valuable information for my ilk (hope that is the right way to use this word) and they distract you and leaves us on the side of our seat while reading. And then it dies! :(

:D

Well Pete Daoust sorry but on a Ship we are Shipmates. ..I'm a SEAMAN... HAHAHAHA

I am on land :/

filed! check! :D

Scott Duncan ...and yet I want to kill you all. The irony. 17 hours ago · Like · 1

Scott Duncan Don't worry, I'm outsourcing that job. TO YOU

huh?

I am going to take a stab at that and say that he IS addressing YOU. Whomever that may be.

you = surety. I thought he was saying he wants to kill all the Surety

I read that as kill (civil death) and by killing us by lien adds to his value to the one who liens.

Am I wrong in this thinking?

I think Scott means the whole package, kind of kill.

:D

238 ? :/

from the looks of that muzzel brake. I'm guessing its either a .338 lapua or 50cal bmg