Nov 14, 2013 3:34 PM

Well unlike Menard, Dean Clifford is ratified in the AQUILAE Trust. He's "free" (the trust cannot interfere unless explicitly requested) until that trust is breached.

If he chooses to victimize a group of worthless eaters, that's between him and his conscience.

In the end, I'm STILL right, and I simply have to wait.

Dean Clifford is a child. This is just where he is in his growth. Nothing more. His ratification is for the FUTURE, not now. Even if it was a brief flash of lucidity, he made the right choice. I'm a better slavemaster for the government...

That said; Mika Rasila is correct. If ANYONE is claiming there is "remedy" in the clubhouse rules for a club you aren't a part of, then they are lying. They aren't "mistaken". They aren't "misinformed". They are simply LYING.

If Dean is claiming this, he is lying. It's that simple.

Dean Clifford is free to lie all he wishes. I am the only one prohibited from doing that. It's why I'm the keeper of the trust.

Im kinda new to the "STRAWMAN/PERSON" Game, that's why Im hereScott Duncan is an Excellent Teacher, Im Learning A lot, even though he is Obtuse-Im getting used to that also. I just Hate seeing all the INfighting amongst Brothers! I Admire Dean Clifford and Scott Duncan, and were ALL at Different Learning Stages, lets be Builders of Bridges, not BURNERS!!!!! Excelsior!!

..."ALL at Different Learning Stages"

Fuck you. Seriously. You REALLY think I have "more to learn" about the Noble Lie? REALLY?

Here's a BETTER idea. How about just listening to the guy you think is "slow to understand", who actually knows what he's talking about!

If it contradicts what I say, IT'S WRONG. Simple really!

You can learn that ugly truth the EASY way, or the HARD way.

You are all running out of time. You don't get time back. Blind-leading-the-blind, WASTES TIME. Get it?

I'm sorry that hurts your precious feelings and you have to "get used to it".

I fucking hate the lot of you and if I had the ability to snuff your lives out, I would.

I'm keeping a promise. Nothing more. I have always been honest about that and everything else. EVERY SCRAP OF KNOWLEDGE YOU GET FROM ME IS AGAINST MY WILL AND IS ONLY BECAUSE I KEEP MY WORD.

...Which is FAR more than ANY of you are capable of. You have NO IDEA how much I hate all of you and I have LEGITIMATE REASONS to feel this way.

But I keep my promises.

...which is 1000000 times more than you will get from the Free-Dumb movement.

I'm not one of these Free-Dumbers. Don't lump me in with them.

Why is this stuff so difficult to make sense of? I understand it is all about accounts but cannnot seem to turn the bright light on. I think I'm saturated with disinformation. What is the gawd damn truth?!

You are born into a world that is part of a closed banking system. That's the truth.

It was created by an elite commercial class in English Society in the 1500's. The US war of independence was to ESCAPE the closed banking system of the Commerce Class (The Nobility).

It started because the EAST INDIA CORPORATION was in trouble... and they were "too big to fail". Sound familiar?

It was engineered to be automated and self-maintaining, and it was designed to run in cycles.

Nothing before 1500 AD actually exists in commerce and is considered "prehistory".

You live in the end of one of those cycles.

That's it.

Interesting :)

Thanks Scott Duncan. That's the first time I've heard the whole heinous system described so succinctly :-)

Scott Duncan: You can learn that ugly truth the EASY way, or the HARD way.

OK, I chose "EASY" :P

the guy you think is "slow to understand" Fuck, I feel spotlighted here :D

"dean is a talking head , he has no remedy"

All Dean DOES is help fill-in-the-blanks here-and-there with terms regarding Trust Law...at this point REMEDY to me, is the Government just abiding by their OWN rules thank you very much and nobody would be put in such positions in terms of having difficulty with our SERVANTS btw to begin with!

many ways to skin a cat... we're all on the same side

And since WHEN Dean, is suppose to be or have REMEDIES for any one ?

I thought Dean was a messager, not a REMEDY !! :/

I must have missed another fucking points :(

Haaa, it's so hard to be me :D

Its not Dean's job to PROVIDE for us ANY magic-bullet (thats Scott's job *wink*)...he's just helping to point us in the right-direction, and im thankful just for that

Tom Davis Quote: The certificate MUST be an offer...at the very least it's an offer for citizenship. I've read once in the CED that citizenship is "granted", by the Minister, to individuals born on Canadian land. If something is granted to you, you have a choice of accepting it or not. Correct ??? Along with citizenship comes all those wonderful "laws" (statutes). If we accept this "grant" don't we become a trustee of this "citizenship" ??? Do I have it wrong, guys ???

Pete Daoust Quote Only a PERSON can be a citizen, and I HAVE this PERSON in my pocket, but it's NOT me who created it, I just get to do some administration shit for it........

Dean Clifford Quote : "Only a PERSON can be a citizen", I disagree. There are many types of persons, and many types of citizens. What is the will and intent of the society you are joining, that determines what you will be recognized as.

Dean Clifford Quote: Nope, you have it absolutely correct Tom

Pete Daoust Quote : Ok, than name me something else than a person that could be a Citizen ?

Dean Clifford Quote: Citizen of what would be the next relevant question Pete.

Pete Daoust Quote: The relevant question is give me another word than PERSON to fit with CITIZEN I suspect the answer being, there is NONE.... HELLOSSSS !!! :D

Pete Daoust Quote: Anyway.....Dean disagree about me, saying "only persons can be a Citizen.... I asked him to get back to me with something else that could be a Citizen, other than a Person, and I am still waiting.... :(

Any one in here could help me with this ?

I broke my skull all day long on this, and fuck, I need to know.....

I see 2 types of persons so far and 1 type of citizen, maybe 2, if corporate citizen is something ok to say :(

There are LOTS of definitions for PERSON. Id ask whoever you're dealing with- "Which one is ME? Then...ill tell you if i consent to BEING IT" ...4 different Maxims regarding "An Impossibility within the Law" ;)

“in being” means living or conceived;

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/english/elaws_statutes_90p09_e.htm

Definition.

PERSON:

A creation, that gives a man the opportunity of using it, to do commerce with.

Pete's Law, First Edition :P

The principle is commonly phrased, "Employees tend to rise to their level of incompetence." ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle

Speak to me clearly Derek please :(

HEL...LOS...SSSSSSSSSS... better?

what is this Peter principle shit, and why you've posted it ?

Scott Duncan Not you for the More to Learn bit!!! ME-I have the Learning to do, I know your Spot on, and Value ALL you say!!!! x10! Im in the the 6 th Grade, and have some way to go!!!!

Wow! Pete Daoust and Derek Moran in a no holds barred battle of the `tard titans! *Grabs popcorn*

:D :D

*Derek throws water on this supposed- " Pete Daoust and Derek Moran in a no holds barred battle of the `tard titans!" and shits-on-the-popcorn*

Derek must have won, I can't even follow what the heck he is saying :(

You guys are so fucking gay...

No fucking way Man... :P

Notice Pierre, how Scott got you to BITE and accept SURETY on his- "You guys are so fucking gay"- remark, and i however - did NOT ;)

No fucking way man.....that tells you I ACCEPT something ? :/

You stayed silent, you accepted.....not me, I SAID NO FUCKING WAY :P

Hellosss !!! :P

Hey Scott, did you fuck up a key on the keyboard ? :D

Definition:

Man:

A guy with a penis, preferably alive.

Pete's Law First Edition :P

Ok, now, we have the definition of a PERSON, and the definition of a MAN

What do we do....? ...who is the fucking citizen in there ?

"No fucking way Man..." = Thou doth protest too much

Protest ?.....negates would be more appropriate :P

Think about it another 5 minutes Derek, and come back with something else, I'll kill it in 2 seconds :D

BY WHAT AUTHORITY am i under any OBLIGATION to tell Scott that i am not "fucking gay"?

*fingers-drumrolling*

That dosen't make sense :P

You've brought that SURETY shit, not me

What thread ? :D

Pansies

..you felt the OBLIGATION to tell Scott- "No fucking way Man"

*yawns...goes to get something to eat*

I did NOT felt any obligation, I felt like TELLING him, because I wanted to TELL him

I'd participate but it would get smothered in all this verbal diarrea/graffiti. Sigh.

What's a pansies ? :P

While Derek goes to get something to eat, I'll go make a few hundreds tomatos...... :P ...be back in about ..mmhhhhh... 3 hours, keep calm

"PERSON:

A creation, that gives a man the opportunity of using it, to do commerce with.

Pete's Law, First Edition "

This should read "Pete's Rectum"

https://www.google.com/search?q=pansy+picture&oq=pansy+picture&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.6399j0j9&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8

You've missed the goldest nuggets EVER in here Chris Evan....too bad :-(

Meanwhile, I am in Kanesatake as we speak, and this place is filled with ABoriginals, I am the ONLY white MAN here..... :O

Where did I miss them?

The GOD part :-D

I have no idea what you are talking about, however I just went over to SirMika's page to see how this was playing out.....why is he so angry?

Well, live in the woods for a few years, from camp to camp, playing guitar.....and tell me how happy you'll be :D

It seems that he got angry at some balloon framing Dean did. Now he is just on the attack. Weird guy

I'll go check that out !! :D

Fuck, I am not friend with him, how do I do that ? :(

ehhh...don't bother. Waste of time really

well, nothing in the mail box, so no big deal :P

Strout INFORMS us that The EAST INDIAN CORPORATION, essentially the people/families behind it, just kept changing their corporation’s name.

By creating a new corporation with a new Constitution (which is a promise made to world bankers to be accountable/resolve the bankruptcy of the previous corporate name), they were allowed to continue to help in enslaving us. He flushes this idea out with the offer that each BILL passed is simply a means of creating more situations where we can be held as SURETY for the previous bankruptcy.

While most BELIEVE the newest version/reincarnation of the East Indian Corporation to be the USA, located in the District of Columbia, IN FACT, the USA hasn't existed for some time, and the belief that it does is simply a testament to the strength of their propaganda machine.

Winston concludes with the EAST INDIAN CORPORATION (AKA USA) is now going by the name DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY and is located in Puerto Rico.

Two Questions if I may Scott Duncan 1) Is Shrout correct? 2) Does your promise to tell us the truth and not "snuff" our "lives out" have an expiration date, or, a list of criteria/tasks which you must complete/attempt to FULFILL your OBLIGATION?. :)

:P

I have yet to see Dean request any money for the information he shares, and turns out to be true in all sense in the US as well... I'm the fucking director presenting the beneficiary and I want the court to do this thing right here. Attorney's hate that shit right there.