Nov 05, 2013 6:49 PM

It kind of looks like the 14th Amendment language we have down here....

:D

was found as a deserted child in Canada: So a child is not a HUMAN ? ....fuck..!!!!!

child n. 1) a person's natural offspring. 2) a person 14 years and under. A "child" should be distinguished from a "minor" who is anyone under 18 in almost all states.

:D

So, a child is a BC that was written less than 14 years ago???

OK, I think I will scrap that thread :(

Have they found the person I happen to have in my pocket, as a fucking deserted child before it reached 7 ? >:-(

Tell me I am off track please here .....

Actually.Derek Moran talks about that

Wow....this is making some shit click. Does anyone know where this language is found in the United States Law?

Welll....clause 4

Ok, so they create that person, they deliver that thing to the wrong address by mistake….so that thing is momentary LOST, and if it stays lost for 7 years, it become a CITIZEN, and then I have 7 years to tell them—HEY HEY HEY….it’s NOT lost for fuck sakes, you just sent it to the wrong address..!!!

So HOW can I tell them—Hey, I have found that person, it's IN my pocket :P

I don’t get it :(

Or I might be wwaaayyyyyy off track here... HELP !!!!!!

Or maybe there are some REAL deserted child in Canada under the age of 7, and when they find them, they all have a person in their pocket ? :D

How do you know they delivered it to the wrong address?

I think this has to do with the "coat check ticket" conversation Scott and Derek had. I didn't get it the 3 times I have read it so far though..... :-/ Mackximus, I think this is what we were discussing.......

It was suppose to be delivered to the Receveur General....according to what I've read here....so the receveur general could do his duty with that thing, but instead, it was delivered to "ME", and I used it for IDENTIFICATION purpose, so I can become SURETY for that thing :D

I am NOT sure of all this.....I get it that way for now :(

Don't beat me with a basebal bat please....

Deliverd to the wrong address?? Hahahaha...the PERSON is created(Berthed/birthed) as a citizen[the STATE created it!!]this is the SHANGHAI'D part!! derka derka!see 2 stat 153..you take it[consent] (cause they gave it to you) an you presume that it is "you"... the PERSON was berthed as a CITIZEN and is now a subject...and to think people come here and wanna be this! hahahaa!! IT IS LOST[lost on the seas] AS "NO PROOF OF LIFE" WAS GIVEN no one said anything at the age of majority!!...see "cesti que vie" you as the PERSON are presumed DEAD..they[corporations] cannot talk to the living and only communicate with the DEAD....have you given proof of life to state you are not lost at sea?

How can I give proof of life? Show up?

are you trying to collapse the trust or express it??...

"How can I give proof of life"? Why do you need to prove to strangers that you are "alive"?

Do you want to provide the same "proof of life" to Wal-Mart?

Was the person created for my benefit?

NO! Why do you think such stupid shit?

WHY would they create it for YOUR "benefit"? Because they love you?

I'll bet fall for "you've just won a cruise" too.

What is the benefits/costs to collapsing it and expressing it?

Express it :-P

If you don't know, then you have missed the whole point of the group. THAT takes a special kind of stupid.

VERY impressive.

That person has not been created for MY benefit, but it's in my pocket.....so guess what ? :-D

currently = LEGAL estate/interest/person = cost

goal = EQUITABLE estate/interest/person = benefit

Anyway, I guess I'll keep doing what I am doing, and some dots will connect on my way of doing stuff.....

Or I'll see you all in Hell and/or in Jail :D

famous last words of tim turner....

Never met that guy :/

CHRIS > Scott Duncan: THE Creator has the SUPREME law. YOU are THE creator. "God" is an invention by the nobility to FILL that "THE CREATOR" spot, so you will think you aren't entitled.

The Creator of WHAT though ultimately?.....the Creator of YOUR Trust

Yep, and this QUOTE from Scott makes me want to CREATE :D

Scott Duncan: It's ALL "Clubhouse Rules". Ratifying a TRUST means you get to make YOUR OWN "clubhouse rules".

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/aep/Cha2/18-19/11

(SCOTT clicked LIKE on this) - Robert Cormier: Scott Duncan - When I give PROPER NOTICE to the PUBLIC, and NO OBJECTIONS are RECORDED (through the POST), is the TRUST, at that moment, RATIFIED?

Chris- where exactly IS that 'coat-check-ticket'-thread analogy i used, you mentioned?

Remember when you said <something> was like a coat check ticket....then no one ever picked up the coat?

Its not too far down....

I remember that, but always wonder what is the COAT, if tou redeem that coupon :)

The analogy Derek Moran used, seems to be missing something, or is imcomplete... :/

I want to collapse the CQV trust..

The Executor of the Estate must be found alive and well by making proper public notice to many witnesses. This could be done by making proper legal notice in the county seat newspapers legal section; then recording it in the county recorders office, then running the add once more. If no one rebuts your claim as being the Executor of YOUR Estate, then, perhaps you really are the Executor of that Estate ;)

Corpus juris secundum:

BOOK 1, "ABSENTEE", page 340: Due process limitations upon governmental regulation of the estates of absentees are treated in CJS "Constitutional Law SECTION 1421. (let's follow the hint and go there....)

BOOK 16D - "CONSTITUTION"

SECTION 1421. "Estates of Absentees and Persons Presumed to Be Dead." Under the constitutional guaranties against the taking or deprivation of property without due process of law, a probate court has no power under its general authority to administer the property of a person who is alive. However, a status conferring power on courts to regulate and to administer the states of absentees, presumptively dead, is valid, where the procedure satisfies constitutional requirements, as where provision is made for giving proper notice of the proceeding and adequate safeguards are provided to protect the absentee's interests in case of his reappearance, as by proving for the preservation of the estate for a reasonable period before permitting distribution ...

I forgot to add: You are not actually the executor per-say, you are only occupying that office. Anytime you deal with the Ass-Clowns, it is "office to office", not person to person . I studied this several years back when David Clarence was on the scene, but his "Yawhwe" shit eventually ran me off. He has several YouTube radio recordings where he taught his "Executor Letter", but I think they were running into problems with the postal service, etc. Nonetheless, he revealed some good information on the gov't created estates via the Certificate of Live Birth.

"Office of the Executor" :-)

Found it! Here is what David taught on public notices:

"There are Three Types of Notice: 1. Legal Notice which is County-Wide - that is Found within the LEGAL NOTICE Classified Section of Every County-Seat Newspaper; Every Attorney Reads that LEGAL NOTICE Section EVERY Day!!! 2. Public Notice which is World-Wide - that is Made By a Recording With the County Recorder Office; 3. Actual Notice which is Specific - that is Made By Service Using Certified Mail and is Personal.... I suppose that there exists other examples - such as I tell you to stop and you fail to take notice and I drop you were you don't under-Stand,,,,, For the Purposes of the Estate, the Executor has been Absent or AOL Since Attaining Age of Majority or twenty-one years,,,, Now Suddenly Someone [the World Knows Who They Are] Appears and Claims To Occupy the Executor Office.... Has There Been Notice Given? Which is Due-Process of Law.... We Suggest that you Folk's Seeking To Fill and Function Within the Executor or Executrix Office Do The Following: Publish the following in the LEGAL NOTICE Section of the County-Seat Newspaper [and if you have to ask what or which that is - You Are NOT Competent to do this]; I [David Clarence Schroll] am Executor to the DAVID CLARENCE SCHROLL [Note four spaces] Estate as Witnessed by my Sole Ability to Personally Obtain a CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH and Do Hereby Give Legal, Lawful, Public and Actual Notice of The Same - Hereby and Herein. By: executor David Clarence Schroll, of my own right. nation Pennsylvania. general post-office. county York. Schroll Province. United States Minor Outlying Islands. Normally a Legal Notice must appear in the county seat newspaper Once per Week for Three Weeks - Then it is Considered to Be a Fact. Then the Newspaper Will Provide a Certification of the Publication; Take that Certification and Record it with the County Recorder; When the Recorder Returns the Original Marked, Stamped and Recorded - "Re-Publish" that Recording in the County-Seat Newspaper worded like this: This is "Re-Notice" that the former Legal Notice given by Publication [Insert the Publication dates here] in this Newspaper - has been Duly Recorded with the [York County Recorder Book [XXX] and Page [XXXX] and is Now and Forever Legal, Lawful, Public and Actual Notice of The Same - Hereby and Herein. By: executor David Clarence Schroll, of my own right. nation Pennsylvania. general post-office/ county York. Schroll Province. United States Minor Outlying Islands. Now - When you Obtain the Certification from that Newspaper - Take that Certification and "Re-Record" it with the County Recorder; AND Attach One-Dollar To It As Previously Instructed [and if you weren't paying attention then you are NOT Competent To Do This]. When that is completed - Obtain a Certified Copy of This Recording and Photo-copy AND the First Recording and Serve those copies upon the following: Governor Office Birth State; and Governor Office of Present State if Not Living on Birth State; Secretary of State Office Birth State; and Secretary of State Office of Present State if Not Living on Birth State; Treasurer Office Birth State; and Treasurer Office of Present State if Not Living on Birth State; Attorney General Office Birth State; and Attorney General Office of Present State if Not Living on Birth State; United States Secretary of State Office; United States Office of the Treasury; United States Office of the Department of the Treasury; There may be other Offices that should be notified such as the Bureau of Census and Department of Commerce, you may do so if you'd like.... Use CERTIFIED MAIL for each mailing as We Showed You How To Do - on a Cover Letter to Each of Those Offices, using the Executor Office Letter Format [if You can't figure out how to do this you are NOT Competent To Do So]. A copy of the CERTIFIED COPY of the ORIGINAL Recording and Final Re-Recording is to Be Attached "by" paper-clip to Every Executor Letter that You Serve From that Time Foreword and in the Person of the Executor Office Before All BAR-Fly Tribunals and to the Notice of Mailing Location Change to General Post-Office.... Now Conduct Yourself Competently Within the Executor or Executrix Office and - Go and Sin No More.... Praise Your Yahweh Father For His Blessing's,,,,,, You are Less that Twenty-Four Month's From His Judgement "12-21-12" = 333"

Cipher though the Yahweh horseshit and use what you can use if your goal is to make proper public notice regarding the office of executor.

Oh my jesus shit !!! :O

With regards to the Ceste que vie Act of 1666: I really don't give a flying fuck about some 16th century ass-hat who declared me dead and lost at sea. I wouldn't get your minds too wrapped up into this horseshit and go off the deep end on trying to "regain your stolen soul" .... LOL

Stick with what Scott teaches; with what Dean is teaching, and don't go down a REAL DEEP rabbit hole trying to figure that shit out.

I say I'm alive and well, and some 16th century ass-hat isn't here to rebut my claim ;)

Don't worry for me, I won't even touch that stuff.....bring me a bill of exchange please :-D

Yeah, show me that 16th century contract I signed ;)

Pete, I was thinking, you happen to have a person in your pocket, yes? Isn't that a tender for law? If a $10 bill is a tender for law and possessing one is a liability, isn't the person in your pocket the same thing?

On another note, do I have this right? I was born. My parents and some bureaucrat made a person because the bureaucrat needed money and my parents were ignorant. Then the bureaucrat published a notice in the paper and sent my parents a copy of the Birth Certificate. My parents thought that represented me, but they were duped and mistakenly called me SURETY. Then, when that person turned 7, some bureaucrat decided that the person was probably absent or dead because no one claimed it ( <<< is that sentence correct?) So now there is an estate that needs to be collapsed (or the value needs to be taken away from it).....

Is that right?

You still don't know what a TENDER FOR LAW is.

It is an unconditional offer of the rule of law. That is all. The currency/accounting that follows means the tender is already accepted (or you are commiting fraud).

Chris Evan, the person I happen to have in my pocket is in there since FOREVER ad far as I am concern, and it's not me who put it there.....think about that part....I often say in this group AND IT'S NOT MY FAULT....that's what I am refering to.....

The person is not me I did not asked for it I did not created it I am not surety for it I can only administrate it

I can ALMOST say the same thing for the $10 bill, except for one thing.......I asked for it :-)

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/rule+of+law

The two essential characteristics of tender are an unconditional offer to perform, together with manifested ability to do so, and the production of the subject matter of tender. The term is generally used in reference to an offer to pay money; however, it may properly be used in reference to an offer of other kinds of property.

Pete, it's true your staring to think right! :D

Is it just me or does any one else think we are at hogwarts? It is very strange... (The Admiral's school of Wizardry) Fucking Law is Magic for fuck sakes, Creating something out of nothing with words. In a different language that seems common... IE: In the myths of certain pop fictions: If you know someones true name, you have power over them... seems quite similar. An observation from the edge of reality... :-D

Nope Jason, we are at THE TENDER FOR LAW :) .....fuck this Hogwarts School, :D

And few of us are realizing the LUCK we have .... ;) ....which will perpetuate this FACT that MAJORITY is ALWAYS wrong :D

It's an analogy... a metaphor... A bit of joke...... The similarities to what we were taught through all forms of influence; media, education, church, whatever social engineering platform, about things like magic and mystery... When in reality it is Law... And yes One Concurs we happen to be a very small minority, learning on a platform with something like 500 million users.. and there are maybe 20 -30 of us here who are real :-D

I have to admit that for me, as a TOKEN, it is easier to see that luck, and even feel it, so it, in a sense, double the LUCK in my case :P

maybe triple :-D

Hahaha!

It's an analogy... a metaphor...A bit of joke...... : Fuck Jason, not the three of these in the same posts.....it can only CONFUSES me :D

I know... :-D

Anyway, it's a lot of fun being a TOKEN, no need to hide behind SMARTNESS, it allows me to be me, Muhahahahahaha!!!!!

So fuck you ALL, and keep STRUGELING :P

And see you in Jail and/or in Hell... :D

^^^^That was a bit of a joke, a bit of a truth, a bit of a metaphore, a bit of irony and a bit of bullshit :D

if you're smart, it is not hiding :-D or struggling... A bit funny too...

you're :P

shit

.... struggling... :-)

In an effort to understand, i did not create this TRUST(legal). My parents and this governmernt did. Because I trusted (mentally) them, for they could only be doing what is best for me, ;) I am entitled to this Birth Certificate. The only value it has is what value I give it through laboring.And since I am presumed to be lost and/or incompetent and/or not of age to be the executor, I must give proper notice. Please forgive me if any of my thinking is wrong and help me to correct my thinking.

Because I trusted (mentally) them: How could you do that, you were 3 weeks old :P

I am entitled to this Birth Certificate: Not "ME", I happen to HAVE IT in my pocket :P

I was only 3 weeks old but my incompetent parents led me to believe it was me. I trusted they them to know and teach me what was right in the following years.

It's up to you, I guess it's different for each of us....

Thank you Pete for showing me the error in my thinking.

Once I remembered to add in this accounting and surety I came to a much different reason for why only I could walk in and get that birth certificate.

The only thing I know for sure, so far, Phillip Prater....is:

I am a Man, and I have a person

Now, I will ADMINISTRATE that person the best I can....

All the past, and who did that and who did not did that, I really don't give a shit......if MISTAKES were made, well so be it, apparently, mistakes are FIXABLE :D

I didn't know Dean had "furry" parties. Why did we at least not receive an invitation? The things you learn about people on the internet!

What's a furry parties ? :/

You had to ask...

..ive got a 'Woolly-Mammoth?'

Oh non....please, don't start this again :(

A "furry" or plushie is someone with an interest in stuffed animals. In some cases, this is manifested in a sexual attraction, although this is more the exception to the norm. Still not sure how furry you need to be to get an invitation though. Never, mind...it's probably not important.

:D

Hmm sounds similar to the doc I saw (but could not finish) on women who have sexual relationships with inanimate objects.