History: I'm home schooling my son and have been for years. The government harasses me with contracts regarding the above. (SEE - Aldous Home School Form 2010 - web.jpg in the file section) They send me contracts and DEMAND that I fill them out ACCURATELY, sign them, and submit the document to them. THEY say this is MANDATORY. It’s obvious that they want me to be liable to punishment and, or other damages/financial penalties they may wish to inflict on me from time to time as they see fit. Reading their clubhouse rules, I realize that they might claim they have the AUTHORITY to remove him from my custody if they aren’t pleased with what he is learning, and or, should I FAIL to teach him everything they want me to.
Problem: ^^ That SUCKS!
Desired Outcome: I don’t want to be held accountable to a corporation that doesn’t have his best interest at heart, nor, do I want to be BOUND, and, or LEGALLY OBLIGATED to teaching him all of THEIR AGENDA. (He is only allowed to sing “OH HAPPYFACE SID LAND” in the morning, if he wants to).
Question: If SCOTT DUNCAN received one of these in the post, how would he respond/proceed to achieve my goals in this regard?
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Robert Cormier
Actually, after having read my post, I realize I misspoke. He can sing pretty much what he pleases. I just don't want him singing a PLEDGE committing to stand ON GUARD for a CORPORATION. At least not one that isn't his. :)
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Chris Evan
Looks like a mistake to me as the beneficiary of a Public Document has been mistakenly identified as your son.
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Pete Daoust
WHO's mailbox that shit came in ? :/
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Pete Daoust
To WHOM these letters were addressed to ? :/
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Pete Daoust
The government harasses me: Are you sure they harass YOU ? :/
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Pete Daoust
They send me contracts and DEMAND: Are you sure these contracts are sent to YOU ? :/
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Pete Daoust
It’s obvious that they want me to be liable to punishment : Are you sure they want YOU to be liable and bla bla bla ? :/
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Pete Daoust
they may wish to inflict on me: mmhhh, are you SURE ? :/
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Pete Daoust
how would he respond/proceed to achieve my goals in this regard?: I can't answer for Scott Duncan, but "ME", I would think ADMINISTRATION......all the way :D
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Pete Daoust
Dear Governement,
I am the sole authorized administrator for ROBERT CORMIER, and THE CHILD,
And I would like to administrate these 2 person's affairs the way I see fit, you seems to want to TAKE OVER on the administrations of these 2 persons, and I would like to know by what AUTHORITY you can do that.
Please send me in writing by what authority you can take over in the administrations of these 2 persons, and I WILL obey on the spot
Thanks for having thinking of taking good care of us.
BY:_______________________
Sole authorized Admin. for ROBERT and the CHILD
:P
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Pete Daoust
I know you can come up with something way more sexy, but I suggest to NOT drawn this thing in too much details :D
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Pete Daoust
HELLOSSS !!!!! :D
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Robert Cormier
As I understand, by registering his birth he became CARGO and a WARD of the QUEEN (not the lady with funny hats). The corporation claims I MUST (may = must) ensure through the NOTICE OF INTENT, that I will provide "the child" an education. By education, they mean their curriculum. It seems to me a bit more complicated because he is a child. I refused to submit the application once. I was threatened by a social worker to have Family and Children's Services notified that there is a concern that I am not willing to commit to EDUCATE him as per their curriculum. In the old days, they would allow you to teach a child what you want (think Mennonites). While they may still allow Mennonites to do this, by there actions regarding my son, us "normal" citizens don't seem to have that option.
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Gail Marie
where does it state that you MUST teach him their agenda? have you seen this website? http://www.ontariohomeschool.org/HRLaw.html
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Pete Daoust
Fuck that shit :(
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Pete Daoust
Fuck that shit too :D
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Robert Cormier
Pete Daoust - I'm guessing administrative solution as well. :)
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Pete Daoust
I am NOT guessing
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Pete Daoust
Fuck the guessing :(
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Pete Daoust
WHY guessing ? :/
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August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
Sounds like a matter for a PRIVATE TRUST with 2 liens and a trustee you can TRUST, like a corporation you create to head them off at the pass, it's accounting and surety, put property into the trust for SAFE keeping.... With the corp as administrator you can trust it... and be away from them...
the void or whatever every fucking document that states authority...
the proxy could save your ass.
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Pete Daoust
Seriously Robert Cormier, ALL these questions up there are DRASTICLY important, answer them one by one for fun :)
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August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
Yes... there is a point to his madness ... :-D
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Pete Daoust
Come on Bob.....
1st. WHO's mailbox that shit came in ?
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Robert Cormier
Gail Marie Satisfactory instruction equals their curriculum. At least that is what I was told. I will check out the site you recommended. Thanks.
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Gail Marie
At the Blackman school of life the creator decides what is satisfactory instruction :D
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Pete Daoust
Et voila.....you will bury yourself in some stupid shit.....good luck !!!!
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Gail Marie
mind you I think the school was most happy I chose to be a creator away from them lol
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Pete Daoust
What the fuck is wrong with everyone ? :'(
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August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
Why?
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Gail Marie
Don't cry Pete, what's wrong?
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Pete Daoust
OK, I'll give it one more shot :D
WHO's mailbox that shit came in ?
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August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
HAHAHAHA
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Robert Cormier
1. Have them address me in writing. 2. Notice of Mistake that I am not who they think I am. I see the administrative possibilities. I just don't want to "screw up" and have them disappear him for his "well being" for weeks while I sort out the details.
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Pete Daoust
WHO's mailbox that shit came in ?
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Robert Cormier
I want to go off with both barrels, so to speak, so they understand exactly WHO is in charge of his EDUCATION. :)
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Pete Daoust
WHO's mailbox that shit came in ?
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August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
answer him I dare ya...
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Pete Daoust
HELLOSSS !!! ??? :/
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Gail Marie
in my case, 6 yrs ago I knew nothing and printed the form off and sent it in...I had no issue taking responsibility for my daughters education and letting them know it
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Dean Kory
If you have not made a claim to your offspring they still own it and you better do as your told by your masters or else!
Robert Cormier
Pete Daoust - Sent to the name in my wallet.
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Robert Cormier
They seem to be tightening their control. At first I didn't respond. Now I do because of their threats. < Only verbal threats at this point, yet the worker convinced me she was serious and I didn't want to test her to see if she was bluffing.
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Pete Daoust
You mean the PERSON in your pocket ?
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Robert Cormier
Yes PERSON. The worker threatened ME though....and him.
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Dean Kory
Threats are against the "LAW!"
Dean Kory
You sure they just didn't use intimidation?
Pete Daoust
OK, Robert Cormier, next time a PUBLIC SERVANT threats you, ask her/him WHEN exactly you have to begin to be afraid :D
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Pete Daoust
You need ALLLLLL THE DATAILS.....tell her/him, you are just like that :D
Dean Kory
Coercion?
Dean Kory
Un Due influence?
August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
Duress...
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Pete Daoust
Strake II :D
Dear Governement,
I am the sole authorized administrator for ROBERT CORMIER, and THE CHILD,
And I would like to administrate these 2 person's affairs the way I see fit, you seems to want to TAKE OVER on the administrations of these 2 persons, and I would like to know by what AUTHORITY you can do that.
Please send me in writing by what authority you can take over in the administrations of these 2 persons, and I WILL obey on the spot
And I am really scared to death when you call me and threatening me
Thanks for having thinking of taking good care of us.
BY:_______________________
Sole authorized Admin. for ROBERT and the CHILD
:D
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Pete Daoust
HELOOSSS!!!! :D
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Pete Daoust
They will ANSWER this in about....let me think....mmhhhh 72 years :D
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Robert Cormier
I've said this before.... I am prepared to go to jail for my convictions. I just don't want my son to be disappeared. After his birth, he was dissappeared for almost 4 months and I wasn't allowed to see him. Took me that long to establish some privileges. Don't want to go that route again. My son shouldn't have to go through that nonsense. I proved them wrong regarding their CONCERNS and got some people in big trouble. But we can never get that time back again.
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Pete Daoust
The NAME in my WALLET....where in the fuck.....you see WHY I think you are a cop Robert Cormier ?.....because you THINK like one :P
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Dean Kory
Everyone makes their own choice what they are willing to do for freedom!
Pete Daoust
Wow!!! Dean Otf Kory, that's a bit SPIRITUAL :D
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Robert Cormier
My NAME isn't THEIR NAME is what I meant. You are right though Pete, I need to seperate my NAME from the nAME of their PERSON. :(
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Pete Daoust
Fuck, that would be about TIME :/
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Dean Kory
Listen to what Pete is trying to tell you!...You Don't have a NAME!
August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
Oy... fucktards... :-D
Isolate yourselves in admiralty law thru a TRUST.
Lien the fucking names and safe at third...
fuck
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Pete Daoust
Lien the fuckin PERSON
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August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
Safe at third.... SAFE
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Pete Daoust
Stop calling this shit a NAME please please please.....or I will ban you .......oh no, I can't do that, this is NOT my group.....sorry :D
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Dean Kory
PERSON = SURETY
August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
Everything associated with the Name/person. All fucking business with the NAME/Person accounts in my back fucking pocket... shit
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Pete Daoust
OK, let's follow with question no. 2 Robert Cormier.....
To WHOM these letters were addressed to ?
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Robert Cormier
I've never hit a woman. His mom wanted to split when he was a child and she decided to get protection from the law to help ensure she got custody. She made horrible allegations. They (the police and F&CS) disappeared her and my son. Finally, I proved they were all liars. Yet that took several months. Almost a year. Now I have sole custody.
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Robert Cormier
^^ Just don't want to go through that trauma again. :(
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Pete Daoust
Oh, very interesting but....
To WHOM these letters were addressed to ?
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August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
Answer the fucking questions.
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August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
and you wont have to.
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Robert Cormier
They were addressed to a PERSON and not to me.
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Pete Daoust
LOL :D
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Pete Daoust
Helloosss ???
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Pete Daoust
We can't do this all night, so please call NOW :D
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Robert Cormier
The woman in my face claimed she was speaking to ME. :( Then disappeared with my son for months. F&CS hates me. They'd love to cause me trouble. As I understand, a few left, a few were let go, and a few didn't get their promotion.
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Pete Daoust
OK, fuck it and fuck you.....
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Pete Daoust
Go get a fucking psychiatrist of shit.....bye !!! :P
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Gail Marie
Robert, its all business ....don't attach to the emotion of it
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August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
Scott this Seriously reminds me of this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=airT-m9LcoY&feature=share
the timing... :-D
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Gail Marie
the emotions are what they are and worth freeing yourself of...but in this situation...treat it like it is you are the CEO of your business dealing with them
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Pete Daoust
I hope your Son dosen't see this, oh man.... !!! :/
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Robert Cormier
I attatch very little emotion to it except the next nano second, i think of my son and the impact being disappeared would have on him. Then I get emotional. Like an angry protective grizzly bear.
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Gail Marie
I know and that creates fear and they are using that against you
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Pete Daoust
Well, I was thinking more of an emotional little stupid faggot grenouille, but hey, that is just me .....sorry
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Robert Cormier
While I realize there are no guarantees, I would love some words of wisdom on this from Scott Duncan. I'm prepared to fill these forms as long as I need to if there isn't a sound administrative response that only the biggest idiot would challenge.
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Pete Daoust
Scott Duncan, we need you in here.....we need WISDOM and consolations please.....
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Pete Daoust
And LOVE.....forgot that
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Robert Cormier
I'm going to go through the F&CS thread again. :(
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Pete Daoust
Oh, thinking of it, wisdom, consolation, LOVE...... Ceit Butler please, we need you in here :D
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August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
What's the game Robert?
Its not a fucking game right...
So if you truly would like the fear to leave.
Educate yourself on the PPSA and the application thereof.
Form a PRIVATE Trust, and by proxy you can keep your property and kin.
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Robert Cormier
I am getting emotional and doing some emotional gut reaction shit smearing here. Sorry! :)
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August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
were you raised by chicks?
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Robert Cormier
For the most part....my dad died when I was six.
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Pete Daoust
FUCK.....I am leaving, !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Pete Daoust
Welcome to the FAGGOT-on-the-land facebook GROUP :D
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Robert Cormier
Bobis Youruncle - I'm going whole hog on deciphering this trust info. Gonna read some more of that, and the F&CS thread.
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August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
ok, that explains some things.
time to grow a pair now.
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Robert Cormier
FUCK OFF. I am not scared for me. I am concerned for my son. Grow the FUCK UP!
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August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
That's more like it...
my point is being lost in emotion will remove your reason, try to calm down and answer questions put to you so we all may learn.
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Robert Cormier
Fuck, I share my story and concerns and I'm attatacked because I don't want my son to go through that shit? Really? Now you've got me laughing. You are kidding right?
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August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
It is a big deal I get that. My intent is not malicious at all.
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August le Blanc
Think about it... really.
August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
did this just happen?
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Robert Cormier
I served in the CAF. Joined when I was 17 and was fully prepared and trained to kill a man, or many. At 21, I fought six cops on the corner of Queen and McCaul in TO. It took the fourth cop car to get me under their control. They don't scare me for my sake. Trust me. I'm a trained killer. :P
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August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
If you were raised by women, who are not awake, you may have an emotional predisposition due to environmental influences in early development is all.
Just some knowledge I picked up along the way
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Robert Cormier
It happens every September.
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Dean Kory
Your son would not be in this situation if you took the time to learn your rights...you have been shot at by the enemy and you have succumbed to fear! Grow some balls and shoot back!
Dean Kory
Some people have actually died fighting for freedom...It all boils down to "what are you prepared to do?"
August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
Define Freedom.
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Robert Cormier
I get that guys. I really do. I am getting ready to stand my ground. I thought I might get Scott's input before I do. I realize this is about freedom and that essentially all my problems stem from my own misunderstanding.
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Dean Kory
Your answers are written in the group posts already...do your research! READ!
Ceit Butler
But...but..Pete, what about Tara?? It's not a party unless we're all here :p
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Dean Kory
We can't learn it for you!
Robert Cormier
I know that. That's why I am asKING.
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August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
and you have been given answers... what you do now is yours.
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Robert Cormier
Anyone every here the term MISANDRY? It was a word and a concept that never dawned on me until F&CS came into my life.
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August le Blanc
nope. do tell.
Robert Cormier
The hatred of men by both men and woman. Men are only good for fucking, paying child support and being cannon fodder. How dare they (men) ask for equal custody from the courts kind of attitude...everyone knows that woman are better protectors and men are basically useless shits that should be poorly treated by other men, woman, the courts, police and FB pages. Men should be despised and treated as less than by all. And, they should be devoid of any emotions concerning their treatment by others due to misandry. Almost funny, built in spell checks often identify the word as a spelling mistake. That's how little the concept is considered. Studied this in Sociology. http://exposingfeminism.wordpress.com/what-is-misandry/
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August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
There is a Weiss's trust handbook either in the files above or on CheifRock's page in the files.... read it and it will not matter once you have some further comprehension.
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Robert Cormier
If that's the 70 page or so booklet....i've read it twice and have recently started again. :) :D
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August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
Ok..
They compare a corporation to a trust, but they do not talk about the corporation being part of the trust... as trustee. Think and do some more reading.
all these questions have been answered,
you have to dig a little more.
I remeber talking to you about this months ago now.
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August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
P.S. Get off the Cross we need the wood :-D
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Robert Cormier
lol
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Robert Cormier
Off to study some more and have a smoke break. Later.
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Robert Cormier
Misandry is not merely a perception btw. It's reality. Here's an example...97% of men who seek shared/equal custody (for example) are not deemed worthy, capable, or deserving. That's reality, not some shit pulled out of my ass or me feeling sorry for myself. It's a fact. I am one of the 3% that overcame misandry!
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August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
ya ya, not relevant... learn and it will go away with an appropriate administrative process...
So you can overcome the next step. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Robert Cormier
I'm thinking that when F&CS and the police first came "after me", a number of ACCOUNTS were created. Once I was able to prove my claims in court and disprove theirs, an ACCOUNTANT approached many of those involved, and said someone has to pay. Hence the lost jobs, people demoted, and no promotions for a bunch of them. I'm guessing (half guessing as per other info from Scott and Shrout) that a few of the frontline soldiers didn't have bonds large enough to pay the BoEs they so quickly created without a second thought. They were all so quick to run to the "poor girls defence" without even asking me a question to verify her story. In the end, their misandry (the ease at which they were willing to attack me without any justifiable cause - other than I am a man and she's a woman) worked against them, and to my advantage. Side Note: Misandry can perhaps be employed to our advantage in an ART OF WAR kind of way. I could look at it as a means of generating some credit through the lien process. Hmmm.
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August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
First things First...
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August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
Dean Otf Kory listend to you on the air the other night.
I get your motivation
Freedom
Freedom: —... embraces both the absence of coercion and constraint, and the right to manifest beliefs and practices.” R. v. Big M Drug Mart Ltd. (1985), 18 D.L.R. (4th) 321 at 354 (S.C.C.).
http://www.irwinlaw.com/cold/freedom
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Robert Cormier
Is there a link to that available?
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Dean Kory
please notice that the Charter of Rights and Freedoms only applies to Parliment and agents of the government and is not applicable to the private citizen at all! look up section 32 and 52
August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
I get that, but these are the rules they go by...
Sec 32 is my fav...
So Define freedom then please.
I cannot find a recent reference.
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Dean Kory
Never listen to anything a fuckin lawyer has to say! They are all liers and just as Scott would like to see a "Kick a cop in the face day" Whats better is a "Hang a Lawyer a second hour!"
Dean Kory
You define the words you use...only you know your true intent and never let others dictate what you mean by what you say as it is your mind and no one elses!
August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
But if you are so passionate about this, can you not define it?
how would you define freedom, I am serious
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August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
Your going into their playground and you want to use your definitions? How will they understand you?
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Dean Kory
Your rights end where another's begins and as long as you do no harm you should be free to live your life your way...thats freedom(my definition)
August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
cool....
So how will you get them to recognize your rights?
They have not so far. 76 days worth.
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Dean Kory
I don't care if they understand me! I only know that I will never let them cause me to be afraid and allow that fear to control me!
August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
Knowledge is great to alleviate fear.
You spoke earlier on this thread above about knowing your rights...
What rights do you think you have in their playground?
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Dean Kory
It's only there playground until I get there then it's mine!
August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
please don't give me the ra ra freedom thing.
Specifically what rights do you have in their playground?
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August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
Ok... so how are you making it yours?
Theres that their thing again...
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Dean Kory
none...The deck is stacked against you in there jurisdiction...I'm there to create transcripts and collect information to show others whats really going on...think of it like recon durring war!
August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
ah... never mind, I guess time will tell...
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August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
well good luck on your mission then...
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Dean Kory
Thanks!...
August le Blanc · Bobis Youruncle
Take a helmet...
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Blake Gardner
Freedom IS all about leverage in an adversarial system...more leverage, more freedom...you gotta get leverage...
Scott Duncan
Dean Otf Kory, you are wasting your time.
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Blake Gardner
I may as well be in china, because leverage here in dk comes at a 1.5% fee of the lien value, and it then must be approved.
Scott Duncan
Research the waiver entitlements. It takes some searching but ALL government fees can be waived.
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