Oct 15, 2013 8:30 PM

Focus on my posts, you'll never feel confused again ! ;-)

Accept it and Discharge it.....

Look who's talking, imagine we would have told you this a month ago......explaine a bit to this new member.....be a leader Chris Evan.... :-D

:-D It takes me a while to come around!

We need to be LEADERS....remember how much time I've spent to kick this in your head :-P

Yup....MONTHS! AT also

Ok, so now explaine it to this new member, I will observe.... :-)

:-) I accept the seal and/or signature. I write on the front in letters the amount to remit (ADVICE). I write on the front "Non Negotiable, Non Transferrable, Without Recourse". I flip it over write "Received by:" autograph it. I write "Date" and write the Date. I then write "Exemption ID: xxxxxxxxxx" (that is the SSN without dashes.

And Mr Schulte just got another one of these BoE's in his mailbox today. :-)

What the fuck ? :-(

Did I miss something?

It's not an exemption number, it's an ACCOUNT number

You don't need to write fuckall on the front side, the back side only....

I have used the following to refuse five tickets totalling $2,990.00. I remember first, to keep the peace with my fellow man. When a Bonded Insurance Policy Enforcement Officer presumes to have the authority to issue a ticket in a name to which he or she is not the lawful holder in due course of, 'my name', I accept the presentment. It means nothing if I accept the ticket at roadside. I take the ticket to the post office within seventy two hours and refuse it. The way I refuse a ticket is this;

I print in red ink, upwards left to right on the face of the ticket,

Refused for Cause Without Dishonour Without Prejudice Without Recourse Non Assumpsit

I then have the postal clerk stamp the ticket, a copy of the stamped ticket(an original for my records) and the envelope. I then mail the ticket to the address on the back of the ticket for payment or dispute.

...and that's about it.

I went to the Post Office today to send something to the Government by Registered Mail. The usual lady i deal with who is cool was not there. I usually get what im sending weighed first, then i pay, then i go get the stamped envelope and the letter photocopied at the photocopier right next to the Postal Outlet (inside a Shoppers Drug Mart), but, i always get my LETTER stamped by them too before i photocopy it. There was a new-girl there today, told me that will be the only time she will stamp my letter in the future because, as she said- "Oh we cant DO that. By us STAMPING your letter, this means that we are AGREEING to whatever you are doing here"

Is there something ILLEGAL Scott for a Canada Post worker to 'stamp' your letter, the same as they STAMP the envelope, the same as they STAMP the back of the registered-mail-ticket they give you?

I just sent back a photo radar with "refuse for cause and clarification — surety attached" and had a copy of notarized birth certificate stapled to the back.

Okay, Lawful Man. I write in red ink Refused for Cause etc. Go to the Post Office and ask the clerk to stamp it, then go and photocopy the ticket (in colour I presume). I keep the original, yes? Send them the photocopy. It is then up to the garda if they bring it to court or not?

Beverly, I do not know what a photo radar is (some sort of fine?) I read your post five times before it actually clicked with me. That's very clever!

I wateched a video where a dude signed the tiecket and put "UCC 1-308" after it. The cope looked at it and said "You just voided the ticket."

Lee Edgely, the only original I keep is a copy of the stamped ticket which also has a stamp.

The stamp has the location of the post office and the date. I tell the clerk that I need a stamp so I can show later that I did send the document in on time and from where. How you deal with people has a great impact on the results you get from them. I convey the importance of their official stamp on an official document. It does not hurt to pander to people's egos. Telling the clerk that you want to be able to prove that 'This' document went into 'This' envelope and was witnessed by 'This' honest official goes a long way. The stamp indicates witness rather than endorsing an agreement. The ticket is endorsed (signed) by a Bonded Insurance Policy Enforcement Officer when it is written.

Awesome explanation Lawful Man, thank you- did you see my POST, i 'posted' just above, with my adventure in dealing with someone from Canada POST yesterday? You crystallized for me, just exactly what i wanted to put together to say to her next time i see her.....so she's simply acting as an UNINTERESTED, THIRD-PARTY, WITNESS, who is NOT offering me any LEGAL-ADVICE- hmm.....kinda like a NOTARY? ;)

I recall reading somewhere that a postal clerk is a poor man's notary.

This all begs the question then.....what is the difference between getting your document stamped by a NOTARY, and your document stamped by a POSTAL CLERK?

Thank you Lawful Man. That cleared up a lot of questions for me. Chip Douglas i think the difference is that the notary can be recognised in the legal world, a judge can see it, a postal clerk is not a member of the club, so it does not have to be recognised by the legals.

Lee Edgely, you are welcome. A postal clerk is an agent of the imaginary 'Crown' as Canada Post Corporation is a crown corporation.

I think I might have posted on a thread in this group that a cancelled stamp is like a poor man's notary. I read somewhere that when you stamp the reverse side of a document before you file it in the court record, if the judge is on the take, he can't just turn the paper over and say he doesn't see anything. The stamp seals the document. Putting on the reverse side makes it one document, whereas a single page is somehow technically two documents, like a box... just my interpretation, anyway.

Bump.

Oh. This is going to be a good read. :D

Thanks for bumping Leigh. I was in France last week and on a road trip from Nantes to Brest in a rental car I may have triggered a flash from a road side speed camera for a speeding offence. I may receive a Bill of Exchange from the French authorities and if so I am ready for it.

:-)