Jul 16, 2013 3:37 AM

It is now :)

It was crafted For Dean Clifford and that case. Keep that in mind, readers.

We'll try hard :D

If you look at MINE, it's a lot more generic.

so we can submit possible alterations or alternate versions specific to a particular need? [for your consideration of review]

I saw no NoM on the files page looking for one, I have that one so up it went. Scott, do you know LB Bork or his book The Red Amendment?

I was looking for the NoM to post/link to so he could have a GANDER at it!

hey corby, nice to see you get in the group. but what does that have to do with the thread?

https://www.facebook.com/notes/scott-duncan/notice-of-mistake-get-these-to-me-if-im-arrested/513483128718164

Yes as Scott Duncan always says. UNDERSTAND the WORDS that is used in that NOTICE OF MISTAKE.

Scott designed that to be generic because he knew that not everyone would be able to design their own notice so therefor he gave a dumbed down version for people to begin their quest....well thats my assumption.

I used it and fully understood it, and it worked overwhelmingly. Same with the help that he gave with VOIDing. Scott is most certainly one of the no bullshitters out in the cyber world.

UNDERSTAND the terms he used, when you feel you got the picture you can use it for your own purposes. You WILL BE TESTED!!!

Is it ok to share this doc outside tfl?

This document can already be found in public. Scott said because of that he isnt giving legal advice.

So i doubt Scott Duncan will care.

thanks Derek. It's my first time seeing that doc i'm very impressed.

again UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING.

look up EVERY WORD!!!!!

If you fuck it up, it will be that much harder to recover next time you use that. It is best to nail it the first time.

For this bit: "As the SURETY BOND (BIRTH CERTIFICATE) has been deposited into the COURT [In the custody of Justice Wailan Low, ONTARIO SUPERIOR COURT OF JUSTICE: Court File Number CV-11-430464], WHAT EVIDENCE does the COURT have that I, as a MAN who is not lawfully entitled to the BENEFITS of a BIRTH CERTIFICATE [PPSACA13078], have any SURETY in this matter?"

Does it mean that a copy of the BC has been put in the court file? And the last line, would this mean that one shouldn't be receiving benefits or is it rather saying, the flesh and blood, as opposed to the NAME, is not entitled?

CLEARLY this is Scott Duncan, personal copy as his PPSA filing number is on there.

i think your right kevin

Yeh I thought as much it has his name on it too lol. And which bit did you mean mo chara? that it differentiates between the flesh and the name (I phrased the question badly :P)

i think you have to put the bc with it and not to be claiming benifits?

I need to make a "Notice of error and notice of amendement of terms. I signed an illegal contract which took away my rights and was designed to to deceive me.

inbox me

you will have to be more specific then that

you 'tender for law' beginners have your homework cut out (and presented here) for you. it requires much deprogramming & relearning how to think and apply value.

Kevin in the notice Scott is referring to a copy of the BC he gave to the court for dispositioning (transferring of property). Once you give the BC to the court it is then in the custody of the court and they now possess it. They can then do what they want with the person. If you don't possess something you don't control it.

With regards to benefits that's a tricky one. The maxim, "He who receives the benefit must accept the burden" always stands.

However, Scott has shown us that whenever new charges are filed a brand new person is created. The prosecuting party then attempt to attach surety to you for the new charges and person. So I'm not sure what bearing receiving benefits would have on any new claims filed...

The Kevin Flanagan on your driving license isn't the Kevin Flanagan on the passport. The Kevin Flanagan on your social services card isn't the Kevin Flanagan on the Garda charge sheet... ;)

Thanks a lot for that thoughtful reply, it helped ;)

They not teach ya this in college? :p

Yes, right after they taught MONETARY THEORY. :D

so scott, did you have to depose the BC into court?

EVERY TIME I file an affidavit, they get one.

Is depose the correct word? Am I right in saying dispositioning?

That JOHN SCOTT DUNCAN guy... He's like Agent Smith . :D Copies of him are ALL OVER the matrix :D

thanks for the clarification

fucking guy needs to be eradicated :)

He dresses nicely, has an excellent vocabulary, and wears shades. I think he's just fine.

Is this where "Can't get blood from a stone." came from? :D

I remember when we first touched on this topic I asked if the court has custody of the person then is it not possible to apply for any state benefits until you get it back.

It was only at a later date that we learned a new person is created every time...

And a few more dots get connected... :D

It was an obvious oversight when you consider the accounting side of things :P

I'm not sure what your point is Beverly Girl-Brain Braaksma, I donate blood regularly & it's not difficult at all :P

Blood from a STONE... not stoner.

when you say 'copies', are those your copies [notarized?] of the copy you acquired from the department of records, or do you keep requesting more (at a cost) from the dept.?

let's see how you run this big company notarized copies of legal documents and wait a minute I've got Jeff working for me and he's a notary public so hey Jeff makes a notarized copies of that copy that I have multiple copies of the notarized copy

hey I'm just a fucking notary what do I know

all you need to know is I need copies of that document made

a notary notarizes a signature, not just a copy of a document, that would simply be just a photocopy. that's why i asked SCOTT! (for clarification) so i can duplicate that action.

they guarantee that YOU are the legal entity that you saidf you are via STATE ID and such normally

duly noted

ok corby, i get that, atleast what you said makes sense, but the whole point is not declaring YOU (by an ID) are that legal person, the NoM document is to keep those sepperate aswell as the asking questions part. prevent joinder from occuring and surety by making them explain 'the nature and cause' which they cant... um Mr David were trying to decieve you, are you willing to go along with our little sherade...?

Well hell you can say any thing you want!

Its all good

tell them to fff off too

on their own system

I am not SURE I understand them

nonsurety

Once you take over they scramble. Their tiny heads explode

HJR 192 gave your parents the NUMBER to feed you and then you wanted a SSN so you could "get a job".

at age 18 you are PRE sumed to KNOW the laws

that's why they try to hold us accountable for our actions

ahem...*alleged stoner Scott Duncan :P

Coward! :P

Fucking OWN IT!

I don't smoke...but I love cookies...not sure if that qualifies :P

i pick them good don't i. coby was one of my suggested invites to the group. still waiting on Timéthy C?mmins to make an appearance.

you know, they didnt tell me i didnt need that blasted # because IF I HAD... but ofcourse today it puts a roof over my head... cant help to justify the feeling that i would still have been much better off...

"As I have no knowledge of who “You” and or “DEAN CLIFFORD” and/or SUCH OTHER IDENTIFICATION THIS COURT HAS ADDRESSED ME AS,..." How can we claim, without committing FRAUD, that we have NO KNOWLEDGE of such identification, when we use it, put it in court files, send copies of it, address it in our correspondence, speak about it etc?

"As the SURETY BOND (BIRTH CERTIFICATE..." We know it is a bond because I recall Scott mentioning that a BOND has TWO SIGNATURES. Question: How do we know it is a SURETY BOND? What are the identifiers that indicate that that it is not merely just a bond? What PROOF is there that the BC is a surety bond?

If I missed a thread that has my answer, please forgive me. Still catching up.

You have the right to THE surety of the PERSON......it is writen everywere....

because Scott Duncan said so

@pete, i ought to print that and pout it on a stick out in the front yard. then it will be here too, as a public notice.

it go nice with the no dog pooping sign!

Or just stamp it in red on your forehead :-D

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certified_copy

What certifies a primary document to be genuine?

easy, certified true copy and write new original, if its a true copy whos going to rebut?

So, if I tore the original, the tear is the significant factor that proves it the genuine primary document? There is nothing to copy but a torn document, which still may have legal standing?

except i have the last original copy, not certified.

BC is simply pur" evidence" and NEVER PROOF!!

its all a charade

My BC proves that the government of Newfoundland and Labrador holds the legal title(property) in the legal( registered) name and all property, debts, liabilities, obligations, and undertakings registered in that name. It is a security that provides evidence that the human being, ME, in possession of the BC holds the equitable interest in the legal name. And, if there are any debts , liabilities , obligations, or undertakings registered in the legal name, then you are to contact the holder of the legal title in that name, which, I understand, is the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador.

Leigh OftheHouseof Collins, It would seem that if they can just reprint those pages, and you have a new copy without the judges signature, write "new original" on it void it and/or rip it in half and photocopy it and YOU certify it. Send it back certified to be entered into the court file with your buck o' five for insurance. if this is wrong forgive me.

The justice's signature is not on it. Just the court officer's stamp.

I can put it in an affidavit that I destroyed it but I am not sure that is to my benefit.

NOTICE OF MISTAKE - GET THESE TO ME IF I'M ARRESTED March 22, 2013 at 12:29am

NOTICE OF MISTAKE

TAKE NOTICE THAT: In the matter of SURETY for the LEGAL NAME, I believe that there has been a MISTAKE, as the SOLE BENEFICIARY OF A PUBLIC DOCUMENT has been INCORRECTLY IDENTIFIED as an "accused" and/or a "suspect". FORGIVE ME: If I, AND/OR PERSONS AND/OR FRIENDS OF THE COURT AND/OR SUCH OTHER PARTIES ACTING IN MY INTERESTS, have led A COURT and/or STATUTORY BODY and/or A GOVERNMENT SERVICE and/or AGENTS and/or OFFICERS of such bodies, to believe, by responding to “You”, and/or “JOHN SCOTT DUNCAN”, and/or SUCH OTHER IDENTIFICATION, such bodies HAVE ADDRESSED ME AS, that I am the PARTY WITH SURETY in this matter, then that would be a MISTAKE, and please forgive me. If I, AND/OR PERSONS AND/OR FRIENDS OF THE COURT AND/OR SUCH OTHER PARTIES ACTING IN MY INTERESTS, have led A COURT and/or STATUTORY BODY and/or A GOVERNMENT SERVICE and/or AGENTS and/or OFFICERS of such bodies, to believe, by responding to “You”, and/or “JOHN SCOTT DUNCAN”, and/or SUCH OTHER IDENTIFICATION, such bodies HAVE ADDRESSED ME AS, that I am, in ANY CAPACITY, a Pro Se litigant and/or a LEGAL PERSON in this matter, then that would be a MISTAKE, as I DO NOT CONSENT and WAIVE THE BENEFIT to such titles (Waiver of the CHANGE OF NAMES ACT OF ONTARIO). Please forgive me. THEREFORE: As I have no knowledge of who “You” and or “JOHN SCOTT DUNCAN” and/or SUCH OTHER IDENTIFICATION ANY COURT and/or STATUTORY BODY and/or GOVERNMENT SERVICE and/or AGENTS and/or OFFICERS of such bodies [HEREAFTER "YOU"], HAS ADDRESSED ME AS, I RESPECTFULLY ASK; by WHAT AUTHORITY ARE "YOU" ADDRESSING me as such? As the SURETY BOND (BIRTH CERTIFICATE) has been deposited into the COURT [In the custody of Justice Wailan Low, ONTARIO SUPERIOR COURT OF JUSTICE: Court File Number CV-11-430464], WHAT EVIDENCE does the COURT have that I, as a MAN who is not lawfully entitled to the BENEFITS of a BIRTH CERTIFICATE [PPSACA13078], have any SURETY in this matter? As GOVERNMENT is the SOLE SIGNATORY PARTY on the SURETY BOND (BIRTH CERTIFICATE), with SOLE AND FULL SURETY as TRUSTEE for the LEGAL NAME, WHAT EVIDENCE do YOU have that I am a TRUSTEE for the LEGAL NAME. WHAT EVIDENCE do YOU have that I am a TRUSTEE and have ANY SURETY with respect to ANY NAME? WHAT EVIDENCE do YOU have, that I am an OFFICER, an AGENT, a TRUSTEE and/or an EMPLOYEE of the CROWN? WHAT EVIDENCE do "YOU" have of any WARRANT OF AGENCY for the principal? WHAT EVIDENCE do "YOU" have that there has been any meeting of the minds, any PROPER NOTICE given, any considerable CONSIDERATION offered, or that I have ANY INTENT to CONTRACT in this matter?

As such, I am returning your OFFER, DECLINED, for immediate DISCHARGE and CLOSURE.

[ AUTHORISED BY: ] [ AQUILAE Trust Seal]

Derek Moran ..what jurisdiction exactly did you claim in the ONTARIO SUPERIOR COURT OF JUSTICE for yourself, btw?

Scott Duncan SUI JURIS