Jul 14, 2013 7:27 PM

NEVER FEAR VOICES!

These are STRANGERS, looking for somebody to RESPOND

Say NOTHING. They are inviting contract.

Agree with Scott Duncan, if it is important they will send a letter. They are fishing.

If you mistakenly answer the phone to them or any other, never admit to being the name they are asking for. I always ask who they are and as soon as I find out I tell them they do not have my consent to use the minutes on my phone which I hold and pay for and they are not to call back under any circumstances. I never hear from any of them again. after that. all the while not acknowledging the name nor giving my name. possession is 9/10th of the law and if I am answering the phone I have the right to claim it as my property and determine who can benefit from its use. without having to identify myself.

Or...

Do it in english...but QUEBECOIS ENGLISH! :D

YOU: Hellos? CRA: Yes, we left lots of messages for you... YOU: Massage? Yoo meen like ` appy ending? OK's! CRA: Are you trying to be smart with me? YOU: Oh yes's! I beez very smarts alls dee time! Dat is far better dan the stoopidity! I am likings smart! CRA: Sir, I... ok you know what? Fuck you. *click* YOU: :(

I definitly can do that :-D

I will record that and share it....

I wonder how my server will recird the writing part tho...? :-\

Pete Daoust I used to get automated messages all the time to. I sent them a letter asking them to stop harassing me over the phone whether voice mail or actual person on the line. Said that if they continued which I wished they did it would cost them $1000.00 per call paid forthwith in CAD funds certified check. Calls ended. :(

They are not automated message.....real people call....anyway I will anser the next call and post it here

TELL them to send what ever they are saying to you in writing...and signed and if they won't do that tell em to fck off.:)

Don't crank me Chad Brodgesell, I will try to be as CIVIL as possible with them, In Frenglish :D

Hahaa :)

OR you could speak to them in jibberish that only you understand AND frustrate the hell out of them. I have asked people for there SIN number and credit card number (not CRA mind you) and date of birth. This usually sends them into a bit of a tither. Then when I refuse to go any further with the conversation I apologize to them whole heartedly and they have no idea what to do after that.

I'm really not a fan of cutting and pasting shit, but I'm too lazy to summarize tonight... How to deal with Revenue Canada (currently Canada Revenue Agency)

When you de-tax yourself, you can expect that at some point CRA will contact you and demand that you file a tax return.

Please remember everything that you have learned so far. They are administering a completely illegal (unconstitutional) piece of legislation. The only REAL weapon they have is fear, and they use it very well. I know, I was trained in all their tactics.

Never allow them to intimidate you.

You must, however, remember that they (they includes CRA, the government, the International Banking Cartel, the Courts and the Police) have everything in place to punish you if you are not prepared.

The purpose of the Courts, who are paid from the Consolidated Revenue Fund (into which your taxes go) of either the provincial or the federal governments, have but one objective—to carry out the agenda of the New World Order through the government. Admittedly, they may well be unwitting participants in this agenda, but they are participants nonetheless.

I am certain that most cops think they are actually serving the people. They are not however, they are enslaving the people and serving the agenda of the New World Order dictatorship (unelected world government).

Their objective, for some time now, has not been to administer justice. Remember, the best description of the current justice system is to call it the “Just Us” system.

However, you can very easily deal with CRA - easily, but it requires attention to detail.

Always be polite, respectful, and accommodating. Never tell them that you do not intend to file a tax return or pay taxes. This simply serves to antagonize them and makes you look bad if they ever do take you to Court. However, if you prepare properly, they will never take you to court, and even if they do they will lose.

This statement is made “tongue in cheek” as it were. You must remember that the judges are simply other government agents placed in positions of judgment by the government itself, to judge the governments’ laws. The bias is obvious, but it is a bias that you must keep in mid if you are going to tackle the system.

The first thing you do is tell them that because of all the horror stories that you have heard about people committing suicide because of the treatment they received from CRA, the alleged violation of citizens rights by CRA, and other reasons, you should do the following:

1. Ask them to provide you with Identification. This is very reasonable and you should not meet with any resistance. Each person, if there is more than one, should do this.

2. Ask them which signature is their signature (there will be more than one. There will be an authorizing signature as well).

3. Next, you should ask who signed as “authorizing signature” or whatever the term is below the other signature(s).

4. Ask who that person is.

5. Ask if you could see the authorization that gives that person authority to sign their ID card. They will not be able to do this. But you must insist and tell them that when they get it they can return and you will be happy to accommodate them and assist in any way you are legally obliged to.

The Minister and/or Deputy Minister must authorize every authority that is delegated. The Minister or Deputy Minister are the only ones authorized by the income tax Act to do anything. This authority can be delegated pursuant to section 220 of the Act but there must be evidence of that delegation — in writing.

If the ID card is signed by the Minister or Deputy Minister, then this part of the Act has been complied with. However, have you been satisfied that the signature is valid and have you satisfied yourself that the Minister and/or Deputy Minister have sworn an oath of office?

6. If they do not have these documents, i.e. oath of office from the Minister and/or Deputy Minister, then you can demand to see it because it is your right, in order to protect yourself. You can demand that it be produced in writing.

You can carry this as far as your imagination will allow you. You do not have to take any of these steps if you do not feel comfortable. You must proceed as you feel comfortable in doing.

7. Next, you can tell them that you have been recently informed that the federal income Tax Act is unconstitutional and may not even be an Act of Parliament which satisfies the mandatory rules of the Constitution Act, 1867, for the introduction and passing of Acts of Parliament.

Therefore, you must demand that they provide you with a copy of the statute and it must be the official Act, not a private publishers’ version, since such a book could not be used in a court of law (being copyrighted and such).

If you wish, you could ask them if you are being unreasonable and see what the response is. Their response can be used later if necessary.

If their response is that you are not being unreasonable, then send them away to get the Act for you. They will never be able to produce it because it does not exist, at least not in a manner that can be produced for you to look at.

If, however, they respond that you are being unreasonable, then ask them if someone came along and told them that there was a law that required them to do something and they believed that there was no such law, would they not demand that the official law be produced so that they could determine for themselves that there was a legal requirement to do as they were being asked to do?

It is your absolute right to see the law and the official law not a private publishers’ version which is the only thing available in Canada today. The only Queen’s Printer version (which is still a fraud) available is the 1985 version which has had hundreds of amendments (maybe thousands, depending on when you read this book) since that printing. The law in Canada demands that the law be fixed and certain and a 1985 version with thousands of amendments contained throughout numerous Bills passed by Parliament over a period of years, is not fixed and certain.

They cannot produce a consolidated official version, certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments (as required by the Publication of Statutes Act) of the current income tax Act as amended. Therefore, by demanding it, as is your right, you will be asking them to do what they cannot do.

8. If the CRA agents survive the challenges to this point (of course they canât because the Act does not exist), then you can continue by having them explain to you how the Act applies to you, a free man. I provided you with the definition of free earlier in this book and you may want to review this in order to challenge them with this next step.

Suffice it to say, that they will have trouble and will ultimately simply demand your compliance with their demands. It is totally up to you what you do at this point. But let me continue.

9. You could also engage them with demands to have their specific demands in writing and do nothing more than what they ask you to do. As this process moves ahead, if you are imaginative, you will find other ways to delay them and eventually, they may go away.

Remember, if the agent is spending a lot of time with you and getting nothing in return, he/she will have to answer to his superiors for this lack of return on their invested time. As long as you do not give them anything that will allow them to take you to court, you will simply be wasting their time and they will eventually go away.

The list could go on, but you get the idea.

Now that I think of it. That is how I turn men down too.

Whenever I'm contacted by these clowns on the phone (I NEVER call them & never tell them any name), I just tell them that the person they are looking for is not available and business can only be conducted in writing, so if they wish to contact the person in question, ONLY do so in writing, then hang up.

If they DO contact me in writing, I send them my fee schedule, instructing them that I only deal in writing and, if they want me to engage in business with them, then here are my terms...

(Then offer ridiculous terms that no sane person would accept...after all I'm not an accountant OR a tax lawyer, so how can I possibly do any work they are contacting me about?) :D

I have that part ready ! :D

No calls today :-(

:D this threads exciting. I want to know what happens next.

Will gladly share ;-)

Careful Pete you are making a public declaration requesting they call you, this could be interpreted as an invitation to contract being initiated by you.

at least you listed the terms of the contract. LOL "call me please so I can SHARE our conversations..."

OK SIR... :D

PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT:

EVERYONE that calls me will be recorded, Voice and Writing, and I will DEFINITLY use everything you say against YOU.

Thanks and Good Luck Pierre Daoust. Master of PIERRE DAOUST

Is that better Andrew Langevin ?

very much. When you allow your excitement to take hold and post without a rational review of what you are saying in reality, you can make mistakes. I just try to point out where you should be more attentive and cautious. We are walking through a mine field daily and through distraction from these tenets we risk stepping on one. There is enough ignorance in the world seeking to do us harm we need not make it easier for them. peace brother

Brilliantly said Andrew

Nothing :(

call them and tell them you do not have the capability of returning calls.

I guess they've decided to not call me anymore....

It's ok Pete Daoust, you are peaceful, powerful & honourable...the naughty kids wont bully the strong kids, so they will probably leave you alone or play nicely with you now...

Oh yeah, and you've found love & the night at the end of the funnel...that always helps :D

:-D

SPOILER ALERT:

They don't call no more......since the EXACT day I posted this thread, none a call has been received .....

Cus you jus fckin scare bejezzizs outta dem Pete Daoust

Bejezzizs ?.... :-D

Bejesus

After being in front of a computer screen 16 hours aday for a week the words just jumble together. :)

Well what I'm going through right now I really can't describe better than a (metamorphosis)

Steve McCall

Gail awakened this zombie-thread...

well it is tax time right :D

I dunno :/

"What taxes, where?"

HAHAHA

You'll find all you need to know Beverly Berta Braakschmack when you read bill C-1..oh wait

What Bill C-1? Where?

Exactly

I thought it was "time to clean up the dog poop in the backyard" time...

:D

:/ we did that already

Kent Barrett is half of an hour late in his maritimes shit...

Dean C Conclusion: "I dunno"

During the time Dean got to speak, he had much to say and only spoke of self-evident truths and quoted aspects of the true rule of law and historical references and maximums of law. Something of note, whilst there he quoted were: Genesis chapter 1 vs 6. Deuteronomy chapter 19 vs 1. Magna Carta 1215AD section 39.

Well SHIT...,,Did he sing Mary had a little lamb, recite the Quran, hum the Pledge of Allegiance, and sing O' CANADA too?

Steeve Contributing Beneficiary, This question is about phone calls and your advice, while looking clearly useful. is all about signature checking in a one on one situation. I am putting my declaration letter together hopefully to be sent out Monday and they are calling me, so do I answer the phone at this point, and what should I say if I do?

Hi, I only conduct business in writing, thank you....click :D

What are you declaring?

sovereignty

Oh...how are you doing that?

By disassociating myself from the corporation formed in my name at birth.

Are you using the Notice of Mistake?

Notice of Mistake?

Lee. Have you read much of this site yet?

I am very new to this and learning at warp speed, so please, do tell...

READ! That is the only thing to tell.

So scroll scroll scroll.

I am reading constantly...

Keep reading.

Go into the files and read through that, if you aren't wanting to scroll.........yet.

Ya, thanks for the help guys. I AM reading, but it is stated that thios is a forum where we are permitted to ask questions so I did, and "just read" is not an answer od\r any help at all...

Yes it is!

As Scott would say, we will need a common point of reference and if you haven't read, that will be difficult

OK, I see a notice of mistake for dean. Is that what you mean?

Dean Clifford is still holding his documents and sitting in jail right now

That is the one. Except you aren't Dean. And Dean didn't write that.

No, I'm not Dean, and I have no intention of following in his footsteps

Nor do we...Dean REFUSED to deflect Surety

Excellent. The notice of mistake still stands (alone like the cheese-Scott)

You don't have a corporation either. You have a person.

I'm just about to send in my documents, so why would I be addressing the court at this time?

You need to understand the notice of mistake. To do that you must read.

You need to understand what a corp is and what a person is and what gov't is. To do that you must read.

Government is a TRUST!

I do know these things and understand the fact I must differentiate

Government of Canada is a corp registered in DC, and my birth certificate is a corporate "person". I understand that

Who is the President? VP? etc....shareholders?

I am a natural born man, correct?

I don't know...were you?

No, you are a semi-evolved chimp that made it that far :P

Yes! LOL

is a Cesaerian considered natural?

Or by cesaerian?

Maybe a quarter evolved chimp :D

Well, you are now being complete assholes about it, but I see one valid point I need to look up, and that is the difference between a corporation and a trust.... thanks, I think.

You will thank us AFTER you don't send in that stuff!

Complete?

Many more valid points to follow if you can leave your ego behind, IMO!

Insults are unnecessary... and I did not react with ego, I merely made an observation and still said "thanks".

I am here to learn and learn quickly. I will not engage in a flame war in reaction. Thank you all...

If you find that insulting, wait until it gets actually insulting.

I've been called pretty much everything in here!

Rightfully so!

OK, so this is odd to me....A Trust is an arrangement whereby two or more individuals (or a trust corporation) declare in a deed that they hold certain cash, land or other assets upon trust for charitable purposes. The purposes of the organisation must be exclusively charitable.

Canada is a charitable corporate entity at it's root?

I'm liking the uninvited caller information form! LOL

Lee Carver Fairley, no insult was intended, honestly I too am new and have learned there is a certain humour one must be up for to enjoy this group. I am speaking from my experience about the ego thing.

Tommy Atherton, you weren't the one insulting, but I suspect the learning curve just to deal in here is gonna be as steep as the one I'm already on! LOL! I'm gonna own my life, and I'll take everything you guys got in order to get there, so bring it on!! :P

I can share this: "YOU" is plural, a very important legal mindfuck addressed here, in my texting I used "you", and one could presume one knows who "you" is and yet be quite incorrect! always clarify who "you" is!

You=Surety

Birth certificate= Surety bond, no?

I just ordered a hard copy of Black's Law dictionary, and I know I have a LOT of words to wrangle around...

I know I did not sign it. Scott has said it is a bill of lading. Most of our "misunderstanding" comes from thinking we know what something means, when we don't. Scott has said to look up EVERY word on the notice of mistake ESPECIALLY if you think you know what it means.

Ya, I have been reading and watching a lot of stuff that makes that word play very apparent. I believe Jordan Maxwell was the one I saw that referred to the birth certificate as a bill of lading, but it is the document that declares your duty to the corporation as I understand it, so why would you say not to send it in? I have spoken to a freeman I know and he says that is very important to do and it's why Dean is in jail.

As "sole authorized administrator I insist that all communications with you be in writing. Good-bye."

Mika?

Yes.

Well..he doesn't have a PERSON now!

Is that not the point?

As I understand it, holding on to that corporate PERSON is what landed Dean in jail.

Ok, stop please Lee Carver Fairley, and READ Notice of Mistake, and come back here when you'll get it

I have read it, and I am getting two messages about surrendering the documents. It says in the notice that: "As the SURETY BOND (BIRTH CERTIFICATE) has been deposited into the COURT", which suggests (and I have seen it on video) that that particular document should be retained until a court hearing comes up. So I send in the others in advance then?

Lee Carver Fairley, I would not recommend using the Notice of Mistake if you don't know why it even exists. I bet you haven't even looked at the legal definitions of all the words there. Have you?

There is no quick fix here, Lee, sorry. All we can do is point you to the material, and helping with the doubts. We can't explain this stuff in a few post. For many it's taken months to get the notice. I am sure many others BELIEVE they know the notice, but I am sure they don't.

So, that being said, the notice works for things you did not contracted for. Like... government stuff. It does not work if you are trying to dishonour a contract you signed. Got that?

You deposit the surety bond on the record. You don't file anything else. Just that. THEN, you send via registered mail the notice of mistake to the judge, the prosecutor, the clerk, with a notarized copy of the surety bond attached. No signatures. Just NOTICE.

If that doesn't cut it, a SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR, as a friend of the court, in special appearance, has to do administration work and "appear", and stand on the notice. Do not let them proceed until ALL questions of the notice have been answered BEFORE proceeding. Stand your ground.

If you still don't know WHY you can do all this, then DON'T DO IT. Good luck!

I understand there is no quick fix, and I am in this for life. I will look up every single word in that notice for sure. Thank you Mackximus Minimus for the clarification on that one point, and all of you for your time. I will do much more reading before coming back to thread, and stand my ground I will.

There is very valuable information here, Lee, but this is not the average group. If you leave emotions aside, you will find many answers here. Hit the books!

This is no time to be emotional, and I do not intimidate easily. I have stood against two multi-national corporations threatening me with lawyers and beat them both with their own fine print. I got this!

Lee, much of what we say is part of our own "private joke" from previous "bashings", if you will. Don't take that all seriously. Look up "idiot" in Black's. :D

Keep reading through here, if you need help with something RIGHT NOW, just ask. Don't do anything until you fully understand what you are doing, ok?

I have no intention of going off half cocked. I am gathering information voraciously and I will ask again. My skin is plenty thick from some seriously vicious discussion boards over the years, so don't worry about me! Thanks for the acknowledgement though, Beverly! :)

Read some of this stuff: https://www.facebook.com/groups/tenderforlaw/permalink/535384496497487/

You'll get a better feel of this group :D

That is the first thing I saw that got me to join here. Put it in a Word document and put it in a special file. I'll read it thoroughly tonight, AND look at the definitions! ;)

Good idea to scroll through this group and find the articles Scott has written and/or some "gold nuggets" are in our files... Thus you can catch up quicker...

uh oh...

FREE-DUMB QUACKERY: *DELETED*

you better delete that one

Sorry Scott, I am actively on 2 threads and just realized I posted on the wrong one.

No.

Allow me to explain. What you did was leave a shit-stain on my forum. Now I am going to debunk your idiotic belief in scam artists. I will need a few minutes to type out the ridicule and contempt you deserve. Please stand by...

Hey! Archbishop IS in Black's: archbishop. Eccles. law. A church officer who has authority over all ecclesiastical matters within a province.

ecclesiastical authorities. The church's hierarchy, answerable to the Crown... :/

Sounds like a "nice, trustworthy" lawyer :/

Do what you will, Man, it was an honest mistake and my mind won't change on the subject, but I will not repeat the mistake even if you decide to be merciful....

Lee “shhhhhh!

ALL Snake-oil Salesmen do the same as this guy: Give him some money, and he will give you the cure for anything, and save you from the life endangering stuff that "Big Pharma"-controlled conventional medicine will do to you. He doesn't have a disclaimer at the bottom of his website saying that he doesn't give medical advice, but in his (free downloadable) book it says Quote:"I am an inventor, not a doctor....I am not trying to do what doctors do." -WHAT? Oh, and his understanding of "cure": Quote:"When I say "cured" I’m referring to the fact that they got up, smiled, put their clothes on and went back to work. They have not relapsed, as far as we can tell." And later it says: Quote: ...We never had a failure as far as the malaria was concerned. We cannot guarantee that fact, as everyone was not blood tested; but to the best of our knowledge there was no failures to kill the malaria parasite. To me I seems that his documentation of effect is really not good enough.

He is totally fixated on the idea that almost all diseases are infectious diseases, and that killing the microorganism will bring the cure. His words are: Quote: That includes 95% of all blood diseases, all cancers, and all other so called disorders of mankind I think this line of thinking is dangereous, as it may delay treatment or even render a cure impossible. His understanding of microbiology is also somewhat bizarre: Quote: ....are pleomorphic in that they can switch back and forth from one kind of microorganism to another Also on his website he explains his idea on how to treat cancer: Take increasing doses of the remedy until nausea ensues. He explains what is happening this way: Quote: You will be able to know if it is going to help you if you can continue to pass the nausea point and increase the drops. What is happening is that when nausea hits, some of the cancer has been destroyed and it is now a poison that the body can clear out. People who believe that all cancers are infectious diseases, and killing the causing microorganism will make the cancer go away are wrong - and that’s a scientific fact.

If it's ACTUAL Medicine, and has a 100% Success rate, then James Randi has a MILLION DOLLARS waiting for him!

Oh that's right, JREF approached him, and the coward ran.

Oh FFS...what did I miss?

nothing, really...

I see we have 3 real life friends in common, Beverly Berta Braakschmack! One of whom is one of my best buddies for over 20 years!

Hey! Your right! 2 of which have been best's for over 30!...

fuck, I'm "dating myself" :/

Dating oneself is the best way to remain in a relationship.

Boat Bunny is always an option, Beverly! All is not lost!

I also recognize that lake, since I live 4 blocks from it, but up the road about 20 minutes...

OMG, I just realized who you are, Beverly! LOL!!! I was Kirk's roommate in Vancouver before I moved to the Okanagan!

Yep, I saw your rings... :D

You two should start a thread on this... :-P

I have taken enough shit for today, thank you! LOL!

So... returning to the original post:

Do the CRA folks keep calling still?

HAHAHA !!!...Nope :-D

Scott's question just reminded me of the end of Silence of the lambs...'Well Clarisse, have the lambs stopped screaming?'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09TAIcCqFpg

JUST PUT THE GOD DAMN LOTION IN THE BASKET, STUART!

CRA called me for about 2 weeks and left messages for me to call them back. I finally answered one day and when they asked for the person I said I was the Sole Authorized Administrator for the person there was silence. They then asked my name and I just repeated what I had just told them and that any correspondence was to be done through letter. The agent asked again who I was to which I said 'the man not the person'. They then asked to speak to a human being and I then said ' human beings don't pay taxes'. Finally in frustration the agent told me to have a good day and hung up. That was over a month ago and still no letter...what gives...lol

Paul Houseofgough... Cra is hot on my tail as well. I have not filled since 2007 and have sent letters along me to file so these missing years... Not sure what to do

Ask to see the clubhouse rule that requires 'you' to file...then ask them to direct 'you' to the definition of 'income' in their acts...if you are supposedly going to file a income tax return, and sign a declaration as to the facts contained therein, under various penalties (including fines and jail), then the very least 'you' require is very specific definitions of what you are declaring as fact ;-)

haven`t heard from them in 5 yrs they send no letters demanding money nothing

Greetings and good day, to whom it may concern. I have a question that need answering. I understand Clifton Lee Sing just borrowed 3 billion from HSBC on my behalf, could you please forward to me 1of those 3 billions and provide me with the name of the Surety for this loan. I understand Clifton is a private man and not an elected official, and as signor for the finance minister who works for me, he should disclose the surety for this loan and forward me my money.

I just wanna do this the best way that will not end up with me in prison. Not doing this Dean's way

Have you read the info we gave you a month ago, Jason Lerato ? :-\

Yes... And I continue to read the files in this group. They are great thanks

The CRA is calling YOU. Substitute "Warriors", for "Jason".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh9nziiMXgA

CRA was pretty good at responding to my inquiries. Until i asked them about what their stance was on the Cestui Que Vie Act. They don't respond to me anymore.

I don't want to file at all. They sent 7 letters to me asking the PERSON to file

They also were not too bad on my inquiries, until I asked if PERSONS domiciled in QUEBEC have an OBLIGATION on producing a tax return, or if it was on a VOLUNTARY basis

They don't EVEN want to talk to me since that question was posed :(

Actually- i don't know on second thought if they stopped responding to me regarding the Cestui Que Vie Act question, or when i told them i would be happy to 'pay' them some taxes but that i just needed the correct info from them on the proper way to fill-out their bill-payment-remittance they sent to me to do it with.

Tell them, I don't want to ADMINISTRATE an INCOME TAX return for the person JASON LERATO, unless you show me the law that says I HAVE NO CHOICE.

I need a certified signed copy of that law :P

Fucking nice

What Pete said works. Or also, Jason Lerato, embrace the slave that has been given to you to use.

I think your position is VERY easy to handle, if no other details are involved.

Send a registered mail NOTICE from the SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR for JASON LERATO to CRA, saying that he will be glad to file for the person, but with the condition that you will not buy back any more public debt for JASON LERATO, but only administrate the debt via the surety. Show them proof of who is surety.

Instruct them to send a bill to the person, and remittance and/or instructions on how to properly fill out the bill of exchange, for proper discharge, and settlement of the account.

If you do this, there is no controversy, and you will likely take care of the problem, instead of running away from it and/or having to fight in tax court.

Good luck!

Nice. Based on me with my grey area accountant figured if the PERSON files they will claim the PERSON owes about $200,000.

So again the PERSON has not filed and at this point they know nothing since those two years where I made tons of money I was self employed

WOW!!!....you could help your country BIG TIME by administrating a 200k public debt via the SURETY... :D

I am jealous ! :(

Don't be scared of the numbers, Jason Lerato. It's ALL surety, and accounting. If you qualify your role, if you establish who is surety, if you know how to settle the accounting, you should not fear anything. It MUST be VERY simple.

It's all made to scare, but YOU are NOT responsible for the BILL! You are just responsible for ADMINISTRATING that debt. And you have the INSTRUMENT that gives CONSIDERATION to settle those BILLS.

It's really not complicated, Jason. Come on, "Canada" needs you!

Well I'm getting head knowledge just lack the ability on how to properly put it to paper so I don't fuck it up. Any one wanna assist me in doing up a draft and I can edit it and learn as we go? Again at this point they don't know much and are awaiting the PERSON to file. They have already assumed the last year I filed in 2006 that the person owes $59,000. That does not include the $200,000 that they would discover if the PERSON filed

Just take one bill/step at the time, Jason. Just do what they are asking right now. If they want something later, then you deal with that later.

Here is an idea for a NOTICE. It's VERY simple, but to the point. Change it for your needs, correct, spelling, grammar, etc.

<<NOTICE

This NOTICE is done in GOOD FAITH, DIGNITY, HONESTY, INTEGRITY and with the TRUTH. I am the SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR for JASON LERATO, with registration date of XX XX XXXX, certificate # XXXXXXXXXXX, and social security # XXX-XX-XXXX.

I am a MAN. I am NOT JASON LERATO. My name it's a PRIVATE matter, and none of anyone's business. I am NOT SURETY for JASON LERATO. PROOF of who is SURETY for JASON LERATO, the ONLY and SOLE SURETY and/or signatory party being PROVINCE THAT ISSUED BC HERE, is provided in Exhibit A, a BIRTH CERTIFICATE and/or SURETY BOND/PUBLIC RECORD # XXXXXXX, with REGISTRATION DATE of XX XX XXXX.

I, as a MAN, am not lawfully entitled to the BENEFITS of a BIRTH CERTIFICATE. I am not a SLAVE, and/or OFFICER, and/or a government AGENT, and/or a TRUSTEE, and/or a Government EMPLOYEE of the CROWN, and/or CRA, and/or INSERT VERMIN HERE, and/or INSERT VERMIN HERE.

YOU are given NOTICE that as the SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR for JASON LERATO, I will NOT buy back ANY public debts that come under the legal name JASON LERATO, and/or account XXX-XX-XXXX. I will only ADMINISTRATE these public debts, and send them back to its beneficiary, so they can be presented to THE BANK OF CANADA, and/or to which ever pertinent party, for complete DISCHARGE and settlement of the account.

A BILL, for proper accounting practices, it is been requested from YOU, IF there are any alleged debt/s owed under the legal name JASON LERATO, and/or under account number XXX-XX-XXXX. Please, send a BILL to administrate the debt immediately. Also, REMITTANCE, and/or instructions on how to properly fill out the BILL and/or bill of exchange and/or negotiable instrument and/or “payment voucher”, are been requested from YOU to properly discharge any/all public debts owed.

If you send me a BILL, and REMITTANCE, and/or instructions on HOW to properly fill out the INSTRUMENT with no delays, I will administrate the debt FOR FREE, this first time only. Please be advised that if YOU, and/or any of your agents, acts either in BAD FAITH, and/or create unnecessary delays, and/or create any CONTROVERSY that takes more of MY time and ENERGY, then ALL other administration done for the legal name JASON LERATO is subject to FEES. YOU have been NOTICED.

Any questions regarding this NOTICE, please contact, ONLY IN WRITING, the administration offices for JASON LERATO, with registration date of XX XX XXXX, certificate # XXXXXXXXXXX, and social security # XXX-XX-XXXX, at: INSERT ADDRESS HERE >>

Awesome. Thank you. How do I know my account number and certificate number

Account number is your SIN #, and your certificate # is in the birth certificate #.

I should send that to them asap. And this is in honor correct where there should be no legal attacks where they will seek jail or shit like that... I have no plans on sharing a fucking cell with dean

Do you understand what is happening here, Jason? :/

Great... Thanks

Yes I think so... I'm establishing my given authority and exposing their games... Correct?

HONOR-

Banking: Acceptance of a check or a credit card transaction by a bank for payment, depending on the amount of funds or credit available in relation to the payment amount.

International trade: (1) Acceptance of a bill of exchange by signing it on its presentment, and/or (2) its payment on or before its due date.

I will use a bad analogy. But here it goes.

You are a MAN. You are NOT JASON LERATO. You may only act, in LEGAL/COMMERCE, as the SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR for JASON LERATO. Man does not exist it that realm, only if his mind permits so.

JASON LERATO it's like a forced business that was given to the MAN to use, and add value to that business, but you don't own it. Also, it comes with an administration job that we did not asked for.

The MAN is NOT responsible for JASON LERATO, the business. *The OWNER of JASON LERATO is the responsible party for the name/account JASON LERATO. No one told you about this stuff. The business was handed to you. You didn't ask for it. It's not your fault.

As in any business, there is ADMINISTRATION that needs to be done for the business to run. But since no one told us about the business, and about the job, we are fucking up in the administration. Some mafia guys with guns come to take over the administration of the business, for the OWNER, because we are failing to "do the job".

The "owner" of JASON LERATO doesn't really want for the man to know this stuff. He is REALLY hoping that the man does not realize what it's happening, and if the man finds out, the owner is really hoping the job is then done for free, and then some. You know, "everyone" is scared of "the boss".

Now YOU KNOW about the business, and about the job. The administration of the business consists in doing the accounting for the business, by administrating all debts under the name JASON LERATO. The administrator will finish all bills of exchange sent to the business, and administrate those according to the rules. (Bills of Exchange Act)

In exchange for that job, the ADMINISTRATOR MUST charge for his TIME and ENERGY. It's a CRIME against you to do this stuff against your consent, will, and/or for free. Unless you CONSENT to do it VOLUNTARILY for free. Which they are REALLY hoping. They send thugs with guns to intimidate you, and stuff.

So, administrate, learn how to communicate with them, and fuck them.

I hope this helps, Jason.

It's a VERY bad analogy, because I am using a seemingly innocent example of a "business", but what is really happening is an EVIL slavery system, that kills and murders. But maybe the bad analogy helps to better get the concept.

We were tricked into BELIEVING "BEING" that person, instead of "HAVING" that person....

This all helps a lot. Keep it coming. I'm a sponge now

I really think substituting "business" for "person" helps to separate from the "person" myths.

You are NOT a business/person, you HAVE a business/person! :P

:D

Lets call "IT" what IT really IS Bill of Lading-

A DOCUMENT SIGNED by a CARRIER (a transporter of goods) or the CARRIERS REPRESENTATIVE and ISSUED to a CONSIGNOR (the shipper of goods) that EVIDENCES the RECEIPT of GOODS for SHIPMENT to a specified designation and PERSON.

Carriers using all modes of transportation issue bills of lading when they undertake the transportation of cargo. A bill of lading is, in addition to a receipt for the delivery of goods, a CONTRACT for their carriage, and a DOCUMENT OF TITLE to them. Its terms describe the freight for IDENTIFICATION purposes; state the NAME of the consignor and the provisions of the contract for shipment; and direct the cargo to be delivered to the ORDER or assigns of a particular PERSON, the CONSIGNEE, at a DESIGNATED LOCATION.

There are two basic types of bills of lading. A STRAIGHT BILL OF LADING is one in which the goods are consigned to a designated party. An ORDER BILL is one in which the goods are consigned to the ORDER of a NAMED party. This distinction is important in determining whether a bill of lading is negotiable (capable of transferring title to the goods covered under it by its delivery or endorsement). If its terms provide that the freight is to be delivered to the bearer (or possessor) of the bill, to the ORDER of a NAMED party, or, as recognized in overseas trade, to a NAMED PERSON or assigns, a bill, as a DOCUMENT OF TITLE , is NEGOTIABLE. In contrast, a straight bill is NOT negotiable.

I wish there was a CRAYOLA app :-)

And when you tell ANY Government Agent: I AM THE SOLE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATOR FOR PIERRE DAOUST, they just freeze and don't know what to say :/

Especially if they know that you won't change your mind on it :D

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNy2A4lDgHc

There's something profound about this, that I want ALL of you to pay attention to...

...but I don't recall what it is. :/

:D

ChiefRock Sino General 1 min · Told CRA, if they want me to volunteer to file tax wont happen but i will invoice you $1000.00 for taking my precious time to do the tax filings for the person owned by Ontario Government. The guys says, well no, we cant pay you for that. I said, well why not, you dont expect me to work for free do you ? after all the SIN number is govt property and not mine, he agrees its not mine but still thinks i should do it because he doesnt get paid to do his. I said,well that sucks on your part cause you got suckered into working for free and/or paying an account xxxx amount to do it for you. So i asked him for his accounts payable dept lol...he didnt know really what to say to me. I wish i recorded it, was classic. He, than goes well your account, i correct him and say, you mean the Govt account, why you do you keep referring me as the owner? He says yes your right.

HIHIHI :D IT WAS A "FUCK YOU " :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjtnRmy0H-U

Ha Ha...these are classic Pierre !

Responding with "Hellos?" works too, but Pete's keeping it on the QT.

*sigh*

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/on-the-qt.html

Just so you don't have to Pete. :P

ah, now i get hellos... duh

So... why is this thread still going if the CRA has stopped calling?

It seems to me we've sort of solved this one.

Yes.

some great discussions, especially that story by maximus