Jun 29, 2013 12:12 AM

Maybe his GOD is SCIENCE....

Like every other "god" argument, that touches REALITY, you can drop all the GOD sentences and it remains just as true. He's just shitting of the gold. Just wipe the shit off.

...SHE blinded me with SCIENCE

Signed, Thomas Dolby

Thomas Dolby is a colleague and one of the best Computer Scientists on the fucking planet. This man knows how to live :D

http://youtu.be/SdvIpen8iAs

Here's a question for you Scott: Does it make you feel any different when/if someone instead of GOD, uses the phrase- THE CREATOR? :/

He is one with the cowbell too.

http://youtu.be/6r5pb_pFcik

He gets paid for this one though. :D

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Scott Duncan is like the Undercover Boss

Awesome post Derek Moran. Excellent. Straight to the fucking source Why hasn't he whipped out his 30 rounds of fuck off gun & covered these muppets with TRUTH FROM THE BARREL OF A GUN !! How do they like that shit?? How's them apples for ye kunts?? 30 rounds & you still complain.... Well have a FUCKIN FACE FULL KUNTS......unload every bullet in the magazine right in his face... His price of freedom cost what again? ?

30 rounds...... how fuckin cheap is this?? Surely everyone could chip in 30 rounds for freedumb....

"...politicians are EMPLOYEES of ours..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBsXSXmkR1U

THE CREATOR? Who's that then? A PERSON?

So basically its like that one MAXIM that says- "Power derived, can never be any greater, than which it was derived FROM"

"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed..."

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/declaration_transcript.html

Oh yeah Thomas Dolby, I remember him, twas a great song & yes it does remind me of you Derek Moran, for some real weird strange reason....hmmmmm...poindexter ;-D

What of the term Universal Intelligence? To me there can't be a "person" who does anything. All organisms are a bunch of different pieces put together to function syncronistically (sp?). What exactly made that happen? Each cell KNOWS what to do. And what exactly animates each cell. Maybe all things are explicable. I don't know all the explanations (very few really). I also don't know that all can be explained.

...or how about IMAGINARY SKY DADDY! :D

I came across an old post from Lawful Man where he said basically- "Your OATH, is your LAW," which you mentioned you wish you had said Scott

Bloody oath....

There is NO ONE OUT THERE! Duuuuh. Who ever thinks that hasn't really thought about it. Possibly other life forces, but no one is "watching" you but you. THAT is the part that trips me out. HOW can I be conscious of me?

Computer Science. That's how. You're a sophisticated meatware data-collection mechanism that has evolved advanced management of the data it gathers.

Self-Awareness is what allows animals with no fur, horns, armour, scales, antlers, etc., to protect us, to survive in a world that is trying to kill them. Your self-awareness, allows you to exist and alter nature around you.

At the moment I can work with A.I.s that are about as smart and self-aware as a cockroach. It's just a PHYSICAL restriction. More processing power would allow me to do more, but I don't have enough time in my life to do what I want with AI, but I can say that self-aware machines are a certainty. It's just a matter of time.

BIOLOGICAL intelligence may just be a fleeting phase of intelligence in the universe.

Computer Science is the answer to those questions, Cara Small Atherton.

...because it's the answer to EVERYTHING.

CARLH...

WHAT directed this process?

Why would any organism even care to BE self aware?

Nothing. ON and OFF isn't a "directive" it's a STATE.

It wouldn't care to be self-aware. If it lives in that form, it wouldn't NEED to.

you do... or you'd just be soft pink food for something that eats other things. ;)

http://www.computerscienceforeveryone.com/

Are we not just an organism? Why are we self aware and other organisms SEEM to not be? Can a rock have awareness? Can awareness not be carried to each individual cell. How about each elemental atom? Not sure if that is the correct term, but I think the question can be understood.

How does computer science explain biological thought processes?

If you take a quad-core processor from 2012 an an 8086 from 1982. can both do the same tasks? Run XP on an 8086? No?

They're both processors, made of the same raw materials...

...organisms are like that. The same, but NOT the same.

Yes but WE made processors.

Could you consider the awareness that we are speaking of BEING the creator?

Yes we did, by directing raw materials into a fixed STATE. The STATE of amino acids at any given time, determine if an advanced protein will form, or if it will just make something that smells bad.

The fact that you think on and off are something that needs to be MADE, is a bit of a stumbling block for you. :P

So something like: "I Derek, MAKE OATH AND SAY, that i DECLARE, to abide by the Anglo-Saxon-Jute rule-of-law, based upon the principle of 'The Golden Rule' of "Do not unto others, as you would not have them do unto you," as my form-of-LAW to adhere to..."

?

It simply IS on or off, but why either or?

You can declare it? Yes. Can you substantiate it... no.

Because that's it's current state based on all that's around it... but it's not "living". It's just physics.

Derek Moran, for it to be law some one would have to agree. Then it is only law between the two of you.

Reality is not "consensus". You can try to "repeal the law of gravity", but reality doesn't care. It CAN'T care. It just is.

SUBSTANTIATED: adj. Proven. The Dictionary of Canadian Law.

PROOF = SIGNATURE. So my OATH listed above (rough-form), needs to be SIGNED?

Yes.

Yes. That is unwritten law and simply is. But for Derek to substantiate his claim at all some one would have to agree AND it can't go against natural law. He can't just claim the world turns counterclockwise and because I agree it is law. I get that.

...and YOU'RE STILL NOT IN THE FUCKING CLUB!

Unless you are willing to hire an army to "enforce" on others (which I am NOT willing to do) there is only a claim.

You don't need an Oath to live honourably.

You also don't need ANYONE's permission.

So we're just a series of chemical reactions that create electrical impulses that carry out a process much like that of the processes going on on a motherboard

If that was so how, then, can one still be aware when no experience or thought is being processed?

There are always background functions going on that you are not aware of. Do you know how your skin is regulatin your body temperature RIGHT NOW?

SUBSTANTIATE: To establish the existence or truth of (a fact, etc.) especially by competent evidence; to verify. Black's 9th

That was my next question. Is all that is going on "behind" the scenes and conscious processing THE awareness?

So many questions.......so little time.

What is LOVE?

Love is when the happiness and well-being of another is essential to your own happiness and well-being.

I thought everyone knew that. :/

Why care if you are just an organism chemically aware of your self?

So my OATH listed above (rough-form), needs to be SIGNED...notarized...and made PUBLIC RECORD?

You're not. That's just all your current knowledge is capable of conceptualizing. It has no basis in reality.

What happens when you take a concept and turn it into reality. I have a design on my head to build a deck. I draw out a plan figure out how much material I need. Get the material and than build the deck. I just took a concept and made it a reality

Creation ?

So as soon as we have God turned into reality, we will have the duty to find its CREATOR :-D

We just heard that it has no basis in reality

No, it just means that MAN is "the creator". "Natural Law" says I am a carnivore. It also says that you would be a nice piece of food.

Empathy, and Altruism prevents that from being YOUR law.

A Law has no more power than its creator.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their CREATOR with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/declaration_transcript.html

I can "Declare" anything. I can DECLARE that you are a stupid 20 year-old girl, but it has no legal basis.

..OR lawful basis :P

A CHARTER is what forms a country.

The AMERICAN Charter (The US Constitution) is the ONLY constitution that separates church and state.

The only LEGAL church is the Catholic Church.

As opposed to our Charter and Bill of Rights which BOTH say: "...the Canadian Nation is founded upon principles that acknowledge the supremacy of God..." ?

The LEGAL god :D

EVERY Charter in the WORLD protects and is enjoined with IMAGINARY FRIENDS.

What about Love?

What about it? Want a map of where that process exists in the brain? We have that you know.

There's even a part that makes you fabricate "gods". I can show you that part too.

Weve mapped the human genome. NONE of seem to get what that means.

Science has learned more in the past decade than it has in 2000 years. How much do you know about?

You are absolutely right. Science has made leaps and bounds. We have mapped the human genome, we can take a stem cell program it and grow an organ for someone without any concern of rejection. Now the issue becomes, who makes the decision as to when I can have my organ replaced, isn't someone acting like "god" there, yet we let these stupid politicians and drug companies get away with it.

Are you going to lie to all of us and say that you're NOT going to say "Go ahead, play God", when you need an organ replaced 30 years from now? REALLY?

I only lie when I'm horizontal

But to answer you question, OF COURSE NOT,

Did you see the movie REPO MEN? That's what I'm afraid of

I always lie when I see no other options :-(

3 years ago, you had never heard of a 3d printer, now you can get one for under $2000.

Trust me when I say, you will be able to "print" genome "patches" with off-the-shelf equipment. You just need the knowledge/skill. We can ALMOST do that NOW.

All you need to do is keep up. That's what I'm doing now. You have to CATCH up... which is NOT easy, and is getting harder every day.

...it's easier to think "jesus did it". That's the problem, because as I said, we have learned more in the past 10 years than we have in the past 2000 years, and every day you think "Jesus did it", is a day 300 new things are discovered, and we move ever farther apart in the whole "Knowledge Gap".

Eventually I'll need to be "employed" by the commercial science industry, because the rest of you would be too stupid to provide any value.

...but I truly tried to wake people up in time. It's too late. Tara Duncan lives her life on an intellectual stair-master that never stops...and that's just so she can keep up. She has access to me 24/7.

...what chance do any of you have?

It won't be "repo men". It will be a transfer of ownership. You will be "owned" by somebody like me.

Someone like me who studies REALITY and not imaginary sky-daddies TODAY, will decide if you live or die, tomorrow.

"...a court of admiralty NEVER interferes where there is a TITLE in controversy..." ;)

http://www.amazon.ca/The-Practice-Jurisdiction-Court-Admiralty/dp/0820115452

Derek Moran, could you give us an example ? :)

servant v. MASTER. . .trustee v. BENEFICIARY. . .debtor v. CREDITOR - its ALL, about, ACCOUNTING

oh..and SURETY too ;)

OO OO! I have one of those! (TITLE in Controversy) :D

sucking-on-a-justices cock v. NOT-sucking-on-a-justices cock

Derek Moran

When you REALLY think about it, its a MISNOMER to call them the DEFENDANT and PLAINTIFF...more like, the DEBTOR and CREDITOR 3:36pm Blake Gardner

It's both...the debtor creditor titles are what is technically being fought over in the court, so the temporary titles are given plaintiff/attacker and defendant...

During the fight...like a boxing fight...their fighting for a title (winner & loser)

one thing i learned in Torts&Contracts class:

"The Operation of Law is UNENFORCEABLE under a BANKRUPTCY" ;)

Question: Plaintiff can't hardly be the debtor ?

..what if he cant prove his case?

Prove what ?...that he don't owe ?, and why would he file to prove that ?

A friend-of-the-family is a Federal Court Judge. He said the- "well regarded-text that Judges/Justices use regarding Admiralty Law," is one by George Strathy...there was some question as to what exactly the title of the book was called?

I have heard that humans are increasing their technological abilities exponentially. Of course I have NOTHING solid to back that up, but I do find it an intriguing statement. When I see what has happened around me I do have to admit the evidence does support that statement.

Google "Moore's Law"...

Now you have something to back it up :P

Turing's Law law determines if a mechanism is self-aware.

Cole's Law is thinly sliced cabbage.

Ya. Thanks for MORE homework! No really. Thanks.

Cole's law is the easiest one :D

I have them BOTH written down.

Excellent value ladies & gents. Thank you... :-)

Self awre. Sounds just like terminator the movie.

Skycomm.....??

Just googled & came up with this: http://www.cmla.org/papers/TheInPersonamAdmiraltyJurisdictionoftheFederalCourtJanuary2007.pdf

Derek Moran: PROOF = SIGNATURE. So my OATH listed above (rough-form), needs to be SIGNED? June 29 at 12:47pm — Like Scott Duncan Yes.