Jun 28, 2013 1:25 AM

Maritime Liens are for VESSELS, not property.

is the birth certificate property are a vessel?

PROPERTY. YOU are a "vessel".

thank you Scott I getting tired I don't want to pull questions out of my ass so goodnight

I only get annoyed at made-up shit. Free-dumb movement shit, and shit I've already answered.

the man is the vessel (ship), the paperwork is a device and therefore property which is 'presumed' to identify the vessel? or would that be cargo on the vessel?

I would understand it as the cargo is the energy, or future energy of you. Otherwise known as the sponsor for the credit, therein lies the VALUE.

I am trying to figure out which lean process to use since I live in the United States

David do you know the lien process we use in the United States

well, first you get them in default for the proof in commerce that YOU have more of a right to somthing than whomever it is that has it, and then you publish the lein by notary and apostile, and have the sherrif serve them with a collection of said property, if that property is 'dollars', then those are transfereed between accounts, so it is much easier to try to sell the lien at a loss to a bank or insurance company by using the old tried and true method of entrapment by greed.

you offer someone who gets 10% a deal that net's them a years pay and they will greedily do their best to accomodate your offer.

i have a lein against a party for 1680 ounces of gold, you can have 10% of the 25% i will give your company in discount (additionally out of my own pocket) if you get your company to buy the lein from me.

ten weeks is 1680 hours. i spent ten weeks in misery because of what that cop caused to happen that HE agreed to pay me for at the rate of an ounce of gold per hour from the start to the conclusion. he agreed to the contract offer, i have it on video.

[i am making this up, it is just a scenario for a point of refference]

when you cant get him to produce the gold, you have a way to lein everything he owns of value in collection. sort of like an inverted bankruptcy, instead of that party claiming bankruptcy, you cause it to happen by lawfully taking physical posession of everything you can. if it is only on paper, you try trading that to a bank or other institution that trades paper notes.

the ultimate goal is to have it go into somewhare that you have access to being able to convert it form a note into physical silver/gold, because then you can claim it got lost at sea.

play Sgt Shultz. I know NOTHING. saying that is better than saying: I don't know.

notice IS the lien process.

I just had an epiphany from what you're saying David if I file a post in the newspaper and nobody object to it that becomes Primaface evidence that I use on the lien am I correct.

Yes. This makes it a PERFECTED lien. NOTICE was given, and defaulted. There is a HISTORIC record of the event (like a birth certificate).

I'm actually crying right now

thank you Scott. thank you to everyone else that also helped me on this page even pete. For the first time in my life I actually feel free.

That just means you can't tell the difference between what's true, and what feels good. :P

You ain't seen nothin' yet. ;)

what's true is fact opinion come from feeling which is not the truth

I've never had over 2,000 dollars in my hand of my own money ever in my life Scott.

I was a Millionaire. Best/worst time of my life.

the Cargo is the commercial energy transferred from private to the public.

the Cargo is the VALUE transferred from private to the public. [Fixed That For You]

Gotcha :D

Scott why does my brain turn on and off I get things right and then I get things completely wrong

It's the same mechanism that causes Christians to ignore reality.

You are fighting a lifetime of programming that you now KNOW conflicts with reality. Shutting off is the only option at the moment. You don't have enough knowledge to keep it in the "on" state.

You get things completely wrong when you don`t really understand it fully.

The Girl-Brain can't help much either :P

I'm actually very happy for you John Who-are You Frisbey. You've made a big breakthrough. How Liberating is this group for the feeling that comes from TRUTH ??

I do need to stay in character, yes?

Beverly do you know if it has to be a national newspaper or a statewide newspaper.

I'm pulling this straight out of my ass John, but I'm LIENING towards either/either. I don't know a fucking thing about liens but I'm all primed & pumped to add another string to my bow of knowledge. Here goes. In a nutshell coukd anyine please explain how to lien using every step in the vorrevt process please ?? Yep...I got my ass cap on.....again......

Sieg. ...CORRECT process

David Johansen, I know you have explained it but I do not know the correct process required to get to the sum certain owing because it's wanting for better & further particulats..in m.......empty vessel.

Adam Thomas first you posted in a newspaper your claim to right of it then no one can pick up Jack because you're the only Adam Thomas there is you file a default this perfecting the notice of lien

and this is where my brain shut off and I can't get it started

well that is not completely accurate all my brain function is now perfect lean process so that I could post proper public notice

Frisbey, wait until thetenderforlaw.com is up. You might be missing something.

Girl brain is correct john from my understanding the lien can go terribly wrong if not done correct better to be 100% first dude don't rush in

value, n. (14c) 1. The significance, desirability, or utility of something. “Ok this would be PERFECTED "commercial energy".

ok, the title to your auto says on the last line "subject to a security interest" so you go look that up (security interest), and then you look up how to perfect a security interest (simply make it known). the KEEP OFF THE GRASS sign IS a notice which perfects a security interest, ALSO the TAG or plate you attach to the auto IS the public notice of the security interest.

so the local to you and the local court you might be interacting with LOCAL newspaper is where you place your NOTICE. the whole point of the notice is to A, be publicly displayed, and B, you hope nobody REBUTS IT!

Perfection of a security interest occurs when it is made known publicly, therefore simply attaching the registration tag to an automobile does just that. likewise newspaper publication is perfection of a security interest.

I do not think that there's many people line up to be John Wade Frisbey

That's great information. Thanks David Johansen & John & y'all. Much appreciated. Thank you.

yep, great info.

it was also suggested to me to wait for the tender for law dot com to open up before I did this process

Shit fucking hot blokes & Ladies. AWESOMNESS....AGAIN......FAPFAPFAPFAPFAPFAP....My balls are hurting...so is my peanut brain.....Fist o fury......

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Lienholder definition in Alberta includes the lienee and lienor, much like the term: Trustee, applies to administrator, beneficiary and trustee in Trust Law.

Also in Alberta, To lien property is a different agent, than a ppsa. With A ppsa you can go to any registries location (privatized)( ALL CAPS NAME). For Property one must go to Land Titles.

A corporation can file a vendor's lien, in my test case it is a builder's lien, I was dealing with a media/construction entity. Here is the Bulders Lien Act procedures manual:

http://www.servicealberta.gov.ab.ca/pdf/ltmanual/BUL-1.pdf for educational purposes only.

There are some important points to note such as... A 45 day, deadline to file, term after the work was complete, 90 days if dealing with an oilfield company.

So the importance of the notification process is crucial to a successful application of this whole strategy.

The terms on the invoice were for payment upon receipt, enabling me to immediate recourse and collection of debt. End game is to utilize Bills of Exchange created in the process, into money of account.

Which is direct deposit credits...

this one has way too much value

the domain "thetenderforlaw" is requesting a log in. would we of the group be able to figure out what that would be or will we be provided it upon request?

It's only restricted while it's being constructed.

This is really awesome.

Can i have a pronoun referent for "this'? I ask because I do love awesome things.

of course it's the TFL and you Scott Duncan :)

Oh...

...Ok I already have that awesomeness. :D

doesn't it always sound better when others say it :P

A strong come back Gail Blackman ? :D

lots of catching up to do :)

Not really Gail Blackman, we been busy spreading bullshit while you were in vacation.....no worries... :D

David

which one?

Yes....jason F....this is Gold...great stuff here folks....awe sum ness.....

this is the perfected Lien process thread that's why we keep it short

Smashed !!

I have to give credit to Scott Duncan for it . He is the one that taught it to me.