Jun 21, 2013 4:43 AM

I'm in. I lose my land in September. This year. Haven't paid property tax in 3 years. Nobody will give information or help unless we give them all our money.

Yea i understand. Even if payment may have been tendered they still levy the land.

They violated my "substantive right to set-off debt". I A4V'd the tax but they didn't honor it.

Join the club.

Maybe someone with knowledge will pipe in.

If only someone with an infinite amount of knowledge and who is always right can bestow the needed wisdom to address this topic.

COUGH*Scott Duncan*COUGH

Bildo, Ray can certainly help you with this!

Absolutely, Chris. But I saw this thread by Derek. He's got the same problem. Excellent topic.

Bildo > Writ of Replevin

Derek and Bildo- have you guys ever actually SEEN the law that says you guys have to pay property-taxes?

no, i required them to provide proof of it but they failed. Only after 2 years of fighting and severe damages the "judge" issued a judgment for the levy to be removed.

in bc the municiple act states for them that they can levy property for unpaid taxes the roll generates.

I'm not in BC. I'm US. No I haven't seen the law. I did proof-of-claim and defaulted the county treasurer because she was the one sending me the "bill", or tax statement. I've heard of writ of replevin but that's all. Just the term.

Here's an email i got from someone at the Revenue Services division with the City of Toronto regarding this:

Hi Derek: The answer is in the information originally provided: As per the Assessment Act R.S.O., 1990 (S.3), "all real property in Ontario is liable to assessment and taxation."

The way I see this property tax thing is they seems to beleive that my house/land is part of an inventory that they assume or presume is sitting in THEIR wharehouse....

How do we turn into tenants of our property? Lawyers superseding oaths maybe?

who knows. but id love to hear from scott on this topic.

its hidden in the purchase & sale agreement...

if you paid for the property with a promissory note then you didn't even own the promissory notes that you paid it with

we don't own anything

and all legal money is just a loan

loan you think your paycheck is a paycheck when its just a loan

Sigh.....

STAMP DUTY PAID=IMPRESS STAMP DUTY=FIVE AUSTRALIAN Cents.......you ALL with the exception of a few highly intelligent SOVEREIGNS IN THE T4LG just don't fuckin get it....you especially Derek Hill. ...

Derek Hill= NOT EVEN QUALIFIED TO BE ASKING AS HE IS MY B I T C H.......

you don't even own your own name

BoE the muthafuckas......FUUUCCCKKKKK......

Go back a few posts to where Derek Moran, CALLS ME OUT TO TALK & WALK YE THROUGH A BoE....

Queenie is now dishing out the blow jobs on MY THREAD KUNTS.....

Derek Hill= CRIMINAL

Derek Hill = DUMB KUNT...

Derek Hill = STUPID DUMB MUTHAFUCKA. ......

to say you own something is a belief

when i say to the court that the name JOHN WADE FRISBEY is not mine

that is because I don't own it

Yep....still don't excuse Derek Hill, for being DISHONORABLE TO HIS CHILD THUS MAKING HIM A CRIMINAL FATHER....NEFARIOUS....TREASONOUS....

Derek Hill, will in actual fact be declaring WAR ON HIMSELF 'TILL THE DAY HE DIES....... A L W A Y S....UNTIL HE WRAPS HIS PEANUT SIZED BRAIN AROUND A BoE.....& MONEY. ....

& LEGAL TEN (OR) DER....& CONTRACTS......&........

I'll always be here watching just for 'YOU' DEREK HILL. ..A.K.A...WEAK GUTTED LIMP WRISTED FAGGOT....

There is an act that allows you to legally discharge your property tax. That's all I am allowed to say. Yes it works just fine.

And why is that's all you are allowed to say :D

Yeh Cory. Talk is cheap here homeboy....spill yer guts mate...cough up...now...please......kunt. :-)

Talk it now walk the walk Cory Black.

Payment in lieu of taxes act

How about this: DON'T BUY REAL ESTATE.

Why not discharge it through your security? No need to succumb to a death pledge. Your choice.

Why do you think I'm not to fully disclose the answers concerning how to discharge any debt? There is good reason as to why.

Cory Black, you are an enigma. :D

Your profile picture is almost a forced contract compelling me not to take you seriously...and you never say anything but the most relevant, correct things...

You're not fooling anyone now. I see you. :P

..Cory Black has sworn an oath to the BAR Association, but, he has a conscience and is trying to help as much as he can without breaking his oath?

Hahahahaha. ...you're by yourself now Cory.... No BAR BASTARDS HERE ON THIS SHIP M A T E Y....

BAR= EXECUTE WITH EXTREME PREDJUDICE

If you have a conscience, you don't answer the BAR's call in the first place.

...and im not mocking Cory by saying that. Im commending him.

A wolf amongst the sheep heyyy...

My position on BAR members is the summed up in the final scene in BLOOD AND CHROME.

"Do you think that because you are more enlightened than the rest of your kind, that we hate you any less"?

Sooo then...what Value is Mr. Black going to Add then??

Setting out to harm strangers for a living, isn't really a good foundation on which to grow a concience, Derek Moran. :P

Oh woe be to ye oh ye lawyers for ye take away the key of knowledge. ...

Snarl...Grrrooowwwwlllll. ...snaaaarrrlll......

Fucking lawyers....rope please.

Whip please.

Scott- i was just speculating on what you really meant when you said to Cory: "Your profile picture is almost a forced contract compelling me not to take you seriously...and you never say anything but the most relevant, correct things...

You're not fooling anyone now. I see you."

Just say the word please Captain.....just say the word & I shall produce dog meat &/or shark bait

Expos’ Derek Moran.

Yes I know that, but we have already proven the "stupid" factor. You aren't QUALIFIED to "speculate". I'm not speaking yiddish here. I write the Queen's English, so you cannot be confused.

Your ass is not a library, so stop pulling your answers/speculation out of it.

Lawyer on board the Aquillae.

There was a lawyer serving Aquilae, once. His name was Steve Krupnik. A tale to be told on THETENDERFORLAW.COM at a later date. ;)

Oh really...what happened to Steve sputnik then ?? Sharks hordeouvres ?? Yep sieg fails for horses doovers ok :-9

Krupnik...does sound slightly on the yiddish side o things..

German Actually.

Ok. So what happened to him then. Where is he?

if not is to not buy real estate then what would be the alternative in having a home to live in?

You live in your ass anyway Derek Hill, so why change now kunt ??

This really better be worth it derek Hill. You have a child to rescue haven't ye??

Igloo...

Tent

Card board box

Shoe

Ask mother hubbard how she did it ok Derek the half a bee...

A ho ho ho & a he he he...Derek the half a bee... Name that song...no wait I just did that...ok name the group that sung it then ??

DEREK THE HALF A BEE...

Freedom isn't free.....it's a hefty fuuurrkn fee...

& if we can't chip in our BUCK-0-FIVE WHO WILL....

Buck o five

I cannot get that south park song from my mind...I LOVE IT....IT MAKES ME SOOOO HAPPY....No wait its the spliff I just annihilated that caused that...I think....meh..

:D

Let corporations buy properties, IN TRUST... :D

The same corporation that has a "PRIVILLEGE LEGAL" on the NAME....

Scott Duncan: Your profile picture is almost a forced contract compelling me not to take you seriously...and you never say anything but the most relevant, correct things...

You're not fooling anyone now. I see you.

Scott Duncan Yes I know that, but we have already proven the "stupid" factor. You aren't QUALIFIED to "speculate". I'm not speaking yiddish here. I write the Queen's English, so you cannot be confused.

Your ass is not a library, so stop pulling your answers/speculation out of it.

I coulda swore ive heard you ALSO say on here- "We dont do CRYPTIC on this page"...so who/what is Cory Black then?

Scott Duncan Yes I know that, but we have already proven the "stupid" factor.

OH...thats been PROVEN? PROOF = SIGNATURE

*Derek begins rounding-up his jury-pool* 1. Beverly 2. Blake 3. Gail 4. Pierre 5. Adam 6. Dean Kory (by video-feed) 7. Derek Hill 8. Ed 9. WeLove 10. Stuart 11. ChiefRock 12. David Johansen

alternates: God, and/or, Jesus

Ghost Lawyer ??

Ummm..im going to AMEND DEREK THE HALF A BEE HILL FROM THE LIST IF THATS OK WITH ALL ?? NO OBJECTIONS ? ANY? He's not qualified to even ASK A QUESTION.

Did ye call god as a juror Derek Moran?? I cant be in two places at once ye know....no wait I can because I'm GOD. Ok...let her rip mate..

We'll just put a head on a stick for Derek Hill. Ok ?

Meap puppet MUPPET

:-D

Nighty night y'all... Night john boy.. Night mary lou...

Derek, if you wish, I will swear out an affidavit declaring you are stupid. The burden of proof has been satisfied already, as you think wrong, and value the wrong things.

I can't be a Jury....sorry Derek Moran, I don't have that privillege :/

You need to be a Nice clean in line citizen to have that privillege....

" The burden of proof has been satisfied already, as you think wrong, and value the wrong things."

GOOD...then maybe i will FINALLY get an answer to that BELIEF (and i know how you feel about ALL belief) of yours, that i think wrong and value the wrong things, as a result of your affidavit.

..the Red Seal Notary at Adelaide and Yonge has a $10 deal on Sundays ;)

"Your Justice- please direct the witness, John Scott Duncan, to ANSWER the QUESTION; HOW, EXACTLY, DO, i think WRONG, and VALUE, the WRONG THINGS. . . .anymore EVASION tactics on his part, and i will request that the court hold-him-in-contempt until he answers THE QUESTION. Calling me stupid for ultimately not being able to read his mind, has left my FEELINGS hurt, and, i DEMAND remedy!" ;)

file a hurt feelings report.

This all sounds great in theory- but the defendant DOES get to choose his forum/jurisdiction... :/

Look at this entire forum and every bit of bullshit you invent that prevents you from grasping reality. The fact that you think wrong, and value the wrong things is self evident. You simply can't see it...because you THINK WRONG. (See how that works?)

Until you fix that, you aren't qualified to parse the data you are receiving.

If you DON'T think wrong, then you are just stupid. I have dumbed things down to the point where I feel stupider for writing it... I can't go down any further.

Oh well.....i guess im just NEVER gonna be able to figure out this stuff you're tryin' to explain to us *sigh*

Ive always got this though, to fall-back on: :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG1fKCsnPLk

"Can i just say one thing?...im sitting here reading admiralty-legend, Scott Duncan...and if Scott Duncan says im stupid, then i should probably just admit that i am stupid. And Scott, you are right...but the last time i checked- i dont SEEM to recall being taught this stuff in SCHOOL!"

Probably why you should pay closer attention NOW.

derek moran question of law books that you have do you own them? why do you think you own them?

"GUESS WHAT, Who-are You Frisbey...i got a FEVER...and the only PRESCRIPTION for it...is more PUBLIC-SCHOOL-EDUCATION- i GOTTA have more public-school-education, gimme more public-school-education BABIES- i need more public-school-EDUCATION!"

derek please answer my questiion.

your government right now could come into your home and take everything of yours who owns it?

i got a FEVER...and the only PRESCRIPTION for it...is more FREEZEBEE- i GOTTA have more FREEZEBEE, gimme more FUCKING FREEZEBEE BABIES- i need more FREEZEBEE!"

My DE JURE government, or, the DE FACTO government...?

the point is they can come take it because we don't own it

I dont own anything i bought with Bank of Canada-notes...but apparently, the Bank of Canada, considers me, to be one of the owners, of the Bank of Canada: "Ultimately, the Bank is owned by the people of Canada."

http://www.bankofcanada.ca/about/who-we-are/

..interesting paradox

that is the lie that you believe you own it

I just fed my cat dog food do you know why he ate it? it's because he doesn't know he's not a dog

its just food to Captain Jack only us humans think we have to feed dog food the dog and cat food to cats

I don't own ANYTHING my person have bought.....everything that is hooked to my person's name is not mine....

Our principal role, as defined in the Bank of Canada Act, is "to promote the economic and financial welfare of Canada."

INTERESTING....!!!

Government benefits distributed to impoverished persons to enable them to maintain a minimum standard of well-being.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/welfare

welfare of Canada = Government benefits distributed to impoverished persons to enable them to maintain a minimum standard of well-being.

I liened everything in my persons name. It's not mine, only under my control. Just like if I liened your person, not you, but your person, I would control ALL you think you own.

If the Queen don't own anything and nobody owns anything

why was ownership a completely new concept to the original people of the America continent?

because they knew they were just bowwers of everything that they had in possession

Derek, I think Scott is referring to the fact that you are trying to decipher these "laws" and their forms in the regard of something to do with you, PERSONALLY. You are attempting to gain VALUE from knowledge of them which clouds your thinking that this STAGE has nothing to do with you... Hence the "stupid"... NOTHING PERSONAL

The GIRL-BRAIN IS SMARTER THAN YOU DEREK!

...I'll let that sink in.

And I think Mr. Black is in "accounting"

who is Mr Black Beverly?

That is possible. :D

FUN FACT: The Corporate designation "LLP" or "Limited Liability Partnership" are only given to Law Firms and ACCOUNTANTS!. ;)

You should quit your JOB Derek....lol....

Yah, he seems more of a credit/debit guy than surety/proof of claim guy...

Who is Mr. Black ? :D

Is he Jesus's brother in LAW or something ?? :/

Go up... waaaay up... this thread...

oh..!!!...I'll stop right now to fuck around with Mr. Black, did you see this guy's biceps ? :/

"The GIRL-BRAIN IS SMARTER THAN YOU DEREK!

...I'll let that sink in."

I have talked to Beverly before. I hope she IS smarter than me. Because i TRUST that she will help me fill-in the missing pieces...and without calling me stupid- ta'boot!

Oh- and for the public record, i dont get offended when you call me stupid Scott...because then i just think about how much MORE stupid i'd be if you had never started this page

*Derek picks-up what he HAS learned and goes home* ;)

p.s. ..when's the next bbq on the boat?

Liar !!! :D....why is it, I am the ONLY one that can't lie in here ? :/

Seriously people, kill yourselves.

WHO IS MISTER BLACK? Do you even read the names of those you respond to?

I know that question was stupid I had something in my eye and couldn't read at the time I apologize

"""Derek Moran Here's an email i got from someone at the Revenue Services division with the City of Toronto regarding this:

Hi Derek:

The answer is in the information originally provided: As per the Assessment Act R.S.O., 1990 (S.3), "all real property in Ontario is liable to assessment and taxation.""""

Question, This is in an Act,,,,therefore only applicable to Government Agents would it be applicable BECAUSE the property was sold to an Agent at the time? Even though you may have corrected the status 'after'?

bugger, hit enter before finished

Or is it that the property was purchased with LEGAL TENDER and simple not claimed for ones use? Or am I way out to lunch?

SHT, LEGAL TENDER ----> The Tender for Law?

Scott Duncan do you own anything?

Yes. I own people. They have value, and they share it with me. In exchange they learn how not to be a slave.

I also own controlling shares in several corporations.

...but not much else.

Oh yes I read CAREFULY all names of everyone I'm responding to....

https://peri-pilt.tpsgc-pwgsc.gc.ca/peri-pilt/mod/frms/tfrpdemapp-ouwe-eng.pdf

Thing is... I don't want to apply for anything...

Beverly its not letting me download that thing could you send it to me in a chat message thank you

Well its an application for payment in lieu of taxes on federal property... its Provincial anyways. Google that where you are...

..THAT- and more importantly, you're using their 'statutory instruments' ala the Statutory Instruments Act (i dont know what the Provincial one is): http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/s-22/page-1.html#h-1

Kelleran Holman: where is your contract with the CITY? (that you apparently signed)?

Derek Moran: Kelleran- im doing this keeping in mind, that we do use the water..and they do pick-up our garbage-and-recycling.. this about enforcing the right to DISCHARGE debt, as opposed to PAYING them property-taxes with legal-tender from out of our pockets

WeLove JessicaDawn AndOthers: "where is your contract with the CITY? (that you apparently signed)?"

... Did you utilize the benefits that were offered?

Kelleran Holman: I hear ya but don't you pay for water from another corp? and sure garbage...have it on a break down list of what they assume your wanted services are? I know there are certain services I could leave with them...like umm I dunno "police" for starters...then decide how you'd like to settle

Kelleran Holman: like how does the value of my home, effect the guys picking up my garbage? I have no issue with paying the guy slugging my trash...but the value of my home should not effect that rate

Kelleran Holman: is there a "homestead clause" in Ontario? I have heard the term in the US i think

Derek Moran: email 311.. "Where is the law that says i have to pay property-taxes?"

Kelleran Holman: that would only come from a contract with the CITY that is claiming/collecting right? no "law" but a contract,,,somewhere

Kelleran Holman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFkULHuyl50

Kelleran Holman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrTXXUB0xak

Beverly Girl-Brain Braaksma: Did property tax laws originate back when people farmed and sold their goods?

Scott Duncan: Not as such. Landowners often paid the Thane to be anle to remain there, but it wasn't a Tax, like it is now.

Scott Duncan: Closer to "rent" then tax, from a legal perspective.

Derek Moran: There IS no property-tax statute. There is a statement with no application to it. - "All real property is liable for assessment and taxation in Ontario." Im sorry- who's liable again? "All, real, property..." *hint-hint* REAL in Spanish-latin = ROYAL in English.. - "All ROYAL property is liable for assessment and taxation in Ontario." Hmmm..i dont seem to recall any ROYALS chippin' in with the cost of the house to my dad... (Scott clicked LIKE)

The HOUSE is the PERSON’s property.

The PERSON is the Government property.

So the HOUSE is the government’s inventory.

The PERSON’s has to pay TAXES to the government for using that fucking house.

So let's send these tax bill to its owner....the GOVERNMENT....they surely mail it to "ME" by MISTAKE. like the nuke thing.....re-direct these to where it belongs

With a small explanation letter :D

Or, simply discharge this DEBT through the government's bank, the Bank of Canada :D

I just thought of something. Does the government have a lien on the legal person?

They OWN it...

How can you lien something you already own ?

mhmmm...and if we lien it, they still own it, but we have first priority?

If a corporation lien it, the corporation has the first PRIVILEGE...

of course....the corporation I am the director of

at least the SHAREHOLDER :D