So Scott, as it is my understanding that when we pay a debt with a debt (cheque, online payment) it creates more debt. As they now hold our cheques and do not return them, they borrow (however many times the amount) and hold and/or sell them as securities, correct? How then would accepting a remittance coupon (as a money order) not do the same thing, being a creation of "money"? Is this because the "paying account" is not our private "signature" anymore and thus doesn't get borrowed from, thus "discharge" debt? “Additionally this also is the idea of thinking right and valuing the right things?
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
*I meant "paying account" is not our private "account"
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Pete Daoust
WOW!!!!....you must have 3 pinballs machine in your head :/
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Yah, well if our signature creates money, then signing the back of a remittance should be the same. Would it not be treated as such? If the idea is not "getting out of paying your bills", its about "discharging debt", how is signing things not going to be pilfered as any other cheque would? I think I'm paying my rent with "money of exchange" from now on...
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Pete Daoust
My signature dosent creates money, my signature makes me SURETY, so I have to get my ass to work to honor that freaking signature..... MY TIME is needed for this SURETY thing.....
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Oh yes sir Pete, your signature is the ONLY thing that creates "money". That's why you are SURETY to pay back debt, since its mostly money as debt.
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Pete Daoust
This is complicated Beverly Girl-Brain Braaksma, it is like there is 6 subject in this. :D
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Pete Daoust
Woman can really do 6 things at the same time, you just prove it here....
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Pete Daoust
signature creates money : WHERE ? LOAN ?
signing the back of a remittance: WHICH ONE ?
If the idea is not "getting out of paying your bills: WHICH ONE ?. What that has already been paid, I agree....
discharging debt" : WHICH ONE ?
I think I'm paying my rent with "money of exchange" from now on: YES, even BITCOINS would be better. What EVIDENCES they could bring that you used THEIR fucking bank notes if you do this ?
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Blake?
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Pete Daoust
Oh no, not Blake please, he dosent even speaks English :D
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Pete Daoust
No, seriously, he seems to be extremly well educated, and he uses all these words....oouuffff.... :/
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
I guess, Pete, its understandable via the operating system... :D
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Pete Daoust
Me, I think that EVERYTHING we receive from any level of government via canada post is a PAYMENT NOTICE, and they are just noticing us that something has been paid, and we would be nice to pay it again....
If I sign NOTHING, I don't create NOTHING
And what I do, what currency I use and HOW I pay for my stuff, is not ANYONE's business... :D
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Pete Daoust
I haven't paid my Hydro for 1 year now.....I've sent them 2 letters regarding that matter....no answer and I still have the SERVICE that I paid for LONG time ago....I have built this Hydro thing through my BIRTH CERTIFICATE, and it uses MY water to get CREATED.....
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Pete Daoust
Hey, Beverly Girl-Brain Braaksma, I'm connecting some dots in my brain, and I know I have some that are connected, but maybe there still some to connect, I am on my way.... lol...
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Pete Daoust
The BC is the first thing that creates DEBT, and the only way to eliminate ALL debts, is to eliminate ALL Birth Certificate :D
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Pete Daoust
We start contracting debts at a few weeks old, we will NEVER get out of debts, unless we lien the PERSON and stop using their currency.
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Pete Daoust
Sorry to paint all your thread again :)
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Pete Daoust
I'll go to sleep and let Scott Duncan clean this mess.... good nite O:)
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Nite Pete! I'm tired too, just ran my dobies... er they run me...
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Howard Posehn · Aladdin Sane
When Scott talks about Surety and accounting being all that is to all of our problems, I now know he is right. There is a method, the Bills of Exchange Act as this clearly establishes. VOUCHER REGISTER: A voucher register is a combination invoice register and a creditor (or accounts payable) Ledger. All purchases regardless of their nature are entered in this record and the formalized process of vouchering the invoices for payment eliminates the need for individual creditor accounts. When used in its most comprehensive form, all expenditures are entered and distributed in this record. The voucher register initiates the flow of cost data, facilitates their analysis, and provides the most effective control over purchases and their payment.
VOUCHER SYSTEM: The system by means of which invoices and other evidences of liability are collected, audited, recorded, and settled. It involves the use of vouchers, vouchers checks, a voucher register, ETC., and is an important feature of any system of internal control. Fundamental Principles of Accounting writes that a voucher system is a method of operation which provides for an orderly handling of cash vouchers and liabilities to ordinary creditors in such a way as to make it unnecessary to keep ledger accounts with creditors.
It is apparent that the voucher system embraces more than a uniform procedure for handling purchases but also involves the incurrence and liquidation of all liabilities.
PURPOSE OF VOUCHER SYSTEM:
1)To provide economy in handling and recording purchases of goods or services.
2)To provide means for correct charges to accounts representing purchases of goods or services.
3)To secure specific receipts for specific invoices in order to:
A)Minimize fraud.
B)Avoid double payment of same bill.
4)Secure control over volume of disbursements.
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