Jun 09, 2013 6:36 PM

*crickets chirping*

not over here...my ears are ringing with the swooshing sound of sympathetic ns stimulation. this is excellent.

Tara did you major in English? concise and to the point an enjoy to read.

I am electrified ( always been ) and you are too.. :-)

I'm TOTALLY doin' her too. :D

3 people waiting in the hallway ganged-up on me last week while waiting for our paralegal-class to start when i told them the Criminal Code "does not apply to you, unless you acquiesce to it through your implied consent". . .."EVERYBODY KNOWS the Criminal Code applies to EVERYONE" they all said. . ."Really? Have you ever read section 2. of it where the definitions are for "every one-person-owner"...do you understand what 'include' means in legalese, you guys ARE in a paralegal course this MIGHT be important for you all to know in the long-run"..... they all just looked at me with this sense of resentment, almost for having pulled their heads out of the sand

And shame on you. You know what I meant when I said (I) and did not mean me as in just me.

and I cant say it the other way because others will cheat and say they also knew.

Well then you are focusing on the irrelevant/non-existent.

You are a semi-evolved chimp that made it this far, thanks to OTHER semi-evolved chimps who know/knew more than you.

...everything ELSE is shit you are making up.

It's like being well isolated, when you are, electricity will be your friend, if you are not, it will kill you.....I've been very close to ELECTRICITY since I'm 17 years old, this thing fascinates me, and it never lie....and I'm connecting so many thoughts when I use electricity as a model....just saying and sharing that's all

Justin Moule shared with me the email he got from someone-who-thinks-they're-in-charge-of-something, regarding the vaccination of his daughter. Then he showed me the reply he sent, this essay on all the stuff that is WRONG with vaccinations. I asked him- could i have that lady's email, i wanna ask her one simple question, ill keep it honourable, and ill copy it to you...this is what i wrote to her:

Hi Ms. Cameron - how are you?

When it comes to deciding to whether or not to give consent to having someone stick a needle in a child's arm filled with god-who-knows what, it always comes back to a simple question i have of my public-servant-trustees with a fiduciary duty to do whatever is in my best interests, simply put; what is the jurisdiction of law in Ontario?

..a long-way granted of saying- "BY WHAT AUTHORITY, and WHO the fuck are YOU?!"........no answer to that question yet

Your leaving and taking your knowledge with you and many have come to depend on you and your knowledge. :)

Oh, and I'm working on something that makes LOTS of electricity for FREE, and only for the THINKING process it obligate me to go through, it worth the TIME investment....

That is what I meant by I

Pete Daoust = Nikolai Tesla-incarnate?

Mr. Frisbey, allow me to demonstrate the flaw in your thinking: In 1989 I had my EMAIL ADDRESS on my business cards. The only people who knew what it was, were those qualified to understand what it was... Yet NOW the things my parents called "secret code" are commonplace....and none of you actually know how it works.

My FUCKING EMAIL ADDRESS was the biggest "mystery" in the family. I was even accused of being "crazy".

Here is how the world saw the internet, way back then: http://youtu.be/MV6lzMfeq78

Even with that information, you STILL could not grasp what an email address was, back then.

...just as you could not grasp bitcoin, and how you could not grasp what I am building in order to steal this hidden-in-plain-sight thing, that all of you are to blind to see.

I'm trying to educate as fast as I can, but it really is too late for most of you. By the time you see the value of what I took, it will be of use ONLY to me. I'll decide who gets the benefit, after that.

OMG

the top link wont let me in I am usa it is blocked

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G06TmIHVjAY

Blocked, huh?

Lemme fix that...

please do let me know when you have full power lol

Fix what ?

Don't worry, Mr Frisbey...

...You'll know ;)

do GPS devices use/run off the net?

http://roguesupport.com/files/a-network-called-internet-1990-CBC.mp4

NOT BLOCKED, because fuck the CBC. :P

right on

Hey, I received a LETTER from the city where I live, they telling US that they will come in the next few days inside and outside my house, to re-evaluate THEIR INVENTORY :D , I was foolish enough, a few months back, to BELEIVE they had the right and the AUTHORITY to do this.......guess what ? HAHAHAHAHA!!!!....I've made a nice little NOTICE for them which they will receive this week registered mail ...

The NOTICE says: 1). OFFER DECLINED 2). WE WANT TO OBEY THE LAW 3). If there is a LAW concerning this, please send a CERTIFIED and SIGNED copy of it. 4). ANY further TIME needed from our part on this matter will be charge at $1000.00 per hour 5). Thanks for respecting our PRIVATE life in OUR castle. 6). with respect, honor, dignity and integrity. 7.) Pierre, Master of PIERRE DAOUST.

This notice remind me an electric circuit with all the necessary component........same exact shit.....I have the control on the freaking SWITCH !!!! :D ( hope I don't look to weird here ) :/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OyrX11cMkE

When is Derek Moran scheduled to become a "member"/complete his paralegal studies?

The moment i heard my first-class- "...you'll only be able to represent a PERSON in Summary Convictions-court," i asked the instructor- "So how do i become a paraLAWFUL so i can actually HELP people instead?"...nice lady, but she had no idea as to what i was getting at and the rest of the class couldnt stand me cuz of my constant questions concerning common law, which in their minds was something that was 'phased-out' at some point - LOL

So you don't intend to join the club?

Scott may hate us all and think we're idiots but at least i dont WANT to continue suffering from The Stockholm Syndrome relative to the people i interact with in these classes... ;)

No, no joining the club. But my Contract-textbook does a phenomenal job of describing exactly what the Birth Certificate is probably without the author even realizing it while they were writing it...

I'm curious, because as I understand it, a paralegal must be a member to practice, here in Ontario anyway.

yes...but some people just take the courses to learn more about the law, or should i say, statutory-law

By being a paralegal all you are doing is to help people be kept trapped as PERSONS within the statutory-system...then you are just a cog in 'The Noble Lie'

Awesome Tara Duncan!!! (as usual)....

Wow...a comment about the actual article. Thanks!

my first comment was on it also.:)

oh and btw..."Awesome Tara Duncan!!!" was from moi....~Cat.

That is true, Who-are You Frisbey, and it was very much appreciated. It's the rest of them who lose focus fast.

Yes, Cat, I made that assumption :D

Good to hear..i keep forgetting to sign after comments..cuz I'm not here that much.

No need to be negative about your mental abilities - you're here enough. Also you don't need to sign. It's more mysterious if you don't, and I know your writing anyway.

Cat the INVISIBLE :d

Ahh look who's talkin'...PIERRE

now that just CANNOT be your REAL lastname Pierre?

Wooohoooo! Cat fight!

WHY ?

Well it's not French lol?

Okay maybe im assuming too much lol.

What REAL last NAME ?

Who cares anyway ....

We all care. Deeply.

Yes, the AQUILAE seal is now forever associated with this...

...You're all doomed.

Ahh nevermind lol...just teasing you cuz you're a good-natured fellow.

Perhaps. I'm just a test pattern.

Don't believe you're being insulted Pierre. We're just having fun. Apparently we're not very good at it :P

Yes...you are a good-guy Pierre.

OK stop this good guy thing please :D

Okay..will go back to "Token French-guy"...How's that?

Being a TOKEN is not a bad thing, it EXCLUDE you from majority, so you still have a chance :)

Would you like me to restore the integrity of the brand by repeatedly pressing these little "X" marks?

*sigh*

Seriously...if one of you doesn't tie this into a "belief " theme I'm going to smite you all.

I'm still concerned here ? :/

We are supposed to be speaking about Tara's article above Pierre and we seem to have moved off topic.

Oh yeah..!! Beliefs !

What do you believe that you think is "not evil"?

I believe Tara will smite you all.

Why do you "believe" this? Cara?

Because she SAID so!

And Scott Duncan seems to have investigated some crazy beliefs system that are seriously dangerous, and have come to the conclusion that ALL beliefs are evil, and so far, it makes lots of senses to me, outough, I had NOT studied everything he have.

I also advised you not to believe everything I write :)

I am still giggling that he bit on it.

Wow. I hope it was worth it, Cara

After over a decade of study, Tara Duncan has all the benefits of a female brain, with NO drawbacks...you don't stand a chance. I'll leave you to her... :P

I will let you continu this highly intellectual discussion and will go back to my Maxims-of-Law book (only book I have :/)

Oh Fuck ! ... Hey...here is what I've found in my ONLYbook.. :D

Not to BELIEVE rashly is the nerve of wisdom.

Even LAW says it !!! :D

No need. I enjoy a good joke.

I was hoping to initiate a productive debate on concepts that, while rudimentary, would provide good building blocks on which to anchor more complex concepts and information.

How you choose to spend your time indicates what you believe is important.

What about THAT one:

What is not read is not believed. :D

Are you talking to me Tara ?

It seems the only "theme" involving belief that I think of is the "because some one said so" theme. I was putting that perspective out there. Most people that say they "believe" something have been "told" that something by some one they believe is smart. The only reason these people question that belief is because something that some one whom they believe is smarter then the first tells them some thing that contradicts the original belief.

Did belief not exist before man wrote?

Yes... it was just as evil then too.

Ok, so by that logic, let's say for the sake of argument you think I'm smarter than you are. If I simply tell you that rubbing human feces on your skin to remove warts is a sure-fire cure, you'll go for it?

I might try and find out for myself if it works for me.

NO! Everyone KNOWS that only my warm fresh semen removes warts! She won't fall for your shit, Tara!

Fair enough. If Scott is smarter than I am, is this your next medical treatment?

...no really! Try it! :D

I'm not sure this is the best analogy for the situation.

Shush... I'm smarter, remember? :P

No words. The debate on belief swirls slowly in a counter-clockwise direction.

I might try that also. I don't believe either of you is smarter. It is unlikely I would harm my fellow man by trying either of these methods.

I do see a GREAT deal of evidence supporting the claim "all belief is evil"

Yes... if it's true, that tends to happen.

Scott are you into ham radios?

BELIEF has little or NO evidence supporting it.

The day you will say something that don't make any sense to me, I will stop listening to you..... :-P

Belief is laziness.

...and yes, Mr Frisbey, a good chunk of the Internet was HAM data pipes in 1988. HAM and I are old companions.

Linux is your friend in that arena. Kernel level HAM support makes it a very cheap hobby ;)

I have read through the 108 (now 109) comments on this thread, subtracted those which have no relevance to the topic, subtracted those that say nothing useful, and have arrived at the conclusion that approximately 9% of comments are even remotely connected to what was initially written.

Of these, unless anyone cares to point to something specific (and defend their reasons for the choice), I don't see any comments that couldn't be erased without any loss of pertinent information. This includes comments that I have written.

Without useful feedback I am unable to tell if the topic is interesting, relevant or useful to those who read it. It is possible, but unlikely, that someone will read through 109 comments looking for additional insight or clarification. It is more likely that anyone who wades through the morass of useless thoughts, will decide the subject material was of so little importance, that no one bothered to take it seriously.

Right now I'm not seeing any reason to post follow-up information on this topic. I don't take issue with what you comment specifically. I just don't want the things I write to be associated with stupid shit.

In that case, your only option is t write in PRIVATE, because in public, you will be ALWAYS desapointed...

This has to be the deepest shit I ever wrote in here..think about it :-D

The purpose of putting things in writing is to convey thoughts and emotions, to disseminate information. While not publishing writing is an option, it defeats the purpose of creating it in the first place.

Why is it unreasonable to ask that an honest attempt to bring any value to others not be devalued?

I don't think what you ask is unreasonable.....I think people are...

Ok, I deleted my irrelevant comment. I DID read your essay, and I understand it for the most part. I probably don't put as much faith in beliefs that your average person does, but yes I still do have beliefs, there kinda hard to get rid of ya know. I new in this forum, the topics in here are pretty intimidating lol, esp for a dumby like me.

I found out that people with the most beliefs, are the ones that last the less longer in here :-D ...I wonder why ?

I'v thought about this subject alot since i joined here. Most of the belief structures listed i honestly never had and this as seen as a "bad attitude" by those that cling to them. When i first joined here i didn't believe a word as i had never so much as heard of Scott or Tara but now I know he is right for that very reason because A it makes sense and B i cant rebut or contradict anything he is saying and my own reading brought me to those conclusions. Not saying i don't have any belief structures holding me back i have took on board information i don't understand as fact at time's because it sounded good I'm working hard to get rid of that.

Tara Duncan, I have read ALL of the subjects you have posted here. I find the subject of belief (and how you conveyed your perception) very relevant to where man finds himself today. I LOVE challenging every belief. Anytime I hear myself using the word, I switch to thinking about the "belief" and researching rather than believing. Thank you for your time and effort. My father has also been reading your writings. I am ever so grateful as he has set the stage for belief in my life and anytime I challenge him he just gets annoyed. I wish all could wipe the slate clean, then start over without belief.

Thank you very much, Cara Small Atherton, Carl Dunne, Pete Daoust, Mathew Morrill - very thoughtful and inspiring (you didn't have to delete anything though, Mathew).

I contend that anything you have internalized without understanding or verification can fall under the "belief" category. If you understand something you know the mechanics and can explain it to others. You can't explain a belief (even though it may also be a fact) as you haven't taken the time to comprehend what you have assimilated. If you know something you may still be opinionated and reluctant to change that opinion if new evidence is presented; but you don't have the same emotional angst about having your position challenged. You're interested in having the right answer.

Being open to new ideas and constructive debate is critical to personal growth and information sharing. We need to be able to separate those things we believe from those that are real.

As Cara mentioned earlier, we choose to believe things because we are too lazy to investigate. We take one belief and connect another one to it, and then another. At some point we are constructs put together with fictional information. In a large number of cases we have forgotten where we acquired the information and accept most of it as fact.

It's a long road back from this mental conditioning.

Thank you very much for your constructive comments.

Tara Duncan,

I am and have been quiet on the group for a few months now.... I do not want to waste anyone's time.

My beliefs were shattered a few years ago and I am still trying to get my bearing. I do not want to distract or detract from the importance of what this group represents....

Scott states we value the wrong things... What would be the correct things to value?

I seek knowledge..... I value this and my life above all.

I don't want to leave you hanging Jason, but I don't have an instant answer.

Humorously enough I may not be qualified to even comment on your question as I've heard the same comments about myself often enough. Perhaps others have comments that may be useful to you. I'll ponder it for both of us.

That last sentence seems like an excellent start.

I am taking a serious look at all the things in my life. Such as my facebook friends. Do I hold value keeping 1500 friends, people I don't rally know. So I un-friend them if they had no value too me. I value my time now and seek ways to not wasted it on worthless things, such as video games going to the movies. I just spent 3 hours looking for a grammar book. I could not find 1. I went to Wall mart and Meijer's The used book store I looked up on line was closed. This endeavor was not wasted it showed me how so many don't value correct English. At wall mart a sales person directed me to two web cites White smoke and correct English. and also a defrag download which I will shear with any one that asked me. Sincerely Your's Mr, Frisbey

Belief systems aren't just about religion.

The beliefs we hold about ourselves are more damaging than any religion. Granted many of the beliefs we hold about ourselves originated in religion.

The only way that one can get out of the current system we find ourselves in is suspending their belief in it.

There is validity and actual empowerment in suspending belief systems instead of feeding them.

We don't know our own programming; we can't see our own.

Yes I believed I could go and find a Grammar book to buy at the above locations. Finding out I could not Showed me how stuck I was.

All belief is evil? is that a belief lol...if its a fact, is something being a fact a belief, do you believe a fact to be only facts? How does one determine anything unless its something they say because they believe it to be true or it a strong belief no ?

Until we challenge what we think we know. will we cant find out.

We tend to internalise the beliefs of the people around us during childhood "Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen."

People may adopt the beliefs of a charismatic leader, even if those beliefs fly in the face of all previous beliefs, and produce actions that are clearly not in their own self-interest

Beleifs are NOT facts, it seems to be two different things....

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/belief

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fact?s=t

Any good books on beliefs similar to what is being discussing here?

Yeah!!...The bible :D

Believing in something there is no proof of sets you up for the slippery-slope of what WONT you question then...?

Seems most cling to the slope as long as possible. I should know better.........but I catch myself catching myself.

It took me 17 years to grasp what Scott Duncan meant by that.

That's the worst part; Once you get NOTICE, you "pay" retroactively to that day. 17 years TRULY wasted. No value comes from belief, because no value comes from evil.

I'm delighted to say that when Scott explained that ALL BELIEF IS EVIL I absolutely grasped what he was saying right off the bat for once. I have ditched the saying " I believe" in any conversation and have replaced it with ( "My opinion given what information I have is.... blah blah blah, but I don't really know, it's only my opinion." ) when I cannot truthfully say "I know" (Have knowledge) I'm really pleased with myself on that one. Thanks Scott and secondary thanks to Tara Duncan :-)

That beleif thing makes me realize that I'm fucking scare to death, and it has been that way since I'm 7 years old, and it makes me so fucking mad, just writing it scares me big time.....and more I realize it, more I realize that it's the same for EVERYONE :( HHHEEEEELPPPP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is fucking sad.....just saying !

Now, after 17 minutes of writing this, I am scared about how you guys will JUDGE me about it... HAHAHAHAHA!!!!....I'm fucking cooked :/

I too am scared... since I was very young. I did not realize to what depths until I started taking action. There is a warrant out for me. I am living in a vessel called Serenity. Every time I see a cop my heart leaps to my throat.... the only satisfaction I receive is knowing that I have access to the information presented in this group. Knowledge is tremendously empowering. So I am afraid... I am not incapacitated but I still battle depression. I know I am not helpless but the lifetime of conditioning keeps me going 3 steps forward and 1 or 2 steps back. I am stocking my toolbox with the notices and legal instruments presented only these threads. I choose not to engage, I will be kidnapped at some point.... I have a lot of work left to do. So Pete Daoust I do not judge you.... I relate to exactly what you have stated above..

I guess I need to become a fucking KING to touch this SERINITY ?

serenity [s??r?n?t?] n pl -ties 1. the state or quality of being serene 2. (often capital) a title of honour used of certain royal personages: preceded by his, her, etc. the state or quality of being serene; tranquillity

You are Master of your domain call yourself anything you want... Serenity in this case is a 1979 motorhome...

I have to admit that this group HELP a lot, in fact, it does a pretty good job for ME. Some days, I even get surprisingly efficient with ME. :) It's way better than alcohol :D

All belief is EVIL, Daniel J Wentz?...i think not

Signed, "...a pen-CHANT for buggery..."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTJj4wbmAhk

Coinciding with Tara's article here on BELIEF, i STRONGLY recommend BELIEVE it or not, to go see OBLIVION with Tom Cruise before it leaves theatres.....theres a message in it THEY are trying to tell us ;)

seen it :) Tara I got an English book today. By Bell and Cohn's Third edition Handbook of grammar style and usage. it cost 50 cents lol

Blake Gardner: Like the Jesuit justification for everything is EQUIVOCATION - the doctrine of mental reservation/equivocation has a lot of relevance in judiciary, me thinks:-)

Tara Duncan, Nice post. It helps to clarify thing a bit a lot more with me then you can imagine. You should post more often. :)

Scott Duncan: Too much credit. I have people smarter than me I throw things at, to see if my position holds.

The biggest LIE that "BELIEF" sells is the De Facto notion that something cannot be understood... because they (the "believers") don't understand.

God did it. No need to understand. Waste of time.

Scott Duncan: BELIEF is taking NOT THINKING and making a virtue out of it. THAT IS WHY it's worthless. IT CAN'T have value because of what it IS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tgz5-8chSlk

Scott Duncan: " If OPPT is what I "believe" it to be, then obviously all of what Scott & you guys stand for is null & void. "

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I rest my case.

THIS is why "belief" needs to be destroyed. Ignoring reality and smugly saying "belief" trumps it. This is rational in his eyes.

EVERY time one of you sells belief, i see this play out. If you've EVER wondered how the Noble Lie took hold, this is it.

The "virtue" this guy espouses is what allows entire cultures to be victimized. Keep that in mind whenever you see these people selling "belief" as the highest principle.

These are the "mafia wives" of the system. ENABLERS.

ALWAYS hit them with the ridicule and contempt they deserve.

Scott Duncan: Don't forget "Faith" is better than "trust". That's a big one for Religious kooks.

Scott Duncan: They are ALL the same. They are running THE SAME PROGRAM.

The ironic part is when "christians" "fight the system" not knowing THE SYSTEM is what gave them their crippling delusions in the first place.

Scott Duncan: The truth will set you FREE!

...but first it will REALLY piss you off.

Roguesupport Nx: That's the problem with cognitive dissonance. Thinking and believing are mutually exclusive. When someone advances a fact that is in direct conflict with what you "believe" it is impossible to hold onto the belief if you are examining the foundations of why you think your "beliefs" are true.

Unfortunately, in the case where your entire entire existence is founded on a series of "beliefs", how can you let that go without completely re-examining who and what you are? Belief, when countered with logic, has the ability to “lock” people's brains. The only defense against letting go of all unproductive thought is to stick your fingers in your ears, reiterate your beliefs at the top of your lungs, and hope that insulting the person talking to you will convert them, or make them go away.

Holy “Three Little Pigs” house foundation kids. Talking to people who “believe” everything, but don't actually “know” anything, is largely predictable and very tiring.

Scott Duncan: Jason Stop wandering in circles. Start at the base. ON/OFF.

EVERYTHING can be ACCURATELY extrapolated from there. COMPUTER SCIENCE is the ANSWER TO EVERYTHING.

(For the girls: Computer Science has NOTHING to do with computers. Math has nothing to do with calculators either)

LMAO - Scott Duncan: Last time the "Hope & Change" schtick was played, they painted Hitler black and plopped him in the US President's chair with a Teleprompter.

I don't like Hope & Change anymore

Roguesupport Nx: To your point, Súil Eile, things are always changing. People are changing their behaviour to be more "politically correct", to wait more patiently in lineups, to say nothing when they observe injustices lest they be drawn into the conflict. Further to Scott's point, hope and change should probably be avoided until we figure out that only one direction is productive.

Scott Duncan: ...and it if it requires "belief" it's fraud. The people selling you the fraud, don't know it's a fraud. They all serve people they will NEVER meet.

Scott Duncan: But believers do.

I need people who UNDERSTAND so they know WHY I give an order.

...and I need "believers" to shut the fuck up and do what they're told.

The problem isn't getting rid of the corrupt, it's what to do AFTER.

Scott Duncan: This has been a war going on since 1982

Súil Eile: what happened in '82?

Scott Duncan: UK Canada Act.

Scott Duncan: That was when the people were sold

Scott Duncan: Because the constitution drafts you into government service.

Scott Duncan: The IRISH FREE STATE was where they tested the global deployment.

It worked.

Sorry you missed it

Adam Thomas: CONSTITUTOR !!!

Scott Duncan: NONE of this is designed for the HONEST. THAT is the only thing that will kill/fix it.

Scott Duncan: BELIEF is the core. KILL THAT and the rest crumbles.

Scott Duncan: The whole THING is designed to support LIARS.

Honesty is toxic to the system.

Scott Duncan: If I simply tell everyone who will listen how it works, all the "Belief" in the world won't help them

Scott Duncan: Yes...and they teach that 'FAITH" is HIGHER than TRUST.

They support it with "You must respect the beliefs of others" and similar idiocy.

Scott Duncan: Yes Steve, that's how fraud schemes work. They develop false "confidence" in "belief". Hence the term "Con Man".

and with this I will leave you alone Tom Messer these should keep you busy for a bit..