May 29, 2013 7:42 PM

That is why you instructed us to lien the person. then place into a trust of a holding company. To stop them from doing this. :)

So they create a new artificial entity for each money making act of piracy?

So, is that how we get sent for psych evaluations and diagnosed with insanity...for multiple 'PERSON'ality (dis)orders? :-)

Every time they create a JOHN SCOTT DUNCAN, AQUILAE has the prior claim. If the government does not acknowledge the claim, it is my RIGHT to destroy a security instrument based on JOHN SCOTT DUNCAN, and/or it's variations.

Who are you talking to?

That I get!

are you posting in the wrong thread? :D

Who won't let me? I'll kill `em!

Are charges a security instrument?

Chris, each time you are pulled over by a cop (read as Policy Enforcer) they are attempting to get you to contract into a transaction of a security interest. This occurs each time you respond to a question. "Can I see your licence and registration?" you hand over your licence... viola... you have entered the contract.

"Hey YOU"! Can I create a brand new Chris Schulte and attach SURETY to YOU?

YES? OH THANKS! What a GOOD CITIZEN you are! By letting me CREATE a BRAND FUCKING NEW "Chris Schulte", you help pay for the clubs and bullets that will be used against you in a couple of years! :D

WOW. I have never heard this before! So, all I have to do is refuse to contract and a new "Chris Schulte" doesn't get created?

Yet it all still starts with a simple AGREEMENT. To the OP,,,,a question, "So in essence, each time it is like a dollar bill (coupon) all are alike yet each is distinct and unique as to the transaction?"

OF COURSE it's a fucking security instrument! :P

IT'S ALL ABOUT ACCOUNTING AND SURETY! ALL OF IT...

...that doesn't magically change for...

YOU!

ie...ITS ALL ABOUT HOW MUCH WE CAN STEAL AND WHO WE CAN STEAL IT FROM.

Chris Schulte has the SAME BIRTHDAY as the Chris Schulte account! SONOFABITCH! How awesomely convenient! LOTS OF COPIES!

JUST LIKE BA'AL!

I want every woman who's reading this, and JUST GETTING IT NOW, to report to my boat IMMEDIATELY, in a slutty schoolgirl outfit! YOU FUCKING OWE ME THAT!

Each time a presentment is made it's a case of "Is Chris Schulte in da house..." and as long as some person says yes they don't give a fuck 'cause they collect EVERY time !

Chris... here is what I do here in New Zealand... Cop pulls me over... get out of the car immediately and approach the cop, "Did you witness me breach the peace in some way?'... Cop usually says something like.. "This is a random warrant of fitness and registration check."... "Ok, so you are operating a phishing exercise. Do you have a complainant that will state I have damaged them or their property?" Usaul response "Well no..." . "Then you are at the limit of your jurisdiction. Please take out your notebook and record the following... 'I, Gerry of the Cardinalli family do not consent to enter a contract of security interest. Should you force me into one, it is under duress. I intend to persue you personally under full commercial liability as a result of your actions. I demand to see your Police ID. I demand your address details and the value of any property including your home that you own."

This is where they usually flip out. I offer them a copy of my Statement of Claim, Denial of Consent and Schedule of fees. They usually refuse to accept this. When they do I respond with "I am offering you full disclosure. Please note in your notebook that you refused this. Any attempt to detain or arrest me outside your prescribed jurisdiction will now be treated as an unlawful infringement on my inalienable human rights."

I love engaging with JW's when they ask me if I know the name of God I answer "I haven't been introduced yet, he hasn't spoken to me directly and if you don't have a 2 witnesses with first hand knowledge that he has spoken and introduced himself to you FUCK OFF !

That's awesome :D

Why? Seriously, if none of you realized this, it's a foregone conclusion you are missing OTHER VERY basic points. The "TARGET" is a little out of range at the moment.

Alain Delon, you REALLY do suck at accounting. I"M the one the debt is owed to.

Hey, remember when I said you might be missing a VERY BASIC THING?

This would be one of those. :P

At the end of Dean's audio-clip, where the justice said- "Ok, ill release DEAN KORY on $1500 bail".....i couldnt help but think- "Ok, you agreed to release DEAN KORY on $1500 bail, but what about Dean...is he free to go too??" ;)

No. They already OWN that one. :D

so at that point they owned both DEAN KORY, and, Dean Kory...?

You promised to "APPEAR" as BA'AL has commanded :D

i get that just fine, yhe dean cory on your licence etc.. is the corporation DEAN CORY in witch the corporations deal with as you, YOU are dean cory of flesh blood and bone. untill you imancipate your self from the DEAN CORY corporation then you dean cory are anserable to the law the DEAN CORY corporation subsides to

Wow !!!!... o_O Fuck, I think I get it

...aaaaaand now you all have no fucking excuse! PIERRE GETS IT!

...I'll let that sink in.

Allegedly

I got the sense Dean was telling the justice- "I consent to being DEAN KORY now, but next time im here, uh-uh, no way, its gonna be a different story, just you watch Crown Attorney..."

yes Derek Moran you at the moment are a joint persons

Dylan Johns, please shut up about CORPORATIONS. Your NAME is NOT A FUCKING CORPORATION! That is DISINFORMATION and it's not tolerated here.

Refrain from the use of the word CORPORATION, unless you are talking about an ACTUAL CORPORATION!

it is you who is disinformed dick head you oviusly have no idea. watch kimatica it my give you some basic information you are clearly lacking moron!

John, tingling?

Can somebody help me?...Im looking for the comment i posted where i expressly asked Dylan Johns: "Hi Dylan Johns...am I at the moment a joint PERSONS?" :/

Well, you already know what's going to happen, but now I have to wipe the shit-stain of disinformation off first.

You have ugly babies too...

Wait, SCOTT!.....

..i dont think i like Dylan Johns hair-colour at this point-and-time

whoa :(

No, I won't wait. His babies ARE ugly, and that is the OFFICIAL reason I baned him. You can quote me. UGLY FUCKING BABIES. :D

there is a long pause, so me thinks there will be a rebuttal... c/w tingling

:-D

Of COURSE I now have to compose a rebuttal to wipe the shit-stain of DISINFORMATION off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcjIestFVOc

SHIT STAIN REMOVAL (Fuck those are ugly babies!):

A NAME is not a corporation, any more than it's an animal, or a plant. Try eating the word "apple" as your diet, until that concept sinks in. You might want to consume the word "multivitamin" to NOT supplement your non-diet, until you clue in.

A CORPORATION is CHARTERED AND ENDORSED BY GRANTORS (GRANTOR PARTIES and GOVERNMENT = CORPORATION = PERSON), and have the following:

SHAREHOLDERS A FIRST DIRECTOR A COMMERCIAL NAME

YOU are contracting for ANOTHER corporation (HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN IN RIGHT OF *ADMINISTRATIVE ZONE NAME HERE*) and assuming surety for it. THIS CREATES A FINANCIAL INSTRUMENT WHICH YOU CONSENT TO... because you are IDENTIFYING YOURSELF as a CORPORATE TRUSTEE AND CREATING AN ACCOUNT TO BE BILLED! YOU ARE ACTING AS A TRUSTEE AND NOT A CORPORATION!

It does not matter why the guy with the ugly babies is lying to you, just accept that he is.

Seriously! Why do you people-with-ugly-babies, and your ilk try to insert lies?

...and why couldn't those babies have been blow-jobs, instead of being doomed to spending their formative years being ugly AND lied to?

Oh so many mysteries!

I could have not said it better :-D

TO!

The words "is" "of" "am" "as" "I" and "for" come to mind but not necessarily in that order. For instance 'I am acting as the trustee for the corp/trust known as BlahBlah. The name itself is not the entity this why you can never 'be' the corp/trust but you may speak to it/act for it in certain capacities which liabilities are attached/inheirent to the title used. Thu m typing sucks

That's Chad Brodgesell, kids. He's one of the best students here. he shuts up and reads... then he reads again...AND ASKS QUESTIONS. Questions which show he's been reading, because he asks the RIGHT questions!

I've never had to send the antibodies after him, and he's never known the sharp tingling sensation, followed by... (Fuck those babies were ugly) BANNED!

Sorry, I realized that schtick was not used, so I made up for it, here :D

...but FUK! Ugly AND lied to. Poor kids. :(

Dean Kory, have you signed ANYTHING other than the notice of mistake. If yes, what exactly have you signed ?

Recognizance of Bail...

...under duress!

Is it the same as ME when I sign a packing slip from a supplier ?. As soon as I put my signature on any NEW packing slip that is being created, I simply become SURETY for the VALUE of this new packing slip...

Can I consider this NEW PERSON that they've just created the same as a NEW PACKING SLIP ?

How do they get me into SURETY other than SIGNING the fucking thing ?

Whe a supplier show up at my place (it happened 2 or 3 times in 10 years) with some stuff I have NOT ordered, I just DON'T sign this packing slip and I tell them NO, I have not ordered that stuff....

If this supplier start beating the shit out of me because I DON'T want this unordered stuff, I surely have the right to defend myself ? :/

Scott Duncan, please, I'm I on the right track here ?

Maybe more like 'you 'accept' to become/act as surety' by signing. You are placing your acccount/trust to offset any charges or losses while you are holding said item in trust? And you will willingly by the signature accepting 'personal' liability for any thing involved in the matter until some one else receives it from you there by doing the above to themelves. And the ball revolves once more down the hill.?

NO FUCKING EXCUSE PEOPLE! Pierre gets it! LET THAT SINK IN!

Game of Hot Potato so to zpeak?

This is SHOCKING, it's like a relief, serious, I just have to say NO and stick to it :/

So, they make shit up (Statutes), then offer you a PACKING SLIP at the barrel of a gun, and the only way a deal is made is if you sign? But if you don't sign, they may kidnap you and beat the fuck outta you?

So is everything they do (citations, excise tax, registration, etc) all PACKING SLIPS?

With the income taxes, they even make YOU create the packing slip :D

They make you ONE OF THEIR EMPLOYEE, they make YOU create the paper work to fuck yourself :D

And they don't even PAY you HAHAAHAHAAHAH!

I went to my bank yesterday for the first time in awhile, had them reverse a years worth of service fees/charges. To do it, they wanted me to SIGN an ALLONGE. I didnt want to get into it with them, so i took it, and signed it- By: (my signature), ALL RIGHTS RESERVED, WITHOUT RECOURSE TO ME. They looked at it for a bit, and commented- "Hmm...thats interesting" LOL

Pierre, that is why I no longer think that you should be ground up as filler for pet foods. :D

See ?.... There is HOPE :D

I have a broken analog watch that's right twice a day too, Pierre :P

There's no hope of it EVER being more UNTIL THE WATCH IS FIXED!

...to push the metaphor right down your throat :D

Fuck off :(

CHRIS: i think the exact description would be- 'MERCANTILE INSTRUMENTS'

Like the metaphoric watch, you need to accept that you are still a "broken watch", but when you are a watch that's right MORE than 2 times a day, it means the watch is fixed. ;)

Pierre...you mean the WATCH-metaphor offended you more than the ground-up-for-pet-food COMMENT? :/

But if you are LOST far away in the woods, this WATCH can save your life, even if it gives you the right information only twice a day (oh fuck that's deep :/)

YES. :D

...i metaphorically shoved that metaphor up your pooper. It was weird.

...You should see the shit I write when I'm stoned! :D

mercantile (mar-kan-teel or -tIl or -til), adj. (17c) Of or relating to merchants or trading; commercial

instrument. (I5c) 1. A written legal document that defines rights, duties, entitlements, or liabilities, such as a contract, will, promissory note, or share certificate.

Well, you don't want to see the stuff I write when I'm stoned, first, I take off ALL these letters on my keyboard, and I put them back in alphabetic order.....then you should see what it gives after I finish writing

I can't wait to explaine all of this to my BACK UP FRIENDS, some of them are into the packing slips business :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7c70Yijg5E

HEY, GOVERNMENT AGENT, I WILL SPREAD THE GOOD NEWS.......SAME AS JESUS IN HIS GOOD DAYS... :d

...like I do here.

What's that shit John Frisbey ?

POINT-OF-ORDER...!

Scott Duncan, what TECHNICS other than SIGNING they may use to trick you into that fucking SURETY ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearls_before_swine

I do it here on THE TENDER FOR LAW, DAILY!

http://THETENDERFORLAW.COM will also be "Pearls Before the Swine" soon, too.

And WHY in the world would you have CONCERN for me ? John Frisbey

Are you so idiot ?

Good point Pierre, better question would be the most effective way of BARring it from happening to begin with.....i cant wait for the- HOW TO ENFORCE AN ESTOPPEL AGAINST YOUR ADVERSARY- thread

Signed, posting-PUBLIC NOTICE in the newspaper and/or 'bookface'/Google+

I have NO concern for you....none, nada NOTHING.....please don't have concern for me NEVER. Thank You

OK...Derek Moran, I hope your better question is the same as mine, because I can't hardly get yours :D

Is your name's Pierre idiot ?

I don't get it!!! If "Dean Kory" kills a member of my family he can't be held accountable before a court of law in this country because of some obscure wording in the laws of this country?

Are you guys all out to lunch or are you all just hopping that you're never the victim of a crime left HOPING FOR JUSTICE. Is all this in the hope of creating anarchy?

I was under the impression that this page was for serious discussions of legal and political ramifications of laws but instead I am faced with discussions on how to NOT get fined or convicted of being too stupid to have a drivers license, for example.

I think you're all hyper focused on what the government does wrong at the expense of the fact that your fellow citizens, brother, sister, parents, might not want to share the road, or have their children play nearby a road where someone too STUPID to retain something as simple as a drivers license drives by.

I agree that we as a country go overboard with a lot of laws and I also agree that most of our politicians are bought and payed COWARDS but lets not go overboard and protect the stupid from being held accountable.

Seriously Scott Duncan, when they create a NEW PERSON, what TECHNICS other than SIGNING they may use to trick you into that fucking SURETY ?

Rui Olivieira, you REALLY don't get it, If I KILL someone for NO reason, I will end up in jail if a JURY decide so. Come on fuck.....

And by the way, the STUPID, as you call them, will ALWAYS be accountable for their stupidity

And I KNOW and can INTRODUCE you some extremly stupid humans with driver's license

"...your fellow citizens, ".....? :/

And thinking of it, Riu, YOU are extremly STUPID and you are a GOVERNMENT agent just by the smell....you are lucky I don't have the PUSH BUTTON :D

It took me 19 seconds to figure it out. Thanks

Tingles? Right nut tingly. Wait for Scott to scratch.

Where is Scott Duncan for fuck sakes, oh Derek Moran, you have that push button ?

Def tingly!!!! Waiting for the shit stain clean up!

Citizen=Officer on land serving a corporation. CITIZENS are commercial titles, under an admiralty. WHO'S ADMIRALTY?

Scott's 'Hair-Colour-Declaration' made the other day, aside.....i would never deny Scott the opportunity to get- 'Tingly-with-it'

Come on Derek Moran, Scott is busy right now I'm sure.....must be sexual duties or some stuff like that....

Pete Daoust give Scott some time. I have feeling we are all in for another lesson. :)

You mean he's getting a blow job while he is writing a sublime article ? :/

Dean Kory download finally done now i can listen to it. Facebook on mobile sucks. Sry OT.

Pierre- "Come on Derek Moran, Scott is busy right now I'm sure"..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHa3D-musUw

Me, Derek Moran, I'll rather jump in the pool and die, than to fucking fear of not being able to swim by my self :D , I might die younger than you because of this :(

I'll back you up ANYTIME on something like that Derek Moran, ANYTIME !!!!

Ummm.....you're a father, right? *throws-Pierre-a-life-perserver*

If you see SOME strangers getting in with some crazy stupid shit, and you flush him, I WILL back you up, You can count on me.....seriously !

I do have lots of these Life Perservers :D

By giving YOU, Derek Moran, the OPPORTUNITY to flush crazy strangers that may APPEAR in here, Scott showed you some pretty good respect.....I say you have to show yourself the same respect and USE this opportunity...., This is how I see this anyway...whatever !!

John Frisbey, Can't you read ?....I do have lots of these Life Perservers

And I don't want and/or need yours ! get with it man

So this guy Rui Oliveira is pissed off because we're learning how NOT to get in trouble?

He is NOT pissed off, he is trying to make himself FEEL GOOD about who he is.

To think like that, and to try to approve himself on his thinking, he is 100% a government worker.

Or, he is RREEEAAAAALLLLLYYYYY fucked-up :D

..he probably just doesnt understand what level of real-life 'INCEPTION' Scott is explaining

PET FOOD FILLERS..???...How in the world can it be a lower thing in the food chain ?....I just realized this shit :(

I don't feel that way, anymore! That's good too, isn't it? :D

I'm not sure....depend on WHAT way you feel now :/

Nevermid....don't say it....PLEASE :D

You'll always have "token french guy" to fall back on, if you have an identity crisis, Pierre. :D

I ain't jokin'

...Token.

Doing a final proof read. Will post the main article in a few minutes...

TOKEN: Something that signifies or evidences authority, validity, or identity

...funny you should mention that :D

something that indicates authority, proof, or authenticity

Oh pierre, you are not putting it into CONTEXT!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokenism

Fuck off the context....I choose MY definition :D

Well, yours can be useful as well, in SPECIFIC matters ;)

Well, here in reality, you are this group's Token French Guy.

I know, but what do you expect....I stop DREAMING, or I stop finding shit that MAKES ME FEEL GOOD :D

have bland or inoffensive personalities so as to not be accused of stereotyping negative traits

Everyone LOVES me in here :D

This group would be BIG TIME fucking boring without me :)

I like the "exotic" part... sounds good for FUCKS THE PUPPY!

Anyway, I hope you will disect this for me :/ what TECHNICS other than SIGNING they may use to trick you into that fucking SURETY ?

Just by saying YES ? Just by saying NOTHING ? Beating ? Threats ? Manipulation ? Keeping Me in kidnapping ? Plea Guilty ? Plea Not-Guilty ? All of the above ? Something Else ?

Thanks in Advance ! :)

Sorry Beverly Girl-Brain Braaksma! :( Pierre destroyed, what was to be a future TENDER FOR LAW CLASSIC, in what appears to be a tantrum.

Beverly Girl-Brain Braaksma, we are discussing serious stuff here...Man things...

Sorry, after googleling this Fucks the Puppy thing, and press the image button, I've got mad.....very mad, and I had to go to the washroom to vomit....and my store was filled with customers......and some unidentified friends that follow us here sent me some pretty fucked up text message, I almost got into a fight with one of them :( I had to destroy it, to make sure I don't destroy anything else....

What the heck are you talking about John Frisbey

What question idiot ?

Are you fucking drunk again idiot ?

They NEVER turned off the switch....not as of yet anyway, in fact I sent them ANOTHER registered mail letter today....

OK....don't talk to me no more your fucking stupid criss d'ostie de cave de soucoupe....Just don't talk to me, don't mention my name, don't address me and FORGET I EXIST fucking moron. I'm serious....just stop

It's a Token Tantrum... it will pass. Quebecois are trained from birth to throw tantrums to solve problems. It's a tough habit to break. Just wait it out. He'll get it on his 8th or 9th read.

I don't give a shit about Scott liking what you do or write....I just don't give a shit....talk to him idiot....not to me that's it

Why, that last Token Tantrum took out the "Fucks the Puppy" genesis thread.

A tragic wound to our burgeoning culture! :(

THEY DON'T HAVE MY FUCKING ID, THEY ASKED ME A THOUSAND TIME MY ID, and I NEVER gave it to them....THEY ARE FUCKED WITH ME....and you don't and never will need to WALK ME ANYWHERE you fucking alcoholic....LEAVE ME ALONE

...yup! One minute there was people peein themselves, and suddenly, out of nowhere, a Token Tantrum. It was a mile wide! People in Oklahoma were starting to think they don't have it so bad! "At least it wasn't a token tantrum" they said...

Alas the legend of FUCKS-THE-PUPPY died a horrible death. :(

What the fuck is a tantrum....I don't fucking get it...

Only a five-ish hour lifetime for FUCKS THE PUPPY

Least I caught it... :D CLASSIC

Well fuck the fucker....good for him

WE WILL NEVER FORGET!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tantrum

I am NOT fucking violent :/

I'm a peace and love type of fifi... :D

John Frisbey:look I have to walk you through this: I DON'T WANT YOU TO WALK ME NOWHERE.....I DON'T want you to be CONCERN for me, I don't want you to throw me Life savers, I don't want you to HELP me, I careless about what you think, I'm NOT here for you, I FUCKING HATE YOU. is that clear enoug ? I KNOW you, you are a LIAR and one day, you will be caught....so, in the mean time, GO FUCK YOURSELF..!!!! Good evening everyone.

You NEVER pay anything. You only discharge. MONEY IS DEBT. They are liabilities, not payment. You are COMPLETING the transaction by responding to the name.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/tenderforlaw/permalink/518715888164348/

Scott's mentioned before: Since you cannot PAY for anything, they provide the means by which to DISCHARGE the debt with the BILL-PAYMENT-REMITTANCE they TENDERED/OFFERED to you at the bottom of your bill; however, and since nobody knows what that actually is...what people do is choose to COUNTER-OFFER to settle the debt with LEGAL TENDER instead, and in turn, they ACCEPT this counter-offer

https://www.facebook.com/groups/tenderforlaw/permalink/518715888164348/

Seriously. This thread only exists to hype THIS:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/tenderforlaw/permalink/518715888164348/

...up like a bad Batman Movie.

Get on it!

Now what constitutes acceptance for the remittance. I am sure you also need to send it to somewhere specific since grunts wont know what to do with it.

well actually. the fact that you shouldn't be accepting surety would imply that you are canceling the debt by not accepting it.

Derek, this was gone over in a couple of threads. Read the Bills of Exchange Act, it says a simple signature denotes acceptance, somewhere in there.

John, ITS ALL ACCOUNTING... this is where it all links together.

BOE states acceptance is delivery and notification.

I thought myself that it was obvious and when you consider the accounting side of things it couldn't really work any other way .

THAT is THE one Chris Schulte......

Perfect....I will respond to this "new arrest warrant" with a new NoM

Oh...well, lets administrate :D

Scott when the Corporation Liens the legal cap name is that going to gather up all the sureties that ever was created?

may I please have my password?

AHA! that makes new light. not the same as before, but a fresh new (ailbet looks a lot alike)...

HEELLOOSSS !!!! :D

Hahaha!!!....these tantrum days :-D

"EVERY GOVERNMENT CHARGE is a NEW PERSON with SURETY ATTACHED TO YOU! The "DEAN KORY" on your driver's licence, is NOT THE "DEAN KORY" ON THAT WARRANT! THAT"S A NEW "DEAN KORY" THAT WAS CREATED, AND THAT "YOU" RESPONDED TO!" - Scott

I have a couple questions because my mind tends to "picture" things as I read them and can then lead me to understand them incorrectly or not at all...

When you say they create a new person, because I'm still thinking a wee bit wrong :p, I picture the birth registration process. Obviously this isn't what happens in this instance though. So in what way do they create a new person?

Is it simply a case of creating a name the unsuspecting party responds to and creating joinder with it? (Typically the name the unsuspecting man gives)

Is that all it takes to create a person for the purposes of a security instrument?

And, I hate to ask but, what definition of the word person are you using above?

Cheers for your time

I am not sure, but I think PERSON is a vest, or a costume one can put on. So they are creating a new costume and whoever puts it on is that PERSON. :-D

I get that alright Chris, it's the creation process they use that I'm unclear about. Obviously it's none of my business, all I need to remember is it's never me nor am I surety for it...

What's the least amount of work they have to do to create a new person?; I suppose is my question...

A person is a thing that can be use, to do COMMERCE with....

Here, in Quebec, I can go online, on a site like corporationcenter.ca , and create a NEW person in 10 minutes......

So when these cops, fill that paperwork on the side of the street, they are creating a new person.

And they attach SURETY to "me" :P

I haven't seen ANY paperwork on my case with 2 signatures under a seal

I have seen a stupid cops signature under seal....but that is it

Just like an unrebutted statement stands as truth... ?

"Pierre YOU owe me £50"...

You say "Oh yes I'm Pierre and you are the "law" so you must be correct. Now where's my wallet"...

:P

Just by handing them the Driver's license, they assume you are surety right there....

Eamonn, Scott makes reference to Dean Otf Kory's case. He was charged with something first. Then he got charged with different charges a next time. Every time there is a new charge, each needs to be addressed as "charge= new person= surety needs to be established and settled asap".

So for example, sometimes in proceedings the crown/prosecutor will change the charges while in court, adding more, or replacing previous charges with others. Every time there is a new charge, you need to take of that charge, regardless that you had use the NoM previously to discharge/settle the accounting for other charges.

I hope that helps you clear the matter.

No need words, just the ACT of "me", grabbing my wallet, pulling that Driver's License, and give it to this cop, is ENOUGH for this POLICE OFFICER, to assume that I AM WORKING for that corporation....for whom this cop works

I never gave a DL...which is probably WHY they wanted me to sign as SURETY so bad.

So the least amount of work they have to do to create a new person is simply get a name (one of many simple things they can do)...

I've still heard nothing about my being stopped. 3 months ago now... They got 3 left to act... :D

The part about it that "excites" me is that if nothing comes of it, people might start actually fucking listening to me...! (Friends, family etc...)

Next time I get arrested, for traffic matter, I won't have that Driver's License on me.....I need to experiment that shit :D

But there is some new information coming out in my case (I sometime say 'case' and sometimes 'cases' because in the second, they fucked up and NEVER served me with a complaint)....the justice says that the 'defendant' is a Person. As per the definition and disclosure, I had NO IDEA I was signing for a 'cororation, society, association or partnership'.

Pierre I thought you said you wouldn't argue just administrate? :p

Same here Eamonn..Pierre has a victory under his belt which I need....and you too I presume?

I won't ARGUE, I will just forget the Driver's license at home.....that's it....

Then they will say "What is your NAME?"

All they need is a NAME. That is why Scott has insisted in "loosing" the name.

My name is Pierre.

Just tell em you are a fucking FREEMAN ON THE LAND. Experiment with that shit

No, my name is Pierre, that will be my answer

Go ahead Chris Evan....play the cop's role ?

"Same here Eamonn..Pierre has a victory under his belt which I need....and you too I presume?"

Define victory I suppose... :p

NoM is sent for the other thing and then there's this one... Toll booth company stopped bothering me but I wouldn't go raving that I've beaten the system with regards that...

Hi Sir...I am a fat loser that lost at football in high school and my wife has a huge rubber penis. License and Registretion please"

Pete beat CRA for a lot of money before TTFL

QRA :P

Alot of debt I'd say rather than money...

And it was at the begining of TTFL

Excuse me Sir....License and Resgistration please?

I told the court when asked..."What is your name?"..."I do not have a NAME, I have a "Calling",I'm called Dean spelled capital "D" lower case e-a-n"

I don't own anything...not even a name!

Sir...I have asked you twice, if you don't provide me with YOUR license and Registration, I am <going to do whatever it says I can do for not identifying yourself in your local Statutes>

Anyway......

Cop: Papers Please Me: Which one Cop: DL, Ins, Reg Me: I have the reg and ins. (company car) but forget the DL at the DOMICILE (watch the wording here plese) Cop: What is your name Me: Pierre. Cop: Family Name ? Me: I don't have that....the person I happen to have in my pocket have that. Cop: What ?? :D Me: Ok, the government created a person for me 16 days after my birth, is that the NAME you need Mister ?

Next......to be continue (I have no idea what's going to happen ) :D

Muhahahahahah!!!! :D

If I said that, they would think I was a 'Sovereign Citizen' and call for back up. But IDK about Quebec

So is that the calling you spent a couple more days in jail under” Dean Otf Kory jail and a train ride do not seem that far apart from here. It seems to be somewhat ineffective :-P

I find funny, not to say stupid, that some want to pick the worst scenarios to "put to test our knowledge". Try this shit out in a traffic stop? Sounds like a Dean Clifford technique to me. A best and more fun scenario, althought this is not a real proposition (wink wink), would be for someone (never me of course ;) ) to shoot a non-prorouged evil noble in the balls, and watch him bleed to death... While holding the NoM in one hand, and a gun in the other. I'm just sayin'. Thats the way to do it!

The registrar general has signing authority for the name you seek officer...i do not qualify for those bennifits!

Why do you know what they will think, in advance Chris Evan ??

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10202103629532255

This might give you an idea Pierre... :D

Wow wow Dean Otf Kory, in this scenario, I just forgot the DL at home.......that's all...

:D

I don't. BUT, they seem to always want to call me that. 5x now

I can only presume that in the future, they will do what they did in the past.

OK, but I AM NOT STARTING a war with that cop, I just forgot that fucking DL home, and I CALMLY telling him stuff I comprehend....that's all

What is he going to say at this: I think you want the person's name I happen to have Mister......is that right Mister ??

I just need a YES from him on that question, if he says YES, I win....it's that simple

Now, tell me WHY I say I WIN....if he says YES to that question ? :D

Ok...Pete, how do stupid fat losers act when they are asked a question out of their intelligence range? Do they calmly go find the answer, or do they act hostile? In general.....

They're trained to gain jurisdiction. Your efforts are feutile... Bring a blanket

You really don't get it Chris Evan :(

I get it...I am just thinking the worst case possibility!

I will do it, and come back in here with the results.......you guys are not getting it :(

" I think you want the person's name I happen to have Mister"

Now you've given him probable cause to search the vehicle for a body you crazy french bastard... :p

Do cops actually know what the definition of PERSON is???

It will be a FRIENDLY discussion Chris Evan, I won't try to be SMART with that guy, I will stay calm, and just tell him that ooppsss, sorry Mister, I forgot the DL at the DOMICILE....

I'm not calling you a crazy French bastard there but that's what the cop will presume...

Nope!...thats why you should put em on the stand and prove their incompetence!

I will do it :P ......this ain't a big deal

Pierre, these guys are trained that when they hear these arguments to presume that we are Idiots (Idiot: (adj) see Freeman-on-the-land). 'Domicile" "person" etc....

The whole appealing to the rapist thing is going off in my head”

They're trained to believe everything they've been taught is the LAW! They're not trained to understand why. Everything you do outside of their beliefs and procedures will just annoy them and confuse them to the point of "taking you down to the station to ascertain who YOU are"

IT'S NOT AN ARGUMENT CHRIS......fuck :(

I won't argue with him, not even one second....

Fuck you guys do not listen when you read :/

Pierre...I understand what you are saying. I THINK he will TRY to turn it to an argument. How do YOU think he will handle it?

You won't get the chance is the point...

Sounds like your only fear is being detained and held for a hearing...its a good thing if you can stand your ground and get in front of a judge with all the right info!

I just found video of Pierre's next traffic stop using his super diplomatic techniques!

http://youtu.be/2rv9b-9qBIc

I have a doccument that PROVES I am NOT that person....it's not my fucking fault !!! :D

Actually so far you've only failed to produce a license so they wouldn't be too hostile... I got carried away there :p

What judge? There is a guy in costume known as a justice.

Now that's some funny shit right there!

I did NOT even failed to produce a DL Eamonn O Brien, I just forgot it at home.......now that cop will want to know the INFO about that DL, so therefor, he will look for a PERSON to draw that ticket to... right ?

I will supply one to him, no big deal :D

But I will have a YES at that specific QUESTION :P

It's an offence to not carry the license at all times while driving :D

So you say to him....

Pretend I'm the cop :D

go....

(*Remembering my training not to tolerate smart asses and to ascertain who I'm dealing with up front)

...(So you've forgotten your DL...)

"What's your name Sir?"

Pierre.

Surname Sir?

I'll need a full name

I don't have that

Sir, I'll need a full name from you or you will be detained for obstruction of a police officer while performing his duties...

A full name ?? :/ .... I have good reasons to believe that you are looking for the NAME of the person the government dreated for me 16 days after my birth dear peace officer ?

I can supply this for you dear peace officer, if this is what you need !!! :D

Sir your beliefs nor how you arrived at them are of no concern to me. Now as i have stated, give me your full name or you will be detained

Is this what you need dear peace officer ??? :D

Are you looking for the NAME of the person the government dreated for me 16 days after my birth dear peace officer ? if YES, I can supply that info to you on the spot dear peace officer :)

I've told you what I needed and you have failed to comply so I am placing you under arrest for failure to produce a driving license and for obstructing a police officer while performing my duties, now please turn off the engine and step out of the car

"detained" In Mass, they would "arrest" you for that.

Peace Officer ??? :/

(Backup is now at the passenger door because you're a non compliant crazy French bastard)

Arrest me for that ????.... wow !!!....fuck, I am COOPERATE bifg time here :/

Are you looking for the NAME of the person the government dreated for me 16 days after my birth dear peace officer ? if YES, I can supply that info to you on the spot dear peace officer :)

YES or NO ??

Now I am physically removing you from the car and my partner is assisting me while we push you to the ground and cuff you. (This happened to me so I speak from experience)...

Hellosss !!!! PEACE OFFICER ???

Are you looking for the NAME of the person the government dreated for me 16 days after my birth dear peace officer ? if YES, I can supply that info to you on the spot dear peace officer :)

Yes Eamonn, that happened to me as well

Mind your head sir...

Fuck you guys are so fucking filled with bullshit :D

aaand scene...

:D

I'd like to thank my mam, dad, god of course...

Use your brain, and answer that question...

Are you looking for the NAME of the person the government dreated for me 16 days after my birth dear peace officer ? if YES, I can supply that info to you on the spot dear peace officer :)

Be fair...

(Offering you the opportunity to comply 3 times was more than fair)

Do not judge this upon your past experieces....I HAVE a DL, forgot it at HOME.....I am NOT doing the fucking freeman bullshit stuff,

But Pierre that's what would happen. They look at your refusal to comply with them as breaking the law. Your questions are irrelevant...

Are you looking for the NAME of the person the government created for me 16 days after my birth dear peace officer ? if YES, I can supply that info to you on the spot dear peace officer :) YES...officer ?

I JUST NEED A FUCKING YES......he can't say NO, he has to say YES

Do you get this ???? :/

They're not going to enter a conversation at the side of the road about something they don't understand. Their brains have been firewalled.

Well, they will have to bring me in front of a Justice at one point ? YES ??

In answer to your question - "I am looking for your full name"...

Excuse me sir but may I know with whom I am dealing?May I see your identification including your birthday and address? if we are to engage in commerce I need to know with whom I am dealing so I can bill it properly as per the public notice I happen to have right here” It clearly states that I am a legal private entity with specific terms to engage with you. By forcibly engaging me you have accepted the terms of the public notice leaving me no alternative but to pursue this to the full extent of the private contract you have just engaged in by detaining me against my will. We call that kidnapping and if any sort of violence is used , since you are armed that will be attempted murder. Or just take the ticket and remain in honour and administrate it. Ideally if one can keep their head. However they think it is their right to forcibly confine us.. so back top appealing to the rapist thing :-P

It's NOT a fucking conversation Eamonn O Brien.....it's a QUESTION

Are you looking for the NAME of the person the government dreated for me 16 days after my birth dear peace officer ? if YES, I can supply that info to you on the spot dear peace officer :)

NO Bobis Youruncle....NO NO NO

I will STICK to this.......FOREVER :D

Are you looking for the NAME of the person the government dreated for me 16 days after my birth dear peace officer ? if YES, I can supply that info to you on the spot dear peace officer :)

Did you listen to my full audio clip? They detain you until they get a name from you because they'd be liable for fraud if not...

Not that I gave a name or address or signature. Maybe that's why I haven't heard anything further...

OK Eamonn O Brien....what happened when they've asked you for the DL ?....what was you answer ??

I said I wasn't using a dl

In the station I said i possess one

Never said i owned one

Here we go....I won't say that kind of STUPIDITY.....I forgot the DL at the Domicile

I am not REFUSING anything......I just cooperate with him,

Are you looking for the NAME of the person the government dreated for me 16 days after my birth dear peace officer ? if YES, I can supply that info to you on the spot dear peace officer :)

Skinning a cat etc... No mail is good mail so I must have done something right, so far

"If yes I can supply that information"

The answer is no, I want your full name

They're unknowingly forcing you to contract and the worst is they don't know they are nor do they wanna know... :(

And they won't stop til they get it...

My name is Pierre.

*Refer to previous response

That is as full as it can be.....I can't UNDERSTAND why you don't want to answer that question dear peace officer....

Are you looking for the NAME of the person the government dreated for me 16 days after my birth dear peace officer ? if YES, I can supply that info to you on the spot dear peace officer :)

So, you think it is IMPOSSIBLE for me to get a YES at that question Eamonn O Brien ??

Are you looking for the NAME of the person the government created for me 16 days after my birth dear peace officer ? if YES, I can supply that info to you on the spot dear peace officer :)

He won't muse you and ask, Oh what are you talking about sir, that sounds very interesting. I have a lot of time to kill and am very curious to learn more...

They'll hear that question as meaning, Are you looking for someone else?

But who knows how it will go for you... I can't say...

Eamonn O Brien

Are you looking for the NAME of the person the government created for me 16 days after my birth dear peace officer ? if YES, I can supply that info to you on the spot dear peace officer :)

I can prove what I am saying dear officer, I have that proof with me, you want to see it ?? :D

I can't hear you through the cell door :p

They're trained to do a job. If they don't do it they lose their job. That's a fact

He will certainly here you when you invoice him for forcing police services on you without your consent!

Yes Pete” I hear you. I got away without identifying myself and with 2 tickets” at least 9 cop cars and paddy wagons left the scene directly after. I did not know I was surrounded by so many” Vehicle was insured and registered they made the tickets out to that name. Which was not anything to do with me. Liability went to the owner of the vehicle. I was free to go” that is all that mattered to me at that moment as the person given to me to hold at 2 days after its creation in my back pocket has some warrants to be administrated. The cop even said to me”"oh your that tv guy”" it was an odd experience to which in previous encounters I have always been detained. So it was a minor win in my view. I drove way free. I did not have to spend any time in cells or get vehicle out of impound again” I read the public notice and did not consent cop said " it does not matter" and stuffed ticket in my hand and refused my invoice — Live and learn. :-P

Look Eamonn O Brien.....when I make a decision, I evaluate ALL the issues....."If you can't do the time, don't do the crime" :D

If I decide to stick to....

Are you looking for the NAME of the person the government created for me 16 days after my birth dear peace officer ? if YES, I can supply that info to you on the spot dear peace officer :)

I will stick to it, NO MATTER WHAT !!!! :D

Well get out there and try it you crazy kid... :D

Better idea, just don't forget the fuckin thing

I don't care if they give me a ticket or not.....THAT IS NOT THE QUESTION.......

I don't do this to AVOID a freaking ticket, what do I care, I will ask him to draw the BIGGEST fucking ticket he ever draw....

*sigh*

I know why you're asking the question Pierre. It removes surety straight away. All you need is a YES! :D

I can imagine "me", in front of the justice, after 2 days of cage in their station....

Hey judge, Are you looking for the NAME of the person the government created for me 16 days after my birth dear peace officer ? if YES, I can supply that info to you on the spot dear peace officer :)

Muhahahahahahaha!!!!!

Do you guys get this...REALLY ???

For me, I do not like to be detained, so a ticket is the least harmful solution, oddly enough, that can be administrated. No need to put oneself in harms way. I understand that now.

Are you looking for the NAME of the person the government created for me 16 days after my birth dear peace officer ? if YES, I can supply that info to you on the spot dear peace officer :)

Is that a fucking easy question to ask ?? :/

He has to say YES, he have NO CHOICE.....

The implications of a YES answer could be detrimental to the system!

It's all about perseverance at some stage of the game - that's when knowledge is converted into experience. One ought to discharge that account up front before playin:)

If he says yes.....

Ok, Officer, that person is name is PIERRE DAOUST, its domicile is blabla.....it was created on the XX March 19XX, and "me" I was born on the XX Feb. 19XX

Its Inscription number is 119XXXXXXXXXX Its Social Security Number is : 26X-XXX-XXX

I will throw at him ALL that fucking shit, a lot more than enough for him :D

"Are you looking for the NAME of the person the government created for me 16 days after my birth dear peace officer ? if YES, I can supply that info to you on the spot dear peace officer"

Meme? :D

He will draw his ticket, give it to me so I can administrate it for THAT PERSON, I just GAVE to him.... :D

Muhahahahahaha!!!!

Blake Gardner: One ought to discharge that account up front before playin:)

THAT<S EXACTLY IT Blake......that is the exact INTENT....

Fuck, you just wrote my mind... :D

Chris Evan, do you get this ^ :#

Yes - we all are geared for the perfect scenario playin out, however it rarely does and that's the beauty of contract - you gotta have it in you to think on your feet as well as hold your claim...none of my cases every turn out how I expect.

Remedy wise - that is.

Pay then play:-)

We get it Pierre, whether or not you get a YES is the other side of it...

As I say, I am 100% fully ready for that specific EVENT to happen :D

I think I coped alright... We'll see... :D

I have been in there OFFICE often, and NEVE I have been ready as I am now :D

"THE COMMERCIAL STANDOFF"

Oh, did I said.... :D

"Are you looking for the NAME of the person the government created for me 16 days after my birth dear peace officer ? if YES, I can supply that info to you on the spot dear peace officer"

This COUNTER offer rocks !!!!! :D

Yes it's up there with; may I see the bonafide claim or original charging instrument to inspect and execute so the matter can be resolved now.

When I have time I'm going to read this post/thread from the start again it's one of my favourites. I wish Facebook organised posts/threads better.

This is why I said I have a few persons in my pocket, 1, I have the birth certificate, 2, I have the drivers licence, 3, I have the health card: odd thing about that, on the back it even states; " this card is the property of the of the Ministry of Health, and long term care". They are saying that person is their property. 4, the social insurance number, and finally the PAL; possession and acquisition licence ( firearms). I know every time something comes in the mail to any of those, it's a new person.

Doug Lake, I am not sure, but I think :

When they ASK for the person's NAME, they are CREATING on the spot, a NEW person, and attach SURETY to "you" ("YOU" presuming to be the NAME you just gave) .

In other words, when they are CREATING a NEW charge, they are using the NAME (person) you happen to have in your pocket (that thing were meant to do commerce) and create a NEW one, and because you ACCEPT to give the NAME, you are, in their eyes, SURETY.

I hope this make sense :/

If you DON'T give a person's name, there is no commerce possible....but you might end up in trouble with these cops.

I want to try to GIVE the person's name, but I want the cop to say YES to that question....

"Are you looking for the NAME of the person the government created for me 16 days after my birth dear peace officer ? if YES, I can supply that info to you on the spot dear peace officer"

That way, I AM NOT SURETY, the person is, and the person is NOT me, it is the Cop is BOSS creation :D

This cop wants to deal with the person, not "me" the man..... :)

So when I will administrate the charge (debt) this cop CREATED for the person, it will be very effective, for me to be able to supply a VIDEO/AUDIO of the FACT that this cop really wanted to deal with a PERSON, and NOT "me" :D

You can hear in my vid back at the station when she asks, "Now what's your name?"

I said you can call me Eamonn

She said no, no, I want your full name...

And what was your answer Eamonn ? :D

"I don't believe I'm obligated to provide a full name having committed no crime"

No crime = THE COMMERCIAL STANDOFF

A STATEMENT!!!! I am guilty too Eamonn O Brien

OK.... :D

Next time I will say "Am I the subject of the investigation of a crime"?

Yes= who is the injured or complaining party and how have I cause a loss

I said that too at the start of the vid...

No = Am I being detained

Next time, I will say....

Are you looking for the NAME of the person the government created for me 16 days after my birth dear peace officer ? if YES, I can supply that info to you on the spot dear peace officer

Muhahahahaha!!!! :D

Did you guys ever see the guy on Youtube who says "I don't answer any questions"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5HJH872QbE

Yup, he handed over the license first though and I'd imagine his car was all legal

Oh that's a different one

He answered her second q :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwYBshAScmE

This is the right one....The other wasn't the one I was looking for

I've seen that one alright... In the first one the cop said they were investigating a possible juvenile abduction. He maintained his position that he didn't appreciate being pulled over.

There's a messy area there in my opinion. What if he was the one that had abducted a kid and the cops didn't stop him...?

Things that make ya go hmmmm...

His 1st question should have been, "What is this stop regarding?"...

Once he ascertained they were doing real police work he probably would have acted differently...

But, if we let them pull this, they will make shit up. She NEVER identified a complaining party and was looking for someone who MIGHT perform a crime.

Well it's up to us to ask the questions to understand the nature and cause of the process :D

If I would want to really play hardball going all the way with these gangs when "detained", and if I was not going to administrate, nor act as surety, I will become the most idiotic man possible.

They WILL take me in, so it's ok to go full retard.

To me they would be like stranger aliens with a language I cannot understand.

Questions that come to mind: Am I being detained? Am I free to go? Who are you? What do you want? What is licence? What is registration? What is a name? What is a "date of birth"? What is an address? What is a vehicle? What is a citizen? What is identification? What is a police officer? Why are you wearing a weird costume? Why should I talk to strangers? What does "I am going to arrest you" means? Why are you kidnaping me? Why are you comitting crimes against me?

Shit, the way I see it: LET THEM PROVE EVERYTHING!!! I will give them ZERO... or ask "looney" questions. I will not be a witness against ME!

:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aWwbQixez0

The burden of PROOF is on THEM! Let them fabricate evidence all they want. Let them try to attach information from a public document to ME! FUCK THEM! Dont give them peep!

Scott, if that is true, is a new SS# generated for each 'new' PERSON?

A new Secret Service Number?

A new Super Smooth number?

BUY A FUCKING VOWEL! If you want to communicate in Text `Tard acronyms, GO WORK FOR THE FUCKING GOVERNMENT!

Anyone as 'in-the-know' as you knows what that is. Thanks for the belligerance!

THE WHOLE PURPOSE HERE IS IS TO TEACH PEOPLE. THAT MEANS THEY AREN'T "IN THE KNOW".

Belligerence? You don't even know what the word means. It's accurate though. I AM AT WAR WITH YOUR KIND.

Good Faith Notice: I do not maintain the NAME of any PERSON in your jurisdiction, and am not entitled to any rights to any documents of identification you may seek by licence. I provide you in good faith who maintains the BIRTH NAME I am a recipient of and BENEFICIARY protected by your higher powers. Below I humbly and peacefully provide you proof so certified (Vital Statistics Act,section 46.1) who has signing authority for the BIRTH NAME which protects me as a witness. Judith M. Hartman Deputy Registrar General

BANNED!

What is it with Americans?

Why do they think they sound "smart" when they use acronyms?

THAT STUPID YANKEE SHIT says "in the know" like what he has to say is "secret" information! FUCK AMERICANS! Why do you LOVE stupidity?

I even heard his fingers get caught in that!

Kent, the one-way shoot out just happened. One more casualty. I told you.

Are the public not creating a new person by the very act of initiating a liability and addressing that liability to a living man instead of the appropriate estate account? Like a paper cup person, good for one account only:-) There is of course then the favored plausible deniability of incompetence if one of the sheep ever dared protesting the eating of mutten.

In those cases, surety is passed around until the "PERSON" gets it.

That's why NOTICE OF MISTAKE is so effective. It removes presumption.

We get it now.

If only people knew that the potato in their hand is burning hot with unsubstantiated surety, they might then be inclined to return it to the cook. Yes the notice of mistake does the job most effectively, it's also a concise teaching tool in and of itself.

Pierre : "Are you looking for the NAME of the person the government created for me 16 days after my birth dear peace officer ? if YES, I can supply that info to you on the spot dear peace officer :)"

Since a drivers license is property of the govt and you MUST provide their agents with it when they ask for it, I'd add a little something which could quite possibly help trigger the desired YES answer from an unsuspected agent while reducing the risk of being accused of obstruction to their duty or whatever :

So : Are you looking for the NAME of the person the government created for me 16 days after my birth AND TO WHICH NAME THE DRIVER'S LICENSE WAS ISSUED dear peace officer ? if YES, I can DEFINITELY supply that info to you on the spot AND WILL GLADLY DO SO IF IT CAN HELP CLEAR THINGS UP dear peace officer :)

Because that's really all they want to know : THE NAME ON THE DL... Since you're also asking 2 things in that question, answering YES would mean YES to "you want the name of the person the govt created..."

how can i specify that the 'new person' is not the same person?

2 green jellybeans are not the same jellybean, but...

If you give the name/birth date/address, even if you try to play dumb with the capacity, YOU are providing them, YOURSELF, with enough evidence (in their training) to be treated as their bitch.

I guess if you are just getting a ticket, and have no standing warrants, they will just issue tickets/citations for not having the driver license with YOU. If you can live with that, not a bad option.

Yet, every encounter with these psycos is an invitation for potential disaster. I've seen videos of people getting killed in "routine stops" for nothing. Why take the risk?

Or they will arrest YOU, depending on the jurisdiction, like Orlando, Florida.

The NAME means FUCK ME, please. That has been clearly covered at TT4L.

If they ASK me and I have no identification: "My name? Sure! Last name FARLEY. First name CHUCK. Middle initial U."

Ha! :D