Why is it that the inland revenue department of newzealand no longer accepts birthcertificates issued before 1998 is an original not still a lawful document and a remake or reissue is merely counterfiet?
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Scott Duncan
What happened to MONEY 1998?
Nick Gibson
1 and 2 cent pieces were removed from circulation
Pete Daoust
Maybe this ? http://www.rbnz.govt.nz/statistics/exandint/twi/0070606.html
Dylan Carpenter
okay so the value of a birth certificate is regarded as being a certain percentage of the gdb .im sorry if I sound ignorant .but in this country tax is meant to be voluntary and was originaly for land owners.we currently get taxed some of the highest rates in the world .and under our legislation there is no definition of income .to my knowledge I am under common law natural living person not a corporate entity .I have heard I can return or forfiet my ird number is this correct
Dylan Carpenter
any one who wishes not to use there ird number is taxed at 45percent .and the company of employment automaticly deduct this because they adhere and comply to bullshit legislation
Dylan Carpenter
I am sick of being harrassed by soul less entities
Pete Daoust
Welcome on planet earth Catchphraze Hamilton :D, (Why Catchphraze ?) :/
Scott Duncan
Define "Soul".
Dylan Carpenter
to be a living and breathing being who acts on there own accord and who has morals
Pete Daoust
In general usage, a human being; by statute, however, the term can include firms, labor organizations, partnerships, associations, corporations, legal representatives, trustees, trustees in Bankruptcy, or receivers. :D
Dylan Carpenter
ird works for the government and the government works for the reserve bank .they own my strawman so therfore any so called debt that they assume my strawman has accumulated shal be passed on to them.as by registering my birth certificate at birth they are my legal guardian .
Dylan Carpenter
I have heard about becoming a soveriegn and would like to remove myself from the current so called democratic police state that I have been oppressed by
Pete Daoust
Ok.....but why Catchphraze ? :-\
Dylan Carpenter
that is my stage name I am a musician
Nick Gibson
\m/ throw up ya horns!!
Nick Gibson
Bro, you were on the ben hurley and steve wrigley ay? throwin' down the mean Hamiltron freestylz
Dylan Carpenter
yeah bro 3rddegree is our group name .that was mikeD who done the freestyle
Dylan Carpenter
our music topics are mainly politicsl and relevant to whats hoing on in society.still got some mainstream tracks tho
Nick Gibson
Hearty! that was classic cuzzy lol
David Johansen
"any one who wishes not to use there ird number is taxed at 45percent .and the company of employment automaticly deduct this because" because oh i dunno perhaps someone is an idiot? (as most of us are).
Dylan Carpenter
compliance is there goal .tgere isnt enough people willing to stand up against the thieves .
Stuart Stone
Just a thought....look up each of these entities online (Dun & Bradstreet is a good place to start) & you will realise that they are private corporations...then ask yourself: If I don't have a binding contract with these entities, then why and how am I obliged to pay them anything? If you have an ird (probably the same as an NIC in the UK, SIN in Canada, TFN in Australia), then it means you MAY act as a government employee...my question that results from that becomes: IF you are claiming that having an ird makes me a government employee, and that in turn creates a liability & obligation on my part, then YOU must be able to show evidence of my active employee status, via payslips, time sheets, employment contracts etc... I am more than happy to pay you whatever you claim, upon production of these records. However, before I can pay YOU, I think that YOU owe me a bunch of back pay, holiday bonuses, long service leave etc, because I don't recall receiving a pay packet from your office... But first, read EVERY post in here, search for the GOLD...it will take hours, the banter will drive you nuts & you will start to get it & the result? Better questions...Good luck ;-)
Scott Duncan
"morals"? Define please?
Dylan Carpenter
hmm morals to have a conscience empathy etc for fellow man and to benefit the many not the few by actions taken.but for may it is do what thou wilt
Nick Gibson
Aleister Crowley there Catch lol "Morals" What you are told is the right way to act. Imposed ethics of others...
Scott Duncan
So.. Here in reality: Just shit you are making up. You pull a definition of "soul" out of your ass, and attach it to another definition (also rectally inspired) for "morals", and you expect law made by strangers, to comply. ...you're a Christian, aren't you? :D
Gerry Cardinalli
@ Catchphraze... Two years ago the New Zealand Births, Deaths and Marriages Registration Act was changed. ALL Birth Certificates over five years old are now obsolete. They cannot be used. You need to do some more research my friend. There is a 'constitutional con' attached to what your Birth Certificate really is. Firstly, if you look at the bottom of your Birth Certificate it says that it cannot be used as a form of identification. BUT, when you apply for a drivers license, enrol a child at a school, apply for membership at a sports club etc, what do they ask you to present? Right,- your Birth Certificate. They also want a copy of it to apply for a passport. So, whilst the Government issued your Birth Certificate, (after your parents submitted your Certificate of Live Birth, which was then crossed over to Government form #RG142) and they then informed you that it is NOT a form of ID accepted 'legally', why did they then ask for its presentation numerous times? AND - why did you present it knowing it cannot be presented as such? The whole point of the Governments exercise was to generate revenue by 'forcing' everyone to reapply each five years for a new Birth Certificate which states you cannot use it in the way they then ask you to. I refuse to. I was only born once. So I only need that fact evidenced once. Similarly we have had two versions of a 'lifetime' drivers license. I still have my paper one. I simply presented it to a Justice of the Peace whom I knew personally, and asked him to validate a photo I glued onto it as being ME. The JP placed his stamp upon it, signed it and therefore it is legally/lawfully validated.
Pete Daoust
MORAL: The rules of behavior an individual or a group may follow out of personal conscience and that are not necessarily part of legislated law in the United States. Moral law is a system of guidelines for behavior. These guidelines may or may not be part of a religion, codified in written form, or legally enforceable. For some people moral law is synonymous with the commands of a divine being. For others, moral law is a set of universal rules that should apply to everyone. Ethical principles held primarily by the followers of Christianity have influenced the development of U.S. secular law. As a result, Christian moral law and secular law overlap in many situations. For example, murder, theft, prostitution, and other behaviors labeled immoral are also illegal. Moral turpitude is a legal term used to describe a crime that demonstrates depravity in one's public and private life, contrary to what is accepted and customary. People convicted of this crime can be disqualified from government office, lose their license to practice law, or be deported (in the case of immigrants). Passing laws is relatively easy when public policy makers can unanimously identify behavior that is socially unacceptable. Policy makers can then attempt to enforce socially correct behavior through legal channels. However, in many other situations, it is far more difficult to determine what behavior the government should promote, if any. When a government seeks to implement a code of conduct that may conflict with the U.S. Constitution, the courts are generally called upon to determine the law's validity.
Eamonn O Brien
I posed the question to a state department regarding my birth cert and why I need to use it when applying for Government documents i.e. Passport, Driving License... They replied saying it was to prove citizenship, not to ID me, as ID is a result of the production of the BC in the first place. Now, I'd imagine they require it to notify the proper departments that we are applying to benefit from our security and are creating the presumption that we accept surety for the PERSON in relation to whatever ACT/STATUTE provided for the requested documents... :p
Dylan Carpenter
no I am not a christian .I dont believe in fiction
Scott Duncan
Then stop using vague terms and expecting strangers to comply. That's what Christians do.
Dylan Carpenter
I choose not to make assumptions .after all everyone has a mask .just depends which one they may choose to portray at the time
Dylan Carpenter
I consider any one that imposes on my free will as my enemy
Scott Duncan
Those that know me personally may feel free to step in and correct that whole "everyone has a mask" thing being proposed. Never needed one. It's really easy. Stop living for other people and don't lie to those who matter. No "mask" needed. "after all everyone has a mask" - No. You just can't imagine life without one, and you only interact with those who need masks. Those of us who DON'T need masks, don't really want to talk to those who do, so I can see why you've never encountered one. You think wrong and value the wrong things.
Dylan Carpenter
oh you dont need a mask .well in the country I live wich is one of the highest monitored in the so called developed .u best believe if your a rusty nail and stick out to much u will get cut back down.mask on status quos normal mask off sociopath according to the many.u do not know what I value .and I hate everybody equally .
Dylan Carpenter
I hold the loyalty off a dog in higher regard to the value of most human beings .u know they only want to eat and get pats and they depend on you for that.much like dependance on the government but if u stop feeding that dog watch out he will eat you eventualy
Dylan Carpenter
I hold the loyalty off a dog in higher regard to the value of most human beings .u know they only want to eat and get pats and they depend on you for that.much like dependance on the government but if u stop feeding that dog watch out he will eat you eventualy
Scott Duncan
Your questions and statements reveal what you value. This forum doesn't appear to be one of those things. You WILL however, be forced to value the sharp tingling sensation, followed by... BANNED!
Daniel J Wentz
That just never gets old. :D
Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Nope, never... I always feel the tingling as I'm reading it too!
Daniel J Wentz
He writes in Text-Tard! With periods in leu of spaces. I'm amazed he lasted this long.
Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Differing from the "oh crap, I've said something stupid and Scott's yelling at me" sensation... :/
Daniel J Wentz
LOL! He messaged me! :D Conversation started today 01:52 Catchphraze Hamilton Yeah never gets old if your a close minded fukwit with delusions of grandeur 01:54 Daniel J Wentz You're, not your. If you don't like him, nobody is holding a gun to your empty head, forcing you to interact with him.
Scott Duncan
Bonus points for "You're". :D A+, Dan!
Daniel J Wentz
Remember Kids: Think very carefully before you hit that "send" button. ;)
Scott Duncan
I swear, every phrase I speak will be snarfed by somebody else. >:(
Daniel J Wentz
More insightful feedback: Catchphraze Hamilton Yes run and tell thy father u subserviant fool bahaha Perhaps you could explain the flaw in this reasoning, Scott Duncan?
Scott Duncan
You outrank me! How can you be "subserviant"? Or subservient, for that matter? :D
Daniel J Wentz
I didn't even see the `tard-speak! Good eye! :D
Scott Duncan
Yes.
Daniel J Wentz
He's not sending anymore messages :(
Scott Duncan
Was it something you said? :D
Daniel J Wentz
I have such a hard time keeping friends. :( I blame you.
Daniel J Wentz
WAIT! Spoke too soon! 02:12 Catchphraze Hamilton You may think you are intellectualy superior and you may be.but if it came down to survival of the fittest and it was me and you in the room I would rip your face off with no hesitation .how would correct grammar help then. This is so off-base, it's on a footbal field! :D
Scott Duncan
I'd sell tickets to that dance! :D
Scott Duncan
I'm glad your pet chimp came back Dan. :D He clearly wants to engage in an "aggressive bro-mance". I'm very happy for you. :D
Daniel J Wentz
I'd speak my most impecible English, while my kids beat the crap out of him. They LOVED my last stalker. :D
Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Kinda weird he's not messaging you, Scott. Wonder why not?
Scott Duncan
It's important that your children are stimulated, and have ways of expressing themselves! The fact that it improves home security, is a BONUS.
Scott Duncan
Must be something I said, Beverly. :( :D
Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Me thinks he doesn't want a NEW AND IMPROVED asshole to pull shit out of...
Daniel J Wentz
He stopped messaging me :( They don't make stalkers like they used to.
Scott Duncan
I know. The quality diminishes as the decades pass. Stalkers are not made of the same materials and are made with only the low-end components, these days. Face it Dan. The 1980s are gone.
Beverly Berta Braakschmack
They don't make anything like they used to... virgins, stalkers, money...
Daniel J Wentz
I just have to learn to accept that, and have fun, with the low-end models. :(
Scott Duncan
Have you met Beverly Girl-Brain Braaksma, Dan? She wants to make babies with me.
Daniel J Wentz
Yes, I suspected you'd corrupted her. The "Girl-Brain" part, gave it away.
Daniel J Wentz
I have a wife and 2 kids. That fills my life. HOW do you have all these women in love with you? It's like the only constant in my life; Women fall for Scott Duncan, and they don't get up.
Scott Duncan
Nor do they want to. :P
Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Must be Scott's "tingling" personality!
Scott Duncan
Stealing a woman's heart is easy, but they can take it back when they find it's been stolen. Then there's the ones who give their hearts, willingly. Those you get to keep ;)
Daniel J Wentz
So, what do you do with these hearts? Make a stew?
Scott Duncan
*sigh*
Daniel J Wentz
It's a legitimate question.
Scott Duncan
I turn them into weapons and set them loose on the world. :D
Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Gotta say, this thread sure has livened up from its origin!
Beverly Berta Braakschmack
as opposed to the ones that just drip away...
Daniel J Wentz
Holy fuck. You aren't joking, either! Stephanie, Antonella, Lisa, and the list goes on. They'd be weapons all right! :D
Scott Duncan
When you find reality, you become somebody different; Somebody BETTER.If you are in love at the time, it becomes fixed point in your head. It never goes away, and it never hurts... ...at least that's what I'm told from qualified sources. I'll never know. I'm looking at it from the one perspective where I cannot see. I'll never know the heart of a woman, only her mind.
Daniel J Wentz
Well if they are all focussed on you, how will they ever see merit in another man?
Scott Duncan
They don't.
Daniel J Wentz
So, what then? They just pine forlornly for their unrequited love?
Scott Duncan
No, they think and grow! Their minds expand, and they want to "test their wings". They go into a world that doesn't see them coming. They become THEMSELVES. I'm just a catalyst. They pay with their heart, and they do it willingly.
Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Women are the perfect weapons for Scott to create! They are easy to train, genetically inclined to have their way (you guys know this) and in contrast, not pre-injected with testosterone that muddles up thought processes with male-ego shit. That noted by the recent increase in "tingling sensations" typically directed at men...
Daniel J Wentz
No, women's fates are far more cruel. He'll steal their hearts and eat them.
Scott Duncan
And babies? Do I eat babies too?
Beverly Berta Braakschmack
only for breakfast... I'm sure...
Daniel J Wentz
OH YES! Evil, baby/heart eating, domestic paperwork terrorists like you, are renowned for your baby-eating!
Scott Duncan
How the fuck did we get HERE?
Daniel J Wentz
Better weed than the 80's?
Beverly Berta Braakschmack
just to "start the day right"
Beverly Berta Braakschmack
—like he said
Scott Duncan
I hate you all. ...just sayin'.
Pete Daoust
Good thing I was asleep these past five hours :-\
Stuart Stone
Awww c'mon Geoffrey, you've gotta go digging & searching for Gold, you can't always leave the big nuggets in plain view for everyone to find without any work because then no one will value them...it's free information, there's lots of gold hidden in the threads, but if we want the benefits, we've gotta put in the hard yards as well. After all, no one is forcing us to come here & read & learn & no one is getting compensated (financially or otherwise) for the time & effort to provide thoughts & solutions...if you think reading through this stuff is difficult, try reading through legislation & clubhouse rules for remedy & you'll be begging for a bit of innuendo & humour ;-)
Nick Gibson
Question - What is the best thing about being a narcissist? Answer - ME :)
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