May 18, 2013 10:59 PM

14th Amendment 1868?

Yes, Rod covers the 14th a lot. He may speak of it in that episode, I can't remember. If not listen to a few of the shows before and after and he covers it.

Beware: The 14th Amendment is not what enslaves us. That Amendment was to create another class of citizen for THEM; to separate them from us. It's not what everyone thinks it is, and Rod does a pretty good job of explaining this in his shows.

What enslaves us (or attempts to) is the Federal Reserve Note, which we are not even authorized to use; it is an INTERNAL currency, meant only for THEM, but they've forced it on us.

Anyone who takes an Oath of Office surrenders their American Nationality and becomes a Foreign Agent, Employee, Officer, Elected Official of the UNITED STATES.

The 14th Amendment is their "give up my nationality card", and has absolutely nothing to do with you and I, unless we want to become one of THEM ;)

I'll be back later, got to run.

Yup....I agree and understand what you are saying. I will go a little deeper though....The FRN is currency for WASHINGTON DC, and the territories it owns. If we used Gold and Silver, there is no "Income Tax" or any jurisdiction with anything really. But technically, THEY pushed this citizenship on us, so we need to rebut their claim!

To reiterate before I leave: When a person takes an Oath of Office they are relinquishing their National Citizenship and swearing allegiance to the foreign corporation known as the UNITED STATES/United States. That's what the 14th Amendment is all about; it is meant for THEM, and has NOTHING to do with you and I.

On a side point, I don't have stats to back this up, but I think "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" is responsible for more deaths worldwide than any illness/disease, any "crime" etc

When we register to vote, we have secured our 14th amendment citizen status

Subject to the jurisdiction thereof, is a "political allegiance" ;)

What do you mean by that? One who is "Born or Naturalized" is .....

For the sake of brevity, this may help. Now I must leave for a bit so I can't continue this conversation right now.

http://www.dailypaul.com/comment/2539852

Interesting....Ive never thought of it as a "political jurisdiction". I've always thought of it as voluntary servitude....

But I don't disagree...I just need to look into it more

Back for a split second and will be gone again. Per you comment above "When we register to vote, we have secured our 14th amendment status".

This is only PART of the equation. Registering to vote is just a thing you did, like filling out a job application. That doesn't necessarily give them jurisdiction over your life and money. Have you actually sat down with someone and signed into an employment contract with them? Are you receiving pay? Are you receiving insurance, company vehicle, bonuses, dental, etc. like all other officers, employees, and elected officials of the United States?

If they can presume you are an officer, employee, or elected official of their corporation, then it is also safe for you to presume you are getting the same benefits/pay that THEY are receiving, is it not?

Registering to vote is just the job application, now we need to discuss other things if you people want to control my life with your bullshit statutes and tax codes, and those 'other things' are how much am I getting paid? How much is my Christmas bonus? What kind of insurance is your company going to provide? Do I get a company vehicle?

Where did you or anyone sign a contract stating you agreed to abide by their statutes, tax codes, etc. without pay to do so?

Did anyone at the voting registry sit you down and say "Now if you sign this, you are absolutely fucked for the rest of your life"?

Did anyone WARN you of the consequences of that action? Is there a hidden agenda here? Was this an honest and forthcoming contract?

I've never registered to vote in THEIR system and never will. For anyone who has registered, a call to the Secretary of States Office and/or Voter Registration Office might be something to consider.

"Excuse me, I was not aware that I was signing up for a work for free program here; that I was agreeing to abide by your bullshit statutory rules and tax codes, and I have made a HUGE mistake. I want my name off of your registry immediately!"

Of course get this in writing, and you might even file it with the county just to make sure there is no more 'mistakes' when it comes to them presuming you are somehow subject to their jurisdiction.

Contracts are both expressed subjectively and more importantly IMPLIED by CONDUCT and behaviour...