May 10, 2013 8:03 PM

So THAT'S why I can't walk into a bank and ask to buy gold! Not the real stuff anyway. Can "stocks" or "shares" of gold be bought at the Bank of Canada? Maybe if some one wouldn't mind sharing how they know the "stock exchange" exchanges stock, I could understand the world of commerce a little better. Any takers?

You actually posed the best question in the thread;

Joseph Pierre Gilles: got a question here Scott ...what LAw are we talking about ???

Scott Duncan: Whatever law governs the trustee, of course!

Scott Duncan: If you want to buy shit with AQUILAE currency, you can; but the tender for law will be governed by AQUILAE.

Scott Duncan: Governed...like the GOVERNER of the Bank of Canada?

Scott Duncan: Yes Scott. That is why the Bank of Canada has a GOVERNOR.

a fortiori, Scott... you are the GOVERNOR of the AQUILAE Trust, then?

I am.

I am also pretty good in bed, and can cook too.

What law do you govern by?

"What law do you govern by" - It's a dictatorship.

I would've guessed TRUST law...based on the CHARTER of the Aquilae TRUST

Whatever law governs the trustee :/ ????

The Bank of Canada presumably being the TRUSTEE, and the LAW they are GOVERNED by exactly being STATUTORY law?

There is a TRUSTEE act. http://nslegislature.ca/legc/statutes/trustee.htm

i like this section:

Grantor may assign personalty to himself and another

54 Any person may assign personal property by law assignable, including chattels real, directly to himself and another person or persons or corporation, by the like means as he may assign the same to another person.

"...himself AND another" ? :/

...making ME (The grantor [Sovereign] AND (EVERYBODY GET THAT?) another [an organization]).

Now look up the definition of PERSON in the criminal code.

“every one”, “person” and “owner”

— quiconque —, — individu —, — personne — et — propriétaire —

“every one”, “person” and “owner”, and similar expressions, include Her Majesty and an organization;

“trustee”

— fiduciaire —

“trustee” means a person who is declared by any Act to be a trustee or is, by the law of a province, a trustee, and, without restricting the generality of the foregoing, includes a trustee on an express trust created by deed, will or instrument in writing, or by parol;

BY PAROL ????? :/

Beneficiary of the PERSON which is held in the TRUST known as THE GOVERNMENT which is held by the CORPORATION known as (CANADA?)- Not too sure on the corp name...

Took me a while Pierre but I found a Scott quote regarding SURETY -

"So that's today's word, "SURETY". It's something you don't want"

Uhh- what part of, THIS IS THE MONEY is 'GOLD' thread does anybody NOT understand? NOTICE this does NOT say the, 'WHERE EVERYBODY GETS INTO A PISSING-MATCH DEBATING WHO HAS THE BEST ORAL-TECHNIQUES IN COURT TRYING TO OUTSMART THE JUDGE-thread'...please, by all means, feel free to start that thread. Your OWN thread. *long sigh, beginning to understand why Scott hates us all so much*

Oh, btw- get a good look. Now you see it. Now you dont.

I thought it trailed off a bit myself Derek... :p

LMFAO..ya'think?? ;)

Maximiliano Pérez's summary of important points is a great help...

GIVING YOU GOLD HERE!,..making ME (The grantor [Sovereign] AND (EVERYBODY GET THAT?) another [an organization]).

Now look up the definition of PERSON in the criminal code.

“every one”, “person” and “owner”

— quiconque —, — individu —, — personne — et — propriétaire —

“every one”, “person” and “owner”, and similar expressions, include Her Majesty and an organization;

I'll admit, I'm afraid I do not follow that post...Sorry

So its HER majesty and an organization period ?????

Grantor may assign personalty to himself and another

54 Any person may assign personal property by law assignable, including chattels real, directly to himself and another person or persons or corporation, by the like means as he may assign the same to another person.

"...himself AND another" ?

“every one”, “person” and “owner”, and similar expressions, INCLUDE (Which EXCLUDES EVERYTHING ELSE) Her Majesty and an organization;

Now look at what I just said:

,..making ME (The grantor [Sovereign] AND (EVERYBODY GET THAT?) another [an organization]).

"...AND (EVERYBODY GET THAT?) another [an organization]).".... im with Eamonn, this is alluding to exactly.......? :/

AND

AND

..an ORGANIZATION

YOU FUCKING IDIOTS!

A PERSON IS ONLY A SURETY AND AN ORGANIZATION

OMG you are all doomed.

Let me think about it a bit longer for jesus christ crying out loud.....I was ALMOST there.... :(

Scott=Grantor... SCOTT DUNCAN=the organization? :/

:D

PERSON=the surety, AND, an organization?

"...himself AND another" = Derek and DEREK MORAN?

Derek="himself"..... DEREK MORAN=the PERSON(which is a surety AND, an organization)?

What the f**k are we talking about? The sentence was taken out of context it would seem and starts in the middle of it... I'm totally lost... Break time...

No HUMANS in criminal court ????.....unless you reserve ALL RIGHTS ????

fuck my skull is cracking again... :(

so there are TWO components to the PERSON, then? :/

I will go plug in this BIOMETRIC NEURAL NETWORK again and come back with the most accurate stuff possible...back in 5 minutes

Oh fuck I got it Derek Moran......

Pierre in Criminal court....

NON-NEGOTIABLE

I'm the LAWFUL HOLDER IN DUE COURSE OF PIERRE DAOUST, Inscription No.119XXXXXXXX

I’m the SOLE beneficiary of PIERRE DAOUST

I make ALL business decisions for PIERRE DAOUST

At least 51% of my blood is ORIGINAL blood

I LOVE THE MONTREAL CANADIANS

I’m a very NICE guy

I am the MASTER or my PERSON Named PIERRE DAOUST

NO FUCKING STRAWMAN IMPLIED/EXPECTED

And I reserve ALL RIGHTS….all of them”

Is ANYONE have any objections ?????

AND HIS HEIRS

heir (“r) n. 1. A person who inherits or is entitled by law or by the terms of a will to inherit the estate of another. 2. A person who succeeds or is in line to succeed to a hereditary rank, title, or office. 3. One who receives or is expected to receive a heritage, as of ideas, from a predecessor

I don't follow you Beverly May Braaksma :/

A term of art formerly required to transfer complete title (a fee simple absolute) to real estate — This phrase originated in the translation of a Law French phrase used in medieval grants (a lui et a ses heritiers pour toujours "to him and his heirs forever"). See FEE SIMPLE.

Down here in limbo legal tender notes are brought forward to offer a promise to redeem debt Legally A4V...Up there the "Architect" Creates limbo by means of offering a world made of Equitable Titles and surety accounts...Fuck its time to get a totem.

James- WOW...that was fucking DEEP mah man. "Fuck its time to get a totem."..or.."Fuck its time to get a Claim of Right"

You're right Derek Moran....this is so deep that I don't get fuckal...and man, when I don't get it, it's because it's deep en tabarnak..... DESIGNATION, wills. The expression used by a testator, instead of the name of the person or the thing he is desirous to name; for example, a legacy to. the eldest son of such a person, would be a designation of the legatee. Vide 1 Rop. Leg. ch. 2. 2. A bequest of the farm which the testator bought of such a person; or of the picture he owns, painted by such an artist, would be a designation of the thing devised or bequeathed

SYMBOL. A sign; a token; a representation of one thing by another. 2. A symbolical delivery is equivalent, in many cases, in its legal effects, to actual delivery; as, for example, the delivery of the keys of a warehouse in which goods are deposited, is a delivery sufficient to transfer the property

Sorry guys, I have a question, Let say I DELIVER via Canada Post, the KEYS of SFC Inc's warehouse, to TRANSFER all the goods in it, which goods, of course, has no LIEN on it, to ANY other PERSON and/or TRUST.....this would be sufficient to LEGALLY have all this goods transfered....??????? :/

54 Any person may assign personal property by law assignable, including chattels real, directly to himself and another person or persons or corporation, by the like means as he may assign the same to another person.

From 54: Let the person that I am administrating for (through private security agreement between me the man & the person) assign the chattels and or other property to myself (the man) AND a (private) corporation of my choosing...

Isn't that describing the relationship between the 'person' liened into the trust (for example AQUILAE), the grantor of the trust (the man/sovereign/Scott Duncan) & the corporation (Roguesupport Nx) or am I reading more into this (talking out my arse) than is actually there?

HER MAJESTY. You Canadians should re read this one....absolute gold

Awesome Thread!!!

Postal Remittance =a Bill?

Remittance is an instruction for discharge, not a bill.

A financial statment....

no.

Do not add to and/or change what I say.

I choose my words VERY carefully. Do not think you can come up with a "better" answer.

If you think your answers are "better" than mine, you obviously have no use for THIS group...

I'll say it again...

Remittance is an instruction for discharge, not a bill.

I pressed the send button at the same time than you.....if I would have seen your answer first, I would have wait before pressing that fucking button :D

Yes.

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just got a Phd!!!!! Brain Hurt!!!!

Scott Duncan, is that mean when I receive a Bill of Exchange, and I complete it, it is turning that BoE into a remittance ?

So when I finish my duty, we now have a remittance ? (remise)

And would it be fair to say we now have a PAYMENT ? (paiement)

Thanks Pete.

Yes... mostly.

"Payment" isn't actually "legal". remember that.

From Bouvier's online: REMITTANCE, comm. law. Money sent by one merchant to another, either in specie, bill of exchange, draft or otherwise.

I'll remember that, thanks :)

So far, I never called it a payment, on the six remittances I have made for PIERRE DAOUST, I used DEBT administrative procedures, or in French, Processus administratif concernant cette dette....

Making ME the grantor (soveriegn) and EVERYBODY another organisation...then the criminal codes definition of person (notice - not what it INCLUUDES but what it EXCLUDES)...the key is jurisdiction and title. Gold indeed...its like a new BERTH....:)

A BERTH ?...what's that, a lady ? :/

A new admiralty berth via an operation of law - not Bertha:-)

Ha...ok, like when a ship is docking I guess ?

Choosing the right ship is key and/or the right title...

This ship, cargo, berth, admiral stuff is loosing me big time :D

You see, I had the MOTHER as the ship in my mind, how in the fuck I can choose that ? :(

the ship was shanghi'd after its berthing...what flag does it fly? the cargo was thrown overboard and then they salvaged it into their port...

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/criticalmassradioonline/2013/11/05/outside-the-box-open-forum

the ship was shanghi'd after its berthing: shanghi'd....ok, what's that mean ? :(

INVADED ?

Over taken...

Gotta love the cockamaymee-END RUN-WORK AROUND-Quantum Leap-reach for the moon-logic Government uses... :D

So when you use legal tender you are presumed a trustee under the trust law of that particular legal tender...which makes pulling yourself and the person out of the public in place of other buffer/firewall type vessels good sense. The law is determined by the jurisdiction...the jurisdiction is determined by the contract...law=contract.

If you are an Admiral, you have captains with surly crews that have severe emotional issues, looking to "let off some steam", protecting you.

It's lonely and depressing at the top, but it DOES have its perks :D

Yes...the fortress of the helm...and the salty taste of the adversarial bow spray, just another day on the high sea.

RE: Bouvier's definition of "REMITTANCE":

1: What is listed is not "money" (As Derek Moran would gladly point out).

2: Payment is not legal.

Remittance is defined in ACTS now. Look for it there.

'Wise-man' once told me straight-out over the phone: "Money now, is either DEBIT or CREDIT." ;)

Actually- i just did a search on the province's 'e-LAWS' website, and as much as Scott got my hopes up to find it in their Clubhouse Rules, there is NO definition for REMITTANCE that they provide.....but- there was THIS:

Tax payment, NON-LEGAL TENDER

21.(1)A debt due to the Crown under section 8.1 of the Financial Administration Act in respect of a payment OR REMITTANCE under this Act shall be deemed, when the Minister so assesses, to be tax payable under this Act by the taxpayer from whom the payment OR REMITTANCE, and may be collected and enforced as tax under the provisions of this Act, except that the provisions under sections 24 and 25 do not apply to this tax. 1994, c. 13, s. 16.

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/english/elaws_statutes_90r31_e.htm

I couldn't find it down here either.....

Out of curiosity Scott- with you being the Admiral, how many Captains do you have?...minus Pierre, of course ;)

REMITTANCE is a tricky-word, here is what The Dictionary of Canadian Law 4th-edition has to say:

REMIT: v. To send back.

REMITTANCE: n. MONEY which one person sends to another.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/money

I can't find remittance in any of their acts so far, but I did find this definition in the Bank Act interesting; “person” — personne — “person” means a natural person, an entity or a personal representative;

I remember an elementary school teacher telling me I couldn't use the word in the definition! I thought that was proper....

I specifically remember being told in grade-school, that adding an adjective does NOT change the root-meaning of a word; it may make it a COMPOUND-word, but, the root-meaning of a word is NOT changed by adding an ADJECTIVE to it

Here's what Black's Law 9th-edition's definition for REMITTANCE says:

1. A sum of money SENT to another as payment for goods or services 2. An INSTRUMENT (such as a check) used for SENDING money 3. The ACTION or process of SENDING money to another person or place

..this definition seems to deal with BOTH the whole noun AND verb/adverb aspect of this term all-in-one with this definition

All 3 definitions involve MONEY.

In a system where it is literally illegal to PAY, the one who creates a liability must provide the remedy...therefore the remittance (forgiveness). Only thing is they are used to unlawfully demanding money of exchange and in specific specie. Yes, you can accept them (indorse) and return them for discharge BUT you MAY in most cases get some salty spray over the ships bow.

Salty spray ??...you mean the idiotic confusion they try to install ?....ppfftt...that only gives me the opportunity to write more laws :-D

Hey Blake Gardner, what would happen if 10% of Man and Woman stop buying back these debts a.d start discharging them ?

Do you think it would have an effect on something ?

10% more sweat equity would be retained - 10% of the particular national debt would in theory be zeroed. Hypothetically yes but mankind is too far gone imo...they only have one last card to play. And most can see how that is being structured.

:)

I don`t know if this has been stated here in this group yet but gold is no different then money. A value is assigned to both and we accept it with out question . In times where economic uncertainty abound like now days people are told directed to buy gold to preserve their wealth ................Nothing could be further from the truth ........when you buy gold you preserve the class system already in place you ensure that those with more gold will always make the decisions that will effect your life in the future

*than :-P

I fucking hate Derek Moran.

What? It needed to be said!

I think it was implied....

I bet he will end-up either 1- Working as a government agent, and/or 2- He will start talking copyrighted secret stuff, and call undesirable attention.

There is no "secret" stuff.

EVER

NONE OF THIS IS HIDDEN!

I stand corrected, Admiral.

Once again: NONE OF THIS IS HIDDEN!

The only things that make this shit "secret" is programming people to be Piece-of-Shit Christians/Muslims/Jews and thinking imaginary friends are real.

EVERYONE ELSE CAN SEE IT CLEARLY!

I fucking hate Derek Moran.

Oh, hey! I know we all do...

...but for me it's special hate.

TL;DR: I fucking hate Derek moran.