May 09, 2013 9:00 PM

Ya could have corrected my spelling Derek! :p

I considered it.. but i did not want to be accused of the FRAUD OF MISREPRESENTATION/ALTERING SOMEONE ELSE's POST ;)

Chad Brodgesell: I fired off a letter a while back asking the bank to clarify that it was my signature that created the credit to begin with and that on fractional reserve they had already been paid as their balance sheet would indicate and can they please send me a statement of account that was SIGNED by an authorized person. In 2 weeks time they had sold the account to a collection agency, never did get back to me. Not sure what I did was/is right but got them off my back.

Chad Brodgesell: well that was like a year ago, but last week I fired off reg mail to the collection agency for them to produce a valid claim against me and if they could not do so then a charge of $10k for them to keep bothering me. I'll see how it goes.

Chad Brodgesell: This is the problem most of the time. Some stuff works but no one will verify WHAT it is that works.

Now I don't know what this is worth, but, EVERY time I ask for a SIGNATURE from who ever is whatever with me....the door slams shut.

Chad Brodgesell: I did get my former boss to ask the bank who was the GRANTOR of one of his buildings. Next week he told me he didn't want to talk about it.

Derek Moran: CHAD- ask the bank for this: "...for the original instrument of indebtedness in its original form."

Chad Brodgesell: Just asked for A SIGNED document back saying that (in my very fukked up wording) what I said wasn't true. I then found out they sold the account. m, can't say sold, they just called and said the matter had been 'sent' to collections.

So now have a different Corporation calling saying I owe them. Have done a Provide proof of claim on them.

Chad Brodgesell: "ask the bank for this: "...for the original instrument of indebtedness in its original form." is this because they have modified it in some fashion? which would void it? I think/guess?

Derek Moran: "the original instrument of indebtedness," is a promissory note, which considered to be the money you created with your signature.. and yes, they wont want to provide the original because its probably been marked-up from being Fraction-Banked, and evidence the bank has ALREADY been paid.

Chad Brodgesell: so, in essence thru basic general english I asked them to DENY that they already had been paid as soon as I signed,,on the dotted line.?

Chad Brodgesell: They govern these PAYMENTS OF IGNORANCE through an OUTSOURCED THIRD-PARTY. Douglas Levitt didn't come into my home with a gun. Cowards don't do that, and ALL LAWYERS ARE COWARDS. These are strangers who harm people for money. Only cowards choose such a profession. If they wish to inflict violence, they outsource to a third-party, and pay them...

Insert Tax Collector/Collection Agency and Police where apropriate