May 08, 2013 3:32 PM

thanks for the clarification, and gift of knowledge.

You are MORE than welcome !!!

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=u7ofQNLKxu8&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Du7ofQNLKxu8%26feature%3Dyoutu.be

I dunno, i didnt learn anything from this video. All i know he goes on and on and on and on about public laws, statues and blah blah...i almost feel asleep. get to THE DAMN POINT !!!! keeps going on as if ppl are HUMAN BEINGS...ANNOYED LOOK....geez...i cant keeping hearing this.

Lol....you should make videos ChiefRock General...

I'd make videos, but cameras and I don't like each other.

Unless you're behind one :P

" I'd make videos,".... right, you have 'The BigBlueButton' instead ;)

I love the way this guy breaks things down for anyone to understand.

methodical to seep into the brain

Derek Moran: Regarding the above propaganda literature, I reget to inform you that this is still "clubhouse rules". It is LAW FOR THE COMMONERS.

ACTUAL COMMON LAW is:

Don't harm anyone. Don't commit fraud in your contracts. Don't steal/damage other people's shit.

THAT'S ALL. NOTHING MORE.

Stop making shit up based on clubhouse rules.

Good point. And for the public record, i didnt make any of that up, it was simply a cut-paste-job excerpt from that link. I will delete that post then.

This leads to a greater question, if this is what common law simply is;

ACTUAL COMMON LAW is:

Don't harm anyone. Don't commit fraud in your contracts. Don't steal/damage other people's shit.

THAT'S ALL. NOTHING MORE.

..what is considered NATURAL LAW then?

I don't know. It's YOUR BULLSHIT LEGAL TERM, not mine.

"As i understand it, a COMMONER back-in-the-day was considered a BARON and/or NOBLE" - seriously, STOP pulling this shit out of you ass. Commoners were SERFS commissiond for the COMMON WEALTH.

Post one more piece of bullshit "understanding" and you are gone. Seriously.

Best is to have NO IDEA, when you have no idea :/ (shit is that deep....oouuffff)

What isNATURAL LAW?

A rule of conduct arising out of the natural relations of human beings, established by the Creator, and existing prior to any positive precept Webster. The foundation of this law is placed by the best writers in the will of God, discovered by right reason, aud aided by diviue revelation ; and its principles, whenapplicable, apply with equalobligation to individuals and to nations. 1 Kent, Comm. 2, note; Id 4, note. See Jus NATURALE. The rule and dictate of right reason, showing the moral deformity or moral necessity there is in any act, according to its suitableness or uusuitableuess to a reasonable na- ture. Tayl. Civil Law, 99. This expression, “natural law,” or jus naturale, was largely used in the philosophical speculations of the Roman jurists of the Anto- nine age, and was intended to denote a system of rules and principles for the guidance of human conduct which, independently of enacted law or of the systems peculiar to any one people, might be discovered by the rational intelligence of man, aud would be found to grow out of and conform to his nature, meaning by that word his whole mental, moral, and physical constitution. The point of departure for thisconception was the Stoic doctrine of a life ordered “according to nature,” which in its turn rested upon the purely supposititious existence, in primitive times, of a “state of nature;” that is, a condition of society in which men universally were governed solely by a rational and consistent obedience to the needs, impulses, aud promptings of their true nature, such nature being as yet undefaced by dishonesty, falsehood, or indulgence of the baser passions. See Maine, Anc. Law, 50, et seq. We understand all laws to be either human or divine, according as they have man or God for their author; anddivine laws are of two kinds, that is to say: (1) Natural laws; (2) positive or revealed laws. A natural law is defined by Burlamaqui to be “a rule which so necessarily agrees with the nature and state of man that, without observing its maxims, the peace aud happiness of society can never be preserved.” And he says that these are called “naturalLaw Dictionary: What is NATURAL LAW? definition of NATURAL LAW (Black's Law Dictionary) http://thelawdictionary.org/natural-law/#ixzz2TO8oHSSm

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_law

Yes, I just said that. YOUR bullshit LEGAL TERM, covers that, without having to wade in the bullshit.

Seriously. YOU AREN'T IN THEIR BULLSHIT CLUB. THEY DON'T CARE HOW MUCH YOU SWIM IN BULLSHIT, YOU WILL NEVER BE IN THE FUCKING CLUB!

HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO LEARN ANYTHING WHEN YOU USE DEFINITIONS INVENTED BY STRANGERS WITH AN AGENDA!

WHY DO YOU ALL LOVE THE BULLSHIT SO FUCKING MUCH!

THESE TERMS WERE INVENTED TO ACCOMMODATE LAWYERS! LAWYERS HARM STRANGERS FOR A LIVING! THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING ELSE!

FUCK!, WAKE UP! YOU AREN'T AWAKE, YOU'RE ALL "LUCID DREAMING".

WAKE THE FUCK UP!

OMG, you are all SO FUCKING STUPID! I can't dumb this down any further! I am almost in tears as I type this. WAKE UP, OR FUCKING KILL YOURSELVES!

CAN ANYONE HEAR ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes... :/

So, are you saying that the term NATURAL LAW is a MYTH, that was solely invented to benefit and accommodate lawyers meant to harm strangers better to make a living for themselves? NATURAL LAW then is a concocted/contrived term that NEVER existed, no WAY, no HOW? This question is ONLY meant to seek a CLEAR understanding.

IT WAS QUOTED FROM A LEGAL DICTIONARY!

LEGAL Dictionary!

LEGAL... DICTIONARY!

You really are a special kind of stupid, Derek.

ok...I am mouthless :/

LEGAL=CLUBHOUSE RULES! GET IT?

Can I risk a taught here ?

taught... This word you are using. It doesn't mean what you think it means.

Sorry...can I risk a white noise here ?

No. People, NOT YOU read this for CONTENT, and I don't want to spend any more time scrubbing away the shit-stain you make on these threads.

LOL, i thought i cleared this up already, was my post in another language or totally nonsensical ? How can this be spelled out much simpler ? Guys this isnt that hard really, keep it simple.

they grew up on stories scott thats why they love bullshit

Help me Sino! You're my only hope!

Anyway, the ONLY reason I would end-up in court, the way I get it, is by FORCE, unless I have the ILLUSION that I’m part of the CLUB.

ChiefRock Sino General's post was VERY clear. It's NOT written in Sanskrit, like you guys appear to be reading it as.

Now you get it from TWO sides.

ONE LAST TIME: READY?

IT'S ALL ACCOUNTING. THE ONLY LEGAL THING YOU NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT IS SURETY!

That's it. NOTHING ELSE. Any thought generated by that pathetic lump of protoplasm that you laughingly call a "brain", that is not DIRECTLY connected to ACCOUNTING and/or SURETY, is SHIT YOU ARE MAKING UP BECAUSE OF YOUR LOVE OF BULLSHIT!

I did not grew up on stories Will Preach Leeman, I grew up in deep shit, as far as I remember, so your affirmation does not fit with me, so I will cosider it as bullshit.

Why the fuck does it matter what the hell their stupid ass Corporate law says and why are sooooo many so involved with what it says? Why in the hell do you care, i really dont get it. Are you suggesting here and now that you are not able to create your own laws? You are unable or live in so much fear you cower to these damn stacks of paper ? Its all paper, what is there to fear, only ignorance creates fear. I could careless about any statue, act of any so called govt. meh...makes me laugh!!!! what a joke

I really, really love you in a "Bro-Mance" kind-of-way, ChiefRock Sino General! I feel a LITTLE less alone.

Joseph Pierre Gilles was I referring to you? perhaps you have convened a court of assumption or heresay? I do not consent to be governed by bullshit

Well, Scott was referencing to US, in this thread, about loving bullshit, so I INCLUDE myself in US, in this thread, and you came from nowhere saying THEY, so I figured I was part of THEY, so, yes, I think you were refering to ME.

This is how it processed in my brain anyway, and I am NOT a fucking autistic maniac

You assumed I was actually referring to fucktardnation I am surrounded by at the moment sorry brother just on a tangent against said fucktards lol your one of my favorite people on here ;)

you should know by now if I am on the attack I name anyone in the convo thats getting it lol ;)

ok, I taught you were refering to US in here, including me, but Scott might be right again, taught may not mean what I think it means. :/

Joseph Pierre Gilles, look up the word "taught". NOW.

If you were TRYING to say "I THOUGHT", you should know that I will immediately stop reading because you don't know HOW to think, so I can safely assume what follows the words "I thought" will be content-free.

:D

sorry

I would not like to be those who are reading me, AYOYE!!!!!...really sorry about this taught thought thing, what else can I say :/

Now I know, and will certainly not unlearn it

I taught I taw a puddy tat...I did, I did taw a puddy tat! :P

I always wanted that stupid bird pureed in a blender. It's stupid fucking bones liquefied, so it will NEVER EVER SPEAK AGAIN.

Then I want to jerk off on Cowgirl Jesse's face, so she can only sit in the corner of the toybox and cry. She can't wipe my cum off, or I'll find out she's real... then I will make her scream... all she can do as sit and cry, as my, now cooling, jizz runs down her face and into her blouse.

I dripped a few splatters of jizz on her hat too. I always have a few extra drops left for that :D

oh yeah, you should hear the french version :D

Anyway, getting back to serious stuff, you guys need to realize that the most part of where I've learned English is with the Soprano's.

Your mind terrifies me Scott Duncan.

That is FUCKED UP! It's awesome! :D

My daughter has a "cowgirl jessie". :( I'll never get the image out of my head now. :(

Mission accomplished :D

I just killed Will Preach Leeman, post. It was a video saying, the Clubhouse rules say Elizabeth Windsor is not the rightful Monarch. And then a WHOLE PILE of Clubhouse bullshit.

There was some White-Trash guy who is supposed to be the REAL "clubhouse leader", and all the while ignoring the fact that (To quote Scott Duncan) YOU'RE NOT IN THE FUCKING CLUB.

Scott's right. You people LOVE your bullshit! Even bullshit that floats on other bullshit! IT doesn't seem to matter. As long as it's bullshit, you people just LOVE it!

Will reminds me of Phillip Fry when he discovers how SLURM is made. :D

That is profound on many levels. :D

This was all I could find (For those who don't know what SLURM is)

http://youtu.be/KDTAMh0gfPU

"It's still warm" :D

Slowly extends midde finger

if that wa a compliment i resend finger lol

It wasn't :P You keep wallowing in bullshit, even when you KNOW it's bullshit. You just posted bullshit, about Legal Bullshit saying The Monarch bullshit, isn't the CORRECT bullshit.

Drinking slurm even though you KNOW it's shit from a slug.

Get it now?

Wow.

Just, wow.

I see dumb people! They're everywhere! they walk around and they don't even know they're dumb.

fuckin keyboard ..finger not rsended but understood

You use Uber-gay Apple shit, right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz3P0zDh6wc

fuck you guys ood night,dont letthe ass fleas bite

Oh cool! A short-bus field trip...and it looks like I've missed it all :(

Don't worry my love. There will be other `Tard Field Trips!

Hein :-\

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPWcR9lHR4A

Wow!..looks like you watched them all Derek ?... :-D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAKG-kbKeIo

No... you people ALWAYS go full retard. You KNOW you should never go full retard, yet you all seem to do it daily.

Let's flash back to YOUR last "Full Retard" moment!

"Duh, ar u sayin dat the term NATCHURAL LAW (made by people who manufacture bullshit for people who harm strangers with bullshit)... IS BULLSHIT"?

"Duh, it kant bee. I yoozed a LEGAL Dikshunary"

I can't go full retard, that is impossible.

SCOTT...I AM, not the one, who posted the LEGAL DEFINITION, from a LEGAL DICTIONARY, citing a definition for NATURAL LAW. You gave a SUCCINCT, SHORT, CONCISE, and TO-THE-POINT answer in the difference between THEIR common law, and what you termed ACTUAL common law. I just asked basically you to do the same for what YOUR definition would be, the same as you did for ACTUAL common law, for the term NATURAL LAW? *SHEESH*

*Derek-to-Scott* ..what is considered NATURAL LAW then?

Scott Duncan: I don't know. It's YOUR BULLSHIT LEGAL TERM, not mine.

MY bullshit legal-term?.....that doesnt even make any sense. You're IMPLYING i came up/invented the term NATURAL LAW. I DID NOT. I think its been around for quite some time before today.. :P

NO, `tard. They talk about COMMON-LAW, not COMMON LAW.

NOT THE SAME THING. You will fight me at EVERY STEP, it seems, when I tell you to LOOK AT THE WORDS, you want to wallow in MORE CLUBHOUSE BULLSHIT.

Make any excuses you like, but I won't be listening. ALL I EVER DO is tell you to stop with the clubhouse rules.

ONE LAST TIME:

YOU ARE NOT IN THE FUCKING CLUB!

YOU ARE NOT IN THE FUCKING CLUB!

yes i am

Yet you QUOTE FROM THE FUCKING CLUBHOUSE RULES. YOU LOVE THEM. YOU LOVE BULLSHIT. HAVE IT! IT'S YOURS! ALL YOURS! YOUR bullshit LEGAL term.

Prove it Will.

right now?im jut onmyway bed

I have no idea whats going-on right now..... *blank*

If you are in the club, I will use YOU as my first SURETY for my demands of that club, who has broken MANY promises. DO YOU REALLY WANT TO PULL THIS "I'M PART OF THE CLUB" bullshit?

Are you talking to Will, or me?

...because IF I EVER choose to spill blood, it WILL BE RESERVED EXCLUSIVELY for clubhouse members and their families. Yes their families! Theiy benefited from the fraud.

I am in my own club its a very very very fine clubhouse,it is the state known as Master William Edward Leeman the 1st

Fuck it sounds like a movie will peach

Well ponder why I would not give a fuck about your club, whilst you experience a slight tingling sensation, followed by...

BANNED!

:D

Sigh... Here is the problem. Fact one, if "they" want to arrest your ass and put you in a cage they are going to do so if "they" deem you as having violated an Act or Reg. Fact two, "they" will not give a flying fuck if you do not acknowledge their Acts and Regs (but you can likely discuss it with your cell mate who is addicted to percs and needs his methodone and he will agree with you whole heartedly, but not likely be able to pull any strings to get you out) . Fact Three, if you do not know how to navigate yourself within "their" system you may be in that cage for a long time. It does not matter if they are right or wrong - understand that well. When the cop slaps the cuffs on you and hauls your ass to jail you better know your stuff - within "their" system. For anyone who doubts what I have stated, go to the front lines and get yourself arrested for doing something that harms no one, is not a fraudulent contract, and fucks with no ones shit.

NOTICE OF MISTAKE

Ok, Scott..before today, i never imagined there was a difference between COMMON-LAW spelled this way, and, COMMON LAW spelled THIS way. Now i do. Thank you for the information, its hard to imagine that they split-the-hairs with all this stuff as fine as they do but, it is what it is. Forget i ever asked about Natural Law, at this point i dont even wanna know anymore if it actually exists................ :/

Stop using the name THEY GAVE you. Problem solved.

That is WHY you need to examine EVERY WORD I SAY, and NEVER EVER REPLACE IT WITH YOUR OWN SHIT. EVER.

<<----<< SMART GUY

Stop listening to those who are NOT the smart guy. It's simple really.

IT'S ALL ACCOUNTING. THE ONLY LEGAL THING YOU NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT IS SURETY!

That's it. NOTHING ELSE. Any thought generated by that pathetic lump of protoplasm that you laughingly call a "brain", that is not DIRECTLY connected to ACCOUNTING and/or SURETY, is SHIT YOU ARE MAKING UP BECAUSE OF YOUR LOVE OF BULLSHIT!

IT'S ALL ACCOUNTING. THE ONLY LEGAL THING YOU NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT IS SURETY!

That's it. NOTHING ELSE. Any thought generated by that pathetic lump of protoplasm that you laughingly call a "brain", that is not DIRECTLY connected to ACCOUNTING and/or SURETY, is SHIT YOU ARE MAKING UP BECAUSE OF YOUR LOVE OF BULLSHIT!

tattoo ?

Respectfully gents, no cop is gonna give a shit about a Notice of Mistake? And I have given NO name but still been hauled away. In fact it infuriated them further. Your only remedy is to file suit against them for violating your rights because they ARE going to violate your rights, and so is the Crown.

ACCOUNTING and/or SURETY...ACCOUNTING and/or SURETY...ACCOUNTING and/or SURETY = ONLY LEGAL THING YOU NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT

another tattoo ?

Why should you give to a cop a NOTICE OF MISTAKE ?

Why even TALKING with a cop ?

Seriously Pierre; Shut up.

The facts are established right at the scene of the encounter.

I have had several people ask me about suing the government for violating their rights after, as a matter of FACT, they produced their driver's license for the cop. That becomes a real uphill battle.

what if they threaten you

Then they threaten you. That's what people who mean you harm do. Sorry you missed that.

im thinking the surety, the cop threatened you to give the drivers license or he/she will arrest you

You can't give what you don't have.

You still bear the burden of proving your allegations that you produced the license under threat. You bear the burden of proving each and every one of your material allegations necessary to establish your cause of action.

so you recommend leaving the D/L at home. DO NOT carry it around with you at all

Yes, have no license. There is no half way. You are either in or your are out.

so the officer is forced to place you under arrest because you failed to provide identification...out of the car sir

james makes a very good point. it is far easier to defend not produce nor give evidence it exists than to prove duress. or have a PVR handy to record your telling him, you excersise his right to uphold the 5th amendment, accept that fact and to not violate his oath.

I dont know who owns the vehicle, it is non commercial public use.

James Allan: You seem to be under the mistaken impression that POLICE and COURTS are THE SAME THING, and they aren't.

You are correct. A cop can barely read and can't form an original thought. They may arrest you. But after they turn you over to "the system" their job is DONE. Don't want that? Kill them when they try to arrest you, or AVOID THEM.

FUN FACT: A POLICE OFFICER is NEVER a "witness" in court! They are merely INFORMANTS. True story!

Scott Duncan : Agreed, the police and courts are NOT the same thing. I apologize if my words led you to believe I held the contrary position as that would be a mistake. Please foregive me. ;) However, those offices are both created by way of founding authority pursuant to the Constitution Act, 1867. And, both offices require an oath to Her Majesty QE II. Would you be so kind as to elaborate on the distinctions between "informant" and "witness" ? I am intrigued.

I see what you did there...

spell forgive improperly? abuse him good for it, how dare he...

As with everything/everyone here... you miss my point about words and grammar.

He MISSPELLED a word. It was the CORRECT word. It wasn't retarded babbling with the wrong words like "Your not going too go their!", the way the rest of you do.

...and then say "you know what I mean"... It's my RIGHT to be an illiterate moron, and be PROUD of it.

...that's not the same as a typo.

Typing advise instead of advice...>: Typos are bearable, but when people misspell a word that results in a totally different word...

And they don't realise they're doing it...

ME, it's the ABUSE him good part I don't get......do you ABUSE people in here Scott Duncan ??

verb

To mistreat or neglect a person, particularly as to one for whom the actor has special responsibility by virtue of a relationship, e.g., spouse, child, elderly parent, or one for whom the actor has undertaken a duty of care, e.g., nurse-patient; verb

to use an object in an illegal or unreasonable manner

Do you have a special responsibility by virtue over ME ? :D

Joseph Pierre Gilles, are you aware that of all the things you type, you don't actually SAY anything?

No. :/

Maybe I should shut it up ?

That last post is a good example. When you wade through the misspellings, incorrect sentence structure, and just plain WRONG WORDS, and you FINALLY get to a point where the actual point is?

...there is nothing there. Reading what you write, is a lot of work with NO return. Stop posting until you can actually SAY something.

ok

How will I know that I am actually saying something ? I swear that in my head it all make sense :/

Isn't there a "Mavis Beacon teaches French people how to speak a REAL language", or something?

No, only dumbasses here .. sorry :/

A typo that does not materialy effect the substance of the the communication is deemed an irregularity. ;)

Or is it that "A typo that does not materially effect the substance of the communication is deemed at irregularity" ?

*an* lol

I am an irregularity.... :-(

Scott Duncan: Well, your brain doesn't really work that way

You are using MATH when you visualise these things. It's so normal to you, you hardly think about it. That is because MATH is REAL. That is why you can pull an idea from your head and bring it into the real world.

The law enters the real world by the ignorant executing process. It never actually enters the real world. Keep that in mind, and you will master the skill in hours.

..whoa - that is DEEP

Scott Duncan:

Now just remember the RULES. The most important being:

THERE ARE NO HOMONYMS IN LAW THERE ARE NO SYNONYMS IN LAW (Unless defined, of course)

and NEVER presume you know what something means. If a phrase in LAW confuses you, LOOK UP EVERY WORD, EVEN IF YOU THINK YOU ALREADY KNOW.

I was 9 when I learned that. Nothing's changed. It still works. Try it.

Scott Duncan: Let me say that again, to stress clarity: If a phrase in LAW confuses you, LOOK UP EVERY WORD, EVEN IF YOU THINK YOU ALREADY KNOW THE MEANING OF SOME OF THOSE WORDS!

*Will Ferrell to TENDER FOR LAW group*

"The last time i checked..we didnt have 2 law-degrees like Scott Duncan has...so if Scott Duncan says to give him a thread on breaking-down how to avoid a Judge trying to create joinder with you in a courtroom- i think we should give him a thread on breaking-down how to avoid a Judge trying to create joinder with you in a COURTROOM!"..."I GOTTA have more procedures-in-a-courtroom, baby- give me more procedures-in-a-COURTROOM!"

Oh...I just get this cowbell thing :-D

We've been doing the cowbell schtick for 6 months and you just get it now?

Yep :-[

..this is a rather interesting version, Pierre: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG1fKCsnPLk

"It never actually enters the real world." meaning they HAVE to lure you into the world of... make belief [you understand]. No I dont (mr. magistrate), how about YOU courtiously try explaining make believe to me?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_justice

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_bill_of_rights

Derek Moran: ACCOUNTING and/or SURETY...ACCOUNTING and/or SURETY...ACCOUNTING and/or SURETY = ONLY LEGAL THING YOU NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT

Oh, I thought it was Accounting AND surety ? :/