hey guys first time poster. english is not my first language so excuse any spelling and/or gramar errors.
i have a little problem.
I received a couple of months ago a letter from a bailiff claiming i owed road tax for 2011 and 2012. i send a letter back to show me how this law is applicable to me since i don't have a car since 2010.
they ignored my first letter. so i tought i just go to their office to settele this matter.
when i arrived at their office (1 hour biking trip :( ) i saw their office was open from 9.30 until 10.00 am (...)
so i said fuck it i'll write them a email now.
i sent them the email and still they ignored me.
now today they broke into my place to write down what they are going to seize (not much as i don't owe much :D )
my question is what actions can i take now?
cheers
laurent
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Beverly Berta Braakschmack
notice of mistake... its here somewhere
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David Johansen
they broke in to your property? and you didnt shoot at them?
they would consider you owed that based upon the registration. you did return & cancel the registration, and transfer ownership? you you have a copy of a bill of sale, or the return plate receipt?
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Laurent Vah · Laurent VH
yeah i wasn't at home when it happened or i would not have let them in. my car was broken so i contacted a garage (over 2 years ago)to come and take it. i don't have any bill of sale. or the return plate receipt.
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David Johansen
well then I would go to the registry and find out when THEY cancelled the registration. technically YOU owe whatever they are claiming as i would believe their accounting numerology to not be inaccurate.
they have a valid claim against you for acting irrisponsible.
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David Johansen
i dont know what court you have but if the truth be nothing (as in you have nothing they could claim), it is illegal to force a person from being broke (but having a few things) to being a peon. PEONAGE http://blacks.worldfreemansociety.org/2/P/p0888.jpg and to note i did once find in Mass Law somthing to the affect of it being illegal. BUT them taking your lawnmower or other such property may NOT constitute peonage.
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David Johansen
tell them they made a mistake and to send you a valid bill.
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Derek Moran
first things first. are they a 'Crown-appointed' Bailiff... or from a private-Bailiff-company?
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Laurent Vah · Laurent VH
a crown appointed bailiff. appointed by the ministry of finances by the looks of it
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Laurent Vah · Laurent VH
@ David Johansen i already wrote them to let them know but they ignore my letters.
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Shawn Folkes · Shawn Ofthefamily Folkes
Side note?
It IS all about accounting with them...literally.
So...if you DO owe them and have to pay....fuck them up. If your tax is like $200 lets say....send them a properly signed and documented money order...for $201. They will send you a check for the $1...which you dont ever cash...because cashing it completes their ACCOUNTING processes and nothing gets "finalized" til you cash that check, but still shows youve paid and done your end. This was especially useful when I used to get traffic tickets, and prevented loss of demeirt points (you know...that whole brainwashing bullshit where they have you thinking driving is a privilege, not a right, as it is).
So if/when you DO end up paying what you owe, mess them up by overpaying and dont cash the balancing check!
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Danny Maksacheff
so how long till you start invoicing them?
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Derek Moran
remind them of this Laurent:
Grants of Forfeitures.
That all Grants and Promises of Fines and Forfeitures of particular persons before Conviction are illegall and void.
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Laurent Vah · Laurent VH
@ Derek Moran i'll have to see if that applies here in belgium as well
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Derek Moran
http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/
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