Apr 04, 2013 11:34 AM

NO WAY..!!!!....I just can't BELIEVE this...!!! :D

This is the work of the local "oracle" (whom scott is familiar with) who tell people they can stand up in summary court & claim they are sovereign.... despite all the contracts & adhesions hanging out of them like tin cans at a wedding. These days they & the political agenda they push claim " free man is nonsense" In this slave world they wish to continue, of course FREE MAN Ideology is nonsense, they cant exist together. My belief in freedom will never be swayed by these idiots or those of the judiciary. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9txjGNFREQA

You dunno the chap who appeared do you Súil?

Transcripts aren't available for district courts are they?

no dont know him dude,only "beliefs" can be rocked, thats why we have to "know" for ourselves. I'm very aware what the article & interview above has done to many "believers",it has made them think there is only a political solution. Irelands phony republic ;)

The whip is out now, another man in waterford was jailed two weeks ago for i month for an outstanding credit union debt that was actually in dispute !!.

I'd imagine that's a different type of case Pol... Defaulting on an existing contract as opposed to not wanting to enter one in the first place by choice is different...

Actually its the same shit , this individual who is a good friend of mine was going the same sovereign/freeman route.He had all his documentation ready has been looking for full disclosure of the contracts for 3 years now. He was railroaded in court and unlawfully inprisoned. He also reminded the judge of his oath of office and tried to involke his human rights but to no avail !! He is the first here to challenge the court here in waterford and has been doing it for a few years now, really pising them off . since the tourettes judge video appeared on the net the irish court services have been shaken badly and are now lashing back, hence the result in limerick. The crown dont like being questioned or challenged. As i said the whip is out now !!

You have no human rights in a statutory commercial court... Did he record it at all?

soldiers have rights..... the right to do what they're told. In a court martial does it really matter what the soldier says?

what happened in limerick?

Eamon i dont want to say too much here due to privacy issues. !! we were asked to leave our bags phones etc outside and were watched very carefully, as the court were afraid of further recordings. It was a complete setup.

Pol O Se what happened in LIMERICK?

Its Propaganda and FEAR mongering ..I wonder what the COURT TRANS-SCRIPTS have to say about it all....And QUESTIONING the LEGALITY of the PROCEDURE at the beginning serious???, that might have been his shuffle with which he dug his own hole!??? I remember a SUTTON he is/was on DEAN's page I think!

I'd imagine it's a case of guys just not knowing their stuff... Declaring they're a sovereign man ignoring the fact that the status of the security they control is what's in question...

No doubt that public servants acting arbitrarily is to blame also...

If he knew his stuff why did he show up in court anyway? But these FINES they really are fucked up... sort of a WARNING "DON'T FUCK WITH JUDGE ZAIDAN"...!

MAYBE the TRANSCRIPTS can only tell....

I'd love to read them... Are transcripts kept for district court?

I don't know for sure.. I hear conflicting info on that I am sure they keep them unless matters are struck out....Someone said he just went to the office and ordered them he paid ten euro!

I rang them there but they're closed now...

I just noticed the article is 3 yrs old nearly...

what was the recent happening in Limerick any ideas?

I'm not sure... Sure we'll have a google

http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/leader-local/man-charged-over-stand-off-at-limerick-flat-1-4932292

"Trained Garda negotiators from Cork"....

I can imagine, "Aw here come on now.... Quit yer messin Robert"....

No Eamonn, heres how garda negotiators operate in those circumstances http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_John_Carthy

I remember this I was there...they blocked the only two roads available no one could enter or leave...fucking funny inside the square couple of youth were dancing around and chanting shit funny!!

nobody stood trial for that murder because the state, as a juristic person cannot be forced to incriminate itself,gardai on duty are the state. as citizens we give our ability to prosecute on our own behalf away "The AG prosecutes all crime in the name of the people"

I wasn't there i was there in Limerick :-)

who is the AG DPP?

Doesn't sound like it was funny to me Jimbo!

Attorney General, Director of Public Prosecutions

AG= attorney general, her office created the dpp

HANG on I was told Ireland doesnt have a AG?

never just believe what you're told, .... http://www.attorneygeneral.ie/

The office of the Attorney General, legal advisor to the Government but can't answer my question on the default jurisdiction of law in Ireland...

Shit.....

Art. 30 of the constitution ....there shall be an attorney general...

They replied to me stating that as Art. 30 provides for legal advisor to the Government they can't advise private individuals...

@james ball, i wasnt in limerick james, but witnessed similar procedings in waterford recently.

thats one of her capacities but it is also a public office, shes not gonna feed you answers, we have to find those answers put them in affidavit & focus on the acquiescence as proof.

"Default Jurisdiction? is it the same as inherent jurisdiction?

Define inherent jurisdiction...

Inherent jurisdiction Inherent jurisdiction is a doctrine of the English common law that a superior court has the jurisdiction to hear any matter that comes before it, unless a statute or rule limits that authority or grants exclusive jurisdiction to some other court or tribunal. The term is also used when a governmental institution derives its jurisdiction from a fundamental governing instrument such as a constitution. In the English case of Bremer Vulkan Schiffbau und Maschinenfabrik v. South India Shipping Corporation Ltd, Lord Diplock described the court's inherent jurisdiction as a general power to control its own procedure so as to prevent its being used to achieve injustice

in the absense of you maintaining your natural jurisdiction you fall into default, their jurisdiction.

Default; An omission; a failure to do that which is anticipated, expected, or required in a given situation.

a citizen has duties .... & may be capable of rights :p

164. Fair hearing

(4) Without limiting the generality of subsection (3), that subsection does not preserve the validity of the proceeding if the failure to comply with the agreement results in PREJUDICE to the DEFENDANT'S RIGHT to a FAIR HEARING.

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/english/elaws_statutes_90p33_e.htm#BK207