Jan 07, 2013 5:21 AM

This would be where questions go...

you cant be a sovereign and be in debt...

hummmm.... good point

What DOES it have to do with personal Sovereignty? And Can I live without it?

I am genuinely curious as to the correct perspective for both of these questions. Any feedback is as always, greatly appreciated. I value your time as I do my own, thanks for sharing... anyone!

My limited capacity leads me to the following.

"What DOES it have to do with personal Sovereignty?"

--> http://www.royalmint.com/aboutus/policies-and-guidelines/legal-tender-guidelines

... And working off of this (above links example of meaning), it seems the question "Can you live without it?" is a loaded question.

Yes! You can live without it, because you are free to accept OR offer anything you DEEM valuable.

No! You can not live without it, because it offers protection/redress/remedy for your debtor.

Scott Duncan did say at the opening of this thread; "This would be where questions go..."

Well, this is a community! And I always like to read what ALL have to share. :D

It has not been abandoned. Response is SLOW, as I am being hunted by cops. :P

hunted by cops...???....fuk....have you comitted a crime ????

No, but that doesn't matter. They've made one up.

In fact, thats the very definition in The Dictionary of Canadian Law for 'Quasi-Criminal': "...created offences/offences created..." CREATED??..like, "What was lawful yesterday is now illegal today..?"...sounds a little like Inducement or Entrapment, no?

If the govt made a "legal" tender(much like decriminalizing something, how stuff becomes legal?) to be trade, it is created by them. Same as your legal name, created by them, then becomes the surety. They create something and it becomes liable. In that case, all debt on the surety (your legal name created by them) is payable by their surety (created by them)

Scott Duncan:

"THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER

THIS (The NOTE you are reading) NOTE (Still that same NOTE) IS (estoppel) LEGAL (Acts and statutes with the force of LAW) TENDER (An OFFER)

This note offers you LAW, and if you receive the BENEFIT, you have ACCEPTED the LAW."

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/63182_427606390627684_536253580_n.jpg

Legal Tender is coercive. It MUST be accepted to settle debt. In that case, if my credit card statement has a balance of $5000, and I send them a $20 bill and state that this settles the debt, is that legal?

If you go to the grocery store and have $100 worth of groceries and offer a $10 bill, they don't accept and you walk out of the store with all the stuff??

and our BC is on a bank note... legal tender? has to be accepted to settle debt?

*facepalm* It's a coupon that says you are entitled to benefits...like a 10 Dollar bill is.

Bank Notes do that task, so the BC MUST do some OTHER financial service, which you would grasp, if you ACTUALLY LEARNED WHAT MONEY IS. :P

You have no RIGHT to monetize a birth certificate. IT'S NOT YOURS.

I suppose it could settle ONE debt, but then you don't possess it anymore... you see the problem.

Only the GOVERNMENT MUST accept notarized copies, as it is the trust, and you are ENTITLED to. It says so in the BILLS OF EXCHANGE ACT. :P

technically.. the BC is printed on 'Exchequer Bill Paper?'

Im thinking i should write to Rona Ambrose and get a bank-book then so i can at least keep track of the BC's balance.. ;)

Why? it has NOTHING TO DO with you.

"I really MUST invest my only ACTUAL value (time) finding out the current state of money of account (which can only buy OTHER money of account) in the books of some stranger running a trust that has NOTHING to do with you."

Is that what you are saying?

OK, WHY?

..for the same reason you found out yours was $142mil? :/

I already KNEW that. If you lien it, that's what they must pay you, before they can use it again. WHO CARES what they do? Seriously?

For someone who wants "freedom" you sure are interested in the wrong things.

STUDY, don't experiment. You aren't qualified to interpret the results.

Slept on it last night... so the 'receivers certificate' i looked-up in Black's last night.. is really the birth certificate.. they just dropped the 'receivers,' and substituted it with 'birth'...

..explains back-in-the-day why it used to read on the back- REVENUE RECEIPT - (CUSIP-number) - FOR TREASURY USE ONLY

Scott you can accept for value your birth certificate and turn it into a bond !

..doesnt it already have a bond attached to it sitting in either the Bank of Canada or DTCC at 55 Water Street in New York?

WERE YOU NOT READING?

IT IS A TRUST. Please stop using asinine phrases like "bond attached", because that comes straight out of your ass.

YOU ARE THE ONLY HUMAN BEING INVOLVED. THE GOVERNMENT IS THE TRUST. Who will challenge that claim?

Ok, so.. its a Trust Account

The way I see it is the account was opened in your name you can lien the account and turn your birth certificate into a bond , so you can use it to pay all debt !

The way i see it, is that they never in a million years ever thought people would ever catch onto this - so Pamela Wallin can spend an extra $350,000/year travelling as a fucking SENATOR?..so why the hell should i feel guilty about anything? :/

ONLY feel guilt when you harm.

BTW, Charles Moreland is onto something. ;)

They cry poor.. someone dies never claiming whatever the value of their bc was, then.. they go out and blow $700 million on gas-plants they dont build :/

I think i know what Charles was alluding too.. the definition of 'starr' in Black's Law.. the birth-certificate-receipt needs to be DEPOSITED into a LAWFUL REPOSITORY

Kate of Gaia and Santos Bonacci's group cover that stuff alot regarding the bc..

A friend of mine lost in a Court case and was orders to pay $16,000 she did with the BC :)

A friend of a friend said to use Moody's service to check-out your bc CUSIP-number to tell you what its worth..

I almost dont want to know what its worth cuz i know id become consumed by it, but..i also know that i heard that it costs $400 MILLION a year to operate the Senate in this country - what the fuck do they do??

Scott, vould ye please explain to me the difference between MONEY OF EXCHANGE & MONEY OF ACCOUNT. I'm not getting my head around it :(

i think simply, Money-of-Exchange = cash.. Money-of-Account = the credit banks get to legally counterfeit and use to pump-and-dump the stock-markets every 5 years or so

I think money of exchange is the actual money in circulation (cash), money of account is debt (loans/interest/bonds) on books, ie debits and credits.

Money is a measure of value of actual things, goods/services. Money is by which those are exchanged.

If the value is created by thin air, isn't it payable via more thin air?

If you are loaned a "credit" made of nothing, we have to create value to pay it back. Yet there is no equal consideration upon the bank/govt on that value.

They can never be out anything... they never put up anything of value.

MONEY OF ACCOUNT CAN ONLY BUY OTHER MONEY OF ACCOUNT.

MONEY OF EXCHANGE IS able to purchase consumables.

The "value" is irrelevant.

Money is GOLD, however, the Governor General renews the 'suspension' of it every year since 1933, so that they can make the 'hot-air-CREDIT-balloon' rise and as big as possible..for themselves, of course ;)

Value=valuable consideration

Lawful money: legal tender for payments of debts. Paper documents that circulate as currency; bills drawn by government against its own credits.

real money. 1. Money that has metallic or other intrinsic value, as distinguished from paper currency, checks, and drafts. 2. Current cash, as opposed to money on account.

Common law of England

9. The rules of the common law of England, including the law merchant, save in so far as they are inconsistent with the express provisions of this Act, apply to bills, notes and cheques.

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/B-4/page-3.html#docCont

Ok Scott Duncan, there is something here you want us to get about legal tender and what money is. It seems to be all over all of these threads. Could you point us to a book or adequate direction to find the answer to this? Out of the 57 reading, maybe 10 of us dare posting thoughts...

YES WE can live without LEGAL TENDER SCOTT DUNCAN.

What is the CLAIMS TRUE VALUE ?

Sorry my bad. What is the INSTRUMENTS TRUE VALUE?

That's why you can't write cheques everywhere and expect them to be accepted.

3. Usury and any other form of exploitation of man by man shall be prohibited by law.

money is a promise to pay

...just as soon as it's legal to pay, I SWEAR I will.

...I'm good for it. Honest.

Found that in the Bible... :D

J/K

Corporations cannot get credit, only humans can cause we produce... any loans we get, they sell to create more credit for the govt...

That's why my bank schlep doesn't want me to pay off my mortgage... wow

"Corporations cannot get credit" - Um...based on what exactly?

Corporations' only collateral is the people behind them?

Same Question; based on what?

A Corporations' collateral is the VALUE of its shares and invested capitol, girl-brain :P

based on your promissory note

I'm not promisin' NOTHIN'! I'm just holding a share. :P Girl-brain.

A dollar bill is just a peice of paper ,Deposits merely bookentries.Coins do have some intrinsic value as metal, but generallyfar less that face value ! Making them instruments - checks paper, paper money ,and coins acceptable at face value in payment of all debts and for other montery uses. mainly its the people that exchange such money for other finanical assets. and for real goods and services whenever they choose to do so . Money like everything else, derives its value from its scarcity in relationto its usefulness. :)

ROGUESUPPORT can get 5 million cash if it asks. :P

K..Roguesupport I need some to get my home back ;)

Fuck that. I can't account for that shit! The shareholders will FLIP!

I'd never want that place back. I'm just going to bankrupt the building.

JOHN SCOTT DUNCAN is a shareholder. He's also the "Acting Vice President".

The K-Mart method is actually what I'm doing :D

Liens have NOTHING to do with "remedy".

You don't. A Lein is an estoppel Claim. Nothing else.

Speaking of liens - got my PPSA search back today, "NO MATCHES"..or, sorry - NO ESTOPPEL CLAIMS. ;)

Best get one then.

Google-Translator: LIEN in french, translated to english = (you're all going to be shocked) BOND........ LIEN in english, translated to french = PRIVILEGE i.e. 'rights and privileges' ?

Privilege in the sens that if you try selling the thing...the one who have a privilege gets paid first

when one gives some one cash then one is sloughing off some one else's "promise to pay". No one really ever gets paid. The promise is enough to buy what we need for now but what happens when the promise isn't what one wants anymore?

the only signatures on the notes are 2 canadian officers......so i guess that means they are the liable parties

Bank of Canada Officers, not of CANADA.

"The two essential characteristics of tender are an unconditional offer to perform, together with manifested ability to do so, and the production of the subject matter of tender." so the holder of legal tender (value based on a commitment in the future) would bear the holder an obligation to perform?

sure...bank of canada officers.....still is not me

Scott, this just occurred to me.. if LEGAL = STATUTORY, does that mean.. LEGAL TENDER = a STATUTORY INSTRUMENT ?

legal tender n (Economics, Accounting & Finance / Currencies) currency in specified denominations that a creditor must by law accept in redemption of a debt le'gal ten'der n. currency that may be lawfully tendered in payment of a debt, such as paper money or coins

legal tender n. Legally valid currency that may be offered in payment of a debt and that a creditor must accept.

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/S-22/page-1.html

@ cara i am sure that if you hold legal tender you hold a public office , our euros are copywrited , not sure about canada though ,

Rod Class audio talking about just who FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES are supposed to be used by:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70ztDriqeEk&list=PL4E8401DED429D2B8

this is what im struggling with, it appears to me that the money i accept as value is actually an obligation to perform?

accepting the queens shilling, the royal navy held the presumption everybody wanted to join. drunken sailors would be clobbered from behind, wake up aboard the good ship fuckin lolipop with the queens shilling in their hand & pressed into service. PLEASE PUT US OUT OF OUR MISERY SCOTT DUNCAN?

i have to imagine Suil, they still presume the same thing with us... where are you from by the way?

Yes, thats what im getting at. And i think, in their eyes, they would say then- "You accepted our LEGAL Tender. LEGAL = STATUTORY. STATUTORY = GOVERNMENT. Therefore, in a round-about way, i think they would feel, that they have successfully created joinder with us into being government-AGENTS/performing-a-public-function-of-government, if not AGENTS indirectly of THE BANK OF CANADA, therefore, THE BANK OF CANADA ACT they would say applies to us too? Thats the long-version of what i was asking Scott.....

ggee Derek Moran, I was having a blast watching this, and now you are leading me in watching that crazy serious stuff :( https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=HG9paM_3QRM&feature=endscreen

Well...this Chris Rock guy knows about Suerety of the person :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8BtHZWGB8c

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basel_III

what is COMMON EQUITY in plain-english? :/

maybe this Derek Moran ??? http://www.nolo.com/dictionary/equity-term.html

slavery wasn't necessarily colour specific why is it portrayed as if it was? http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-irish-slave-trade-the-forgotten-white-slaves/31076

my goodness, the guy knows a LOT about LAW as well....unbeilevable..:D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKi1ePbpi4c

Derek Moran i just heard a winston shrout interview where he discussed people using postal/post office currency without obligation to the federal Govt, 59mins on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG1lD5Ql1pE

Yes..i was just listening to that interview this afternoon. Check-out the definition for Receiver's Certificate here: http://blacks.worldfreemansociety.org/1/R/r-1001.jpg

winston shrout is inacurate about the irish bail out in that video, i think he may mean iceland but a quick look at iceland shows that has been hijacked by the bankers again.

So Scott- LEGAL TENDER is an OFFER for LAW.. we ACCEPTED their OFFER upon ACCEPTING their TENDER, so.....what is the significance/consequence then as a result of once we ACCEPTED their LEGAL TENDER, in THEIR eyes.....?

We need to give them their CUT or % of what we used...:D

Yes Derek, that is what I've been telling you. It's the NAME OF THE FUCKING GROUP! :P

I know, i know. But upon ACCEPTING their offer, without us realizing it, they then view us as what?.. that we are performing-a-public-function-of-government, that being an AGENT of The BANK OF CANADA in a roundabout way?

No...thats another story.....they see us as using THEIR stuff, so by using THEIR stuff, we accept THEIR terms and conditions, which is: GIVE US A CUT YOUR MOTHER FUCKERS.....

I even suspect them that if you carry more than 10k of these new plastic bills on you, well they can track you and follow you as they wish......but that may be paranoia.....don't take this one as TRUTH...:D

Ok. So now, knowing this, whats the ALTERNATIVE? I go to a bank, with a cheque, i endorse it, the teller starts pulling-out LEGAL TENDER, counts it, then begins to count it out to me on the counter, and not like she'd know what was going-on anyways, but i say to her- "No thank you. I decline your offer of law to give me legal tender, in exchange for my signature..(or something like that)" NOW WHAT? We've never really discussed what the alternative is to DECLINING their offer for THE LEGAL TENDER FOR LAW...... :/

You write on the back of the check: FOR DEPOSIT ONLY...and you go 15 minutes after to take your money.... :D ...or you get paid CA$H or weed or horny woman....

Cash gives you the BENEFIT but no LIABILITY (Your signature is not on it).

Euro's dont state "legal tender" ???

No they don't! Count the signatures now. ;)

What is the difference between CASH, and a BANK OF CANADA NOTE: Depend what you do with it ?? :)

...I'm sure EVERYONE spending Euros will sign for their half ANY TIME now!

...otherwise the Euro is just a fancy coupon.

Ok, now im confused. What is the difference between CASH, and a BANK OF CANADA NOTE that reads THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER.. i thought they were the same thing? :/

When you sign, the tender has been ACCEPTED. THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER is simply PROPER NOTICE (I SWEAR I covered that here, somewhere...)

Holy Fuck, Derek Moran, you are like The Toronto Maple Leafs... you get close and then you choke and lose in the playoff rounds.

If I get paid CA$H and I DISPOSE it to get some stuff...no one other than me knows that....If I get paid CA$H and DEPOSE it into a BANK account, I KNOW this bank is ASSOCIATED with the GOvrnment....so, somehow, they KNOW I used THEIR stuff, then I'm fucked....:D ....so the way I get it, you ONLY go to the bank with checks that has the mention on it: FOR DEPOSIT ONLY.....nothing else....

You get yourself a PREPAID credit card with Derek Lafleur on it, you transfer funds from your bank account to this PREPAID credit card, and you go buy the freaking coffee....:D

Or you could EXCHANGE the funds in your bank account for some other currency....and you go to the money-mart to re-exchange these funds in CDN...Maybe ?????

I can't speak for anyone but me, but I ALWAYS leave the bank with all of the CASH! That's just ... me. :P

Ok, so, make SURE(ty) that i dont SIGN the back of whatever cheque i am bringing to the bank, like i always have in the past. I ONLY print like Pierre mentioned, FOR DEPOSIT ONLY. They DEPOSIT the cheque into my account. *shrugs* Now what? I want to go buy a coffee, but my pockets are empty. How do i go about getting the CASH now that i need to go buy my coffee, without creating joinder with the government accepting their LEGAL TENDER?

You walk to the ATM and withdraw as much as you need...it's your account!

ONLY the ATM?... what if i withdraw it like Pierre mentioned a couple minutes later from the same TELLER?

That works too... but an ATM is safer (legally).

the way I see this is: STAY IN PRIVATE.....all the time, do not sign ANYTHING....do not put the NAME on anything...before doing it...THINK about it and/or ASK questions...

I do always kinda NEED ALL of my cash!

since 3 to 4 months, I check EVERY single move I make....everyone of them.....

Well, i dont know how many of you have done this, but i contract my way into agreements by the retention of whatever i am sending for payment. Money is only a medium of exchange, does it really matter what it is we exchange ? Cash or legal tender notes are nothing more than paper with ink on it and now plastic with ink somehow integrated into the plastic. So, if we take their remittance vouchers and just accept the top portion and fill out the voucher in such a way that it has a signature on it with numbers printed on it and along with the account number. I go ahead and tender this to the CFO or dept that accepts remittance vouchers and send along a notice document that contracts the settlement of the account with stipulations that, retention of the fully endorsed voucher will be observed as acceptance by their conduct. So, in fact they benefited a service and their in-action, which is an action in fact held onto the tender. OR i could and have, sent in a chq in the amounts of 20 dollars and wrote in the memo: payment in full for settlement and closure on acc #12343 and by cashing that chq they are in full agreement that 20dollars settles the 15,000.00. I have done this and thus far no one has ever sent back the voucher. contractually they all agreed. who knows i may be wrong...so far i cleared my credit and debts this way..https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152693156665024&set=a.10151982027160024.874658.510870023&type=1&theater

"... but an ATM is safer (legally)." - avoids a teller from still getting your signature through signing an ALLONGE for them?

If they don't accept your vsluable instrument chief rock, ask for the original back within 3 days otherwise theyve accepted.try to get them to give ye a Receipt for it too. Ye just never know your luck

Pierre. ALWAYS PRIVATE.

Derek Moran, ALLONGE? Please explain for us of the lazy assed clan.

Is it french ALLONGE?

very funny. I have been doing just this with anything I have put into the bank for quite a long time not realizing that there was much legal significance.

If they keep it, its deemed accepted...period

well fuck!...all this time my method has been to cash cheque WITHOUT depositing it into account first (some tellers don't like to do that btw) then I have the cash, and my account reflects NO activity regarding any cheques I receive for my services...this is wrong then?

YES! That's INCOME. If you have a record of having been PAID "income" (your employer) but no record of a DEPOSIT then it's TAXABLE.

If you write FOR DEPOSIT ONLY in the "notes/memo" line of the cheque, then it is NOT taxable. It becomes...a DEPOSIT.

It may be irrelevant...but I have a "private contract" stating "without benefit or deduction" I did not give or use my SIN# either....also no T4 was issued...does this change anything Scott? As I am contracted, not "employed"....??

You should still be ONLY making DEPOSITS!

Stop looking for shit and pay attention to the LEGAL MECHANICS. DEPOSITS are not INCOME. INCOME tax is for INCOME, not DEPOSITS. That is all you need to know.

I wish I knew you this time last year....actually 20 years ago would have been handy also! Haha maybe you could have a look at my contract when I get home Scott...as it may need tweaking also, if that's ok, of course

@ADAM- Black's Law 6th, ALLONGE: a piece of paper annexed to a NEGOTIABLE INSTRUMENT or PROMISSORY NOTE, on which to write ENDORSEMENTS for which there is no room on the instrument itself. Such must be so firmly affixed thereto as to become a part thereof.

Thanks Derek Moran. WoW...Scott, slayin em.

is DIRECT deposit by employer is consider as deposits..????

FORMAL CONTRACT: also called a DEED, in writing and UNDER SEAL by the PROMISOR. If a contract was written and SEALED by the promisor, the formal act of applying a SEAL to the document was seen as evidence of a serious INTENTION to MAKE and KEEP a PROMISE. Contracts under SEAL were the first to be ENFORCED by the courts. A seal is required to enforce a promise if there is NO CONSIDERATION. The existence of the seal indicates that the party signing the document INTENDS to be BOUND by the agreement even when he or she receives no consideration from other parties, as in cases where the PROMISOR is promising a GIFT to someone. This can be important if, as in TAX CASES, it matters that a CONVEYANCE of something is meant to be seen as a GIFT and not something else. It is also usual for the document to be signed by the person who WITNESSED the promisor signing and affixing the seal to the document.

THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER...THIS NOTE IS A LEGAL TENDER OFFER OF/FOR LAW...TENDER A CONTRACT...FORMAL CONTRACT...FORMAL CONTRACT IS A DEED UNDER SEAL BY THE PROMISOR...TWO SIGNATURES (Mark Carney, the Promisor?), and his Deputy (the Witness?)...that Royal Seal with the Lion-and-the Unicorn on it..... so Scott- am i to take away from this, that each individual Bank-of-Canada Note is in itself a DEED also? :/

NO...they are BANK NOTE :D

oh derek, that's steeply resembling the dollar deception

Derek, I think the Legal Offer is for us to USE this "money" (as we don't have any, only USE OF) and being that statutory codes are all based on ACCOUNTING, this is part of THAT OFFER. WE are the PROMISORS (to pay). That's why WE ARE the only ones who can create "money". The OFFERORS equals the signatures on those notes. Scott?

THAT is what happens to our personal Sovereignty for accepting the offer to use this money.

our PERSON is an ACCOUNT

As Scott said while reading over the thread: "It is a Trust"... its the Trust-account, i imagine for the Security of the Person?

Yes but legal tender is a bill of exchange... with bonuses!

I think it was supposed to be for the Security of the Person, hence the SURETY!

You use their money = you are ACCEPTING terms that comes with it. You don't use it.....you're free !

I'd imagine once you only conduct your business affairs in the PRIVATE they can never prove you actually use their money...

The term "under the table" (being paid for goods or services without a public record of it) would suggest that it's a "dodgy deal" one is engaging in when actually it's how it should preferably be done... Governments probably coined the phrase now that I think of it...:p

If FUCKS THE PUPPY buy something from FUCKS THE SLOPPY, and sell it to FUCKS THE DUMPY, it is actualy amazingly fucked up :/

If you touch it you are no longer Sovereign after you have filed the notice of mistake. If you are found with it upon your body or in your home while on land. your under their jurisdiction.

Yes Bit-coin.

FRN's are dual capacity Notes. You can prove lawful money by putting a "Redeemed for lawful money pursuant to 12USC411" notice into your bank file. THEY operate on presumptions. Rebut their presumptions. Yes, to Bit-coin.

now I know why Robert Marnard runs when you ask him what does it mean.

Besides looking up the definition of income, look up "buy and sell" also.

Scott Duncan: James...please shut up about how much your "rate" is. They don't CARE. The SECOND YOU USE THEIR MONEY, you are in THEIR JURISDICTION!

THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER

THIS NOTE IS A TENDER FOR LAW which says none of your fucking RATES mean shit and you are committing FRAUD.

YOU DID NOT WATCH MONEY AS DEBT III. I TOLD YOU ALL TO SHUT YOUR FUCKING PIE HOLES UNTIL YOU WATCH IT! WELL this breaks down the FRAUD....

Scott Duncan: YES! A measure of accounting to gauge FUTURE PRODUCTIVITY. FIAT MONEY OF EXCHANGE (Federal Reserve Notes) IS THE ACTUAL FUTURE PRODUCTIVITY.

Only 5% of the US money supply is this type of money. IT IS THE ONLY ACCURATE ACCOUNT OF A NATION'S VALUE.

It's NATURE is it's value. It cannot be tampered with without IMMEDIATE detection.

so scott, curious. You mentioned that you got transcripts. and you got it from your hard work. How did you pay it?

How are we committing FRAUD ?? Head scratch. I'm missing something here. I hope I don't get another ass reaming from the BOSS by asking the question. I think I've got to watch MONEY AS DEBT 3....NUT SCRATCH...BUTT SCRATCH....

He gave a few bitcoins to someone that gets it for him....fuck you guys have very little imagination :D

Or a prepaid credit card from Japan ?

Or maybe he went there night time with a black suit, unlocked these doors, and photocopied these freaking transcripts....

Lol...lol...lol...larf...larf...larf...hahahahahahaha. Only you could come up with that Pete. :-D

I know :D

i fail to understand how bitcoins involved his hard labour when he just mines it.

Who plugged these freaking servers ?

Meanwhile in MONTREAL....fresh fresh news :D http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2013/06/17/montreal_mayor_michael_applebaum_has_been_arrested.html

The charges include breach of trust, fraud, municipal corruption, conspiracy and receiving secret commissions :D :D

Good. Jewish hey. Why don't that surprise me ?? HANG THE KUNT. WHEN WILL THEY ARREST THAT HARPER DOG??

Meanwhile in the USA~~~Zzzzzzzzzzsnorksnumphzzzzz

you cannot claim to work for them and not work for them it's is

that simple

A buck o five is the price of freedom :-D

just sent this email. . . . . info@bankofcanada.ca

Hi,

What are the terms-and-conditions that go along with my use of the Bank of Canada's legal tender?

Thank you, Derek

Good queztion Derek Moran. Their reply will be ' our terms & conditions are SLAVERY KUNT$$$$$$$...

All the "laws" LEGALLY in force in CANADA is the law being tendered sir. Those "Laws"are your terms and conditions...

...is the right answer.

Of course :-9

..and should the response be?

REVOCATION OF IMPLIED CONSENT NOTICE

?

You always get close to the answer and then once again, you pull shit out of your ass.

Ok, let me lay out how you think wrong. I am going to ask some questions, and you will answer them...lest you feel a tingling sensation, because I've had my share of bullshit concepts for the week.

First: What thought process lead you to believe this shit you pulled out of your ass, was the right answer? Explain in your own words.

*jeopardy music*

what you're saying is- "Just send the fuckin' NOTICE OF MISTAKE!"...?

Hahahahahaha. ...ohhh....

Tingle tingle.....

He believes he must defend himself...

The girl from ipanema dom dom...a doodle doo..doo doo dom dom.....

No, what I am saying is what I am saying. I am not speaking in riddles here. It's not written in sanskrit, or yiddish, and we have already established that you are too stupid to parse data or extrapolate anything.

I will repeat myself again, and I want you to shut off whatever thought process leads you to anything but the answer to the question I am asking.

I WILL ban you for good , if you do not read this very carefully.

I am going to ask some questions, and you will answer them...lest you feel a tingling sensation, because I've had my share of bullshit concepts for the week.

First: What thought process lead you to believe this shit you pulled out of your ass, was the right answer? Explain in your own words.

Sorry Bev...I'm listening to Music....

Woooaaahh.....

Gulp....Derek ??

Ok- since you asked...

Oh fuck no....

First-off...if its an OFFER to contract with us, then WHEN, the HELL, did they EVER, give us the fuckin' terms-and-conditions to read before we ACCEPTED to use their Legal Tender- SECONDLY...

Please Captain. ...keep Derek Moran, on ship. He does add A LOT OF VALUE. ....PLEASE CAPPY !! DON'T BAN HIM !! PLEASE SIR !!

Phew....just in time Derek. Keep on matey....

..WHEN, were we ever given the ALTERNATIVE- LAWFUL TENDER to use, i dont ever recall that...i dont ever recall that being taught to us in school

..keep in mind Scott- i dont doubt for a second anything you've taught us about THE TENDER FOR LAW, doesnt mean i have to accept the surreptitious nature in which they implemented this system- THIRDLY...

Focus....ficus....focus Derek.

even you Scott have stated on numerous occassions- THE LAW, is ALL, about, INTENT...

what was the INTENT 'intended' on THEIR part to implement this system...to be our servants, yet try and subjugate the rights of their MASTERS?

i got a term for that...

its called- INTENT to DEFRAUD

Where is the contract...when was i given full-disclosure- oh, no full-disclosure?...it seems then the INTENT of my servants were to defraud me then..."fraud vitiates all"

So if taxi offers a ride you can presume it's "free", and give a "notice of mistake" in leu of payment? Do you really think that?

Well you didn't make the money either, and it is FIAT currency (which is clear on the note) so SOMEBODY who is NOT YOU is PAYING to create this BENEFIT.

If you use MONEY, you are already bound by the very tender you accepted by using the money.

You don't get to go "my mistake" after.

quite frankly, they're fuckin' insurgents anyways...like Matt Damon said to Joe Pesci in 'The Good Shepherd'- "You're (they're) just VISITING..."

So THAT is what "entitles" you to use "their" stuff and change the rules after?

The LAW, is ALL, about INTENT...THEY knew what they were doing when they SUSPENDED gold as payment back in 1933

And if the LAW, is ALL, about INTENT- then.....WHAT, was their INTENT? Good, or bad?

324 fuckin' people on this page...thats been going since January...a page called THE TENDER FOR LAW, no less...yet I, am the first fuckin' one to have it occur to them that- "Hmm...maybe someone should just ASK the Bank of Canada for once what the terms-and-conditions are for the use of their 'replacement-for-gold'"...and IM, being threatened with being banned??...WTF?

Shhhhh....thats the fun spoiker now.....

Spolier...sieg fails. ..

The fact that you arrogantly believed you knew what "THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER" means does not mean any "intent to defraud" exists. You are just upset that you are stupid.

Don't worry though, everyone else is like that too. Ask everyone you know, what "this note is legal tender" means. They will make all sorts of bullshit up and say bullshit like "what they means to say is..."

Seriously, fuck off with that shit. I'm nearing the end of my oath and I just won't put up with things like that.

I SAY VERY CLEARLY AND CONCISELY, WHAT I FUCKING MEAN! If you imply otherwise, you will be banned for chronic stupidity, as chronic cases are a drain and a burden.

I know exactly what Derek Moran feels.....but there is no place for FEELINGS in this shit....

"Listen-up everybody...as STUPID as Derek Moran is, he is the FIRST ONE on this page after listening to everything ive ever said about THE TENDER FOR LAW, to even have it DAWN upon him, that maybe should INVESTIGATE with the Bank-of-Canada, what EXACTLY the terms-and-conditions ARE for the use of THEIR so-called 'money'!"

If you don't understand something, say that you do not understand, and I will try to dumb it down further, but do NOT EVER try to tell me what I "MEAN TO SAY".

There is no VALUE in feeelllinngss

So therefore...value feelings is value the wrong things...which leads me to think wrong....legaly speaking :-D

SCOTT...this ALL started...because i suggested the title of a NOTICE to send to them

Which came directly from your ass and onto this forum.

Our PERSON is an asset to continue functioning in bankruptcy. They are surety for their assets hence, the terms and conditions.

You guys are lucky I'm with my stupid intelligent phone....with my laptop, I would drum some serious deep stuff on that keyboard

I SIMPLY, suggested, the title, of a Notice, to send to them, attempting to get FULL-DISCLOSURE from out of them...

Why do you think they need to be notified of anything?

General Motors doesn't care if you don't grasp the terms of a rental agreement, and the Bank of Canada doesn't care about your ignorance of plain English.

EVERYTHING is fully disclosed

You will never sell YOUR ignorance as THEIR fraud to ANYBODY. Stop fucking trying! What are all these strangers SO DAMNED IMPORTANT to you?

related to the intent and resulting laws from such intent, contractually speaking, once you use the legal tender, would this not be seen as acceptance of those laws (contract)?

It's all there...black on white....problem is we can't read or too lazy or sleeping

Order-in-Council #16 April 10, 1933, was NOT, intended (there's that word again) to be, FOREVER, when they SUSPENDED gold as money

Yes Gail. Thanks for not being stupid. I've had my fill for the day...

...can you tell?

If you choose to use legal tender, you are bound to the terms and conditions but you have the right to contract within those terms.

The facts are on tge moon Derek Moran......

I'm actually TRULY grateful to those who aren't stupid. Why is that? Why do I feel gratitude when someone with an IQ above the room temperature speaks?

Good call Bev....

Oh fuck.....tears rolling down my cheeks.....

:-D

The Notice of Mistake is a counter-offer...

what helps me was a tip from ChiefRock Sino General..I replace the word "law" with "contract" to help me comprehend, I think there is some programming with the word "law" and doing this helps me to by pass it

No problem Scott, anytime buddy...

BEVERLY- they at LEAST give'ya the fuckin' terms-and-conditions to read over before you open-up an account with a bank. Now the truth is, nobody ever does- BUT, they at least give you them...the terms-and-conditions are 8 to 10 pages long, but again, they at leasy give you them up-front, to sit-down, read over yourself, and decide- "Meh, no thanks...i think ill just use LAWFUL TENDER instead of your LEGAL TENDER"

Tissues ??....Derek ??.....

Lawful currency Derek.

And why would I not ask to modified some of these terms ?

But a TENDER is an UNCONDITIONAL GRANTING, not a contract. The law it tenders is a BENEFIT that you have obligations under.

You can't renegotiate a tender any more than you can renegotiate estoppel.

I don't see the notice of mistake as a counter offer....I see it more a to notify that there is a mistake somewhere....

Ok, you know what - we will see, wont we. We'll see when i go and try and correct the 'honest mistake' of how that NUKE/Birth Certificate was mailed to my parents, and how the Registrar General ended-up with what i should've got instead. We'll see...we'll see how willing they are to go- "WHOOPS...OOps-a-daisy...honest mistake, how'd that happen? Oh, you are right Derek, there was a mix-up in who shoulda got what. No problem, we'll just correct that for you in a jiffy" ;)

...And they all collectively drown in their own self-constructed bullshit. :(

Fuck I really want all of you to die painfully...

OK, I will try ONE MORE TIME...

IT'S A TENDER. YOU ACCEPT, OR YOU DON'T. If you USE it, you have accepted the tender. It says so.

get it....

Same as when my wife tendered me her hand :D

You don't get to "change your mind" when you accept a TENDER, only the offering party can do that.

CASH UP FRONT, OR PAY WITH YOUR CUNT, is a TENDER. You don't get to negotiate later.

I used it... HAHAHAAHAHAAH

Hey Scott Duncan, this CASH UP FRONT, OR PAY WITH YOUR CUNT thing apply to EVERYBODY ?....I mean EVERYONE ???

If you are Male, you should inform your wife/daughter/mother that you intend to do a commercial transaction with me.

Not me, but let say I work for....mmmhhh, oh the Government.....is this apply to me as well :D

The way I see it, when a government agent contact ANY business, it is for commercial transaction, nothing else...

So you must prefer female government agent I would say... :D

I have little use for males. All of them are disposable. This means that any males in my life are far better than you could ever hope to be, so you should probably avoid commerce and/or personal interaction with me.

The whole tender is to DISCOURAGE or get value up front. I win either way.

I'm asking because I've put some signs everywhere in my office and store....

NOTICE

This is a PRIVATE Business If you enter this place, you agree to OUR terms and condition Thank You La Direction

Which leads me to think, that anyone, who enter this place, is indeed, bound by my terms and conditions....

Some customers find it bizarre, but they enter anyway.....I wonder how government agent will deal with this :/

Yes, the Notice of Mistake is not a counter offer, rather non acceptance. It doesn't ASK for proof of claim as counter offer, it states facts that cannot be rebutted and, by AUTHORITY, settles and closes.

...which won't work on a TENDER.

there needs to be a mistake to use the notice of mistake (deep)

So, is it possible that if you use this tender for law ONLY to transfer it to someone else, you have NOT accepted it....just transfering it....(did I really pressed send on this :/ )

dispose, transfer, ....some of these words are making me digging deep in my brain...sorry If I say crazy stuff here :/

You did well. You have accepted the tender for law that applies to its use. That's what LEGALLY facilitates the transfer.

Mistaking, Transering, Disposing, DEFERRING.....fuck is it going to stop ???

we are professional whores of tender?

It's not designed to stop, Pierre. It's designed to GROW.

Yeah, but my head looks like a roman laituce now...

Ya, that's what happens when you form your entire reality based on bullshit. Sorry :(

You have that ability of encouraging other like no one else....it's amazing, no one does it better than you....

fuck that sounds electric to me :D

So, so many always go off topic, that is so annoying. Anyways, what does it have to do with sovereignty ? Absolutely nothing....can you live without it, hell to the yEs motherfucker....Just dont do so well without Water and food. Is it me or do must folks on here have super bad attention deficient disorder and have no ability to really stay solid on one topic ?? It kinda veers off each comment and post....just a thought Hmmmmm... ya...

Scott Duncan. How do you suggest cancelling/trumping/disposing legal tender?

Cara Small Atherton how can you cancel something you dont own or control ? trump ? well, how creative can you be ?

You spend it....all of it, right away.... `D

Justin Moule said it best right-off-the-bat when Scott first started this page: "You cant be sovereign and in debt"...or something to that effect

If it is LEGAL tender does it not apply only to the LEGAL person? Would waving the right to be recognized as the legal person not just take care of that? Does not sweat equity trump legal?

how can anyone say "THEY" are in debt when your not the one on the seas of commerce....a sovereign cant be in debt, or can they ? how does this answer the original question ?

Well first you build another currency. You need to be able to buy food. We can't make/grow everything so you need bank-free currency.

...are you taking notes?

Ok, once you have a crypto-currency, you set up exchanges. Accept ONLY the crypto-currency as payment. Bank currency is something you need when you want to buy anything... no other reason.

What about situations where there is no ability to set up a crypto-currency?

The average man/woman thinks i have $20 in my pocket right now. I would say i have (minus)- $20 in my pocket.

You have value. Dictate the terms.

you can make your own currency easy as drawing on pieces of paper and saying I accept only these specific pieces of paper as payment?

I think the movie 'Brewster's Millions' was trying to tell me something growing-up...

OK....who can know how much Bitcoins I have in my wallet ??...and where they come from ???

I'm just wondering how to keep the books about the Corporation who has to pay me in bitcoins does it....the corp need a wallet too and needs to show in the books that it has to exchange some $$ for bitcoins in order to pay me.... :/

Barter. So what of land? Pretty much everyone has been fooled into thinking they "own" land because they "payed" for it. Can we not claim to be the one holding the land we have put all our sweat equity into for future generations? How does legal tender apply to this area if it is used to acquire land? I am so confused how anyone can simply apply rules when you provided the labour?

IS IT NEGATIVE TRANSACTIONISM?

Got get back the capital or principal

Cara Small Atherton, the LAND is in your PERSON'S name, and your PERSON is government property.....

Sell your land to your CORPORATION, and lien your PERSON with this same CORPORATION, and make you PERSON liening this same CORPORATION for the $$ it owes your NAME for the sale of the LAND.... :D have fun....IN TRUST....

That should look like a spaguetti thing when you're finish with this :D

I don't think making a bigger mess will help at this point in time.

What mess ???

better a mess that provides for you rather than them.

That will fix the mess Cara Small Atherton :/

Yep that's the schniznit baby.....schnitzel time....baby....Cara.....

That's the problem Cara. I don't KNOW what it is to be as you are. I never will.

That answer is just mine, and NOBODY else's (although it is sure to be copied). You barely grasp monetary theory, so I have no answer when you ask what "the rest of you" do.

If you need a view delivered from a position of ignorance, there are lots of Christians on Dean Clifford's page. Perhaps they can help you...

...or you can educate yourself so you CAN leverage crypto-currencies. I cannot see things from your perspective. From this vantage point, you are miles below me, and you all look the same. Just different colours of "wrong".

Uh oh. ..spillage...how we gunna clean this shit up now Cara Small Atherton...? K.I.S.S. :-)

Hahahahahaha. ...inhale.....hahahahahahahahahahah...

Wrong....hahahahahaha.....fuuurrrkkkknnn ffuuunnnyyyyyy

Its a hefffffttyy fuuurkun bill..

Pierre, do you accept Master Card at your business?

Who's gunna chip in their BUCK-0 - FIVE ???

NO

If you do, change Bitcoin for Master Card, and that's how you do the books. It's just a facilitator.

America. ..FUCK YEH.... COMIN TO SAVE THE MUTHAFUCKIN DAY YEH...

When customer wants to pay with credit card, I send them a PAYAPL invoice, and they do it from there...

Oh fuck...I get it.. :/

Hey Cappy. Here's a QUESTION that I am about to pull out of my ass for ye. How do I pay for a Bitcoin with a BoE & does bitcoin represent a BoE. I THINK that by using bc ye are a sovereign tard....are ye NOT??

Same thing. You only need ACCOUNT for the LEGAL TENDER. Buying YOUR currency to pay you is just the cost of doing business.

Daddy & daughter time now all...???????? :-D

:)

That wasn't a question. That was a bunch of acronyms embedded in a sentence that looks like a 7 year old with brain damage, wrote... and then added a question mark.

LMAO !!!!

Yep you know me well then cap'n

Oh fuck...here it comes...tingle tingle...

BoE & Bitcoin = SOVERIGN TARD !!

make bitcoin cheaper than US Dollars

Scott Duncan, the Corp that lien the PERSON for X amount a year, this corp must show a HUGE High credit profile at some point ??

*sigh*. You don'T MAKE a currency do ANYTHING

? :/

oh, freezebee must be here....

you charge less for the services/products you offer if paying by bitcoin and more if the customer is paying with legal tender..is that what you were getting at frisbey?

Fuck....

yes Gail and it's time for me to shut the fuck up

Yes Pierre. He just proposed that we "make" a currency "worth" LESS than a U.S. dollar...

That really is a special kind of stupid.

It starts out with a stupid presumption about the value of currency, and adds a big extra helping of stupid, by de-valuing it by over 1000%.

Mister Frisbey could work for the US Federal reserve... or become a Scientologist... Both take a special kind of stupid to do...

Or go back in jail for another 15 years :D

Sorry I said that... :/

Well....not really sorry, sorry I said I was sorry :(

Make Worth a currency ???....how do you do this ?? :/

BELIEF.

Intrinsic value

Majick Blake Gardner = Fiona gives me a HORNE !!

Is it possible to switch a mastercard debt into Bitcoin Debt? I fucking hate this stupid fucking commercial world. I wish it would DIE!

LOL....that one I could have not thought about it....:-D :-D :-D

There can't be bitcoins debt Cara Atherton....

That's the most powerful side of bitcoins.....you have some, or you don't have some, AND ONLY YOU CAN KNOW IT.....

FUCK! DEATH TO COMMERCE! THAT is MY LAW!

I see it more as life to cemmerce but hey......up to you.. :-\

I am SO frustrated about TRYING SO HARD to be honourable and feeling like the world is some sick play ground set up by bullies. I am fucking CRYING!

Commerce is a good thing, if you have the RIGHT terms and conditions in place.....unless you want to become a dumbtard on the planet....

Just because I don't understand stupid shit doesn't mean I am a stupid shit. I DON"T WANT to keep track anymore in the stupid "loss" and "gain" game.

What is stupid shit ?

You'd best develop a taste for it. It's ALL about accounting. Until you can sustain yourself, you are stuck with accounting.

What if there is enough people and land to sustain themselves in an area and they KICK legal land OUT.

A commune ? :-D

A town. A kanata.

All town have accounting to do

Really? Are you sure about that? Only when a bully steps in and takes more than the rest.

Why can't people just trade and use what is fair? No need for accounting because no one need be held accountable.

I am CRYING because I KNOW the answer to the scenario I propose. I WANT to be WRONG!

No Cara Small Atherton, you actually have all the answers here ask our Cappy. If ye come under Aquillae flag you're numero uno in the WORLD....... CAPTAIN= RESPONSIBLE TO EVERYONE ON BOARD HIS SHIP.....

Supreme Rulet of the high & treacherous seas of COMMERCE .............. <-----------insert oic of Scott Duncan, here.....

Pic....sieg

TRY to imagine what it's like knowing from childhood, what you are just learning now.

Now add having EVERYONE you were supposed to trust, declare you "bad" or "crazy" for daring to propose that its wrong to live in comfort, at the expense of your fellow man.

THEN try warn your fellow man, and get called worse by the likes of Will Preach Leeman and assorted nazis who claim their imaginary friend is the answer. (WE MADE IT UP! I KNOW JESUS IS PRETEND BECAUSE WE [Nobility] INVENTED HIM!)

Imagine a lifetime of people hating you and harming you because you dared say the things you do right now, to the people who could fix the problem.

You don't get to cry, Cara. You aren't qualified to know the sadness yet.

I wish I didn't.

REALITY= DON'T SHOOT THE MESSENGER

Every time a Stupid Nazi Christian, or a slimy weasely Jew, or a smelly violent ignorant Muslim affects public policy, more is taken... infinite circles of idiotic snakes eating their own tails to support the agenda of strangers. There are simply too many, and ignorance is a virtue these days.

Go look on Dean Clifford's page and count the times I'm called "ignorant". This is just a tiny sample of the celebration of stupidity, that is western civilization has become.

People love bullshit too much. they just do. You cannot fight it. I've tried for decades.

Do you think the earth will also loose this battle?

No. The earth will recover once we are gone.

I thought it was possible but I am definitely not qualified for that conclusion. I will not believe you but will be joyful you think so.

Mmmmhhh.. :-(

And I will keep learning.

You DO know that we have only been around for less than 200 thousand years, right?

Well of all the life on earth's billions of years of existence, is extinct, with the tiny exceptions that live today. Earth will be just fine, with or without us.

Sometimes I think I was dropped on the wrong planet. (or maybe it was my head)

Shit do I don't get the imaginary friend part....it dosen't compute in my head....

I think I'll go into fetal position for a while now.

You speak with someone you just met, the guy seems to be intelligent, and suddenly, out of the blue, he says he is a jehova witness.....!!!!...that can be big time disturbing...I JUST CANT FUCKING GET IT.....

You ask him WHY ?....and then, all this intelligence he seems to had, just start to evaporate at speed of light....this is shocking..seriously.!!

Again, that's really cute that you are feeling that... I was nine when I went through this thing you struggle with now, Cara. ... I knew a lot more than you do, too! ...it doesn't help. :(

Only an oath to those who still keep their promises, compels me to be here. You'd never have known me otherwise.

My solution will never be your solution. I intend to harm people when I'm done with this "law" venture. This is 30 years in the making, and you have seen the tip of the iceberg.

I stopped caring a long time ago. I have a baseline hatred for you all. I loathe your celebration of ignorance. I despise the constant demands from positions of ignorance to accept other people's delusions.

I am done with people with half my knowledge and intellect declaring that I am an idiot. It's only true when I say it to them. That's not "arrogance", it's just fact.

Yes being ignorant isn't a nice state to be in, but that does not mean ignorance deserves protection or respect. I will not pander to it anymore.

One day you will be where I am now...or your children will. They might read this and see how silly a lot of you are. I hope they take a minute and think of me being in the middle of it. They MIGHT understand.

Long Live the REPUBLIC !!! This is where the Revolution Starts..

Scott, Captain, "YOU" Sir will ALWAYS HAVE ME AT YOUR BACK...INDORSING EVERYTHING.....T :-D

REVOLUTION= Insert pic of Scott Duncan, here <-----------------------

Jason Moreland, Baahhhaaaahhhahahahahaha....

Indorsed & Accepted for Value Jason Moreland. 100% TRUE & CORRECT.

Dated & time even too.... Look just there <------------

Here's the latest damage the Nazis (Christians) have done.

TIME Magazine used to be a reliable news source, and was often a historical record...

...now it's for lying about atheists. It's all part of the decay. Things that can/do lead to actual knowledge are vilified, while paths to ignorance (Christianity) are exalted.

All I can do is watch.

http://www.examiner.com/article/klein-responds-to-atheists-over-time-magazine-article-still-doesn-t-apologize

Sorry ^ !--------------there.

Fuck how do ye do the arrow kunt of thing pointing down......its important....

Wtf is wordsmith??

Dumb kunt=insert pic of me here <--------------

Lara Croft= HARD ON ON STEROIDS

Believers=DUMBEST MUTHAFUCKAS IN THE UNIVERSE

Therefore making me a SMART BUT DUMB KUNT

Deadly dangerous dumb kunt= insert pic of me here. <----------------

Like a B O S S MUTHAFUCKAS. ...WOOHOO.....

Christian "Values".

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/p480x480/1005877_492408904173468_1317484601_n.jpg

Christian Values =SLAVERY THROUGH DUMB KUNTS THAT DON'T QUESTION.. THEY HAVE NO VALUES BECAUSE THEYRE DUMB. K U N T S.....

Their value is nothing of relevance & importance...

I do enjoy how ye actually call them out for what they truly & TRUTHFULLY ARE Scott.. N A Z I K U N T S...... JESUIT MUTHAFUCKAS.

LEGAL TENDER: The money (bills and coins) approved in a country for the payment of debts, the purchase of goods, and other exchanges for value. [Black's Law Dictionary 9th]

tender 1) v. to present to another person an unconditional offer to enter into a contract. 2) to present payment to another. 3) n. delivery, except that the recipient has the choice not to accept the tender. However, the act of tender completes the responsibility of the person making the tender. (See: offer, delivery)

TENDER, contracts, pleadings. A tender is an offer to do or perform an act which the party offering, is bound to perform to the party to whom the offer is made.

I'm going to show you a magic trick... If it works you owe me $1,000,000... Do you want to see the trick?

That's how I'm understanding it.. :p

jUST SAW ONE FOR FREE IN ANOTHER THREAD....SO i'LL PASS :d

I wasn't aware of Adolf's vocal abilities either Pierre... :D

If I say you owe me a million bucks, and you don't rebut it, it will stand as truth in commerce that you owe me a million bucks after I default you. Then I'll sell the judgment to the mafia to collect it. I'll keep 3% to 5% of the judgment.

Bildo Schmildo, I'll bet you the mafia will ask you WHY I owe you a million bucks, and you better find some real shit to back your claim..... :D

Or you'll see how judgement operates with MAFIA.... HAHAHAHA !!!

It doesn't matter WHY you owe me a million bucks. The FACT that you didn't rebut that PRESUMPTION was all I needed to default you. I now have a judgment in my favor. Silence is equated with agreement.

As Ray Liotta says, "Fuck you, pay me"...

So what would be your FIRST step Bildo Schmildo to get there ? :D

I guess the FIRST step will be to send me an invoice....

What is it you are going to write on this invoice ? :D

Of course, you will add the TAXES on it, an invoice number, the date, your PERSON'S name, my PERSON'S name, the products and/or services you sold to my person.....do you realize all this ????....

And then you will send me a account statment, and then a notice, and then a final notice, and then a default notice.....then you will probably LIEN something my person's owning....

An unconditional offer of performance in order to satisfy a debt. It may be offered to save the party making the tender from a penalty for nonpayment or lack of performance. On the other hand, if the other party should refuse the tender without a justifiable reason, that party may be placed in default. Something offered in order to settle a debt or obligation. An offer put forward in hope of acceptance. Something that serves as a means of payment, such as banknotes or coin (as in, legal tender).

I don't need to itemize, on the invoice, unless you ask me to. Remember, you are remaining silent on the matter. Yes, just like you said. Maybe I will, maybe I won't lien your legal person. Maybe I'll just take the judgment to the postmaster and shut you down completely until the debt is paid.

Billing every 30 days for 90 days~~Proof-of-Claim~~Notice of Fault with Opt to Cure~~Notice of Default and Res Judicata~~ Notary Certificate of Default.

Or maybe I'll go see the cops and ask them to arrest you for fraud..??...And OF COURSE you need to describe something on the invoice...fuck...why do you say that.???...sorry Bildo Schmildo, it does not make sense....I'm sorry....

Are you tendering me a fairy tale ? :D

If you do not contest the bill, you owe it!!

Well, if you don't send me a PROPER INVOICE, there is NO INVOICE

There are scammers out there that do just that. They'll pick a name out of a phone book and bill the person. The person keeps throwing the bills in the garbage. Next thing you know, the poor bastard is looking at a judgment against him because he did not rebut the claim!!

invoice (nvois) n. 1. A detailed list of goods shipped or services rendered, with an account of all costs; an itemized bill. 2. The goods or services itemized in an invoice

I could write out a bill on a piece of asswipe, worded any way I please. If you don't rebut it, I'll own you.

bill 1 (bl) n. 1. An itemized list or statement of fees or charges. 2. A statement or list of particulars, such as a theater program or menu. 3. The entertainment offered by a theater. 4. A public notice, such as an advertising poster. 5. a. A piece of legal paper money: a ten-dollar bill. b. Slang One hundred dollars. 6. a. A bill of exchange. b. Obsolete A promissory note.

If I say the sky is red and green stripes, it stands as truth if no one rebuts it.

And If I say you are out of your mind, I am right :D

Anyway, send me these type of bills if ever you have this crazy idea again A piece of legal paper money: a ten-dollar bill

:D :D :D

Not if I rebut your claim with a verifiable sworn affidavit. Point for point against your claim.

Hey Bildo Schmildo, DO YOU BELEIVE ???????....hahahaha!!!

no, I don't believe.

OK...well do it, sworn out an affidavit saying that you are NOT out of your mind.. :D

And I will still be THINKING that you are :(

You are free to think and believe whatever you want.

Bildo Schmildo: I'm going to assume you are saying all of this to point out the absurdity of the "legal" framework. I don't want to assume you are one of the freeloaders-on-the-land who BELIEVE that shit.

Legal Framework. Yup. Just going through some role playing. That's the insaneness of the legal realm. Fantasyland.

Please be clear. There are Christians reading this forum, and they believe ANYTHING, (They're adults with imaginary friends, after all) so it's important to be clear. Irony is often lost on them.

LOL....

Bildo Schmildo, do you keep your stand when you say, : I don't need to itemize the invoice and/or bill ?

Also, what I was talking about has happened, and will continue to happen, while playing in fictionland. It's all a fantasygame.

OK....show me a proof that this really happened in the reality, the same exact way you tell it....

Do I keep my stand? Sure. I win if you don't rebut it.

OK....show me a proof that this really happened in the reality, the same exact way you tell it...

*drumming figers* ( :D ) I love that thing :D

*jeopardy music* HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

Google it. I no longer have the articles. This was years ago. It's also common practice in the legal land and it's called the Administrative Process. Where you been?

...he knows a guy who knows a guy...

OOPS! Google knows a guy who knows a guy... :D

ok...I have to find the proof now.....same shit happened to me with these income taxes cock suckers..

why is it, everytime someone tells me bullshit, I have to proof them wrong ?? :/

You can take it that way if you like. It was a scam warning I came across about people that did this.

Why it's not THEM that have to prove that their bullshit is not bullshit :/

You SURE you aren't a Freeloader-on-the-land, Bildo Schmildo?

...or just someone who's never found SNOPES.COM? :D

Why not just say: hey....sorry guys, I've missled you in a huge hole of BULLSHIT

Like I just said. They did this as a scam.

WHO ARE these THEY ?????

You might have noticed I have a little hostility toward people who insist on belief, and declare "ignorance" when sources are demanded.

I get to say "google it". You don't.

Citation Please.

Ok, bring out the Maxim that says an unrebutted affidavit stands as truth in commerce> Is there one?

I won't bring FUCK ALL....you bring your stuff, and show it to me...

Like I said Scott. Just doing some role playing. @Pete. This shit is OLD shit. The THEY is the people that were doing it.

And you have NOT said an affidavit, you have said a NON-itemized freaking fucking BILL

Fuck it...I'm out of here....and I will put you in the same spot as this freezebee guy on my side....unless you don't say....sorry guys for the bullshit....you have 2 minutes

Yup. If you accept the bill and remain silent........The affidavit comes later AFTER you have not rebutted anything.

Do it now, Pete. Why wait. I won't apologize to you. You mis-quoted me.

OK fuck you and good luck....

I described the Administrative Process that is "out there" in legal land. That is all.

There's a flip-side to this coin. If one swears-out an affidavit saying someone owes them a Million-dollars, and uh-oh, it turns out not to be true- BUT, you were just HOPING your claim would go UNREBUTTED so you could pick-up a cool MILLION......i dont think FALSE CLAIMS in AFFIDAVITS go particularly well together

As I said... Christians are reading. They believe bullshit (That's what MAKES them Christians). I don't want bullshit spread by some dumb-ass Jesus Jockey and claiming TENDER FOR LAW as the source.

Always write knowing that very stupid Christians are reading. I don't want them spreading any more bullshit/lies than they already do. They are retarded, and you have to write for the retarded.

...if Pierre can understand you, then you've probably dumbed it down far enough. :D Don't hurt yourself by trying harder than that... trust me, on this one.

Absolutely right Derek. Filing a fraudulent claim is not a good thing. But if it goes unchallenged/unrebutted, and the "truth" is not brought to light, then it stands. True? Or no?

Ok Scott. Gotcha.

No. That which can be done, can be undone. If you notify the court that they made a MISTAKE you can start from scratch. Stop focusing on bullshit and fucking "Clubhouse Rules"!

YOU'RE NOT IN THE FUCKING CLUB! I really don't know why you retards are focused on that shit.

Why didn't Pete use that answer? That's the correct one and it took you to answer it.

I'll say it one more time, just to be clear. As you read it, think about the TIME and EFFORT you put into studying this shit. Do you get ANYTHING back from it?

...because you don't get the time and effort back!

So...

One more time...

YOU ARE NOT IN THE FUCKING CLUB! STOP STUDYING CLUBHOUSE RULES!

That's another one that freaks me out...."you miss quoted me"...I haven't quoted fuck all, I just read...read that from the start..."you don't need to itemize products and/or services on a INVOICE......HEEELLLLLOOOOOOOOO !!!....but hey....They did it, I know THEY did it, I have no proof to show, I don't remember where I've got that from, but I know THEY did it.... :/

He even said: I don't know who is THEY, but it must be the one that did it :(

Welcome to critical thought. It sucks, and always pays off.

Ultimately Bildo, one must ask themself in the affidavit-process: "Do i come with CLEAN HANDS?" <----- Maxim-of-Equity.

Ultimatly, Bildo is full of shit....see you later guys...

Lots of assholes out there Derek that do not have clean hands. Again, I was role playing with Pete and he ran off the playing field. Scott had to answer. I was throwing shit at him and he decided to eat it. Failure of critical thinking. He was watching my left hand while my right hand did the dirty deed.

Didn't mean to mislead anyone. That was not the intention.

I know, but Christians MAKE it your intention.

They all have 3 things in common.

They are adults with imaginary friends. They all lie about people. They ALWAYS misread. Usually in the WORST possible way.

...all the while, preaching "love". They are vile creations of the Nobility and they LOVE their slave chains. They defend them viciously. Needless to say, critical thought tends to atrophy under those conditions.

Even if they don't know it consciously, they mean you harm. They are programmed that way. Always remember that.

Fuckin TOUCH….Scott....TOU FUCKIN CH….....GEUVERA..........

:-)

Clean hands in EQUITY.....GOOD CALL Derek Moran. HONOUR........ WORD

Up

Finally i found it.

To an alternative of paying with legal tender, how would you deal with agencies such as special examiners office(yes i'm aware that you said not to even involve yourself in it), but nonetheless its for the child.

The agencies i need to involve requires cash or credit card. I have neither of that. is there ANYTHING else that they would accept without a fuss?

I ask because i have no other way to deal with it and it is at a stand still until this is done.

I do not know where else to put this.

that is 5 minutes of my life I won't get back

slow reader then. It was a question that i didnt know where else to put. And i am trying to find a remedy for this.

You won't. You are already surety.

special examiners office isnt part of the court. its just where you go as a middle ground in order to question and seek clarification.

Also another place i need to deal with is the place where access takes place...Both places are not part of court.

Hope this helps. IF it doesnt, just grunt and mumble something Scott Duncan :)

Is the "special examiner's office" run by a friend you trust?

Here... I'll answer for you. i have better things to do then wait for your non-answer.

Scott: Is the "special examiner's office" run by a friend you trust?

Derek Hill: Duh.

Scott: Hmm... is that a NO?

Derek Hill: Duh.

Scott: I see. So not someone you trust. Do you do business privately with them?

Derek Hill: Duh.

Scott: No huh? So the COURT sent you to these strangers then, and stated they may "examine" you?

Derek Hill: Duh?

Scott: Remind me again how you don't have surety?

Scott: Is the "special examiner's office" run by a friend you trust?

Derek Hill: No.

Scott: Hmm... is that a NO?

Derek Hill: Duh.

Scott: I see. So not someone you trust. Do you do business privately with them?

Derek Hill: Yes Since its their own private business. People just went there for their services and used it for court. That is how the court found out about them and started referring people to go there to help avoid trial.

Scott: No huh? So the COURT sent you to these strangers then, and stated they may "examine" you?

Derek:No. Special examiners officer is there so i can question the applicant/respondent whichever it may be so i can seek clarification and establish a statement of facts. All answers are given under oath. I read up a lot of cases with other fathers that questioning was enough to settle.

Keep digging for that nugget Derek. I will support you 100% of the way but you won't even ASK me a question regarding your child non access Order. How many payments with cash will they accept?? In GOOD FAITH GIVE THEM WHATEVER IN FIATS FOR THREE EASY PAYMENTS to the Value of.....

Then Buck-0-five bomb the bitches

I hope yoy haven't admitted to them that you received & read the child order in court or before a judge have you derek??

Just ho & see your child.....fuck...how hard is it??

Go...sieg

Has your ex an intervention or restraining order against you for farting in her general direction has she Derek? ?

Was your mother a hamster was she Derek? ?

Just keep on shovelling Derek. You'll get there. If you believe it or not. But you will. TRUST ME ON THAT.YOU WILL GET ACCESS TO YOUR BABY BOY....Eventually. ......

But

Youve actually read the dud cheque order out to them in their courts havent you Derek ? I now see your dilemma...hmmm........ Is the child on the intervention order Derek? ?

Duhh....silence = yes adam, my boy is on the order

Do something to create CONTROVERSEY in their courts but do not commit ab act of violence or threats or damaging property.....just ho & see your boy let her make the claim & argue in court whose a bigger kunt you or your ex kunt....that's when judge goes "hmmm...these two aren't adults theyre kids & should rightfully be treated as such"....what about the best interest of the child ??

Just ASK the kunting judge this one ; How is this in the best interests of the child??

The Wisdom of solomon in their Bible. READ IT DEREK HILL....THEN USE IT AGAINST THEM KUNTS.

ASK THEM THREE TIMES.

Thats 3 fucking times Derek. I crow three times coz I'm the fucking ROOSTER KUNTS......GET IT ??

In good faith Derek. 3 easy payments. Me= rooster=COCK=72 HOURS =3 DAYS=JUDAS=ASKED 3 TIMES TO GIVE UP THAT JESUS KUNT=HE GAVE UP THE JESUS KUNT EVENTUALLY= JESUS NAILED TO CROSS BECAUSE OF JUDAS GIVE UP KUNT=KUNT= JUDAS

ThreeEee is the magic number.

Going once

Going twice

Going three times

& sold to that cockhead looking kunt right there

Threeeeeeee my lucky number. And fortuuuuuuuuune comes in threeeeees.

Song sung by tracy thorne (massive attack)

Yes...you reading this...kunt....no wrong kunt....my mistake I apologize....forgive me kunt.. Kurt says; oh...ok...we forgive you..... here forgive my cock for raping you with.

Night y'all. ..or Gday. .or....

Soon I'll have the courage, to leave my thoughts behind. I'll give back all the knowledge, and keep the wisdom precious in my mind.

thanks, cara, do you happen to have some thoughts you can share for my predicament?

Derek Hill, kindly befriend me. FB has me blocked.

Derek, my unsolicited suggestion is to work through your own stuff and find a solution with your ex by putting your son first...relying on outsiders (ie the court or anything associated) is giving up your own power and can be more costly then you taking responsibility.

Deal with your own hurt and anger you have towards her and for the sake of your child come to a private agreement. It may be the more challenging route to take, but in the long run it will be the most beneficial to your child.

only thing is i cant talk to her, restraining order...bs

sounds like there is alot to work through then. A restraining order doesn't stop you from working through your own baggage, but it will be to your benefit when you finally do get contact with your son. Friend me if you want to talk more about it :)

Sorry Derek Hill, but my transcript of our conversation is more accurate.

You did not CHOOSE to do business with them. They are a SERVICE. The GOVERNMENT is NOT a person, and only a person can pay. YOU have surety, no matter what delusions you pull out of your ass.

Your "remedy" is wait until your child is 18. The end.

That's what you get for knocking up skanks. PRETENDING I'm not right, doesn't really change any of the factors.

This is why I have NO interest in assisting you in ANY way. You've never listened before. You make shit up. You focus on the wrong things whenever I tell you ANYTHING and you create this fantasy-world of non-reality, and get confused when things don't go the way you think they should.

SO, let's make the conversation accurate again!

Scott: Is the "special examiner's office" run by a friend you trust?

Derek Hill: Duh.

Scott: Hmm... is that a NO?

Derek Hill: Duh.

Scott: I see. So not someone you trust. Do you do business privately with them?

Derek Hill: Duh.

Scott: No huh? So the COURT sent you to these strangers then, and stated they may "examine" you?

Derek Hill: Duh?

Scott: Remind me again how you don't have surety?

And yes the COURT sent you. At no time do people "Shop around" for a "special examiner".

I think I realize the truth of this whole thread when I was 9 years old and my mother and father got divorced

but by all means Derek hill please continue in the lesson of why I hate the establishment of marriage and belief

"At no time do people "Shop around" for a "special examiner". ...this comment is actually fucking GOLD for my own situation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0qm0KUPeD8

Scott what transcript. if it's our skype call can you send it to me

Remember that "no interest in helping you" thing I mentioned in the previous post?

...refer to that.

Ok scott, you mentioned before about liening the child.

Is there anything specific that i need to know in procedurally.

Can this be done at any time? With or Without "custody"? Does your LLC lien it or do you?

Derek H. What is a NEWSPAPER USED FOR?? Here's your very valuable lesson because there is GOLD to be found in it...yep that nugget of poo....... Look up the LAW NOTICES in your NEWSPAPER. READ THEM ALL....& ALL THE VERY BEST TO YE.. YES Derek, I too stuck my dick in crazy with a SKANK too.............

Jason F. LeBlanc: So that's the big deal..... That is one big benefit of sovereignty.

The ability to create credit. Wow!

! Its good to be the King!

Scott Duncan: Yes...SO BE A FUCKING KING!

Beverly Girl-Brain Braaksma: Sovereign - Authority which you are your own of...

Scott Duncan: Seriously though, you are living in a universe, that by its very nature, is trying TO KILL YOU.

We are on a tiny rock, in a thin magnetic field, and beyond that is a universe that you will DIE if you are actually there. Down here on the surface it's not much better.

Homo-sapiens are NOT by any stretch of the imagination "sovereign". We need to cooperatively sustain ourselves, because as animals go, we kind of suck. No fur/horns/spikes/sharp talons, to protect us... Just a soft tasty snack for anything with a spine, that eats other things.

What level of "sovereign" do you think you can achieve alone?

I for one would die without Tara, my crew, and my trustees and officers. I REALLY DO serve them, because they REALLY DO make my life in EVERY MEASURABLE WAY, better than the majority.

...but I'm NOT "sovereign" by ANY stretch of the imagination. I need them. They seem to need me. So, no sovereignty for Scott Duncan.

Scott Duncan: THE HELL I AM. (to Fiona)

I cannot be free when people and vessels rely on you.

http://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/currency_15197.htm

LOL Derek. I have been asking them about 12 USC 411 (which is what you link is about) since June! I have asked all the way up to the Treasury Dept. I sent a registered mail, returned receipt on Aug 8 to the Treasury asking that very question. Of course I asked my commercial bank first, then the FedRes first and they blocked me by dancing around it, then when requestioned stated "they feel they have answered that question". As of today, I have not received the Green Card back yet. I checked the tracking number and saw that it had been "received". Still no answer!! My next step will be administratively get a summary judgement and assert my intent!

..just occurred to me - THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER = NO personal Sovereignty

If you are having to LABOUR for THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER, or DEBTSLAVE NOTES as WhiteRabbit-guy puts it, then you are NOT free/sovrereign - and how could you be...you're LABOURING to pay BILLS in order to be able to CONTINUE your EXISTENCE being ALIVE inside this FICTIONAL-system on this LIVING planet

Wow...that is deep Derek Moran :-D

its the glue of the matrix

Personal Sovereignty = Creditor. LEGAL TENDER = Debtor.

Kings are not Debtors. Kings are Creditors!

yep

..interesting that they add an 'a', changing it from "THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER," to, "TENDER OF PAYMENT...is A legal tender"

Legal Tender

8. (1) Subject to this section, a tender of payment of money is a legal tender if it is made...

Statutory Instruments Act

(3) The Statutory Instruments Act does not apply to the policy.

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/c-52/FullText.html

Plausible deniability addition...for not telling you there are other options of discharge. Muhahaha

creditor= have pen will discharge.

debtor= have this note is legal tender and will struggle to pay.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/creditor

Debtor

One who owes a debt or the performance of an obligation to another, who is called the creditor; one who may be compelled to pay a claim or demand; anyone liable on a claim, whether due or to become due. In Bankruptcy law, a person who files a voluntary petition or person against whom an involuntary petition is filed. A person or municipality concerning which a bankruptcy case has been commenced.

Nice Blake- what was that Led Zeppelin album, 'In Through the Out-Door?' ;)

Signed, 'Out Through the In-Door'

The deliberate mirror confusion of today's society...

This note is legal tender mean this is a tender for contract offer for contract.

When we use it to trade for stuff then we become subservient to the authority that wrote it

Yes we can live without it there's Bitcoin and bartering ect

the answer to. the tender for law. is what money is.

I accomplish this in less than 7 months so there's that

And the administrator for another's property, namely the owner of the notes, ala hidden adhesion contract/social compact. Of course they would never disclose this, therefore your enemy IS your remedy...

I am the captain of my vessel. and I hold superior claim to all others. I'm holder in due course. my only right is to not contract.

I am Number one

" And the administrator for another's property," > trustee de son tort

Jeff roggers has no surety attached to it so it is the property 100 percent. Of H.I.V.E.CORP Holds the trademark to that name

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYOKVTaflbM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I learnt bills of exchange from Adam Thomas and yes they do work

so BoE is the same as accepted for value.... AforV??? IF different in principle in some way, please explain how?? its your birthright? Ironic that ........ On the eve of the "why robert mernard is lying through omission" everybody jumps at what feels right? Scott Duncan - They are a SERVICE. The GOVERNMENT is NOT a person, and only a person can pay. YOU have surety, no matter what delusions you pull out of your ass."

the reason Robert Menard is a sack of s*** is because he does not tell us what this legal tender mean he does understand bills of exchange and accept for value discharge debt

so BoE is different because RM is a sack of shit, this is scotts page, not the buck-o-five page or the AforV page but you smear your shitstains on these walls like a republican prisoner. Lets have a think about your birthright/their promise. They promised to cut you in on the spoils of war/rape/subjugation. You dont give a shit, you just want your cut. You know the rest of the world is tiring NOT just of american foreign policy but its peoples attitudes about their self entitlements?

Getting away from surety and being responsible for one's self is the aim here...

Yes this is why we lean the legal title name and place in a trust in our corporation that were the major shareholders of and then we create a whole new legal identity which we control 100 percent legal title and equity title thereof and surety cannot be attached then to the human from that new legal entity

*lien

But Eamonn O Brien, who administrate this person we have ?, when it's CLEAR in my mind that I AM NOT the person, I HAVE a person, to be fully responsible, I have to decide to either ADMINISTRATE it, or redeem it ?....no ???

It's very simple in my head, (whether that's a good thing or not is yet to be seen), I control the person. If someone makes a claim against me/it I want to see the contract or fuck off...

control 1) n. the power to direct, manage, oversee and/or restrict the affairs, business or assets of a person or entity. 2) v. to exercise the power of control.

As I said I control it, I do not own it...

Control = Administrate

Who is going to step up and say you do not own that legal title name who please tell me?

We are not liening the birth certificate we are leaning the legal title name that's on it

The birth certificate is a surety bond but the name on it in all caps is a legal entity Person

If the government was the claim it was theirs then they are all the trustee and all the surety and it is not attached to the man

The government cannot claim it and then say it is ours you can't be a little bit pregnant our little bit dead you either are or you're not

The government can't say thats your name but you dont own it

Bumping these to the top for the newbies.

I am SO glad Adam Thomas and Derek Moran are banned. This thread was a painful read.

NOTE TO NEWBIES: Read the bumped posts A FEW times, not just once.

Yes.

Noted!

Question for Pete Daoust ..... "Sell your land to your CORPORATION, and lien your PERSON with this same CORPORATION, and make you PERSON liening this same CORPORATION for the $$ it owes your NAME for the sale of the LAND.... have fun....IN TRUST...." Would this transaction between your PERSON that you have and your CORPORATION that you own have to be recorded in some way, like land registry or title issues etc? If there was a pre-existing mortgage on that land, could this still be done or would it have to be discharged first?

yes yes no

Tommy Atherton

Pete, was that a no it couldn't be done, or a no to having it discharged first. If you could clarify that part a bit, I would appreciate it... And thank-you. :)

hahaha...but if Pete answered YES to the last, you would have the same question. seems like the question was flawed! The Answer to Everything. :-D

BUMP

That was an EARLY THREAD! :D

Reading these old thread makes me think that you have lots of patience :D

A huge load of it ... :D

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

I just fight very hard to not delete most of my comments :(

For Robbie and the Peanut-Butter Gang.

Is this the first thread?

one of them!

How many of you are embarrased reading this? :D

B|

So, Pete is embarrassed.

...who else? :D

ahem... check

I'm not embarrassed. I understood the concepts and read more than commented... I didn't realise cryptos were being discussed as early as that. I think I was more focussed on dodging surety and "sticking it to the man"...

"Scott Duncan How many of you are embarrased reading this?"

Embarrassed: 1. To cause to feel self-conscious or ill at ease; disconcert 2. To hinder with obstacles or difficulties; impede 3. Archaic - To involve in or hamper with financial difficulties

Yes.

HOLY FUCKING ZOMBIE-THREAD I hate Derek Moran!

I tried SO hard to get you brainless prats to ask the right questions with this post, way back then :(

Derek is still jerking off on magic parchments.

I'm sure he's sitting on it, sipping a tall glass of Kook-of-Gaia's piss, and pondering it.

Yeah... that's an image that will stick with you.

...fucking zombie thread.

Wright is NOT Satoshi, and GAVIN IS LYING (WHY DUDE?)

https://github.com/roguesupport/wrightverification

Andreas Antonopoulos stays classy through the whole thing, and reminds everyone of the FACTS.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4hj1xu/why_i_declined_to_verify_sns_identity_two_weeks/

Joelle Spirit has been paying attention!

Am I the only one who's noticed that most of the people commenting on this thread, in 2013, are assholes who lie about me now?

This was one of the group's FIRST posts. It's one of the MOST embarrassing to those who lie about me today, so I encourage EVERYONE to read it.